then the mongols would recruite filipino soldiers and train them as horse archers and mangudai that would later conquer asia, europe, and africa

but that would be impossible... mongols aren't good in fighting in islands (see Majapahit Empire)
plus, monthly visit of typhoons would just destroy their large armadas

If Gengis Khan would train the mongols to ride dolphins instead of horses then I think its possible.

pero, mapapansin mong Hainan lang talaga ang sakop nilang isla.

kaya lang nila nasakop ang Hainan dahil sakop ito ng Song Dynasty at ng nagwakas ang Song sa Battle of Yamen, automatic na magiging bahagi ng Mongol Empire ang mga natitirang sakop ng Song.

- natalo sila ng mga Hapon dahil sa kamikaze.
- natalo sila ni Raden Wijaya (nagtayo ng Majapahit) dahil sa kataksilan nya at hindi magaling makipaglaban ang mga mongol sa gubat at sanay sila sa mga kapatagan
- natalo sila ng mga Vietnamese dahil sa scorched-earth policy
- natalo sila ng mga Mameluke dahil bumalik sa Mongolia ang mahigit sa kalahati ng hukbo ng mga Mongol

i'm sure that they will submit immediately to the mongols by the time they saw the mongol ships.

i'm sure they already heard mongols from the chinese traders before

the extent of mongolian occupation


it included hainan island as well.

Then,how will the present day what philippines will look like if mongols had conquered it before?

ganun pa rin. wala naman nagbabago... tignan mo, sinakop nila ang middle east pero walang nagbago kundi ang pagkasira ng Baghdad.

@Darkblade : correction, the last three Song emperors are all children....
the last Song emperor was drowned on the sea during the battle of Yamen.

other speculations that the last Song emperor escaped to the Philippines. but meh its not true

what if the philippines was conquered by mongols,what would you think would have happened.

what if the philippines was conquered by mongols,what would you think would have happened.

i'm sure that they will submit immediately to the mongols by the time they saw the mongol ships.

i'm sure they already heard mongols from the chinese traders before

i think they can because filipinos don't have government,how can it not be-they haven't tried,i am asking what will happen if they tried,there was no army in the philippines during that time only in cebu and sultanate of sulu

If Mongols invaded the Philippines, Lapu Lapu would kill Gengis Khan instead of Magellan. But I think it would not be possible for the Mongols to invade the Philippines. Filipinos were already good naval soldiers and seafarers during that time and they would attack the Mongol Armada while they are still at the ocean. Spaniards have mastered Naval Warfare and ruled the Pacific Ocean and Mongols and Chinese may have the biggest ships during that time they they could not withstand storms and naval war. I think the Mongols attempted to invade Japan twice but they failed.

There was a time when a Chinese Koxinga of the Ming Dynasty was planning to invade the Philippines with an Armada and 80,000 men and the Spaniards would defenitly lose the Battle unfortunately Koxinga died before the planned invasion.
There was a Muslim Kingdom in Luzon called Maynilad and the Spaniards were even surprised when they invaded Maynilad because they have advanced warfare weapons and tactics.

perhaps only luzon could have been conquered if they tried.

and what would they get? dried fish and clay pots?

Apache -

The first Athapascan peoples arrived in the Southwest about A.D. 850, nomadic hunters and gatherers from what is now western Canada.

They spread throughout the arid tablelands of the Southwest, forming numerous bands, where they came to be known jointly among the regional original inhabitants as the Apaches probably meaning "enemies."

Even after having established their new homelands, the Apaches continued to wander over a wide range, raiding sedentary peoples for food and slaves.

Fierce fighters and masters of survival in the wilderness, they were feared by other inhabitants of the Southwest - Pueblo Indians, Spanish, Mexicans, and Americans - until their ultimate conquest.

Their presence and harassment checked Spanish and Mexican expansion northward.

And, some years after the United States takeover of the Southwest in 1848, when they then had become enemies of the Anglo-American occupants, they proved themselves the most stubborn of the Indian guerrillas.

General George Crook, who campaigned against the Apaches as well as against many other Indians, singled them out as the "tigers of the human species."

lol, aztecs and mayans are no match for chinese army.
because :

- chinese army is incredibly the largest army in the whole world
- chinese army use advanced weapons including canons and arquebus used in 13th and 14th centuries
- they are adept in every terrain, from the sandy deserts to the high plateaus and to the lush and thick forests
- they can build large ships that can able to transport a large invading force
- chinese army can also recruit foreign mercenaries around the old world to conquer the aztecs and mayans

Then,how will the present day what philippines will look like if mongols had conquered it before?

If the Mongols conquered the Philippines, the national food will be Mongolian Barbecue and Mongolian Rice.

remember that there are other cultures in the Philippines, like the Maranao dances

If the Mongoloids conquer the Philippines, all Filipinos will look like Suzuka.

no way...Suzuka looks like he has Down Syndrome....

you are an insecured N*gga,i saw your pics already,no if the philippines was never conquered it would be a peaceful place and remained pagan,which i prefer and there are more atheists as well.

KID, ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT PAGANS ARE MORE SUPERSTITIOUS THAN ANY OTHER RELIGION

and your dream that Philippines will stay pagan if it was never conquered would also end by 16th Century, because Muslims are already spreading throughout the country.

Can't we for once have a thread like "What if the Philippines was conquered BY NO ONE"? !?!?!??!

Well it was the era. Just as a US carrier battlegroup can go just about anywhere in the world and overwelm the local defenses an age of sail ship of the line or steamship age cruiser could do the same.

However without nuclear power those ports and natural harbors would have been needed to keep those fleets afloat and somebody would have siezed them for coaling, watering etc. However maybe they would not care about the rest of the islands and felt no need to claim everything the admiral saw for the crown and king.

Without somebody claiming all land a weeks sail away we have a bunch of islands with people speaking different tongues. Does a nation form out of that?

The Philippines maybe will still be part of the East Indies (East India Archipelago) if no one conquered it and Filipinos will be called East Indians.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Indies

perhaps we will have a muyeol(king of silla)-like person who will unite the philippines(or perhaps only luzon),and perhaps those minorities will disappear like dust because of assimilation leaving the major ethnic groups the only ethnic groups.

if the austronesians(amis,et.al) never invaded the philippines it will be filled by negritos.

Why would they assimilate and disappear? They haven't even with colonial rule and later Philippines central government which came about as a legacy of Spain claiming all. They are on seperate islands. Exactly why would someone go risk his life just to kill the other without picking up a real resource worth the risk like a deep water port?

Pre Spanish Manila was ruled by Malay Muslims and Manila was a Muslim Kingdom.
http://article.melayuonline.com/?a=Rm1tL1U5bWh1MGY%3D=

Bornean Ancestors


Rajah Soliman the King of Manila had Ancestors from Brunei.

This is proof that the Philippines is Malay afterall not those rigged DNA phenotype testing results which is too mongoloid centric.