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Chan-Ho
Things both sides SHOULD NOT DO:

By the Korean side:

1. Don't look down on Chinese.
2. Don't act arrogant in China.
3. Be open to cultural exchange.
4. Don't make any nationalistic claims to current Chinese territory.
5. Don't jump on the "China threat" bandwagon and stop anti-China rhetoric.

By the Chinese side:

1. Don't distort and claim Korean history.
2. Respect the fact that Korean cultural elements share roots with Chinese cultural elements.
3. Stop spreading false rumors with the purpose of containing modern Korean cultural influence. (this includes accusations of plastic surgery and so-called Korean invention of Chinese culture)
4. Stop belittling Korean culture and history.
5. Stop using the plight of North Korea to further China's political agenda.

Things both sides SHOULD DO:

1. Find and respect common cultural and historical ground.
2. Cultural exchange and understanding.
3. Trade and economic co-operation.
4. Social and environmental co-operation.
5. Political co-operation and autonomy.

**Finally, both people should stop stereotyping each other as there is no greater logical fallacy then sweeping generalizations about an ethnicity.


Anything Else?
indacut
I can do this.
bboijoonshik
how did Hu Jing Tao's visit go ?

anybody know what were some of the issues that were discussed.
JohnnyReb
QUOTE(Chan-Ho @ Aug 27 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]3895568[/snapback]
Things both sides SHOULD NOT DO:

By the Korean side:

1. Don't look down on Chinese.
2. Don't act arrogant in China.
3. Be open to cultural exchange.
4. Don't make any nationalistic claims to current Chinese territory.
5. Don't jump on the "China threat" bandwagon and reduce anti-China rhetoric.

By the Chinese side:

1. Don't distort and claim Korean history.
2. Respect the fact that Korean cultural elements share roots with Chinese cultural elements.
3. Stop spreading false rumors with the purpose of containing Korean cultural influence. (this includes accusations of plastic surgery)
4. Stop belittling Korean culture and history.
5. Stop using the plight of North Korea to further China's political agenda.

Things both sides SHOULD DO:

1. Find and respect common cultural and historical ground.
2. Cultural exchange and understanding.
3. Trade and economic co-operation.
4. Social and environmental co-operation.
5. Political co-operation and autonomy.

Finally, both people should stop generalizing each other as there is no greater logical fallacy then sweeping generalizations about an ethnicity.


Anything Else?


I totally agree with this! beerchug.gif

I think too many Chinese people have a problem with respecting Korea's culture and independence. Yes, both our peoples share similar cultural elements such as Confucianism, but Chinese people need to stop acting as if we invented everything Korean. Really, is it so hard to acknowledge Korean culture and heritage? China really needs to shed the whole "big brother" attitude.

As for the Korean side, I really wished there would be less of the China-bashing. Jumping on the "China-threat", "Free-Tibet" bandwagon isn't good for either side. Also, it would be helpful if Koreans didn't perpetuate stereotypes created by the white man to look down on China, for example - Chinese people eat strange foods, Chinese men are wimpy, Chinese people have a herd mentality, etc. All of which are stereotypes created by whites that can be easily applied to ANY East Asian.
Mid-Night_Sun
lol i JUST saw a topic where OP talked about korean companies in a thread about chinese companies and white members on the board of directors. now i see this. thats funny.

add this to the list. dont bring in the other group for no reason in a topic that doesnt have anything to do with them.
Chan-Ho
QUOTE(Mid-Night_Sun @ Aug 27 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]3895609[/snapback]
lol i JUST saw a topic where OP talked about korean companies in a thread about chinese companies and white members on the board of directors. now i see this. thats funny.

add this to the list. dont bring in the other group for no reason in a topic that doesnt have anything to do with them.


There is nothing offensive to what I said in that topic. Cry me a river.

On the other hand, I don't see how you're contributing to the topic at hand.
Chan-Ho
del.
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE(Chan-Ho @ Aug 27 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]3895623[/snapback]
There is nothing offensive to what I said in that topic. Cry me a river.

On the other hand, I don't see how you're contributing to the topic at hand.


it has nothing to do with koreans. your topic is a joke LOL.

heres my contribution fool.

"add this to the list. dont bring in the other group for no reason in a topic that doesnt have anything to do with them."
DaeJang
Chan Ho you are anti-China. You making this topic? idea.gif
indacut
Lets get back to the OT.
Chan-Ho
QUOTE(indacut @ Aug 27 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]3895661[/snapback]
Lets get back to the OT.


Good idea. biggthumpup.gif
kunomchu
QUOTE(Chan-Ho @ Aug 27 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]3895623[/snapback]
There is nothing offensive to what I said in that topic. Cry me a river.

On the other hand, I don't see how you're contributing to the topic at hand.


don't act stupid. we can see though you
Chan-Ho
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 27 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]3895695[/snapback]
don't act stupid. we can see though you


And when have you EVER contributed something useful in your 16 million posts?

You must be a very bored and hopeless individual.
laughingatjjanke
they act like peasants tho

acting like a peasant and being poor are two different things.
Takashi
Another addition, if someone tries to draw you into an argument, don't respond to it. Act like an adult and move on.

The way Chan-ho and Kuno just behaved is part of the problem.
kunomchu
QUOTE(Takashi @ Aug 27 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]3895727[/snapback]
Another addition, if someone tries to draw you into an argument, don't respond to it. Act like an adult and move on.

The way Chan-ho and Kuno just behaved is part of the problem.


unlike him, i don't hide. I'm honest about my opinions. I don't pretend to be anything. Chan-ho on the other hand..

This whole peace between korean and chinese is just a charade.

Also, its an online internet forum. Im just an anonymous user. I can say whatever without repercussion unless I break the board's rules.
Takashi
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 27 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]3895738[/snapback]
unlike him, i don't hide. I'm honest about my opinions. I don't pretend to be anything. Chan-ho on the other hand..

This whole peace between korean and chinese is just a charade.

Also, its an online internet forum. Im just an anonymous user. I can say whatever without repercussion unless I break the board's rules.

Meh, if he makes this topic and says he wants things to change then the least you can do is give it a chance. If you find that tomorrow or the day after he trolls in Cchat then post a quote of it here and you can ask him about it/call him on it, don't start more $hit in Kchat before the thing has even been given a chance.

You could be perceived to be trolling which is breaking the rules. Don't just enter topics like this, make a $hitty comment and think it's perfectly fine and that you're behaving in accordance with the rules.

Also "- Be respectful. No flaming, no inflammatory posts just to get people riled up. Don't expect everyone to assume that you're joking when making potentially offensive remarks."
Clearly not everyone abides by this but there's certainly no need to start $hit in this topic at this time.
kunomchu
QUOTE(Takashi @ Aug 27 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]3895753[/snapback]
Meh, if he makes this topic and says he wants things to change then the least you can do is give it a chance. If you find that tomorrow or the day after he trolls in Cchat then post a quote of it here and you can ask him about it/call him on it, don't start more $hit in Kchat before the thing has even been given a chance.

You could be perceived to be trolling which is breaking the rules. Don't just enter topics like this, make a $hitty comment and think it's perfectly fine and that you're behaving in accordance with the rules.


lol if you become mod of k-chat, i guess i wont be coming into k-chat.

I'm brash, sue me.
Takashi
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 27 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]3895761[/snapback]
lol if you become mod of k-chat, i guess i wont be coming into k-chat.

I'm brash, sue me.

Don't see why not.

So am I, I'm not unnecessarily a d!ck though.
Pentasori
QUOTE(Chan-Ho @ Aug 27 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]3895568[/snapback]

Anything Else?


make love. a little humping goes a long way. not diplomatically, of course.
baal
QUOTE(Takashi @ Aug 27 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]3895764[/snapback]
.... I'm not unnecessarily a d!ck though.


There are different schools of thought on the subject. laugh.gif
yhellothar
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How Korean and Chinese can get along


by not listening to white people pretending to be koreans

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This whole peace between korean and chinese is just a charade.


a 1,300 year charade?
BlizzardWhiskey
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 27 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]3895738[/snapback]
unlike him, i don't hide. I'm honest about my opinions. I don't pretend to be anything. Chan-ho on the other hand..

This whole peace between korean and chinese is just a charade.

Also, its an online internet forum. Im just an anonymous user. I can say whatever without repercussion unless I break the board's rules.


Well if you really are honest then its pretty fu-ked up you would make fun of the North Koreans starving about the endless demand for anti hunger noodles there.

Arrogant Dirty chinese
halfnakedchef
QUOTE(Pentasori @ Aug 27 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]3895918[/snapback]
make love. a little humping goes a long way. not diplomatically, of course.


But? I have.

I been getting with alot of Chinese Girls these days. Trying to spread the Korean Love. The Chinese Girls seem to be fine with me.

But? Why? Chinese Guys angry at me?

They even tried to mess with my Ride until we all ran after them. "Damn!! those Punks sure can Run!!!" and it's not like I'm all that slow as I use to be a running back when I use to play football. I couldn't catch them for the life of me. laugh.gif

I swear those dudes should of been on the Chinese Track and Field Olympic team. They would of scored some more Golds.

But? Anyways? Can't we just all get along. beerchug.gif
orange peel
the whole chinese - korean thing is just applicable to internet forums i think
people in general are to socially dependant to voice racist ignorance in person in public.

that and i'v enever had any problems with the koreans in canada; we just never talk about politics is all.

what can help in the forum is less political threads and more topics we all can enjoy.. like popular music, hot celebs, good food.. like that.
SoonDooBoo77
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 27 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]3895738[/snapback]
unlike him, i don't hide. I'm honest about my opinions. I don't pretend to be anything. Chan-ho on the other hand..

This whole peace between korean and chinese is just a charade.

Also, its an online internet forum. Im just an anonymous user. I can say whatever without repercussion unless I break the board's rules.


Dude, Chan-Ho is just trying to be nice and promote more inter-Asian unity. Unlike you, you hate on Koreans and Japaense and Vietnamese, right?

So what? you gonna suck up to white and black people? They don't even care who's "Chinese", or "Korean" or "Japanese" or "Vietnamese." We are the same small-eyed, slope-headed, buck-toothed people to them.

So knock it off with your anti-Korean rants. You live in Canada, and are a spoiled Asian-Canadian. Come here to the US, and see how you're treated!
kunomchu
QUOTE(SoonDooBoo77 @ Aug 27 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]3896323[/snapback]
Dude, Chan-Ho is just trying to be nice and promote more inter-Asian unity. Unlike you, you hate on Koreans and Japaense and Vietnamese, right?

So what? you gonna suck up to white and black people? They don't even care who's "Chinese", or "Korean" or "Japanese" or "Vietnamese." We are the same small-eyed, slope-headed, buck-toothed people to them.

So knock it off with your anti-Korean rants. You live in Canada, and are a spoiled Asian-Canadian. Come here to the US, and see how you're treated!


I don't hate japanese and vietnamese. I dislike koreans. Get that straight lol

Also, I'm not Canadian. I'm a proud American. dumbass

QUOTE(BlizzardWhiskey @ Aug 27 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]3896264[/snapback]
Well if you really are honest then its pretty fu-ked up you would make fun of the North Koreans starving about the endless demand for anti hunger noodles there.

Arrogant Dirty chinese


How was I making fun of north koreans? I was making fun of the north korean government. Gullible
molmol
ORIGINALLY KOREAN AND CHINESE CAN`T get along EACH OTHER.
SoonDooBoo77
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 27 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]3896482[/snapback]
I don't hate japanese and vietnamese. I dislike koreans. Get that straight lol


You hate on Koreans because your exKorea girlfriend dumped your gay fugly @$$ because you're too stupid, OR you got your @$$ handed to you by a smaller Korean kid.

No need to hate, okay?

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Also, I'm not Canadian. I'm a proud American. dumbass


Yeah, I know you're a dumbass. America eh? You self-hating Asian hating on other Asians, but you kiss up to whites, who don't even respect your slopehead, and can't even tell you apart from a chinese, a Korean, Vietnamese. You stupid pile of turkey $hit.

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How was I making fun of north koreans? I was making fun of the north korean government. Gullible


Go sleep with midget KJI. He's waiting for you!!
kunomchu
QUOTE(SoonDooBoo77 @ Aug 28 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]3896496[/snapback]
You hate on Koreans because your exKorea girlfriend dumped your gay fugly @$$ because you're too stupid, OR you got your @$$ handed to you by a smaller Korean kid.

No need to hate, okay?

If I don't like koreans, why would i have a korean girlfriend? But I have to admit, I never had good experiences with Koreans.

QUOTE(SoonDooBoo77 @ Aug 28 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]3896496[/snapback]
Yeah, I know you're a dumbass. America eh? You self-hating Asian hating on other Asians, but you kiss up to whites, who don't even respect your slopehead, and can't even tell you apart from a chinese, a Korean, Vietnamese. You stupid pile of turkey $hit.

Actually asians can tell other asians apart. Doesn't take much. Koreans have high cheek bones.

QUOTE(SoonDooBoo77 @ Aug 28 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]3896496[/snapback]
Go sleep with midget KJI. He's waiting for you!!


I'm not gay and i'm not homophobic. biggthumpup.gif
SoonDooBoo77
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 28 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]3896508[/snapback]
If I don't like koreans, why would i have a korean girlfriend? But I have to admit, I never had good experiences with Koreans.


Yeah, cuz of hypothesis #2. That you got your @$$ handed to you by a Korean. You never had good experience with Koreans because you probably acted like a jerk. Stupid. No need to label and hate on ALL Koreans because of a few spoiled kimchee brats that you've met in life!! thumbsdown.gif

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Actually asians can tell other asians apart. Doesn't take much. Koreans have high cheek bones.


Again, you're assuming things. Assuming that all Asians can tell each different asian ethnic groups apart. And that doesn't apply to all cases. I have met some Korean people who look more Chinese with their big adam's apple in their neck, while I've met Japanese people with high cheek bones while visiting Japan, and I thought they were Zainichi Koreans, but they were Japanese.

And I wasn't talking about Asian telling each other apart lolo head. I was talking about white and black and other non-Asians who can't tell you apart from a Korean, Japanese, okay you get it? So keep hating on Koreans, while you kiss up to black and white people who don't even respect a slopehead like you.


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I'm not gay and i'm not homophobic. biggthumpup.gif


KJI is still waiting for you!!
indacut
I cant count the amount of Chinese, Taiwanese, Hmongs, and Vietnamese that are constantly mistaken by non Koreans as Koreans.
yhellothar
most of the Chinese in America are from the Southern extremes of China. Most intelligent people can tell the difference between North Chinese and Koreans, but to idiots they look similar.
InitialDJay
QUOTE(Chan-Ho @ Aug 27 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]3895568[/snapback]
Things both sides SHOULD DO:

1. Find and respect common cultural and historical ground.
2. Cultural exchange and understanding.
3. Trade and economic co-operation.
4. Social and environmental co-operation.
5. Political co-operation and autonomy.

Finally, both people should stop stereotyping each other as there is no greater logical fallacy then sweeping generalizations about an ethnicity.


Anything Else?

1. not easy to do
2. has nothing in similar
3. already do
4. already do
5. not going to happen

the korean vs chinese actually starts by a few korean professor who make up this so called "theory".

if you go to 123.com, you find the commend by mainlanders even worse.

i said this many many times but i'm going to repeat myself.

we don't need to like each other, but lets just respect each other.

in other words, korean stays the heck out of china business while chinese should stays the hell out of korean business.
Blizz
Dont you just....like....love how this thread progressed?


jajibbalgoshipeo
QUOTE(yhellothar @ Aug 28 2008, 12:50 AM) [snapback]3896717[/snapback]
most of the Chinese in America are from the Southern extremes of China. Most intelligent people can tell the difference between North Chinese and Koreans, but to idiots they look similar.



Koreans look almost exactly like Northern and middle Chinese. I can't tell them apart.
jajibbalgoshipeo
QUOTE(SoonDooBoo77 @ Aug 27 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]3896521[/snapback]
Yeah, cuz of hypothesis #2. That you got your @$$ handed to you by a Korean. You never had good experience with Koreans because you probably acted like a jerk. Stupid. No need to label and hate on ALL Koreans because of a few spoiled kimchee brats that you've met in life!! thumbsdown.gif
Again, you're assuming things. Assuming that all Asians can tell each different asian ethnic groups apart. And that doesn't apply to all cases. I have met some Korean people who look more Chinese with their big adam's apple in their neck, while I've met Japanese people with high cheek bones while visiting Japan, and I thought they were Zainichi Koreans, but they were Japanese.

And I wasn't talking about Asian telling each other apart lolo head. I was talking about white and black and other non-Asians who can't tell you apart from a Korean, Japanese, okay you get it? So keep hating on Koreans, while you kiss up to black and white people who don't even respect a slopehead like you.
KJI is still waiting for you!!



I can definitely tell Vietnamese or Cantonese speaking Chinese from Northern Chinese. Also, I can definitely tell Japanese from Korean or Chinese. However, Koreans and mandarin Chinese look almost identical. It's hard to tell them apart.
Mid-Night_Sun
I!!! cant tell at all. im always wrong, so i just ask now. for example, this other canto guy at uni i met. we BOTH thought the other was viet. pretty odd how the convo played out lol. its a good thing there were no white people watching. oops, thats a lie. it was a class full of white people. for those asians that say asians can tell the difference, im sorry. we failed and now they know not all can. WHOOOPS.
lluk
Chinese and North Koreans get along.
Darkblade
Err .. this thread is getting out of control, here I give you example of northern chinese looks: Chinese soccer player from shandong luneng, soccer player aint recruited based on southern and northern looks:

崔鹏 - Cui Peng


韩鹏 - Han Peng


周海滨 - Zhou Haibin


高尧 - Gao Yao


吴昊 - Wu Hao


李雷雷 - Li Leilei


Similar but different to our southern brothers and korean.
crabdonut
QUOTE(InitialDJay @ Aug 28 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]3896727[/snapback]
i said this many many times but i'm going to repeat myself.

we don't need to like each other, but lets just respect each other.

in other words, korean stays the heck out of china business while chinese should stays the hell out of korean business.


I definitely agree. China is a neutral country anyway. China doesn't like or dislike any country and shouldn't do so.
nicole123

kunomchu:

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I don't like koreans



If that's the case, what the hell are you doing in K-chat? To show your hatred?
Blizz
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 27 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]3896482[/snapback]
I don't hate japanese and vietnamese. I dislike koreans. Get that straight lol

Also, I'm not Canadian. I'm a proud American. dumbass
How was I making fun of north koreans? I was making fun of the north korean government. Gullible


No you werent. You cant make poke fun of the starving and say it was meant for the government, the government eat well. Its the people who starve.

An why you dislike Koreans? Is it the arrogance? Well we piss each other off too all the time so dont worry about it. Dont take it personal.
Pessoptimistic
Without Kunomchu, Hafiz and ouou, it is very possible that the Koreans and Chinese in this forum could get along.
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE(Darkblade @ Aug 28 2008, 03:22 AM) [snapback]3896812[/snapback]
Err .. this thread is getting out of control, here I give you example of northern chinese looks: Chinese soccer player from shandong luneng, soccer player aint recruited based on southern and northern looks:

崔鹏 - Cui Peng


韩鹏 - Han Peng


周海滨 - Zhou Haibin


高尧 - Gao Yao


吴昊 - Wu Hao


李雷雷 - Li Leilei


Similar but different to our southern brothers and korean.


LOL why did you post the soccer team....they are a bunch of spoiled arrogant brats who spent more time playing with girls than soccer. and it showed. boy did it show...
JohnnyReb
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 27 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]3895738[/snapback]
unlike him, i don't hide. I'm honest about my opinions. I don't pretend to be anything. Chan-ho on the other hand..

This whole peace between korean and chinese is just a charade.

Also, its an online internet forum. Im just an anonymous user. I can say whatever without repercussion unless I break the board's rules.


What the hell is your problem, man? If you hate Koreans so much, why do you come to the Korean chat? Doesn't that just make you a grade-A jerk? What do you add to the discussion except for stupid stereotypes? Your comments are neither entertaining nor insightful, and you'd think that with 17 thousand posts, you'd learn to post something interesting, but you do neither.

Your smug, self-assured attitude is only surpassed by your apparent love for white America. You're proud to be American? WTF? You're proud that your parents immigrated and you just happen to be living in this country? That's pathetic. You act as if you fought in the revolutionary war or something. Give me a break, you didn't even make the decision to move here yourself, your parents did that for you. What is there to be proud of? Being proud of living in a country that hates your ethnicity, hates your ancestral country, that does everything it can to marginalize you, humiliates you, and deprive you of human dignity is fu-king lame. YOU are lame. You might as well say "I am proud to be a marginalized, second class citizen".

Aside from a few unpleasant incidents, Chinese and Koreans have gotten along just fine in the last 1300 years or so. It's not a "charade".

Your attitude is typical of the "Ugly Chinese". You act arrogant to those that you perceive are weak (Koreans), but you pander to those that you percive are strong (white America). Goddamn, I am so sick of pig-headed, arrogant Chinese like you who talk $hit about other Asians but will gladly proclaim their love for white America. Pathetic.
Mua
^
LOL kunomchu got owned.
nicole123
It's always been said again and again, it's the few bad apples that spoils the entire barrel.


ouou
China is getting alone with Chosunin very well. Hangokin....no thanks...embarassedlaugh.gif
proudgoguryeo
QUOTE(ouou @ Aug 28 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]3897466[/snapback]
China is getting alone with Chosunin very well. Hangokin....no thanks...embarassedlaugh.gif



China? their history belongs to us.

We have ancient proofs.

laugh.gif laugh.gif
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