This would be bad news for Chinese and Koreans. Not only is he a Yasukuni worshipper like the previous Koizumi, but he has a track record of making racist and outlandish comments towards Chinese and Korean people. I only see trouble if he is the new PM of Japan.

Aso (@$$hole?) Taro is an interesting case of Japan dynamics. His parents were the owners of a company that profited fantastically, on the backs of forced and or exploited cheap Korean laborers who toiled in dangerous conditions, starved and beaten. Thousands died under those conditions and many didn't even get paid. A number of former Korean laborers sued his company in Japan for unpaid back wages, and predictably lost.

Instead of being freaking embarrassed and ashamed of his background, he's proud of it and he constantly praises and defends Japan's war time actions as patriotic.

ah no wonder the right in japan has been sneakily pushing for claiming dokto.

looks like they got their wish

Japan will lose its reputation as a pacifist country.

Agreed. Aso totally loves to glorify Japan's past agressions while pandering to America. Typical Japanese Nationalist. It wouldn't bother me as much if Japanese Nationalist weren't so quick to bow down to America.

He is very hawkish and have said about wanting to visit the Yasukuni Shrine.

I pray that taro @$$hole doesn't become the next PM of Japan.

He will basically make more false claims to Dokdo and is also crazy enough to send the Japanese naval force to fight S Korean naval forces for Dokdo.

This may then escalate into a mini-region war. Similar to the Georgia VS Russia conflict over Osettia and Abkhazia.

Basically a new World War III looming ahead if this nutcase runs Japan. But I could care less as Japan's economy is slowly faltering everyday. China will suceed over japan in the near future.

THis is the one thing that i actually hate japanes people for. I just dont get how a group of nationalist can quickly go from measuring their pride of past aggresion to bowing down to a former enermy so damn quickly. Even the chinese at this modern time are passively competeing with the US in everything.

probably send all the Zainichis and Chinese living in Japan, back to their origins. This is what the right wing of Japan have always wanted...fu-king...

And you know N.Korea would want a piece of the action. Kim Sung, built his whole reputation fighting them. What a great way to fix relations.. possibly reunification.


Samsung Play Station 4 FTW!!!

You really are living in a dream world.


The young South Koreans are in for a hell of a wake up call when reunification occurs. And I shouldn;t even be using the term reunification, because there will be nothing peaceful about it.

I actually feel really sorry for you in that you are delusional.

And it makes me sad too.

I wasn't predicting the future. Its obviously a far fetched fantasy. But the point I was trying to make. Is that if Japan tried to take Dodko with naval force. S.Korea alone wouldn't just retake the island. S.Korea would destroy Japan.

Look at the stupid $hit I found while searching for Taro Aso on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZGqsz8xhI

ROFLMAO. Worst song ever.

I hope Taro Aso will push for the normalization of Japan and defend the country's sovereignty on issues such as Takeshima.

I wouldn't be surprised if this Aso would go war with North Korea and indirectly drag China and South Korea to get involved. He once said that the Korean occupation of 50 years benefitted Koreans. His father's company had employed Korean slave labor during the war. It's obvious he ain't no friend of the Chinese and Koreans.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=RoDD7gbEPlg&...feature=related

Bull$hit. This will never happen. taro @$$hole will only push japan back to its old times, and while China and Korea are developing, Japan will have no friends in the Asian region. LOL! Dream on.

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On another note, I won't be surprised if taro @$$hole becomes the next japanese PM. He will be more aggressive in trying to steal Dokdo. That's what concerns me.

He may also start a war with N Korea and get the US military and S Korea involved.

But looking at the bright side, this idiot may unify the two Koreas. Only if the japanese military is successful in killing KJI during that hypothetical war.

lol. I don't think Taro Aso wants North Korea's missles to land in Tokyo does he? and I thought soverignty meant that Dokdo would be under Japan's control? lol.

On another note, an aggresive Japan would be a perfect catalyst to re-unification on the Korean pennisula... keep talking.

Its funny how Koreans love to talk for other countries, as if South Korea's own voice is too insignificant. Its not like South Korea will ever be in a position to rival Japan militarily or diplomatically.

And also, I really do hope the North Koreans unify with the South. Maybe then some of you will wake up to the reality of absorbing an economically crippled country of over 20 million. Good luck, because you'll need it.

Who was talking for other countries? It's just that taro @$$hole, your fudge packing friend, is a complete nutcase. Nobody in the East Asian region likes that loser. Only you and your japanazi right-wing politicians.



Ah, you just jealous that Korea is catching up. Plus japan is falling day by day, as China's economy will trump Japan. It will be so funny to see taro @$$hole begging China to open her doors to japan once japan realizes that they're headed in a backward direction. LOL!!!



Sure, wow, I didn't know you had brain cells.



LOL. So funny to hear this hawaiian talk smack about Korea's economy, when you hawaiians are dying to sit on your king's throne illegally. You hawaiians don't even have a country. Plain owned by the USA. LOL!!

Like what youre doing right now or what you did many many times in the past? Hypocrisy much? And mind telling me why you continue to lurk K-chat? Do you have an obsession with us?



At least South Korea has a voice. Japans voice is beyond insignificant. It doesnt even have one. The US basically tells the Japanese what to do and what not to do. In bitterness, Japanese politicians need to bring up Dokdo or that warshrine just to stay relevant with asian politics. Its the same old attention seeking whoredom that sums up Japanese foreign politics.



Ever? South Korea is already militarily more powerful then Japan is. North Korea too is more powerful than Japan is. With unification in the future, their will be no contest. Let me also remind you that for most of history, Koreas military was far stronger than Japans. It was only when the Japanese like the cowards they are began employing western weaponry(rifles, cannons etc) and using them on peaceful asian countries who did not have such weapons or reason to fight that Japan became "strong". Although strong is not the ideal word to use when describing Japan. A better word would be cowardly. It doesnt take much bravery to shoot a poor farmer with a rifle 500m away. So much for that stupid hollywood bull$hit of samurai honor.

Diplomatically Japan is insignificant. What exactly has Japan done with their "diplomacy". The only thing Japan seem to be good at is stirring the ire of its neighbors and taking it in the @$$ whenever the US feels like reminding Japan whos the boss.

Oh gee Japanese diplomacy sure is powerful. Care to explain why the US recognizes South Koreas soverignty over Dokdo? Is that why Japan is an American lapdog? Is that also the reason why the whole world sides with Korea on warcrimes issues, comfort women and other shameful remnants of Japanese past? Funny thing is, North Korea commands hundreds of times more diplomatic power and relevancy then Japan does.



Not only have you demonstrated your absolute cluelessness on the Dokdo issue but also on the unification issue. I suggest you go read up on the South Korean governments official plans for unification. It wont happen right away like in Germany. Plans for eventual reunification were set many many years ago. A federation system would be set up with a friendly and capitalistic North Korean government to replace the Kim dynasty. Once North Koreas GDP per capita reaches 80% of South Koreas, reunification would occur.

EAD,

I'm not looking to get into it with you, but the portion of your post quoted above should be explained. Would you please do so?

North Korea can\'t even feed their own people without outside aid. How is this more powerful than Japan? How is this more powerful than even New Guinea? Power is more than how many men with guns you have.

That is true. But what if you tell a bunch of men with guns that theres food in that island.

Whoa!! you go my man EAD!!!

chinilpa just got POWNED!!!

Then I hope they are good swimmers, because last I heard, N Korea doesn\'t have much of a navy.

LONG POST

Japan by constitution is not allowed to have an army. It has a defense force instead. South Korea does not need to abide by such restrictive laws which allows the countries military to grow however it sees fit. South Koreas armed forces number nearly 700,000. Its reserve forces number 4,500,000. Japans armed forces number barely over 200,000 and its reserve forces number under 60,000(I didnt type that wrong, its under sixty thousand). By shear numbers, South Korea is far superior. Training quality wise, South Korea is far ahead of Japan as well. The average South Korean male has 2 years of military service under one of the strictest and cruelest training regimes in the world. Military service is mandatory in South Korea while in Japan its not. The Japanese military on the other hand is for highschool dropouts who want to earn a salary after failing miserably in life(South Korea pays next to nothing for its draftees). Japan might spend more then South Korea on its army, but if you take into account the large amount of money the Japanese army pays its salary man recruits, Japans higher costs as well as the comforts, advertisements, recruiting stations and more it needs in order to satisfy and bring in new recruits(and to keep its recruits). Military expenditure between the two countries isnt really that different. Furthermore, unlike South Korea who prefers to spend money on trusted, tested, tried and true US military equipment, Japan prefers to buy US tech and then develop a Japanese equivalent that is usually much more expensive, inferior and pointless. They spendt billions on pointless research projects that usually end in failure. The JASDF spent god knows how much money on research for the F-2 program. The F-2 was originally designed to be a Japanese knock off of the F-16 with slight modification. The end result was a plane that was actually inferior to the original F-16 they intended to surpass. It was bulky, slow, its equipment was shoddy, turning was crap, bug after bug in its equipment and computers as well as delay after delay. The F-2 despite being similar and inferior to the F-16 costed 4 times as much as the F-16. A single F-16 would have mopped the floor with a F-2. 4 F-16s against one F-2 would have been over kill. South Korea on the other hand simply chose to upgrade and add more advanced features and modifications to their F-16s which resulted in far superior planes with less bugs to the F-2. The point im trying to make is that 1 dollar in South Koreas military goes a lot farther than in Japan. The modifications added to the F-15J is also another example of shoddy Japanese add ons and waste.

Tech wise South Korea is far far far far superior to Japan in ground engagements. Not only is the ROK army far superior in numbers but also in technology, tanks, artillery etc. A ground engagement with South Korea would be suicidal for the Japanese. Mind you that due to Japans defense status, it really has no way of invading South Korea or any other country.

Air wise South Korea deploys a wide array of fighters including the F-15K which is far superior to anything Japan has. South Korea has 39 F-15ks with another 21 arriving soon. Japans counter measure for the F-15K is the much inferior and much older F-15J which began its maiden flight in 1981 I believe. South Koreas F-15K on the other hand is relatively new with very recent technology(2005). The additional 21 F-15Ks arriving soon will be even more advanced with newer features(better engines for example). Combat wise the individual F-15K would easily destroy an enemy F-15J(not to mention that the ROK airforce is better and longer trained)Japan has around 140 F-15Js which is superior in numbers to South Koreas F-15Ks, HOWEVER the Japanese airforce would be stupid and suicidal to send all of them at once against South Koreas airforce. Combat wise the Japanese airforce has no counter measures against South Koreas F-15Ks. But thats not all. South Korea also has about 180 F-16s which are smaller, more agile, better at dog fights and close range combat compared to the F-15. Japan on the other hand has only 33 combat read F-2s to challenge South Koreas 180 F-16s. Remember what I said about the F-2 being inferior to the standard F-16? Well, the F-16 employed by the ROK airforce is a modified and superior version to the original. The F-15K and F-16 together syngergizes with each other to create a formidable fighting force. F-15ks would destroy Japans F-15Js at long range to long-mid range. And if Japans F-15Js get close enough, Korean F-16s will come screaming in towards them and destroy them at mid and close range with ease. Japan has no counter measure for South Koreas F-15ks much like how they have no counter measure for the numerically superior F-16s(Japans F-2s suck). That said, Japanese planes are also designed for self defense rather than offensive wars. They wouldnt do so well in an invasion attempt. Japanese planes cannot really invade South Korea. And even if they could, they would lose horribly to South Koreas SAMs, defensive positions and airforce. Being on the defense is also another huge advantage.

Navy wise, Japan beats South Korea in total power. HOWEVER, the Japanese navy really has no way of invading Korea , Dokdo or beating the ROK navy in combat. If a naval war were to occur, the ROK navy would wisely opt to go on the defensive. The Japanese navy despite being more numerous and superior in tonnage would still be distraught to fight South Korean ships in mine infested waters while being aided by the ROK airforce. Japanese ships despite their weight will still sink like stones if they hit a mine. And thats exactly what the ROK navy will do. Mine an area in order to prevent the Japanese navy from attacking. Then pick/harass their navy off with fast ships, subs and the airforce. If the JSDN decides to attack anyways, a large portion of their ships will be destroyed by mines while South Korean ships can fire and retreat at the same time. I'd also like to mention that South Koreas Sejong class Aegis destroyers are more advanced then any Japanese ships in their navy right now.



It cant feed its own people but it can feed its army. Thats why Kim is in power. He diverts all food aid to the military. Appeasing the military is what keeps him in power and prevents coups.

Funny thing is, North Korea has the largest commando force in the entire world. Over 100,000 commandos each with over 15 years of military training and are also well fed(because they are the elites). Most Japanese "recruits" are spoiled societal failures who only joined the military because they failed to get into college and cannot get a job. Most have only a few weeks or months of training at best and are very unmotivated. Japanese recruits are usually incompetent and cowardly. 100,000 commandos is no laughing matter. Japans total forces barely number over 200,000(most of the 200,000 are low quality garbage. Nevermind the fact that those 200,000 are split between its navy, airforce, logistics, artillery, tank and drivers whom cannot help Japan in ground engagements against stealthy commandos.

North Korean commandos specialize in stealth, reconnaissance, sabotaging, quick strikes and harassment tactics. If a war were to occur between North Korea and Japan, Japan really has no way of invading or bombing the North. North Korean commandos on the other hand can invade Japan with tiny boats, subs, rafts, swimming(yes you heard that right) and other methods. You see, the problem with Japan is that its an island. All its borders are surrounded by waters. Though this might make it easier to defend against larger forces, it makes it next to impossible to defend or even detect tiny squats who enter by stealth. Thats what North Koreans commandos specialize in. They can stealthily enter Japan and wear casual clothing to blend in with the crowd. Making it impossible for the Japanese army or police to detect. North Korean commandos can then sabotage japanese infrastructure(factories, military equipment, resources etc) and best of all, they can shut down and destroy Japans missile defense systems from the inside(which are surprisingly poorly guarded).

Japan as of yet has no method of countering North Koreas nuclear missiles. And even if they did, North Korean commandos would simply sabotage and destroy them with stealth. Without any method of countering North Koreas missiles, Japan is as good as dead. If a war were to occur between North Korea and Japan. And there was no intervention from countries like the US or Russia. Japan would be destroyed without even putting up much of a fight. Commandos + Nuke = game over japan. There are like 30 million people living in Tokyo. One nuke would utterly cripple Japans capitol and population SIGNIFICANTLY. If you thought Hiroshima and Nagasaki was bad, war with North Korea would utterly ruin Japan. Theres a reason why the Japanese are scared $hitless of the Norks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...of_armed_forces

EAD,

I won't quote you because there's not enough bandwidth on AF to do so. jk.

Here's what respected military analysts think.

http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomake...s/armies/ea.asp

Strategypage agrees with you, but its ranking is suspect.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/

Globalfirepower disagrees with you.

What you say about the ROKAF and JSDF air component may be true. Jpn is in deep trouble until they can deploy the F-35 in large numbers. But the ROKAF is also based on fourth generation attack and fighter aircraft. The PLAAF is close to air superiority over both SK and JPN. Imo both countries air forces are vulnerable to SAMs and SM-2s.

The JMSDF is stronger than the ROKN. Mines can be cleared. The ROKN has made great strides with its surface fleet. Imo its submarine force needs work. An engagement between the two countries would be a bloodbath.

The land forces of both countries lack actual combat experience. But then the same can be said about the PLA.

The air, naval and ground components of the DPRK military are worse than useless. NK has allowed its conventional military to atrophy. Its Taepodong I missiles are good, but JPN has mastered the SM-3 anti-missile system with Aegis radars. The Taepodong II has been tested once. The flight was aborted less than a minute into flight.

NK has some unknown number of plutonium bombs, but it lacks credible delivery systems. The real thread from NK is proliferation of nuclear weapons.

The DPRK has the world's largest number of special operations forces, but way too many of them are middle-aged, and none has actual combat experience.

I am not disagreeing with your ROK vs. JPN conclusions, but I am not certain that the outcome of any air/naval confrontation can be predicted with confidence. Anyway, thanks for the detailed analysis. You have a keen mind.

theres no need for all that detail, combat is combat.

ROK would stomp Japan out of existance if need be, it's up to Japan if they think they are ready.

chinilpa just got @$$ raped AGAIN! ROTFLMAO

three years are enough to prepare against korea

at first. Japan stops the guarantee of the currency of South Korea.
The South Korea economy will collapse the next day.


important points about how to treat korean soldier at that time.
Note that the Korean has the custom of crying " aigooo" and running away when it is dangerous
in the arena of warfare



I think the differece between the japanese and the korean is ..
The Japanese gathers and cooperates at the crisis.
the Korean disjoints and runs away.

I'll be quite honest with you: South Korea is not really a major military powerhouse in the area. That difference will only grow bigger as time passes. Let's face it, in a few more years, the only countries that matter in the region is the U.S., Japan and China. South Korea? Not so much.

Here we have an Korean pride boy talking about how North Korea is going to "destroy" Japan. I never knew the Norks was able to fit a nuke onto a missile to begin with. And commandos swimming across the Sea of Japan? South Korea's invincible army and air force? Scary stuff indeed! When's it coming out in theaters?

Funny to see the desperate Pro Japanese trying to make some sense.

Whats your point Japenis?


you really think we can't build enough of this ones?


We have the largest shipyard in the world:

Hyundai Heavy Industries Ulsan Shipyard, in South Korea, is currently the largest in the world and has the capability to build a variety of vessels including Commercial Cargo, Offshore and Naval vessels.

LOOOOL

truth is nobody even knew china even HAD a military, roflzzz.

china's military is so poorly trained, no experience in anything, even a street fight lol.

Keep running your mouth kal. S Korea not really a major powerhouse is just your stupid dumb anti-Korea opinion.

the Norks ARE capable of destroying the Japanese nuclear plants and you are just naive enough to under-estimate their special op forces.

You must play too much manga games. Go back to playing warcraft on your nintendo wii.

Oh, and if @$$hole becomes PM of Japan, he will also stir $hit with China too. Dream on, because I'm laughing at all your idiotic comments.

Hmm..it's very interesting to see how different the mentality of Korean netizen trolls are from those of their Japanese or even Chinese counterparts when arguing over a certain issue of debate.

The method and manner by which Japanese or Chinese will debate is to point out specific issues and explain in mature language and behavior about why they find fault in the argument of Koreans. They will also list specific points and provide facts or evidence in support of their claims. Their manner of writing and debate is to list all points of dispute and say, "The first point with which I do not agree is this and this is why.."

Contrast this mature and very logical calm way of debate to the way how Koreans will argue over the same issue. Instead of responding in the same mature and logical manner as their Japanese/Chinese counterparts, Koreans seem to prefer to use swear words, cursing, and profanity in addition to resorting to racist name calling like the person above. Basically, Koreans seem like they are not capable of writing any messages without using words like "f-ck", "s-it", "go to hell", "dirty j-p/c-ink", "penis" and so on. I guess Koreans seem to have a proclivity toward using dirty language and obsene insults whereas Japanese and Chinese prefer to debate and argue like mature adults.

This tells us alot about the mentality and culture of these three Asian nations. Two of them are civililzed and mature nations whereas Korea seems to remind me of how low-education, low class, criminal degenerates act. Oh well..c'est la vie.

the only thing i see is a white two-post nazi troll calling a senior member a troll.

EDIT (for the two-post troll): Its pretty obvious that the Japenis only want to stir $hit, if you knew korean you would see it in his name "Chinilpa". Also he doesn't have some real points the only thing he says is that Korea will never be a superpower and surpass Japan militarily for whatever reasons. So I said "Whats your point"

"Japenis"...that's really mature. Is that how most Korean men in their 30's talk? They like to call other people names by likening them to male anatomy and penises? In all of the other countries to which I have traveled, little children who are the age of 8 to 12 years old behave like that, but they grow out of it by age 13. Funny how Korean guys like you who are in their 20's and 30's or 40's continue to be have like that.

Koreans sure are interesting creatures.

LOL, Johnny Hamster the gay troll is back




Johnny you're so funny, your behavior is EVEN MORE CHILDISH THAN EVERY KOREAN BEHAVIOR. LOL

Will you rename yourself after the elections or are you just a troll????

Your kidding right?

Hahahahahaha.

BUT, I have seen my share of Chinese acting like Koreans from time to time. So we shouldent be too biased.

How dare the Koreans use such a bad word like "penis" or even worse the Eff Yoou see Kay word.


I guess there are lots of gay trolls in the korean chat and I am not talking about koreans themselves.

Well, yes...Chinese do act like Koreans sometimes. However, those Chinese usually are about 10 years old. However, their Korean equivalents are 25 to 40 years old. LOL. Basically, a Chinese 10 year old has the same level of maturity as a 30 year old Korean troll loser who spends 24 hours/day on Asiafinest.

Koreans don't add much to intellectual discussion but they sure are entertaining to watch....kind of like watching circus animals perform. LOL.

ROFLZ.

the sad part is i'm not, i'm a marine, you should hear what the fellow marines think about the chinese military lol.

Koreans are much better than those white hypocrites faggots who complain about users who use the word "penis"even if they don't know about the users age.

Too funny

Johnny OWNED again

I never knew that "Penis" is such a vulgar word in whiteys culture.


hahahahaha