So what if Spain had managed to hold on to Taiwan which was called Formosa. Chances are it would it today be part of the Philippines or not??
This is what someone in another site wrote.
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post Jan 20 2005, 08:19 AM
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I am very curious about Taiwan because interestingly, Taiwan is originally inhabited by Malay/Polynesian people known as Gaoshan in Chinese or Takasago in Japanese. Right now, Taiwan is under Chinese rule and the Malay people (Taiwan Aborigines) are suppressed under it's regime. Only recently Taiwanese Aborigines started to get more recognition and its respect.
I started to wonder what would have happened if Taiwan was under Spanish rule like the Philippines. Spanish did maintain a colony in northern Taiwan (1626-1642 -- headquartered in present-day Keelung). Of course, they were kicked off by the Dutch which were later kicked out by the Half Chinese half Japanese guy.
If Taiwan was under Spanish rule, I wonder if they would have been like the Philippines and be a Malay country. It just hurts my feeling because as a part Pinoy (Filipino), Malay people are treated as a second class citizen in their own country. I also wonder what happened to all the Aborigines there because their population is so low.
Curious. What do you think would have happened?
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I am very curious about Taiwan because interestingly, Taiwan is originally inhabited by Malay/Polynesian people known as Gaoshan in Chinese or Takasago in Japanese. Right now, Taiwan is under Chinese rule and the Malay people (Taiwan Aborigines) are suppressed under it's regime. Only recently Taiwanese Aborigines started to get more recognition and its respect.
I started to wonder what would have happened if Taiwan was under Spanish rule like the Philippines. Spanish did maintain a colony in northern Taiwan (1626-1642 -- headquartered in present-day Keelung). Of course, they were kicked off by the Dutch which were later kicked out by the Half Chinese half Japanese guy.
If Taiwan was under Spanish rule, I wonder if they would have been like the Philippines and be a Malay country. It just hurts my feeling because as a part Pinoy (Filipino), Malay people are treated as a second class citizen in their own country. I also wonder what happened to all the Aborigines there because their population is so low.
Curious. What do you think would have happened?
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post May 14 2008, 08:43 PM
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I don't think the Spanish (or the Dutch for that matter) ever had a chance in Taiwan, for the same reason that so few Taiwan aborigines remaining today: mass migration from China due to the island's proximity to the mainland and the fact that the migrations took place at a time when the aborigine tribes were largely preoccupied fighting one another and unable to present a united defense.
The question you are really asking, why the Malays (as well as the indigenous peoples of South America, Native American, Inuits, Australian Aborigines, etc.) are often overtaken by "foreigners" in their own lands, is, I think, well explained in a book called Guns, Germs and Steel. It's a matter of geographical advantages and
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I don't think the Spanish (or the Dutch for that matter) ever had a chance in Taiwan, for the same reason that so few Taiwan aborigines remaining today: mass migration from China due to the island's proximity to the mainland and the fact that the migrations took place at a time when the aborigine tribes were largely preoccupied fighting one another and unable to present a united defense.
The question you are really asking, why the Malays (as well as the indigenous peoples of South America, Native American, Inuits, Australian Aborigines, etc.) are often overtaken by "foreigners" in their own lands, is, I think, well explained in a book called Guns, Germs and Steel. It's a matter of geographical advantages and
This following is a Map of the Luzon Straits that separates Taiwan (Formosa) from Luzon. From the Bashi channel south is Philippines territory. So it seems 2/3 of the Luzon strait is under Philippines control since most of the small islands in the straits are part of the Philippines. From the big island of Luzon to Taiwan its 250 km. or 155 miles. Taiwan is about 150 km. or about 95 miles East of mainland China.
Map: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...trait_n7184.jpg
Map: http://www.malapascua.de/Volcanoe-Map/Bata...Irayat_Map2.gif
On this above Batan Islands are in the Philippines. The small island to the right of the southern most tip of Taiwan is called Orchid Island. Orchid Island is also called Lanyu in mandarin.
Yami Natives live there. They originally migrated from the Philippines centuries back.
Problem is Taiwan started sending nuclear waste there starting in 1982. They say there are 100000 barrels of nuclear waste on that small island. They stopped shipping wastes there in 2002. They were thinking of sending the waste to North Korea and or to the Republic of the Marshall Islands in the Pacific.
Another map of Batan Islands. http://www.malapascua.de/Volcanoe-Map/Bata...lands_Mapx3.gif
From Philippines Northern most island of Y'ami you can see Taiwan.
Map: http://www.gpscity.com/g/gps/l/m/mae003r.gif
On the map just above the island of Ibayat is part of the philippines. Lanyu is that taiwanese island 40 miles off Taiwan which has 100000 barrels of contaminated waste.
Map of larger area: http://www.typhoon2000.ph/activetrack.gif