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China's netizens menace Vietnam September 11, 2008
THE Rudd Government's warnings of substantial regional arms build-ups have been thrown into sharp relief by Chinese "netizens" warning that Vietnam risks invasion if it continues with its moves to explore the South China Sea for valuable oil and gas.

The Chinese internet threats underline the risk of energy issues triggering clashes between east Asian neighbours, a problem highlighted by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on Tuesday.

China has been pressuring ExxonMobil to withdraw from an exploration deal with PetroVietnam, and Vietnam is lodging a complaint about Chinese online rumours of invasion plans.

China has claimed much of the Spratly Islands and part of the continental shelves of The Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia and Brunei, as well as of Vietnam, in its determination to control the development of petrochemical exploitation in the region. The Association of South East Asian Nations has pinned some of its reputation on resolving these disagreements.

The sporadic diplomatic spats over access to resources in the South China Sea became more serious several weeks ago, when China warned ExxonMobil, the world's largest oil corporation, that its business in China would be imperilled if it failed to withdraw from joint exploration deals with Vietnam.

Soon after that, what purported to be Chinese invasion plans for Vietnam were posted on major websites in China, including the market leader, sina.com.

The South China Morning Post reported that the Vietnamese Government had issued a formal protest to China in response -- aware that Beijing has the capacity, if it wishes, to block access to the internet for such material.

The purported invasion plans refer to five days of missile strikes from land, sea and air, followed by the downward thrust of 310,000 troops. They rehearse the blocking of routes through the South China Sea -- which would be disastrous for Australia, because most of its lucrative commodity exports to China, Japan and South Korea traverse those waters.

The plans claim that Vietnam "is a major threat to the safety of Chinese territories, and the biggest obstacle to the peaceful emergence of China", as well as "the strategic hub of the whole of Southeast Asia".

They say that "Vietnam has to be conquered first if Southeast Asia is to be under China's control again." One version of the plan is headlined: "One battle to set the region in order."

No analyst is taking these internet postings seriously, however -- except that they indicate the intensity of Beijing's desire to put pressure on Hanoi to co-operate on oil exploration, even off its own coast.

China last attempted to invade Vietnam in 1979 -- a move that ended disastrously for Beijing, defeated in a war that today is quietly forgotten.

Vietnamese Foreign Ministry spokesman Le Dung told the South China Morning Post that Beijing officials had been asked "to act so that such negative articles will not appear again since these may be harmful to ... bilateral relations.

"This is irrelevant information, which goes against the trend of peace, friendship and co-operation for development in the region and the world and is not in the interests of the fine relationship existing between Vietnam and China."

SoCal
Why hasn't Beijing taken down those websites?

This is like a slap of the face to Hanoi? confused.gif
VietPunk
lol keyboard warriors
vietnam
QUOTE(SoCal @ Sep 10 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]3916701[/snapback]
Why hasn't Beijing taken down those websites?

This is like a slap of the face to Hanoi? confused.gif

These websites are very popular and pro-government. They are used to work-up the sense of nationalism among the Chineses. (I wouldn't under estimate their effectiveness) The propagandas machines are working to ensure if push come to shove, they are ready.

phreezen
The original article that was written about the so called 'invasion plans' was started by SCMP(South China Morning Post). It's nothing more than misinformation. A lot of the writers for SCMP are white. SCMP was controlled by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp before it was sold in 87. If you read the article(in the first post) it cites the SCMP as the source. RedOrbit, who reposted it first, also cites SCMP as their source.


The thing is, it isn't the first time SCMP tried to do misinformation. They have become somewhat of a joke. During the China Olympics, they(SCMP) tried and spread misinformation that China was banning Blacks and Mongolians from bars. A lot of the mainstream media from America picked up on the story but it was never confirmed and later it was removed completely from SCMP. Many bloggers debunked it right away. Just do a search on SCMP, Blacks, Banned, and Mongolians for more info.

Linked to Time.com, talking about the unconfirmed SCMP article on Blacks/Mongolians being banned.
http://time-blog.com/china_blog/2008/07/on...l?xid=rss-china


America must be really scare of China rising....sad really
vietnam
May be you should check in here

http://de.blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-x1zJTRU5...p2ZBBk8O.J3?cq=

go down to the article w/ the tittle " Việt Nam đ chuẩn bị chiến tranh, Trung Quốc cn chờ đợi điều g?
vietnam
About Chinese bloggers, there is a little dirty secret about some of them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/vietnamese/forum/stor...adang50xu.shtml
phreezen
QUOTE(vietnam @ Sep 11 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]3917926[/snapback]
About Chinese bloggers, there is a little dirty secret about some of them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/vietnamese/forum/stor...adang50xu.shtml


Chinese netizens isn't some big secret. Everyone knows.


Just as funny as BBC, RFA, and the other anti-commie web sites.
vietnam
but they (BBC, RFA..etc) don't earn .50 cent per post "anti-comie" ( your own words) from the American government, do they? embarassedlaugh.gif

Hey, that's one easy summer job for one w/ access to the computer, and one can feel proud thinking,"yeah, I'm defending my country against the whities, reactionaries, traitors, turn-coat, changed-blood......or whatever". I wonder if VN employs such a team, too?
phreezen
QUOTE(vietnam @ Sep 11 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]3917964[/snapback]
but they (BBC, RFA..etc) don't earn .50 cent per post "anti-comie" ( your own words) from the American government, do they? embarassedlaugh.gif

Hey, that's one easy summer job for one w/ access to the computer, and one can feel proud thinking,"yeah, I'm defending my country against the whities, reactionaries, traitors, turn-coat, changed-blood......or whatever". I wonder if VN employs such a team, too?


Of course they are paid(don't know the exact amount). They are Government funded, a propaganda arm. That too is no big secret. A simple search will tell you..


That explains the daily spamming by the anti-commies.


valley
i dont see why this is big news.
these are just little kids typing up plans for the invasion of Vietnam.
if these people can come up with a plan to invade Vietnam, there ought to be others that are coming up with the defensive strategy.

no big deals.
but it does portray something that all Viets should start thinking about?

eh?
BanMeAgainAndProveMeRight
not surprising at all.

the chinese have done this to a large number of groups.

spreading lies, propaganda is typical and normal for them so don't expect them to stop soon.

just ignore them like the rest of the world lol.
VHM
QUOTE(BanMeAgainAndProveMeRight @ Sep 15 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]3922349[/snapback]
not surprising at all.

the chinese have done this to a large number of groups.

spreading lies, propaganda is typical and normal for them so don't expect them to stop soon.

just ignore them like the rest of the world lol.


Umm..excuse me, you must have never heard of the group called Reporters Without Borders.
They are an internationally actively reporting group dedicated to unbiased presentation of information, but they go over to the extremes sometimes.
The fact that they're not spilling out 500 pages per minute all about the Chinese government indicates that spreading of lies and propaganda isn't 'typical' and 'normal' for the Chinese.
Are you one of those people who determinedly hates China and deliberately exaggerates obscure information to misrepresent them?
Cubanoo
some of them are Khmer in real life. In fact may be almost all of them like the 70%

check here

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=224808
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