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Dim_Sum_4_U
Im using vista home basic and just a week ago, my physical memory started to shoot up. I tried restarting, shuting down, disk cleaning, stopping "window explorer", running NOD32, and AD adware to clean my comp but i still start out with 500+ physical memory being used. I don't have any viruses or spyware. Wtf is going on? My computer is really slow and certain programs just shut down because my comp is so slow. Does anyone know wtf is going on?
jiwa
QUOTE(Dim_Sum_4_U @ Sep 24 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]3935999[/snapback]
Im using vista home basic and just a week ago, my physical memory started to shoot up. I tried restarting, shuting down, disk cleaning, stopping "window explorer", running NOD32, and AD adware to clean my comp but i still start out with 500+ physical memory being used. I don't have any viruses or spyware. Wtf is going on? My computer is really slow and certain programs just shut down because my comp is so slow. Does anyone know wtf is going on?


How much memory do you currently have on your motherboard and which CPU do you have? Do you run heavy applications also?
You can stack a total of 4 ghz on your motherboard and Vista can handle it biggrin.gif
Does your Operating system freeze when using a particular program? If so, then
maybe an application that y'r running is causing your Operating system to freeze (memoryleack)?

I hope everything works out for you,
But I'm betting that you have 2 ghz of memory on y'r motherboard...


Dual channel Memory.
4 of these would be exelent:
Sabretooth
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planxty
QUOTE(Dim_Sum_4_U @ Sep 24 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]3935999[/snapback]
Im using vista home basic and just a week ago, my physical memory started to shoot up. I tried restarting, shuting down, disk cleaning, stopping "window explorer", running NOD32, and AD adware to clean my comp but i still start out with 500+ physical memory being used. I don't have any viruses or spyware. Wtf is going on? My computer is really slow and certain programs just shut down because my comp is so slow. Does anyone know wtf is going on?

In Win XP, you can open up the Task Manager and see how much memory each program is using. Is there nothing similar in Vista?
ForestGuardian
QUOTE(Dim_Sum_4_U @ Sep 24 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]3935999[/snapback]
Im using vista home basic and just a week ago, my physical memory started to shoot up. I tried restarting, shuting down, disk cleaning, stopping "window explorer", running NOD32, and AD adware to clean my comp but i still start out with 500+ physical memory being used. I don't have any viruses or spyware. Wtf is going on? My computer is really slow and certain programs just shut down because my comp is so slow. Does anyone know wtf is going on?

Vista is something new to get used to. It's different from XP. The concept is to use all the hardwares that you have paid for. I mean why pay for memory and let it sits unused in your PC? That is kind of silly, isn't it? And that is what Microsoft is thinking for vista. If you used a certain program often, it knows it, and it loaded iit nto memory for you, just to get it ready for you. That way when you decide to start the program, it starts at lightning speed from memory without having to wait for it to come from your hard drive, and that is why you don't see too many free memory on your PC at anytime, and the same goes for the hard drive too. I mean it stores various version of dlls for different programs ...

At any rate, if you can disable some of the services such as "task scheduler", "Windows defenders", ... you can get by with 1 GBytes of memory. I mean if you don't run too many applications. Otherwise, a minimum memory will have to be 2 Gigabytes, but 4 is desirable. That way, Vista can keep some of the program that you used often in memory, and still have room for you to run a rarely used application. Otherwise, it will take time to swap out some program in memory for the rarely used program.

Sabretooth
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laguna
Basically what ForestGuardian said.
This guy gives a comparison and an explanation:
Why Does Vista Use All My Memory?
ForestGuardian
Frankly, I like the SuperFetch concept. However, whether or not Microsoft implementing it correctly is another story. I don't think they did it correctly. I think Vista will NOT be appreciated as Windows2000 was.

I have tested both Vista x32 and x64. It does a fine job when you don't have much application. It feels better than XP, but when you start to have a lot of applications, it feel worse than XP. This is because application today is huge and Vista can't decided what to keep what to swap out. Furthermore, typical hard drive can only deliver about 1Gigabyte/minute into memory. Thus, if you have 4 Gigabytes of memory to be load up, that will take about 4 minutes. Do you know how boring it is to wait 4 minutes to use your PC? You can't run anything during this period because it will be slow as hell.

In any case, Vista is not for me because I have too many toys, but it work great for my Mom. It is very reliable, and I don't get too many annoying service call from her, LOL. All she uses is internet, and MS Word to write letter, and Acrobat Reader to read some PDF files. Other than that, some of my nephews used for games, and that is it. So it is great. Typically, that is what average people used the PC for, thus Microsoft is luck out. Otherwise, they will be in hell, I say. They should never take huge leap like that. They should do half and half as a transition to Vista. I mean just use half of the memory for Superfetch and leave the other half as it was, at least until they got all of the bug iron out. I think this poor decision should tied them up pass Service Pack 6, LOL.
forgiveness
windows vista alone uses near 1 gigs of ram just to load up. that means that either you are running on virtual memory(info written on to the disk because you ran out of RAM) or your computer for some reason prefers to write to the harddrive first then write to the RAM.

another check is if you are running with a virtual drive on. you might have something mounted and not know it.
Dim_Sum_4_U
Sorry to get back to late but I have about 2 gigs of ram and i disabled anything that would load once i turned my comp on (stuff like aim) but I did what ForestGuardian said and im guessing that was the problem. I had to many applications that didn't need to be running even though it didnt effect my cpu usage. My physical memeber is still hovering around 55% even when im not running anything but I have to much crap on my comp for work and school so.....I cut some things out so it doesnt reach 60% that often.
ForestGuardian
I think you are alright, if you got 55% of free memory on start up. That is about what my Mom got also. The stuff that is preloaded are common modules that is shared among other programs and it will decided to swap in and out depending on its usability. Don't worry about some program that run slow at first. Keep using it and allow Vista to learn it, in particular, hit all of the features that is applicable to your work; that way, Vista will load and find a spot for all DLL modules and all of the support files for you after three to four run or so -- keep in mind, I am talking theory now, LOL, whether it will do what it supposed to do correctly is another story.

And depending on how big each of the program you are using, you can estimate whether or not 2 Gigs is enough for all of your favorite programs.

Also, how big is your "C" or "local" drive? I think minimum should be 80Gigs. I made an error with my Mom's PC by only partition it for 30Gigs. The nephews will have to uninstall some of the games first before they could add any new one, LOL.

Secondly, another thing to get use to is not to power down after you done with the computer. Use "Hybernate" or "Sleep". That way, you don't have to wait for the whole power up sequence that vista is going through each time you want to use your computer. Use power down only if you must reset the system to clean everything out, perhaps, once out of 20-30 hibernate or so.

Last but not least, since vista love to do memory page swapping, it will be great if you can assigned your virtual memory to a different physical drive. That will double the speed of memory page swapping because reading and writing on the same drive is too much load for one hard drive.

That's about it.

PS: Oh and also check your "task scheduler" to make sure it doesn't launch anything while you are using your program because that could also spoil your day, LOL. On my Mom's PC I just disable the damn thing. I got caught competing with it doing spy scan while I try to process some video files. what a night mare, I tell you.
laguna
I disable SuperFetch for the simple reason of wanting a longer HDD lifespan. Data on my HDD is more important than my HDD thrashing and 0.1sec of performance.

Windows key + R
Type: services.msc
find the SuperFetch service
open it, stop it, disable it.
done

ForestGuardian
Wow, I didn't even know you can disable the Superfetch. I will try it out to see if it will work for me.
I don't think I want to use it until after Sevice Pack 5 or so, LOL.

Thanks!
krayzii
tried msconfig? processes? management?
Dim_Sum_4_U
Wait, what is SuperFetch and do I need it? I already tried msconfig to cut out all the crap that pops up when I turn on my comp but I don't think it worked vary well. Um, I have 160gigs on my comp and I'm to poor to buy more ram....college bills 8(
ForestGuardian
SuperFetch is what load you favorite programs for you automatically into memory. It can be great, but we don't know to what extend.

I think you will be okay. If some of your program keep on shutting down after several run. I would check to see if it is Vista compatible first because not all XP program can run on Vista, especially driver or anything that interface to hardware.

In any case, I won't fixed too many things because you may regret it. Fix thing only if you have problem. I mean one at the time. That way you'll know what work and what not.
ForestGuardian
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention is vLite. I don't know if anyone have played with it. It's kind of neat. Instead of customize your Vista or XP after your install the program, you can do virtual everything before you install your Vista or XP.

The way it work is you copy all of the files from the installation DVD to your hard drive, and then you use vLite to disable any feature that you don't need, then you can create a new installation DVD that will only install what you need. It's a pretty neat utility. If you have time, try it out. Here the link where you can learn more about it:

http://apcmag.com/build_a_custom_vista_ins..._with_vlite.htm

Good luck!

jiwa
^Wow, that's some interesting Information ForestGuardian biggrin.gif Thnx for the tip!
SpeedyG
windows vista sucks
too many bugs
needs fixing big time

Redo XP
lol

but yea
Mac Rulz

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ForestGuardian
No argument! embarassedlaugh.gif
martin_nuke
Blue screen of death

meben
Oh After reading all of your discussions here in forum my piece of advice to Dim_sim is that you do check your RAM by Linux or Vista included Tool memcheck which will tell you some more cool things to look after

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Metropolitan
The superfetch feature for Vista 32 / 64 better be what y'all claim because at running state with nothing much running my notebook consumes about 1.4 gigs of ram and my 9700M GT adapter has 2200mb allocated for it.. all I got is 4 gigs of DDR2 800mhz to work with a 1066mhz FSB..
thomson2008
Since Windows Vista's launch, the drivers have been a big issue. Lots of hardware components (old and new) had no drivers for Windows Vista or, even if they had, their quality was very poor. One of the most prominent examples is Nvidia. When the GeForce 8800 graphic cards were launched, they were labeled as "Designed for Windows Vista". It is only natural that many people asumed the graphic cards would work well with this operating system.
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ForestGuardian
Indeed, I have an onboard Nvidia, and the Vista driver missing the custom resolution setting. I need 1440x1080 for my work. I haven't look on the web lately to see if they fix it. I don't have this problem with XP system.

Secondly, I also have an onboard soundchip, and the Vista driver create too much noise, but luckily, I was able to use the XP sound driver as a substitute but missing some level control.
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