Full Version: Mongolia must have nuclear weapon
Best answer is fu-kin yeah
QUOTE(YouAgain @ Oct 6 2008, 06:05 AM) [snapback]3953119[/snapback]
Mongolia must have nuclear weopon
I agree that Mongolia should have "No-Clear Weapons"
Whatever you say we will have this
My dear brother UCP!
Let's build Mongolia as a super power silently! One day we will spray shame on enemies who defame our culture and people!
Let's build Mongolia as a super power silently! One day we will spray shame on enemies who defame our culture and people!
I think its too late.
So is Mongolia under someones Umbrella. Would think they use to be under Russias Umbrella.
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Nuclear-weapon-free country
Several countries have declared their nuclear-weapon-free status. However, Mongolia's single state nuclear free status is the only one which was endorsed by the United Nations General Assembly. For example, New Zealand established a Nuclear Free Zone Act. Japan also has the three non-nuclear principles, but they are not legally binding.
Several countries have declared their nuclear-weapon-free status. However, Mongolia's single state nuclear free status is the only one which was endorsed by the United Nations General Assembly. For example, New Zealand established a Nuclear Free Zone Act. Japan also has the three non-nuclear principles, but they are not legally binding.
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Nuclear-Weapon-Free Status of Mongolia
UN General Assembly Resolution 3261 adopted on 9 December 1974, recognized the possibility that a single-state nuclear-weapon-free zone could be established. The Mongolian government declared itself a single-state nuclear-weapon-free zone at the 47th session of the UN General Assembly in 1992. The 55th session of the UN General Assembly (2000) adopted Resolution 55/33S on "Mongolia's international security and nuclear weapon free status”. Like other existing NWFZs, Mongolia's single-state NWFZ, which prohibits nuclear testing, is recognized internationally and contains verification and compliance mechanisms. Although the Law of Mongolia on its NWFZ status provides for verification and compliance mechanisms, the only mechanisms that have been established are Mongolia's comprehensive safeguards agreement with the IAEA and the additional protocol to that agreement.
UN General Assembly Resolution 3261 adopted on 9 December 1974, recognized the possibility that a single-state nuclear-weapon-free zone could be established. The Mongolian government declared itself a single-state nuclear-weapon-free zone at the 47th session of the UN General Assembly in 1992. The 55th session of the UN General Assembly (2000) adopted Resolution 55/33S on "Mongolia's international security and nuclear weapon free status”. Like other existing NWFZs, Mongolia's single-state NWFZ, which prohibits nuclear testing, is recognized internationally and contains verification and compliance mechanisms. Although the Law of Mongolia on its NWFZ status provides for verification and compliance mechanisms, the only mechanisms that have been established are Mongolia's comprehensive safeguards agreement with the IAEA and the additional protocol to that agreement.
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Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone
A geographical area in which nuclear weapons are not allowed to be built, possessed, transferred, deployed or tested.
A geographical area in which nuclear weapons are not allowed to be built, possessed, transferred, deployed or tested.
So is Mongolia under someones Umbrella. Would think they use to be under Russias Umbrella.
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Nuclear umbrella
Also known as extended deterrence, the term describes security derived through military protection from a nuclear power. A country protected from potential enemies by the nuclear weapons of an ally is said to be under a nuclear umbrella. By coming under a nuclear umbrella, countries allied with a nuclear weapon state hope to deter nuclear attack or threat from other countries.
Also known as extended deterrence, the term describes security derived through military protection from a nuclear power. A country protected from potential enemies by the nuclear weapons of an ally is said to be under a nuclear umbrella. By coming under a nuclear umbrella, countries allied with a nuclear weapon state hope to deter nuclear attack or threat from other countries.
on my opinion i think nuclear weapons are useless now you guys should be advance and get air borne lasers 
*does laser sound *
*does laser sound *
Mongolia do not need a nuke missile.
What Mongolia need is a nuke reactor to provide efficient energy production that can supply electricity & power production to help Mongolian infrastructure development, greatly kickstarted the economy & make Mongolia's economic & social growth on equal footing with the rest of advanced 3rd world countries.
What Mongolia need is a nuke reactor to provide efficient energy production that can supply electricity & power production to help Mongolian infrastructure development, greatly kickstarted the economy & make Mongolia's economic & social growth on equal footing with the rest of advanced 3rd world countries.
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Oct 8 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]3956117[/snapback]
Mongolia do not need a nuke missile.
What Mongolia need is a nuke reactor to provide efficient energy production that can supply electricity & power production to help Mongolian infrastructure development, greatly kickstarted the economy & make Mongolia's economic & social growth on equal footing with the rest of advanced 3rd world countries.
What Mongolia need is a nuke reactor to provide efficient energy production that can supply electricity & power production to help Mongolian infrastructure development, greatly kickstarted the economy & make Mongolia's economic & social growth on equal footing with the rest of advanced 3rd world countries.
makes sense. why want nuclear weapon when you can not use on your so call enemy China. Nuke reactor is the way to go.
allah akbar
QUOTE(YouAgain @ Oct 6 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]3953119[/snapback]
Mongolia must have nuclear weapon
Suck up to the USA and get them to provide Mongolia with a Nuclear shield without you having to spend a penny.
It worked for Japan!
You can burn off uranium to plutonium in reactor
Mongolia have Uranium :)Now it's time to build something
Turanism can be of benefit here, though I would rather suggest anti-nuclear weapons rather then nukes. Genocide is not our way and NEVER should be. If you possess nukes you must be ready to use them, I hate that idea.
It is our way, and looks like to be the only.
Our way to use nukes? In the past we may have slaughted entire cities to make examples to our enemies so we may have peace, just like any old empires did, and just like the Americans did to Japan but these are nuclear weapons. You kill not only the population, you kill the future populations as well and the suffering is horrific with the fallout.
And even if we have 'em what we going to do with them? Wave them around at our neighbours and go give us land? Might as well start WW3 while we're at it then. Nah we have to approach all this a different way.
And even if we have 'em what we going to do with them? Wave them around at our neighbours and go give us land? Might as well start WW3 while we're at it then. Nah we have to approach all this a different way.
Uncontrollable escalations is a myth. It even was not possible even on a peak of a cold war.
Fallout is a megamyth.
I'm not talking about some kind of 1000MT one bomb one city doomsday device, I'm about far more real small tactical nukes that can turn the way of war easy way by taking out divisions with 1-2 charges and can be easy produced serial way. Not the TCBMs have won the battle for Europe in the cold war, but a thousands of small tactical nuclear and thermonuclear charges placed all over Warsow treaty borders. Soviet coms was dare enought to waste and lost almost all of their infrastructure and population of metropolies and industrial complexes, but to capture the Europe by reserve forces, but how they had to capture it if all of their tanks are just a huge drops of molten metall and RA soldiers turned into ionized gas? They tried their army to outnumber the amout of their forces needed to be vaporised in first encounter so the second wave could pass. Fortunately for us the plutonium/enemy divisions ratio has already grown far more than 1 by 1955, but they were so way stupid trying to outnumber even after that.
Fallout is a megamyth.
I'm not talking about some kind of 1000MT one bomb one city doomsday device, I'm about far more real small tactical nukes that can turn the way of war easy way by taking out divisions with 1-2 charges and can be easy produced serial way. Not the TCBMs have won the battle for Europe in the cold war, but a thousands of small tactical nuclear and thermonuclear charges placed all over Warsow treaty borders. Soviet coms was dare enought to waste and lost almost all of their infrastructure and population of metropolies and industrial complexes, but to capture the Europe by reserve forces, but how they had to capture it if all of their tanks are just a huge drops of molten metall and RA soldiers turned into ionized gas? They tried their army to outnumber the amout of their forces needed to be vaporised in first encounter so the second wave could pass. Fortunately for us the plutonium/enemy divisions ratio has already grown far more than 1 by 1955, but they were so way stupid trying to outnumber even after that.
Hmmm, I see. I'll leave that for you guys :P
My job is to win the war before it even starts by simply controlling the right people
My job is to win the war before it even starts by simply controlling the right people
It is a disgrace for Mongolians to have nukes.....
Mongols are great warriors and they have conquered the world riding on their ponies. The Mongols could conquer the world back then on ponies so I see now problem for them to conquer the world again riding on Motorcycles.
Mongols are great warriors and they have conquered the world riding on their ponies. The Mongols could conquer the world back then on ponies so I see now problem for them to conquer the world again riding on Motorcycles.
^ Such flawed logic isnt deservant of a nuke, but a gas chamber
Nukes pull nations into conflicts rather than keep them out. A better way would be to join NATO. Since Mongolia is on the border of both Russia and China, I'm sure it would be an ideal candidate.
^You can't freakin be serious
Join NATO to antagonise the two countries that you are sandwiched between Genius you are
Join NATO to antagonise the two countries that you are sandwiched between
Genius you are
Will nato evaporate all of our enemy?
QUOTE(robot_devil @ Dec 11 2008, 05:08 AM) [snapback]4043266[/snapback]
^You can't freakin be serious
Join NATO to antagonise the two countries that you are sandwiched between Genius you are
Join NATO to antagonise the two countries that you are sandwiched between
Genius you are When a NATO country is antagonized, all of NATO is antagonized. That's the whole point of it. If Russia and China went to war with Mongolia, they'd be declaring war on all of these countries: http://www.nato.int/STRUCTUR/countries.htm
QUOTE(baybal @ Dec 11 2008, 06:49 AM) [snapback]4043325[/snapback]
Will nato evaporate all of our enemy?
Well, NATO is not an aggressive force, just a defensive one. If you guys wanted to attack someone, that'd be your war. But if you got attacked, then you have a bunch of powerful allies committed to protecting you. China seems very antagonistic and nationalistic right now, two attitudes which led to both WWI and WWII, so it could be a smart move.
The United States and Mongolia already have very close diplomatic ties.
Lol, thats the thing I'm right talked about. Nothing of todays conventional weaponry could stop Chinatank blitzkreig except tactical nukes. So we have a type of situation where even a "nuclear umbrella" could not help.
We are already spending a good amount of our country's wealth on our military. Much more then other GDPs in the world. Tactical nukes are expensive, we can't form a militant state yet maintain a strong economy at the same time. Besides, we already have the United States as a diplomatic ally who is equipped with the latest in military technology who are always ready to test out their new weaponry. We joined the War of Iraq and Afghanistan as well not just to train our troops - but build relations with the U.S.
Our military comprises of a small but well trained military with a huge militaristic history and patriotic spirit behind our back. China has already lost much of their population in many wars against us even in modern times - our resistance forces can't win against a full scale invasion today but we have our ways to inflict as many casualties on the enemy as much as possible. Resistance will be heavy that much is clear, if the Romans tried to invade Sparta for example they would have risked severely heavy casualties so instead formed a treaty even if they could have won.
Soldiers are sent to war via politician's decisions. If you control the politicians -> war and peace are mere buttons to be pushed. Diplomacy - we are renowned for more types of warfare then on the battlefield. Psychological warfare is one of them. You can spare lives both Mongol and Chinese by diplomatic feats. And the money that would have been spent on war machines spent on making our country richer and economically stronger.
Chingghis Khaan's goal in the end was for our people to remain free, and prosper. The Tanguts wished to subjicate our tribes one by one so we brought the fight to them, Persians executed our ambassadors so we answered a declaration of war with war itself. Russia did the same thing so we too brought the fight to them. Other nations refused to hand over enemies of state such as enemy tribes so we invaded Europe. Nowadays however we are free, and we can prosper. Some problems remain but that's our duty as Mongols to solve them. Besides, if war does come, I'd rather we have a much larger GDP to spend.
Our military comprises of a small but well trained military with a huge militaristic history and patriotic spirit behind our back. China has already lost much of their population in many wars against us even in modern times - our resistance forces can't win against a full scale invasion today but we have our ways to inflict as many casualties on the enemy as much as possible. Resistance will be heavy that much is clear, if the Romans tried to invade Sparta for example they would have risked severely heavy casualties so instead formed a treaty even if they could have won.
Soldiers are sent to war via politician's decisions. If you control the politicians -> war and peace are mere buttons to be pushed. Diplomacy - we are renowned for more types of warfare then on the battlefield. Psychological warfare is one of them. You can spare lives both Mongol and Chinese by diplomatic feats. And the money that would have been spent on war machines spent on making our country richer and economically stronger.
Chingghis Khaan's goal in the end was for our people to remain free, and prosper. The Tanguts wished to subjicate our tribes one by one so we brought the fight to them, Persians executed our ambassadors so we answered a declaration of war with war itself. Russia did the same thing so we too brought the fight to them. Other nations refused to hand over enemies of state such as enemy tribes so we invaded Europe. Nowadays however we are free, and we can prosper. Some problems remain but that's our duty as Mongols to solve them. Besides, if war does come, I'd rather we have a much larger GDP to spend.
Could you make a diplomacy with a braindead ccp? Any totalitary regime is totaly unpredictaible during crysises or so on. USSR is a good example, they used to attack every thing that they stumbled upon without any reason at all.
Same now for russia, todays govt cares nothing except their money and security, you could pressure their capitals and stability but when you press too tought they will attack you rat in the corner style.
We already have the U.S. to act as our "nuclear arsenal" against the CCP. We don't need our own, economic development is what patriotic citizens of Mongolia should inspire for.
As for Russia I wouldn't worry about them. You know nothing about the groups that my family themselves are involved in. Seperatism isn't dead in Russia, heh FAR from it. Hitler can try to exterminate the Jews to silence them but it didn't work, and it won't work with us either.
Both Russian and Chinese governments have far more enemies then you can imagine. Ne ways, you're in the wrong forum for such discussions. Check your pm box.
As for Russia I wouldn't worry about them. You know nothing about the groups that my family themselves are involved in. Seperatism isn't dead in Russia, heh FAR from it. Hitler can try to exterminate the Jews to silence them but it didn't work, and it won't work with us either.
Both Russian and Chinese governments have far more enemies then you can imagine. Ne ways, you're in the wrong forum for such discussions. Check your pm box.
LOL . WOW, delusions after delusions.
If a far more advance country like Iran is still ten years alway from it's first atomic weapon, what chance in hell does a much undeveloped/primitive Mongolia have in aquiring tactical nukes.
Nuclear deterant against the PRC? Why the hell would China require or resort to nukes in the first place. It seems some people are assuming far too much of the Mongolian army for sure.
What the hell can Mongolia bring to NATO anyways? Such that NATO will defend Mongolia to the last
. WOW, delusions after delusions. If a far more advance country like Iran is still ten years alway from it's first atomic weapon, what chance in hell does a much undeveloped/primitive Mongolia have in aquiring tactical nukes
. Nuclear deterant against the PRC? Why the hell would China require or resort to nukes in the first place. It seems some people are assuming far too much of the Mongolian army for sure.
What the hell can Mongolia bring to NATO anyways? Such that NATO will defend Mongolia to the last
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We already have the U.S. to act as our "nuclear arsenal" against the CCP. We don't need our own, economic development is what patriotic citizens of Mongolia should inspire for.
China wouldn't nuke Mongolia, but if they did America wouldn't risk getting involved. The only thing that would make America use its nukes against China or Russia is probably an attack on American soil, or Europe. They have more than enough to wipe out 90%+ of America's population in a retaliatory strike, even if it means their own country is decimated.
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