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film4reel
there were quite a few mainstream articles this week about a group of scientists in CA hoping to be the first to locate genghis khan's burial place.

i have a feeling they just might find it.


Researcher Hopes to Find Hidden Tomb of Genghis Khan Using Non-Invasive Technologies
Type98G
What will happen if the tomb is found in Inner Mongolia ?
tujue
I hope they fu-king DIE let the Khan rest in peace icon_sad.gif
Mongol Warrior
the date of revealation of Khan's tomb is just the date of total destruction of finder's life and his country!
Hafiz
QUOTE(tujue @ Oct 24 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]3980944[/snapback]
I hope they fu-king DIE let the Khan rest in peace icon_sad.gif


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film4reel
QUOTE(Mongol Warrior @ Oct 24 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]3980987[/snapback]
the date of revealation of Khan's tomb is just the date of total destruction of finder's life and his country!


*sighs*

well, funny you mentioned that....i think everyone knows what happened to the soviets when they found temur's tomb.
TooLate2Apologize
I hope they do find his tomb and eventually are able to extract his DNA. Im dying to find out what the genectic make up of this great man consist of.
AutobotTheLeader
QUOTE(TooLate2Apologize @ Oct 24 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]3981229[/snapback]
I hope they do find his tomb and eventually are able to extract his DNA. Im dying to find out what the genectic make up of this great man consist of.



Why? I dont think what he achieved was due to his genes but his spirit.
film4reel
QUOTE(AutobotTheLeader @ Oct 24 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]3981531[/snapback]
Why? I dont think what he achieved was due to his genes but his spirit.


spirit yes but genetics, imo, played a significant role. to have the ability to formulate and then create an exact military campaign free from error is simply genius. the amazing part is that GK mentally created successful warfare strategies without the aid of pen and paper. hell, if i don't write most things down then i'm screwed.

AutobotTheLeader
QUOTE(film4reel @ Oct 24 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]3981611[/snapback]
spirit yes but genetics, imo, played a significant role. to have the ability to formulate and then create an exact military campaign free from error is simply genius. the amazing part is that GK mentally created successful warfare strategies without the aid of pen and paper. hell, if i don't write most things down then i'm screwed.



I dont think genetics played a significant role. There are lots and lots of intelligent people in the world who never get as far as dumber people.


Who says Ghegnihs Khan never wrote anything down?
Did you know he sent spies into Europe for about a year before drawing out an invasion strategy? He didnt just plod into the territories he conquered.

When he ripped open Baghdad he got information from bandits of secret watering holes in the desert that only the thieves knew so he could treck the desert through a path the arabs thought impossible so he took them by suprise...there was meticulous planning involved in his conquests.


Was he a genius? Maybe, but who cares, theres nothing new about geniouses, there are many in the world. Maybe you would never be able to conquer the world because of your intelligence but thats just because your probably a little bit stoopid.
film4reel
QUOTE(AutobotTheLeader @ Oct 24 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]3981619[/snapback]
I dont think genetics played a significant role. There are lots and lots of intelligent people in the world who never get as far as dumber people.
Who says Ghegnihs Khan never wrote anything down?
Did you know he sent spies into Europe for about a year before drawing out an invasion strategy? He didnt just plod into the territories he conquered.

When he ripped open Baghdad he got information from bandits of secret watering holes in the desert that only the thieves knew so he could treck the desert through a path the arabs thought impossible so he took them by suprise...there was meticulous planning involved in his conquests.
Was he a genius? Maybe, but who cares, theres nothing new about geniouses, there are many in the world. Maybe you would never be able to conquer the world because of your intelligence but thats just because your probably a little bit stoopid.


there are not many geniuses in the world.

i highly doubt gk wrote anything down. during this time period the mongolic language was more than likely only spoken.

i know all about the spies, bandits and xy and z. that's why i believe there had to be a genetic component involved.

btw, there's no need for name-calling nit wit.

AutobotTheLeader
QUOTE(film4reel @ Oct 24 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]3981634[/snapback]
there are not many geniuses in the world.

i highly doubt gk wrote anything down. during this time period the mongolic language was more than likely only spoken.

i know all about the spies, bandits and xy and z. that's why i believe there had to be a genetic component involved.

btw, there's no need for name-calling nit wit.



At any rate i believe there is nothing to be gained by analyszing Ghegnihs Khans DNA, it was all in his spirit. Yes, he was prob above medium intelligence but after than anything goes, considering he had such strong heart and spirit, i dont thin kth at registers in DNA. It was his heart, the man was all heart. Heart, mind and soul, he wanted his mongols to prosper and stop the cycle of poverty, despiar and alcohol. He knew this, i feel this man, his blood pumps in my veins, this is what i believe. His rage was also something i understand, he came from nothing like most east asians but he had balls, he dared to conquer unlike many east asians. Thats why so many of my mongols shun asians and embrace those dirty white russians.

You cannot recreate the spirit, it is gone, he should be left alone.
film4reel
QUOTE(AutobotTheLeader @ Oct 25 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]3982247[/snapback]
At any rate i believe there is nothing to be gained by analyszing Ghegnihs Khans DNA, it was all in his spirit. Yes, he was prob above medium intelligence but after than anything goes, considering he had such strong heart and spirit, i dont thin kth at registers in DNA. It was his heart, the man was all heart. Heart, mind and soul, he wanted his mongols to prosper and stop the cycle of poverty, despiar and alcohol. He knew this, i feel this man, his blood pumps in my veins, this is what i believe. His rage was also something i understand, he came from nothing like most east asians but he had balls, he dared to conquer unlike many east asians. Thats why so many of my mongols shun asians and embrace those dirty white russians.

You cannot recreate the spirit, it is gone, he should be left alone.


are you 10 years old or something? there is a lot to be gained by analyzing his dna.

you make 'spirit' like the be-all end-all.
MrMan
QUOTE(film4reel @ Oct 25 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]3982649[/snapback]
are you 10 years old or something? there is a lot to be gained by analyzing his dna.

you make 'spirit' like the be-all end-all.



ALl he needed was above average intelligence, i think that was all he needed and the rest came from will.

You will never recreate the will and spirit! Its like trying to recreate the exact shape of a fire in the fireplace. It is gone in the flicker of an instant!

Spirit was be all and end all!
film4reel
QUOTE(MrMan @ Oct 25 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]3982870[/snapback]
ALl he needed was above average intelligence, i think that was all he needed and the rest came from will.

You will never recreate the will and spirit! Its like trying to recreate the exact shape of a fire in the fireplace. It is gone in the flicker of an instant!

Spirit was be all and end all!


if your statement is true (in bold above), then one can successfully argue GK did NOTHING amazing.
ReasonableGentleman
QUOTE(film4reel @ Oct 26 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]3983961[/snapback]
if your statement is true (in bold above), then one can successfully argue GK did NOTHING amazing.


My dear

one can successfully argue anything if your opponent is an idiot, or has not done his research. Therefore you are correct but i think it misses the mark here, child.

I think the OP and you share differing opinons of how much your genetic code contributes to your success in life.

THere was a man called Henry, a genious of a boy, pure genious, masters in Law lectured at the university however he could not even set foot into a law court due to his social ineptitude. Yes, genius he was but a social misfit.

There are many factors that determine a mans success and i would argue that a lot has to do with circumstance and sheer luck. Ghenghis Khan was a smart man but smarts alone would not enable him to achieve what he achieved. Most of it would have had to be in the personality. How much do we determine personality through genes? We go back to the nature vs nurture argument and i dont think anyone has drawn a sound conclusion as to that age old debate. Correct me if im wrong.

Men do not follow smart men. men follow men with presense. This comes from personality and soul, upbringing, education. Genetics YES it plays a part but it is only one factor. He was shrewd, smart, socially sensitive, but i believe most importantly he had a strong will. Do we learn such things from genetic code? In my opinon i dont think so, it is our spirits that pull us through life, our will, our world outlook, our determination to succeed. These matter more to a man than mere genetics, to say otherwise is to fall into the notion that our destinies for greatness are already pre-destined from birth! And i believe a man is as successful as he allows himself to be. dont fall into that NAZI blood science now.

To counter your statement i would argue if his genes determined his success, nothing he nor anyone else did/does anything amazing. It is the fact that we continually evolve and improve ourselves, to reach to forever new potentials and levels that is the nature of man, yes man and not beast. It is the fact that it is not our genes but our heart and soul that determine our success which makes everything we do, so amazing.
Suren911
I bet white supremacists are totally getting off by this thought. They've been trying to prove that Genghis Khan was a white man for a really darn long time now.
Naimani
they're wasting their time .. not the writers cos they gotto make money somehow, but the readers .. a fiction story book would be way better than a fiction history book
dully
funny how u folks blather about spirit and intelligence lol

film4reel
QUOTE(ReasonableGentleman @ Oct 26 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]3984231[/snapback]
My dear

one can successfully argue anything if your opponent is an idiot, or has not done his research. Therefore you are correct but i think it misses the mark here, child.

I think the OP and you share differing opinons of how much your genetic code contributes to your success in life.

THere was a man called Henry, a genious of a boy, pure genious, masters in Law lectured at the university however he could not even set foot into a law court due to his social ineptitude. Yes, genius he was but a social misfit.

There are many factors that determine a mans success and i would argue that a lot has to do with circumstance and sheer luck. Ghenghis Khan was a smart man but smarts alone would not enable him to achieve what he achieved. Most of it would have had to be in the personality. How much do we determine personality through genes? We go back to the nature vs nurture argument and i dont think anyone has drawn a sound conclusion as to that age old debate. Correct me if im wrong.

Men do not follow smart men. men follow men with presense. This comes from personality and soul, upbringing, education. Genetics YES it plays a part but it is only one factor. He was shrewd, smart, socially sensitive, but i believe most importantly he had a strong will. Do we learn such things from genetic code? In my opinon i dont think so, it is our spirits that pull us through life, our will, our world outlook, our determination to succeed. These matter more to a man than mere genetics, to say otherwise is to fall into the notion that our destinies for greatness are already pre-destined from birth! And i believe a man is as successful as he allows himself to be. dont fall into that NAZI blood science now.

To counter your statement i would argue if his genes determined his success, nothing he nor anyone else did/does anything amazing. It is the fact that we continually evolve and improve ourselves, to reach to forever new potentials and levels that is the nature of man, yes man and not beast. It is the fact that it is not our genes but our heart and soul that determine our success which makes everything we do, so amazing.


listen up mr. smarty-pants.

i never said genetics is the only important factor when determining success.

what i am saying is that one would need the innate genetic building blocks to achieve certain goals. in GK's case, he was a brillant orator, mathematician (his precise military strategies are rooted in mathematics, specifically geometry) and intellectual genius due to genetic coding. now, it was up to him to decide whether he was going to use these skills or not. this is where 'free will' comes in. he could have said, 'fu-k it. the chinese army have thousands of soldiers. it's hopeless.' OR he could have said, 'yes, the chinese are larger in number; however, we (mongols) can use our horseback riding skills to overcome our enemy if we position our men here, here and here. in addition, i'm going to invent psychological warfare (yes, GK did invent psychological warfare) to put terror in the hearts of the chinese.

now, surely you can see how all of that is genetic based. 'spirit' is NOT an innate talent or ability per se. instead, 'spirit' provides the perseverance and steadfastness to not quit. good example, i can have all the 'spirit' in the world to become a grammy award-winning singer but if i was not born with the ability to sing then i'm NEVER ever going to become the next whitney houston, irregardless of how much money i spend on singing lessons.

btw, "spirit" is not a good argument tool. "spirit" cannot be quantified; therefore, it's subjective. Talktohand.gif

i win. kiss.gif




baybal
Do you guys realy shure about that he has been actualy burried? May be he ordered to burry him throught Tangri ceremony?
Suboreturns
QUOTE(film4reel @ Oct 23 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]3980308[/snapback]
there were quite a few mainstream articles this week about a group of scientists in CA hoping to be the first to locate genghis khan's burial place.

i have a feeling they just might find it.
Researcher Hopes to Find Hidden Tomb of Genghis Khan Using Non-Invasive Technologies


A HUNDRED MEN DIED SACRIFICING THEMSELVES TO KEEP THE TOMB A SECRET
What's that mean? It MEANS HE DIDNT WANT HIS GRAVE F.KING UNCOVERED!

This working relation with the U.S. continues to show more of its fking color as they completely neglect us.
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