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AltanAta
They are not serious are they?

http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=ayZFhB5nGEE
AutobotTheLeader
QUOTE(AltanAta @ Oct 25 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]3982275[/snapback]
They are not serious are they?

http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=ayZFhB5nGEE



Whats a Mohe?

I dont think they could in thier right mind be serious...

If anything Korean came from Mongol
Huanglong
QUOTE(AutobotTheLeader @ Oct 25 2008, 05:34 AM) [snapback]3982280[/snapback]
Whats a Mohe?

I dont think they could in thier right mind be serious...

If anything Korean came from Mongol

靺鞨 = Mohe (Chinese) = Malgal (Korean) = Makkat (Japanese): These are believed to be the same as 勿吉 = Wuji (Chinese) = Mulgil (Korean) = Mokkit (Japanese)

Probably all of these names refer to the same tribe that was called Merged (wisemen/skillful men/good shots) by the Mongols. Some people think that they were related to the ancestors of the Jurchens and Manchus.
dully
lol, i once raninto a turk who kept insisting that gengis is turk
Suren911
^I've also met a few who claimed the same haha. They were so fervent about it too.
Optimo
Genghis khan was a Japanese?


www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Gaien/7211/kudos10/yositune.html


Almost Every Japanese believe that Genghis Khan and a Japanese Yo$hitsune were the same person.
Potatosalad
god knows what tribe he came from. there wasnt any 'korea , turkey or mongolia back then. they were migrating tribes in the altay.
Buddhalove
QUOTE(AltanAta @ Oct 25 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]3982275[/snapback]
They are not serious are they?

http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=ayZFhB5nGEE


Something new.
tujue
wow and I thought the Kazakhs where being ridicilous embarassedlaugh.gif
newdesign
The thing isn't even true. Learn how to read.
Chan-Ho
Ridiculous claim. Don't believe what you see on youtube.
mrdata0101
QUOTE(Chan-Ho @ Nov 1 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]3991253[/snapback]
Ridiculous claim. Don't believe what you see on youtube.


Yeah, true. Don't get fooled by some Youtube videos, Youtube is full of lies and madeup story.
ChinggisKhan
Chinggis Khan was from Börü-Tegin (Bozkurt) family belonging Kiyat(KAYI) tribe whose ancestors are Çöl(Sha-To) of Gok (Blue) Turks living in Uyghur Turk land.

Chinggis' ancestors immigrated to North to control Shevey-Tata-Manchu nomadic tribes.

Mother of Chinggis was Merkit Turk belonging to Oghuz Turk family.
2rqish
QUOTE(ChinggisKhan @ Nov 7 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]3998736[/snapback]
Chinggis Khan was from Börü-Tegin (Bozkurt) family belonging Kiyat(KAYI) tribe whose ancestors are Çöl(Sha-To) of Gok (Blue) Turks living in Uyghur Turk land.

Chinggis' ancestors immigrated to North to control Shevey-Tata-Manchu nomadic tribes.

Mother of Chinggis was Merkit Turk belonging to Oghuz Turk family.


Are you Turkish? Why do you claim him as Turk?

I dont know where you have these information about Turk tribes from but your point of view has nothing to do with reality thumbsdown.gif

Moreover, even if the Khan´s mother was a Turkic woman (no she wasnt!) you could not claim the Khan as Turkic. Many Ottoman rulers were born from Slavic women and a big part of Ottman army have been Slavs... does this make Ottoman Empire a Slavic Empire? Of course not, it is still Turkish as the Khan is still Mongolian.
Newscasters
Here is the connection.

In East Asian history, there is certain ethnic group that was an important part of history called Mul-gil, which was also known as Mohe to Chinese and Malgal to Koreans. Mul-gil was a part of Korean history for about 600 years, when they were an important component of Koguryo kingdom and its successor Balhae kingdom of Manchuria, making up the military and generals. Then Mul-gil disappears from East Asian history with the fall of Balhae Kingdom to Bakdu Volcanic explosion(Which is about to explode now) and Khitan invasion around 935 AD, and no one knows what happen to Mul-gil ethnic group afterward.

Many assumed that Mul-gil then became Jurchens, the ancestors of Manchus. But just as Mul-gil disappeared from East Asian history, another group appears in Mongolian history; the Merkits. Given the timing and the striking name similarity, many figure Merkits are indeed Mul-gils, and this is where "Genghis Khan is Korean" theory came from. There is a precedence for this, where Hunnos vanished by Han Dynasty of China would reappear as Huns in Europe to destroy the Roman empire 100 years later.

So were Mul-gils Koreans? The answer is no. Archeological digging has found that Mul-gils were a separate ethnic group even though they lived with Koreans and shared burial grounds.

So you can say that the ancestors of Genghis Khan may have come from an ancient Korean dynasty, they weren't necessarily Korean because Koreans were actually a minority in that kingdom, a multi-ethnic society full of Han Chinese, Koreans, Mul-Gils, Khitans, and Xianbeis lived together.
blackonwhite
Ridiculous! Genghis Khan was mongolian. It amazes me how far some korean trolls will go.
Newscasters
QUOTE (blackonwhite @ Jun 8 2010, 10:09 PM) *
Ridiculous! Genghis Khan was mongolian.

Technically a Merkit.
KraterosHellas
we should all hold autocthonous theory about ourselves like the ancient athenians, then we won't have problems of distortion and lies and shut the ultra-nationalists up once and for all.
chiuchimu
QUOTE (Optimo @ Oct 29 2008, 10:06 AM) *
Genghis khan was a Japanese?
www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Gaien/7211/kudos10/yositune.html
Almost Every Japanese believe that Genghis Khan and a Japanese Yo$hitsune were the same person.


Some idiot makes a smear video about Korea claiming Genghis Khan. So what happens? predictably a redirect post about Japan appears. I am so sick of this sh!t.

thehorsemen
Someone is always trying to redirect the blame of THEIR own claim, chiuchimu, nothing new here.
Eastern_Knight
you guys are retarded, of course Genghis khan was Korean, its well established.
merdene
OMG just what the hell. Why would people argue over obvious. He was mongolian, everyone knows it. We mongolians have no ties with you koreans. Keep dreaming
thehorsemen
Thank you.
merdene
You people can't just accept Chinggis was mongolian. Why, even if you insist on him being korean, or chinese or whatever it won't change the fact that he was mongolian.
eltonjohn
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Bard
QUOTE (dully @ Oct 25 2008, 03:00 PM) *
lol, i once raninto a turk who kept insisting that gengis is turk



QUOTE (Suren911 @ Oct 25 2008, 11:54 PM) *
^I've also met a few who claimed the same haha. They were so fervent about it too.



QUOTE (2rqish @ Nov 12 2008, 09:14 AM) *
Are you Turkish? Why do you claim him as Turk?

I dont know where you have these information about Turk tribes from but your point of view has nothing to do with reality thumbsdown.gif

Moreover, even if the Khan´s mother was a Turkic woman (no she wasnt!) you could not claim the Khan as Turkic. Many Ottoman rulers were born from Slavic women and a big part of Ottman army have been Slavs... does this make Ottoman Empire a Slavic Empire? Of course not, it is still Turkish as the Khan is still Mongolian.



Turks of Turkey know Genghis Khan (Cengiz Han) as a Turk and their historical han (leader) . After Genghis Khan there had been a Turkic tradition to show that he is a direct descendant of the Great Genghis Khan. That's because the Turkomen tribes would only abide them if they are the direct descendents of Genghis or Oghuz Khan. Just like the first ruler of the Mughal Empire Babur had stated that he is a descendent of Genghis Khan and he is known to be a Turk. All the rulers khans of great Turkic Empires follow their roots to Genghis.

According to Chinese scripts, Genghis Khan is a descendent of "Sha-to" who are known to be the descendents of Kok_Turks. He is told to be light skinned and eyed in the Chinese sources just like the other Turks are described. All the legends bind his roots to a gray-wolf (which is the legend of evolution of Turks). Only after the great victories of Genghis Khan wolf became a legendary and holy element in Mongol culture either. He is known to speak Turkish along with Mongolian just like his lower rank commanders.

In the presentday Afghanistan Genghis Khan is told to meet a kadı (a judge in religous matters in Islam) Vahided'din Fushanchi and asks him ; "The prophet Mohammed is said to have known everything yet to happen, what has he forseen about the presence of myself and my horde?" , the judge responds as; "he has ordered 'Do not touch (offend, disturb) Turks unless you are not offended by them'. Genghis Khan says " Let it be known he was a wise leader."

Another orally told story ; - An Arap had told Ogedey Khan about a dream he had that night about his father Genghis, and that he had spoken to him. Ogeday asked him in which language his father had spoken to him in his dream. He said in Arabic. Ogedai dissmissed as my father had spoken only Mongolian or Turkish.

Berthold Spuler along with some other historians assert that either.

As it is widely accepted more than half of his horde (ordu in Turkish icon_smile.gif ) was Turkic warriors.

Most likely he was mixed in origin. A rather boring family story in Central Asia. icon_smile.gif

I would humbly suggest you to watch Genghis Khan a BBC production, if you had not already.

Still in today's Turkey many of the children are named after him (Cengiz- Cengizhan). It's not a coincidence that Turks own him as a commander of their own. Would you know better? icon_smile.gif
Titanium
Not nearly as ridiculous as some stormfronters claiming that he was a White Nordic.

Speaking of the topic, I remember CBS made a movie about Marco Polo and the guy that played Kublai was BRIAN DENNEHY! That old dirty cop from Rambo. REALLY????? WOW!
Cha
There is something I need to tell you in response to this thread: Ghengis Khan was Korean?????
I wouldn't worry about that article. First of all, that newspaper is a Korean-American newspaper (which I've never seen before). The claim on Ghengis Khan was never mentioneed in Korea. Koreans believe that most of their ancestors were from Manchuria, Siberia, and Mongolia. Koreans will wonder what you're talking about if you talk about that article.
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