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emmthreejonny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzreaAsq5V8
AlfonsoCastro
very good video. Puts all that is bad with commies in a nutshell. They should be shown to schools, people seem to forget about history.

What really angers me are those a-holes who wear t-shirts that have that mass-murderer in front. Yes Che Guevara.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara#Legacy
http://www.therealcuba.com/MurderedbyChe.htm








commie a-holes, all a waste of oxygen.
iMumble
Ah, fu-k Capitalism. I'm tired of it already. Communism is fu-ked up and didn't work. Mixed economies for the win!
orient
QUOTE(iMumble @ Nov 14 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]4008686[/snapback]
Ah, fu-k Capitalism. I'm tired of it already. Communism is fu-ked up and didn't work. Mixed economies for the win!



Yup. Example, China realized that communism alone wouldn't work so they also embraced capitalism. They improved a lot since the cultural revolution disaster.


salamat
maybe the Philippines should be socialists like Canada
orient
The Philippines should get rid of all NPA rebels. They're nothing but thieves. (Should also include those Muslim terrorists and secessionists) icon_twisted.gif

Freeing Joma Sison after the first people power revolution was a big mistake.

Suzuka00
QUOTE(orient @ Nov 14 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]4009103[/snapback]
The Philippines should get rid of all NPA rebels. They're nothing but thieves. (Should also include those Muslim terrorists and secessionists) icon_twisted.gif

Freeing Joma Sison after the first people power revolution was a big mistake.

well,defeating the illuminati is the only solution.
tamang hinala
stupid Cory Aquino freed all those communists who are jailed under Marcos regime...

if i were the president, i would imprison those leaders of party-lists like Liza Masa (i dunno the spelling) and other militants.. they just cause nothing but traffic jams. They don't realize that rallies are often ignored these days...
iMumble
QUOTE(orient @ Nov 14 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]4009028[/snapback]
Yup. Example, China realized that communism alone wouldn't work so they also embraced capitalism. They improved a lot since the cultural revolution disaster.

Yeah, they have. Then again, people in China still can't speak out against their gov't.

Then again Capitalism is the main reason why they'res ghettos and trailer parks, it creates a large income inequality.

QUOTE(salamat @ Nov 14 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]4009045[/snapback]
maybe the Philippines should be socialists like Canada


SO TRUE.
AlfonsoCastro
socialism? You mean like a nanny state? I do wonder if the gov't can handle the cost or it will resort to increase taxes.


And Capitalism is BAD WHEN IT IS USED IN EXCESS. Rather use it in moderation.
iMumble
QUOTE(AlfonsoCastro @ Nov 15 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]4009600[/snapback]
socialism? You mean like a nanny state? I do wonder if the gov't can handle the cost or it will resort to increase taxes.
And Capitalism is BAD WHEN IT IS USED IN EXCESS. Rather use it in moderation.


Nanny states are good, it's the model of our society to have one.

Capitalism is already being used in excess, using it in moderation NEVER WORKS.
Suzuka00
we are tricked by illuminati by using divide and conquer

both the "communists" and the government are puppets of illuminati.
VanityKills
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ Nov 23 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]4020600[/snapback]
we are tricked by illuminati by using divide and conquer

both the "communists" and the government are puppets of illuminati.


you read angels and demons too right man!? the best book from dan brown in my point of view!
salamat
the reasoning for the creation of NPA is noble...but their actions are not...too bad

Socialism would be the best thing for the Philippines
VanityKills
QUOTE(salamat @ Nov 23 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]4021316[/snapback]
the reasoning for the creation of NPA is noble...but their actions are not...too bad

Socialism would be the best thing for the Philippines


wrong actions for the right reasons!
AlfonsoCastro
Sociaism? Sure it looks good with the whole caring for the common cause thing/niversal healthcare, BUT everything comes at a price, TAXES, I mean hell look at those European countries, them taxes re hiiiiiiiiiigh, can even the common folk here afford that?

Have you ever read of Libertarianism? Its kinda like a middle way between socialism and the good points of capitalism
VanityKills
^

never heard of that!
Piso
dictatorship! with a very competent dictator, the phils is filled with abusive psuedo freedom mongers, the media, those activists those no discipline jay walkers! somebody should rule with an iron fist to put everything in order, once everybody is in line then we can come back to democracy...

the phils is just so outta control with "freedom" right now that it wont work. democracy isnt for everybody,imagine you let a kid do everything he wants and youre an incompetent mum, that will lead to worldwide catastrophe
iMumble
QUOTE(Piso @ Nov 24 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]4022444[/snapback]
dictatorship! with a very competent dictator, the phils is filled with abusive psuedo freedom mongers, the media, those activists those no discipline jay walkers! somebody should rule with an iron fist to put everything in order, once everybody is in line then we can come back to democracy...


That didn't work out with Marcos, who was the Filipino version of Kim Jong-Il.
Piso
he wasnt competent plus he abused his powers. true, he built things like nuclear powerplants and rockets, but he left the rest of the philippines in the dust.

keyword here is competent, which is the opposite of fpj lol
VanityKills
QUOTE(Piso @ Nov 24 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]4022531[/snapback]
he wasnt competent plus he abused his powers. true, he built things like nuclear powerplants and rockets, but he left the rest of the philippines in the dust.

keyword here is competent, which is the opposite of fpj lol


there were certain rumors that when marcos was the president and the Phils was under martial law, it was really Imelda who was controlling everything... and that Ferdinand was just a plain puppet and his strings are controlled by Imelda
iMumble
Yeah....same thing with Bush with Cheney here in the USA.

My mom and dad were in college during much of his reign, they said that you cannot go into a store, restaurant, or street corner without seeing his presidential picture.
NeoVxR
plz allow me to warn you from HATRED of "communism".
you may hate Stalin and all the murderers.

better take a look at a loose bundle of theories, that remained from the uber-marxist experiences.
these ideas basically are more important than ever.
capitalism has proved that the human nature is not mature nor educated enough to handle it.
after some time all "checks and balances" will be defused and molten.
look at the already starting super-crisis. it comes from a lack of "morals" that the neoliberals would call freedom of "subjectivism".
on the other side, one of the worst mistakes of marxists was their strict atheism. the human world does not work like that. we are greedy, steal, and then we pray and want to apologize.
however, a governmental system has to be 100% secular.

now suddelny they (G20 sessions) want to install kind of an economic world government to enact total control of enterprises and financial transactions.
how much does it help when it is not the "state" that takes control?
is it any better if a few ivory-tower think tank organizations are invited to seize that omnipotent function? they even don't have the slightst duty to behave in a "democratic" way.
they would create a "planned economy" where the big fish can control the small ones worse than ever before.
the same persons again will rotate around all these seats.
read the wording by Frau Merkel of Germany!

the physical problem of the soviet marxists was that they wanted to plan everything, while they had no computers and no modern means of communication and surveillance.
let me warn you that the name of the system does not matter when the tools are already in place.

please be very happy that the Philippines are that "chaotic" because eventually that is the strongest force against fascism.
just continue working on the grassroots cooperation, and spread the news that justice makes a country strong because the citizens will stand by it. hold your knives not only on the necks of your presidents but also on the local chiefs. but let them do some serious work.

I ask you, don't believe western interpretations of what is going on in bolivia and venezuela, and some other latin countries.
among various nasty and cruel side-effects these brothers are re-taking control of the country of their ancestors, and are trying to throw away the crucial impacts of colonialism. I am way sure they will oust their presidents when they go too far.
I think it is much better to learn from their mistakes as well as achievements, and exchange know-how and culture.
just watch the literacy almost at possible maximum.
the middle class anti-communistas - say opposition - there are most time the suns of the conquistadores. they cannot continue the way they used to.
I feel for them and hope for them, for a peaceful solution.

canadian model of governance - quite a good idea!
I am against fundamentalism. it is required to know the basics very well, but they must not become a prison.
VanityKills
QUOTE(iMumble @ Nov 25 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]4023460[/snapback]
Yeah....same thing with Bush with Cheney here in the USA.

My mom and dad were in college during much of his reign, they said that you cannot go into a store, restaurant, or street corner without seeing his presidential picture.


talk about being obsessed with getting attention! heehee
iMumble
QUOTE(VanityKills @ Nov 26 2008, 05:27 AM) [snapback]4024380[/snapback]
talk about being obsessed with getting attention! heehee


It's called a personality cult. When a political leader is an attention whore.

Good examples would be Kim-Il-Sung of North Korea and Adolf Hitler of Nazi Germany.
AlfonsoCastro
Saddam Hussein, Mao, Putin, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez.........................all but 2 of the names I mentioned are dead.

Oh be sure to check out the nutcase president of Turkmenistan, the guy NAMED THE MONTHS AFTER HIS FAMILY RELATIVES.
iMumble
QUOTE(AlfonsoCastro @ Nov 28 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]4026881[/snapback]
Saddam Hussein, Mao, Putin, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez.........................all but 2 of the names I mentioned are dead.

Oh be sure to check out the nutcase president of Turkmenistan, the guy NAMED THE MONTHS AFTER HIS FAMILY RELATIVES.


I've heard of that on the History Channel last week. LOL.

I've heard people criticizing Obama for making one. Well that I can justify. If you have a very unpopular President, and the popular candidate was the opposing party, what do you think might happen?
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