ninet
Sep 20 2004, 10:42 AM
I'm kind of confused. I don't see many Filipinos in my part of the country. The ones I've seen in person look more Asian but the ones on TV look more Hispanic. Is this just part of the Hispanic craze and the increase in their population here? Filipinos are really attractive tho.
chynagongju
Sep 20 2004, 10:42 AM
Moving to Phillipines chat.
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 10:46 AM
QUOTE (ninet @ Sep 20 2004, 11:42 AM)
I'm kind of confused. I don't see many Filipinos in my part of the country. The ones I've seen in person look more Asian but the ones on TV look more Hispanic. Is this just part of the Hispanic craze and the increase in their population here? Filipinos are really attractive tho.
We look more asian. See the girl on my sig. she's filipina.
ninet
Sep 20 2004, 10:51 AM
Actually her picture was what prompted me to ask the question. She looks Hispanic to me. lol
In any case she's beautiful.
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 10:55 AM
QUOTE (ninet @ Sep 20 2004, 11:51 AM)
Actually her picture was what prompted me to ask the question. She looks Hispanic to me. lol
In any case she's beautiful.
Here is another pic. of her does she look hispanic to you now.

Here is another pic. she's the one on the far left


By the way what do you happen to be?
What country do you come from?
User1
Sep 20 2004, 11:00 AM
QUOTE (ninet @ Sep 20 2004, 11:42 AM)
I'm kind of confused. I don't see many Filipinos in my part of the country. The ones I've seen in person look more Asian but the ones on TV look more Hispanic. Is this just part of the Hispanic craze and the increase in their population here? Filipinos are really attractive tho.

Bravo to you for forming your ideas through TV programs.
First_Born
Sep 20 2004, 11:07 AM
LOL @ user1. Tia Carrera looks mad asian. Does anyone know if she is 100% or mixed??
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (First_Born @ Sep 20 2004, 12:07 PM)
LOL @ user1. Tia Carrera looks mad asian. Does anyone know if she is 100% or mixed??
She's an sell out, she goes around saying that her ethnicity is hawaiian.
User1
Sep 20 2004, 11:09 AM
QUOTE (First_Born @ Sep 20 2004, 12:07 PM)
LOL @ user1. Tia Carrera looks mad asian. Does anyone know if she is 100% or mixed??
She's a Portuguese or Spanish, Pinay, and Chinese mix.
Hawaiian

...That's what many of those Asian celebrities say...Sounds better because of tropical beauty stereotype. Real 100% Hawaiian women are usually big, fat, dark, and rough-looking.
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 11:26 AM
QUOTE (User1 @ Sep 20 2004, 12:09 PM)
QUOTE (First_Born @ Sep 20 2004, 12:07 PM)
LOL @ user1. Tia Carrera looks mad asian. Does anyone know if she is 100% or mixed??
She's a Portuguese or Spanish, Pinay, and Chinese mix.
Hawaiian

...That's what many of those Asian celebrities say...Sounds better because of tropical beauty stereotype. Real 100% Hawaiian women are usually big, fat, dark, and rough-looking.
LOL thats harsh, I thought that was the definiton of an samoan.
User1
Sep 20 2004, 11:31 AM
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Sep 20 2004, 12:26 PM)
QUOTE (User1 @ Sep 20 2004, 12:09 PM)
QUOTE (First_Born @ Sep 20 2004, 12:07 PM)
LOL @ user1. Tia Carrera looks mad asian. Does anyone know if she is 100% or mixed??
She's a Portuguese or Spanish, Pinay, and Chinese mix.
Hawaiian

...That's what many of those Asian celebrities say...Sounds better because of tropical beauty stereotype. Real 100% Hawaiian women are usually big, fat, dark, and rough-looking.
LOL thats harsh, I thought that was the definiton of an samoan.
Even most Hawaiian "natives" are heavily. They were swamped by Japanese, Chinese, and Filipino migrant workers in the 1800s-1900s...Why don't you go see for yourself what pure Hawaiian ladies are like and see if the stereotype holds water. I'm not being harsh but truful.
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 11:35 AM
QUOTE (User1 @ Sep 20 2004, 12:31 PM)
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Sep 20 2004, 12:26 PM)
QUOTE (User1 @ Sep 20 2004, 12:09 PM)
QUOTE (First_Born @ Sep 20 2004, 12:07 PM)
LOL @ user1. Tia Carrera looks mad asian. Does anyone know if she is 100% or mixed??
She's a Portuguese or Spanish, Pinay, and Chinese mix.
Hawaiian

...That's what many of those Asian celebrities say...Sounds better because of tropical beauty stereotype. Real 100% Hawaiian women are usually big, fat, dark, and rough-looking.
LOL thats harsh, I thought that was the definiton of an samoan.
Even most Hawaiian "natives" are heavily. They were swamped by Japanese, Chinese, and Filipino migrant workers in the 1800s-1900s...Why don't you go see for yourself what pure Hawaiian ladies are like and see if the stereotype holds water. I'm not being harsh but truful.
I remember an hawaiian guy got into the Sumo wrestling in Japan.
Do you believe all Pacific islanders are like that. You do know Dalawapo is half pacific islander, so I guess his claims of pacific islanders being prettier then asians hold no truth.
HutFlip
Sep 20 2004, 12:35 PM
Damn, we got this question a lot don't we?
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 12:36 PM
QUOTE (HutFlip @ Sep 20 2004, 01:35 PM)
Damn, we got this question a lot don't we?

Yeah, its like people think were not asian or something.
tsinooy1
Sep 20 2004, 12:47 PM
that girl actually look slike my older brothers previous vietnamese girlfriend. As far as movie stars, yup some look totally mixed. The general populous of filipinos look asian but some movie stars look mixed. Its probably cuz they think if your mixed you look more pretty???? I dont knowhehehe
BatangDamo
Sep 20 2004, 12:48 PM
Even though we dont speak spanish and we have spanish names, we are still as asian as Taiwan on our north and Indonesia to our south.
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 12:51 PM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 20 2004, 01:47 PM)
that girl actually look slike my older brothers previous vietnamese girlfriend. As far as movie stars, yup some look totally mixed. The general populous of filipinos look asian but some movie stars look mixed. Its probably cuz they think if your mixed you look more pretty???? I dont knowhehehe
Who ya talking about?
tsinooy1
Sep 20 2004, 12:52 PM
very true, The main reason why many have spanish and portuguese last names is becuz of Claverias Decree in the Mid 1800s that required most filipinos to change their pagan names hence some families have the same last name but may not even be related.
I was talking about ,maxene on your sig hehehe

heres heart evangelista filipina actress
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 20 2004, 01:52 PM)
very true, The main reason why many have spanish and portuguese last names is becuz of Claverias Decree in the Mid 1800s that required most filipinos to change their pagan names hence some families have the same last name but may not even be related.

heres heart evangelista filipina actress
What is Heart's percentage of filipino blood?
tsinooy1
Sep 20 2004, 12:55 PM
I dont know. Does she have spanish blood? ehehehehe
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 20 2004, 01:55 PM)
I dont know. Does she have spanish blood? ehehehehe
Who Heart, no I heard she was part chinese or something.
Lets take an poll, who do you think is prettier Heart or Maxene?
Maxene gets my vote
tsinooy1
Sep 20 2004, 12:59 PM
oh yeah, I heard something about that. Like aga muhlach, he's chinese meztiso. His fathers side or something so he got married at Binondo church or something..I . not sure hehehe
MMMMMM, MAxene hehe actually they both are hehehe but maxene looks pretty
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 01:01 PM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 20 2004, 01:59 PM)
oh yeah, I heard something about that. Like aga muhlach, he's chinese meztiso. His fathers side or something so he got married at Binondo church or something..I . not sure hehehe
Really I thought Aga was part Alien?
Anyway what do you think Maxene is?
tsinooy1
Sep 20 2004, 01:03 PM
ahahahahaha alien ahahaha, funny, maxene, she kinda looks japanese??? She also looks like this Vietnamese girls on the Movie called "Indochine" french movie about the vietnamese and french.....
do you know what she is?
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 20 2004, 02:03 PM)
ahahahahaha alien ahahaha, funny, maxene, she kinda looks japanese??? She also looks like this Vietnamese girls on the Movie called "Indochine" french movie about the vietnamese and french.....
do you know what she is?
She's filipina malay, but I heard that she might have gotten some spanish from an ancestor from her mother's side.\
Anyway Im going to make an who's more beautiful thread between Heart and Maxene.
tsinooy1
Sep 20 2004, 01:09 PM
ahhhh okay... our family has no spanish ancestry, only malay from bothe sides, my paternal great impo was chinese, my maternal grandmother is chinese with her husband being half chinese..hehehe Some of my lolas and aunts speak in chinese once in a while but hardly understand. Tagalog nalang at english hehehe
How about other movie stars??? some could have other ancestry beside spanish I'm sure...I dont know hehehe
Fil-Am
Sep 20 2004, 01:16 PM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 20 2004, 02:09 PM)
ahhhh okay... our family has no spanish ancestry, only malay from bothe sides, my paternal great impo was chinese, my maternal grandmother is chinese with her husband being half chinese..hehehe Some of my lolas and aunts speak in chinese once in a while but hardly understand. Tagalog nalang at english hehehe
How about other movie stars??? some could have other ancestry beside spanish I'm sure...I dont know hehehe
Donita Rose is half white(American) half filipino
Maui Taylor is half white(British) half filipino
dalawapo
Sep 20 2004, 02:34 PM
tsinooy1
Sep 20 2004, 03:46 PM
I agree with what you posted in that link dalawapo, but they always pic mestizo looking people for the movies which kinda sucks but since the percentage of mixed filipinos is soo small they think mestizos are the ultimate beauties which is dumb I think...but hey what can we do
Shinigami
Sep 20 2004, 10:16 PM
for those peeps that lives outside of cali, are filipinos got their own box when your filling out them school surveys or administration forms? cuz i a lot of fools here believes or claims that they are pacific islanders and not asian. just curious
dalawapo
Sep 20 2004, 10:26 PM
filipinos are lingustically and culturally synonymous with pacific islanders. (because pacific islanders came from us)
filipinos are phsyiucally synonymous with mainland asians, because we are part of the mongoliod race.
tsinooy1
Sep 21 2004, 02:36 PM
On every job application Ive had and the recent college applications I had, there was a box tat said "asian/pacific islander". Ive never seen filipino as some separate. Is their such a thing?
dalawapo
Sep 21 2004, 02:46 PM
i never seen the seperated filipino box either..... and shoulldnt the applications be standard in america? yes, they are supposed to be... i think the filipino box is a rumor that doesnt exist at all. and if it does, it was an applications of the 1900's....
Fil-Am
Sep 21 2004, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 21 2004, 03:36 PM)
On every job application Ive had and the recent college applications I had, there was a box tat said "asian/pacific islander". Ive never seen filipino as some separate. Is their such a thing?
There is such an thing. When I took an test here in Norfolk, Virginia they asked for ethnicity. And filipino was seperate from asian/pacific islander.
User1
Sep 21 2004, 04:08 PM
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Sep 21 2004, 04:44 PM)
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 21 2004, 03:36 PM)
On every job application Ive had and the recent college applications I had, there was a box tat said "asian/pacific islander". Ive never seen filipino as some separate. Is their such a thing?
There is such an thing. When I took an test here in Norfolk, Virginia they asked for ethnicity. And filipino was seperate from asian/pacific islander.
There is a separate category, as I understand it, because it was requested by Filipinos. I get the feeling that you guys are more Asian in mentality now but before, SOME of you guys wanted to be identified as Hispanic or atleast a separate category.
dalawapo
Sep 21 2004, 04:16 PM
what do u consider Indonesians and Malaysians? they are the same as us Filipinos. they practice islam, not the stereotypically "asian" buddhist religion, u are idiots.
Asia is a geographical term only, asia is the most diverse continent in the world, with all religions and alll cultures practiced, and all races are found. SO THERE IS NO UNIFORM ASIAN WAY..... u guys make me sick i will kill u. bye

filipinos are mongoliod. change this topic now t0o, "Are filipinos mongoliod?"!
User1
Sep 21 2004, 04:22 PM
You have emotional problems dala.
tsinooy1
Sep 21 2004, 04:36 PM
Mmmmm, starnge, still never scene it. But why would anyone waste their time doing that anyways. Filipinos are Malays and small percentage of foriegners living on Islands called Philippines so they are called filipinos....
If this was the case, Indonesians should have their own catagory since they were under dutch colonial rule for so long (1511-1800) if not under influence and their east islands like flores and other ones near were under portuguese rule. Plus their language is as mixed with arab and dutch words as filipinos is with chinese and spanish loan words. which is not that significant...
But oh well, what can I do...hehehehe
Mulawin
Sep 22 2004, 01:06 AM
QUOTE (User1 @ Sep 20 2004, 12:09 PM)
QUOTE (First_Born @ Sep 20 2004, 12:07 PM)
LOL @ user1. Tia Carrera looks mad asian. Does anyone know if she is 100% or mixed??
She's a Portuguese or Spanish, Pinay, and Chinese mix.
Hawaiian

...That's what many of those Asian celebrities say...Sounds better because of tropical beauty stereotype. Real 100% Hawaiian women are usually big, fat, dark, and rough-looking.
Shes full filipino! LEt me just correct that she is malay, spanish chinses mix but shes full filipino...Filipino hawaiians tend to make Filipino as a race..Would you beleive Camille Velasco claiming to be only half-filipino because she's 1/4 irsh and 1/4 spanish...puh-leeze! im 75% mixed spanish-european, 20% chinese and a meager 5% malay..that doesnt make me 5% filipino only! my parents were native to the philippines..both parents of camille velasco and tia carrere were native to the philippines.
Mulawin
Sep 22 2004, 01:10 AM
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Sep 20 2004, 02:05 PM)
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 20 2004, 02:03 PM)
ahahahahaha alien ahahaha, funny, maxene, she kinda looks japanese??? She also looks like this Vietnamese girls on the Movie called "Indochine" french movie about the vietnamese and french.....
do you know what she is?
She's filipina malay, but I heard that she might have gotten some spanish from an ancestor from her mother's side.\
Anyway Im going to make an who's more beautiful thread between Heart and Maxene.

i dont think MAxene is filipina malay..maybe she got the blood but i think the chinse blood dominates her..her father Francis M (former mtv vj) has chinese and spanish (and malay of course) and her mother is a spanish mestiza.
Mulawin
Sep 22 2004, 01:15 AM
Filipinos are predomanantly asian-pacific by blood but essentially hispanic in culture.
So f somebody ask you if Filipinos are:
A. Asian
B. Pacific Islander
C. Hispanic
The answer is all of the above. Asian because we are part of the Asian region, Pacific islander because our race is the same with the Malay-polynesians and Hispanic because we share the cultural affinity and blood influence of Spain.
Shinigami
Sep 22 2004, 01:50 AM
QUOTE (Mulawin @ Sep 22 2004, 02:15 AM)
Filipinos are predomanantly asian-pacific by blood but essentially hispanic in culture.
So f somebody ask you if Filipinos are:
A. Asian
B. Pacific Islander
C. Hispanic
The answer is all of the above. Asian because we are part of the Asian region, Pacific islander because our race is the same with the Malay-polynesians and Hispanic because we share the cultural affinity and blood influence of Spain.
BULLSH!T!!!
Asain = yes
Pacific Islander = why not
Hispanic = no
you can't put hispanic in that group cuz hispanics are mexican, which are basically south american natives/mayans/aztec (or wutever you want to call the people who inhabited that part of the continent) who got raped by the spaniards
Mulawin
Sep 22 2004, 01:56 AM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 20 2004, 01:59 PM)
oh yeah, I heard something about that. Like aga muhlach, he's chinese meztiso. His fathers side or something so he got married at Binondo church or something..I . not sure hehehe
MMMMMM, MAxene hehe actually they both are hehehe but maxene looks pretty
Im most definitely sure Aga muhlach is a spanish-descended filipino.
Mulawin
Sep 22 2004, 01:59 AM
QUOTE (Shinigami @ Sep 22 2004, 02:50 AM)
QUOTE (Mulawin @ Sep 22 2004, 02:15 AM)
Filipinos are predomanantly asian-pacific by blood but essentially hispanic in culture.
So f somebody ask you if Filipinos are:
A. Asian
B. Pacific Islander
C. Hispanic
The answer is all of the above. Asian because we are part of the Asian region, Pacific islander because our race is the same with the Malay-polynesians and Hispanic because we share the cultural affinity and blood influence of Spain.
BULLSH!T!!!
Asain = yes
Pacific Islander = why not
Hispanic = no
you can't put hispanic in that group cuz hispanics are mexican, which are basically south american natives/mayans/aztec (or wutever you want to call the people who inhabited that part of the continent) who got raped by the spaniards
And who told you so?
Spain and Latin America is recognizing the Hispanic afiinity with the Filipinos..Many Spaniard also came here in the Philippines and inter-bred, though not as much as those in the New world.
Shinigami
Sep 22 2004, 02:16 AM
hmmm, just looked it up, guess you're right, i still say no to the spanish part tho
read the link for reasons, too lazy to type
wordiq.com
tsinooy1
Sep 22 2004, 02:17 AM
so will that type of situation make south-easern indonesian islands like flores an surrounding islands a portuguese people? Since many of them in that area have portuguese, spanish, and dutch last names? The main religion in tha area is catholic ove muslim =, but just in that area, especially flores island.
Many chose to change their names bacause of the colonial mentality that westerners are superior therefore I must conform like many filipinos did with their names by choosingsurnames from a book cuz of claverias decree. Not even a huge population are mixed SPANISH. Its impossible, cuz when the americans arrived, ethnic spainerds numbered 30,000 estimation in records and most were concentrated in manila and other lowlands mostly based on luzon. Almost all were men.
Just like the dutche presence in Indonesia for almost 3oo years. O r the French in vietnam, laos, and cambodia. And the Portugues In Macau which currently, all their street names are portuguese.
now these situations dont make these people europeans figuratively speaking.
I dont consider myself hispanic. Nothing wrong with being a hispanic.
dalawapo
Sep 22 2004, 02:19 AM
u can say filipinos are asians (geographically, the islands are in the ISLAND SOUTHEAST ASIAN region) and pacific islander (culturally/lingustically, all native philippine languages are part of the Austronesian language family along with all the pacific islanders' languages), but u can not say all filipinos are hispanic. the philippines is a multi-cultural/religious nation, there are indigenous filipinos and muslim filipinos, if you tell them they are "hispanic" by culture or religion, they will disagree with you and maybe even feel offended as their ancestors were the ones who fought the spaniards and remained unconquerable.
the philippines needs to be secular nation, that does not say we are prodominately christian because that is not reprsenting or showing equality to the indigenous and muslims.
we can say the philippines is prodominately ethnically malayan tho, because all natives of the islands are malayan stock!
tsinooy1
Sep 22 2004, 02:23 AM
thats right, I agree with dalawapo. You dont see spanish people wearing wrap around skirts we call malongs or dancing the singkil or speaking any of our malayan dialects. You dont see hispanics playing kulintang gong music accompanied by dancers wearing sparkling costumes dancing the pangalay fake fingernal dance or the mangalay dance. Or speaking the uncurrputed dialects. nor do you see them performing Rajah Mangandiri, Our maranao Version of the hindu epic Ramayana.
Aga muhlach is one of the few Real Spanish and CHinese mestizo. He even got married in Binondo Churh, the chinatown church
Mulawin
Sep 22 2004, 02:31 AM
QUOTE (tsinooy1 @ Sep 22 2004, 03:17 AM)
so will that type of situation make south-easern indonesian islands like flores an surrounding islands a portuguese people? Since many of them in that area have portuguese, spanish, and dutch last names? The main religion in tha area is catholic ove muslim =, but just in that area, especially flores island.
Many chose to change their names bacause of the colonial mentality that westerners are superior therefore I must conform like many filipinos did with their names by choosingsurnames from a book cuz of claverias decree. Not even a huge population are mixed SPANISH. Its impossible, cuz when the americans arrived, ethnic spainerds numbered 30,000 estimation in records and most were concentrated in manila and other lowlands mostly based on luzon. Almost all were men.
Just like the dutche presence in Indonesia for almost 3oo years. O r the French in vietnam, laos, and cambodia. And the Portugues In Macau which currently, all their street names are portuguese.
I took spanish class in High school, our teahcer mentioned about cpanish colonial times. She even showd us a map of all hispanic counties. Philippines was not one of them.
I dont think so, since their culture were never penetrated by portuguese or french like the Philippines is which is hispanic.. Hispanic means "originated or derived from Spain regardless of race"..which is why many of our language has some spanish into it, which is why we are the only catholic country in asia, which is why our naional dress and dances are heavily inspred by ibero-Western rather than oriental, which is whywe are ridiculed in asia for being "westernized Asian",which is why our food is heavily tasted like iberian food, which is why i am filipino even though i looked like a pale latino, the list goes on and on. The differenc between the dutch and the spanish colonials is that marrying a native is quite accpeted in the spanish society but marrying a native is not accpeted in the dutch society or american society for that matter during those times.
Census bureau of 1900's recorded that about 1% are european and spanish mestizo combined thats because during 1896 philippine independence many spaniards went to Spain and latin america together with their filipino families..while others decided to stay here since their natural inclination is in the philippines. Plus during the spanish times, any mestizo who could not passed for "white" is still considered as an Indio, and a 1/4 spanish Filipino is also not considered as mestizo but Indio. Hence, the meager percent of the census.
Click the link:
6. Are Filipinos Hispanic?
Mulawin
Sep 22 2004, 02:41 AM
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Sep 22 2004, 03:19 AM)
u can say filipinos are asians (geographically, the islands are in the ISLAND SOUTHEAST ASIAN region) and pacific islander (culturally/lingustically, all native philippine languages are part of the Austronesian language family along with all the pacific islanders' languages), but u can not say all filipinos are hispanic. the philippines is a multi-cultural/religious nation, there are indigenous filipinos and muslim filipinos, if you tell them they are "hispanic" by culture or religion, they will disagree with you and maybe even feel offended as their ancestors were the ones who fought the spaniards and remained unconquerable.
the philippines needs to be secular nation, that does not say we are prodominately christian because that is not reprsenting or showing equality to the indigenous and muslims.
we can say the philippines is prodominately ethnically malayan tho, because all natives of the islands are malayan stock!
True true, but generally Filipinos are "essentially" hispanic in terms of national culture. And not only the regional ones.
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