From what i heard on bbc world news the other day, they mention some information that caught my attention. They says that the yellow shirt supporter seem to look down and discriminate against red shirt supporter, and that red shirt people shouldn't even be allow to vote at all. For those who doesn't really follow the news, the yellow shirt thai supporter are back up by wealthy thai and thai rich folks to fuel the conflicts while the red shirt thai, they are mostly normal and pool citizens of thailand. its a pure discrimination and yellow shirt thai seem to be a sore loser i personally feel. if you happen to catch the news on tv, the water bottle that the yellow shirt thai use and drink out of , is actually given out by the wealthy and rich thai that support the pad.

one other thing i wonder is why the hell are the yellow shirt thai always set up a stage and always seem smiling like they are having a concert or something when they do the protest?

Either red or yellow both of them are Thai (fruit)

Mmmm, I love those Thai watermelon, they are the best. Very sweet.

i like watermelon too , we have somethings in common

I like double D, but very few thai women have double D? I mean melons, no no, i mean breast

hey what u guy talking about?

Anyone looking at these two pictures carefully? it appears that Yellow banana is stumping on the Red Khmer Melon....what the picture saying is Yellow is better..

how do you see that , this topic is about thai maniac. yes i know thai look down on khmer and other ethnic too, but we don't give a fu-k about thai opinion. thailand is more like khmerland and bangkok is more like bungkok.

so Aeroforce1 is a PAD then,

yellow shirts are loser man, the red going to beat the yellow, watch and see

Wasn't bungkok mean fishing pond or lake in Khmer?

Bung= Lake,pond, and swump
Kok= Hook, or to Catch

u got the bung right but kok is a name of a long grass that khmer people call, we still use these grass till today.

Bung Kok mean papyrus ponds or lakes.

I heard the story about in the last 1000 yrs + the area that was Bangkok and Central Thai was a swamp ,then after the big Tsunami hit the sand and soil from the sea made up to be the land of Central Thai. We still find the sea animal fossil in the Pathumtanee province which is on north side of Bangkok


May be that s why ancient Cambodian Called called this area lake.

How do call watches in Thai language Mr Aero?

becareful, don't trust thai too much

Congrats to the Yellow terrorists for achieving their goal with the help from the army and the court to dissolve the PPP. Now it's the oppportunity for PAD and the democrats to change the constitution so that majority of politicians will be appointed.

^
Reason or your assumption?
Why these Parties been dissolved? Do u want to know or just ignore the reason and made your own assumption?

http://countrystudies.us/thailand/52.htm

In general, the Thai accorded high status to those who wielded power, and the prestige accorded the highest bureaucrats was consistent with a historical pattern, even if in modern times these bureaucrats were rarely members of the royal family. Whether the position of the military was fully legitimated in the eyes of most Thai was uncertain. The military was given deference, but it was not clear that its members were freely accorded esteem.

Below the military and bureaucratic elites were those in high government posts who performed the tasks requiring considerable knowledge, technical competence, or simply experience in the ways of bureaucracy. Like the bureaucratic elites, these upper middlelevel bureaucrats were well educated, often holding undergraduate or graduate degrees from foreign universities. From the point of view of the Thai, such officeholders had much prestige even if they were not the primary wielders of power.

Positions at the highest levels of the military and the bureaucracy brought very good incomes to those holding them. Often these positions provided access to other sources of income, including large landholdings and other real estate, or participation in the actual ownership of businesses, often in conjunction with Chinese businessmen. With some exceptions, the latter exercised day-to-day control of financial, commercial, and industrial organizations and institutions.

The social status of the Chinese economic elite was not clear. After World War II, a limited number of Chinese business families, who had begun as middlemen financing aspects of agricultural production and marketing, became bankers and industrial and commercial entrepreneurs. These families had considerable economic power, and they clearly influenced some political decisions through the Thai military and bureaucrats with whom they had connections. Whether the Thai in general granted them the prestige ordinarily given to those holding high posts in government was another matter.

These Chinese businessmen should be distinguished from the many Thai in the military and the civil bureaucracy who had Chinese ancestry. In many cases, this Chinese ancestry was several generations removed. In any case, such individuals were considered Thai, operated chiefly in a Thai social and cultural milieu, and were evaluated on the same social scale as other Thai.

Until the 1970s, persons who were fully Chinese entered the bureaucracy only at the middle levels or, if higher, as technical staff. This was in part a matter of Thai policy, in part a matter of Chinese orientation. The Chinese were not indifferent to political power or administrative skill as desirable qualities or as sources of prestige, but they adapted to the limits imposed by their minority status. Within the Chinese community there was a hierarchy of political influence, and there were organizations (ranging from chambers of commerce to community groups and mutual aid societies) in which Chinese had the opportunity to exercise their power and skills. Even there, however, political power and prestige flowed to those who had been successful as entrepreneurs, whereas among the Thai, achievement in the military or the bureaucracy preceded access to significant economic opportunities or resources. Chinese in the economic elite who moved into important positions in Chinese-centered organizations or, occasionally, other organizations, not only gained prestige within the Chinese community but also became the links between that community and Thai elites, particularly with respect to the establishment of economic ties.

By the early 1970s, significant numbers of Chinese had been admitted to the higher bureaucracy. According to one analyst, they held roughly 30 percent of the posts in the special grades (upper ranks) at that time. Presumably they were the sons and daughters of wealthy entrepreneurs and had acquired the higher education necessary for admission to the bureaucracy's upper ranks.

Below the hereditary nobility and the ruling class was a socially and occupationally heterogeneous middle class that emerged in the years after World War II, especially after 1960. Its members were diverse with respect to their control over wealth, their social status, and their access to power. The simplest distinction within this amorphous category was based partially on income and partially on occupation, but subcategories thus drawn were rather mixed. The wealthier segment of this middle class (for convenience, the upper middle class) consisted of bureaucrats and military men at middle levels (including higher provincial officials), salaried administrative and managerial workers in private enterprise, middle-level businessmen, provincial notables and landlords living in provincial towns, and professionals. A much larger group, the petty bourgeoisie, comprised those who provided a range of services, largely in Bangkok, to the ruling class, the upper middle class, and to tourists and other foreigners. Often this petty bourgeoisie consisted of small-scale independent businessmen, some of them shop owners, others furnishing their services contractually. Some were salaried clerical staff. Both upper and lower segments of this middle category include many Chinese as well as Thai.

In the Thai scale of values, higher prestige tended to be accorded to those in government employment and perhaps to those in the professions. The private sector as a source of substantial income was a relatively new idea to the Thai, however, and their scale of values might change as an entrepreneurial bourgeoisie began seeking to have its status validated. In any case, the elements in the upper segment of this middle category could be said to share the same outlook and values or the same political status implied in the notion of class. The position of bureaucrats and notables (middle-level businessmen and landowners) who lived in provincial towns was of particular interest. On their home ground they exercised considerable power, formally and informally, but they owed this power at least in part to their connections, usually as clients to patrons in Bangkok, although they in turn had clients at lower levels.

There was also a lower urban stratum, but this too was heterogeneous. On the one hand, there were the more or less steady wage workers in commercial and industrial enterprises, mainly in Bangkok (and in mining outside Bangkok). On the other hand, there were large numbers of persons, like the wage workers, often from rural areas, who had no steady work and sought to eke out a living by offering their services as unskilled labor.


Social Mobility

The expansion of the bureaucracy and the military and the movement of the Thai into a rapidly growing private sector created opportunities for social mobility, although the major part of the population remained rural workers or moved into low-level occupations in the urban labor force. Associated with upward mobility, given the Thai orientation toward bureaucratic careers, was the availability of education. Expansion of education facilities beyond the secondary level occurred in the early 1970s. In 1961, for example, about 42,000 full-time and part-time students were enrolled in 6 higher education institutions, but by 1972 there were roughly 72,000 in more than a dozen institutions. The oldest and most prestigious universities, such as Chulalongkorn, Thammasat, and Mahidol, were in Bangkok. Many students attended universities outside Thailand, but these were more likely to be the children of Thai or Chinese who had already attained a fairly high socioeconomic position.



So.....THIS IS FROM THIRD PARTY SOURCE: U.S. Library of Congress=Scholar works+many mores;not random every day people blogs. Its so shameful too though....with ALL the opportunity Chinese/elites have in front of them you would think they have "educative brain" to NOT be thug idiots like PAD?

It's like once, you have powers (using murder, intimidations, education to exploit, brainwash, whatevers.....etc....) you would think it would be enough? NO, it's like Vampire who like taste of Blood ALWAYS want more and more, until eventually.... ordinary common villages rises up for "Vampire hunt" and give them taste of their own blood. ALL these Arrogances people who DO and DID have opportunity of well off is ONLY wasting their space to breath on planet but with the thirsts and greedy is not enough they will soon destroy themself in the end.

Hail Mahakasatri Bhumibon!!!!!!!!!!!! Thais please don't fight among yourselves, we in South are so scared seeing Thailand in mess. You could influence us in South and our situation are actually influencing each others. Be respectful to King, and manage your country without any intervention from outside. We from outside can't give our fair judge since we are not clear about your situation in Thailand, just hope that everyone can live prosperously.

Here's your chance in muslim south to break away from kingdom of Thailand but i dont think the Thai military will let y'all get away with it tho, only the yellow shirted terrorists.

It's funny how the military showed up with guns at the court verdict but they didnt have the guts to show up the airport to throw out the terrorists.

Well ,your ignorant view never faded ,seem like fail to mention about the court verdict that those who said win the majority vote are guilt on vote buying.

Move on to the mess out side the court if the goverment supporter believe that they are not guilt why they need to surround the court and lets the cops and military do their job?

If the UAE where Thaksin base now know about the Takbai Massacre by Thai State under Thaksin rull. Are they still happy to lets him be there?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seSIT8nfPg0

The military didnt work for his governement so it was the military under its own leadership that massacre those muslim protesters and they're still doing it now. See the double standard when it comes dealing with PAD?

Atleats they didnt hold anybody hostage against their will and cause harm to the economy. The army and the court have been bending over backward to help the PAD supported Democrats after the coup and they still cant win election. Now the military and the court is helping them again.


Read what people have been saying about ur terrorist friends in a Thai news forum.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/board/thai...39&offset=0

dude aerforceone is a PAD supporter, he is not going to understand the opposite view you are talking about

I know that's why i'm on his @$$ all the time. I'm still waiiting for the other PAD supporter, Jokie, to pop up so i can get his @$$ too.

Its just as bad as how PAD were paying people to protest, thats just sad and pitiful, so they should be guilty of the same thing.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

This is all I have to say.

Some of the comments are actually funny, I am not surprise that most of the people who posted their comments do not like PAD.

Like it or not, PAD gets what they fight for.

And I agree all these comments are quite funny as most are pretty self-contradict. This is the first time in the history of Thai politic where corrupt politicians are actually declared guilty as charge by the court of law. This proves to Thai public that just because you are rich and all powerful, it doesn't mean that you will get what you want.

How is it self-contradictory, when these are just their own opinions? Lets get real - NO ONE LIKES PAD.

And for your own information it was the court that dissolved PPP and Somchai, there was a case in the making for it already. PAD really did not do anything but just take over airports and public buildings.

Wrong.... by PAD doing, they have prevented the past government from amending the constitution thereby allowing the justice system to work as it should. Without them, the constitution would have been altered since June, and we wouldn't see any of this happening.

If you hate Thailand and PAD so much because we are really bad and evil, you should be happy because in the long run, PAD's doing would make Thailand worse than Cambodia which would be good for you; unless this is not true. So be happy now...

PAD hate thailand, that is why they cause all the chaos.

I support Thailand, and I cant wait until the NExt Election, YaaaHooooo

lolzzzzz

Im hoping ont he next flight to Thailand, Finally i can go see my Thai girlfriend, she is naked and waiting for me to go pound dat arse.

Good for you.

Thanks, Unlike you, I thought all the Chaos was not good for Thailand.

U however supported all the Chaos.

ur a trouble maker,

Well, im going to buy my plane ticket again to Bangcock now, just let me know in advance if u monkey's are going to do anything, so i dont have to fly 20 hours to thailand and be stuck there. if i get stuck at the airport again, im going to slap u monkey's around.

I actually think of it as a compliment. And by the way I don't to need to go all the way to Thailand to get my penis banged. Unlike you, I can get it banged wherever I am. Poor you.

Lolzzz, please dont compare ur ugly arse to me.

Im talking about My Thai Girlfriend Only, well the one that lives in Thailand, not the one that lives in the US, because she is affected by these events in thailand.

I dont feel the need to include my other girlfriends in this conversation because they are un-efected by the yellow monkey shirts.

well, except for my Viet Lao girlfriend in Laos, but that is more longterm relationship, so i dont have the urgency to make love to her. but making love to my Thai girlfriend is so awesome, she is #1 in my sex life, she does things i thought were impossible.

i bet this statement will come back and bite you in the @$$ since the red shirt are actually the poor people, the yellow people are the rich one , so i think it will come back to hunt you yellow people

thats so funny, the Rich ELite Class of Thailand are backing the PAD and the poor Isan farmers are backing up the red shirt. These foo's got things backword.

I think the world already knows who is behind the PAD, Royal elite and ruling class of Bangkok vs the rural working class in Isan and Nothern Thailand.

U can lie to the ppl sometime, but u cant lie to the ppl all the time

well said, why thai love their king so much, don't they know he is old and already married with kids, they got brainwash, badly

If you hate Thailand and PAD so much because we are really bad and evil, you should be happy because in the long run, PAD's doing would make Thailand worse than Cambodia which would be good for you; unless this is not true. So be happy now...
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Yokie, always like your plain and simple statement, you're right to the point. You must at least agree to the fact that this can't be good for Thailand right now. I'll be the first of many that do respects their view, but why put a nation in this predicament? Corruption is everywhere even in America.

Sometimes we all have to take things as they are and hope that things will work for the better. Since PAD have deposed the lawfully elected MPs and PMs from office, this is a major defeat for democracy. The problem is, that once the commoners have tasted their free and fair elections, they will demand for more. Having their elected party or leaders deposed by means of force will tear the country apart in the long runs.
Things do not change for people at the borders when Thailand is at peace, we will be poor and ruled by organized crimes as usual but we get by, if war start, we will bear the brunts of it.

Red shirt will rise again in the next election, because they're the majority. People power.

blah blah another self-proclaim prophet...

What's left PPP and other smaller parties can still band togther to form the dominant party. The PAD and Democrats are hoping that the disbanded smaller parties will join the Democrats but it doesnt look that way tho.

Very simple question do you know why these corupt goverment been elect?

my @$$ maybe uglier than yours,
but I'm sure my penis is much more handsome.

how the hell do you tell if a penis is hansome or not , you must go around a lots and compare huh

I'm a doctor. What can I say?