Ignorant people who think like this are spreading disunifying sediment and destorying the fragile concept of Filipino Nationalism. The Philippines should be considered Mult-cultural and Multi-religious state, bond together by the indigenous concept of brotherhood and unity as indigenous is an aspect we all share, before some adopted islam they were indigenous. before some adopted christianity they were indigenous. Indigenous Filipinos and Muslim Filipinos of today should be equals to their Filipino christian brother and equally represented. the Indigenous and Muslim ancestral land comprise much of the philippine land area. how can you mis-treat them as second class citizens and then suggest deporting them from their own land because some of them are speaking out against their mistreatment and are desperately resorted to a struggle for absoulte soverignty of their own unconquered land? Their ancestors successfully resisted both belligerent spanish and american colonizers. Now their own christianized brother are going to be belligerent to them? they are going to resist them as well.... unless there is equal representation and respect so they truly feel a part of the Filipino Nation. Our nation is a Multi-cultural and Multi-religious state.

Dalawapo you took what I said out of context. I said terrorists should be crushed like ants, not all filipino muslims. I think all this indigenous austronesian pride has gotten to you.

no u talk about indigenous and muslim in the philippines as second class citizens! no wonder there are muslim terrorists...

Their not 2nd class citizens. They just happen to be the ethnic minority in the Philippines. I was just referring to the few muslims who are terrorists. Those are the people who need to be crushed or deported. As well as the communist militant group, NPA (I think that is whats it is called?) they need to go also. The innocent filipino muslims can live freely as they wish, and so can the indigenous people.

Well anyway I have to leave.

u spoke very condescendily about your brother.



i dont think u have any respect for how brave they were to wish to preserve their indigenous beliefs and become known as unconquerable tribes of the philippines. i think your only pride is whatever spaniards brought on their disease ridden boat.

Whatever, its useless arguing with you. You get too emotional about things
And you take everything I say out of context.

All I hear about is MILF and Pinoy Muslim boys..where are the Communist groups? Did they die out? You know, the Communist insurgents?

No I think the commies are called the NPA it stands for New Peoples Army. Oh well those roaches aren't needed in the Philippines as well.

But maybe the NPA will gather new strengths again... what with P!GMA the way she is...

How is she?

mmm... for a starter, Marcos-like? as most activists used to chant, tuta ng imperyalistang America. a sucker for Bush and his war mongering... ah the appetizer for NPAs, leftists and rightists...

F*ck all them brainwashin christian f*ckers they can all go to their so called hell

Oh God if what happened to cambodia with the khmer rouge happens to the philippines.....


I saw a movie about the khmer rough called killing fields. I almost cried

is there anywhere in the philippines where a catholic church, moslem mosque and indigenous spiritual building are all standing side by side?

Then how the heck did she win the elections then. If you say that she's that weak.

well I heard in davao, you will find japanese, chinese, moslem, and catholic and even protestant places of worship. And youll even see some moro women in their nice malongs and and even some visayans and tagalogs wearing patadyongs all walking and talking in one market in Unity. Is this true

gee! where did you read there the word weak pertaining to P!GMA? Marcos-like doesn't mean weak! tuta ng imperyalistang amerika is not the same as weak... it is a figure of speech that means she always aims to please the US/Bush... thus 'a sucker for Bush war mongering'...

How else would she win the election if not by underhand machinations, like the promise of removing the PPA in your bills for electricity, which incidentally is being implemented again now, meaning you have to pay for the additional amount for power purchase adjustment/agreement (which is complicated to explain here)... She won by manipulating the media and some surveys before the election, by eliminating the oppositions and other contenders through smear campaigns, by outright vote buying through release of funds through the various government agencies such as the DA, BFAR, DENR and many others, by posting huge streamers and posters with her face and the words, pangkabuhayang proyekto ni P!GMA all over the countryside. Boy, don't you read the papers?!

all these and the current events today will actually spark a renewal of the NPA revolution (what with the terms 'civil unrest' flying all around)... they will, in my personal opinion that is...

There are currentely have a warfare between Muslim and Christain in Philipine!!! So?? The Philipine is Not a safe place to live then!!! . How come they want to battle to each other????

because the spanaird colonizer made the malay think of each other as ememies based on religious and cultural differences.....

thats why i hate spanish

So?? Which a race is more popular and power in the Philipine???

I only hate Spain because they used religion to conquer most of the world

for me all race here in the philippines are equal; watever we called oorselves her still we are filipino's

that is not reality in the philippines, is it?

from what my cousin tell me, ethnic chinese run the economy and have all the money.

ethnic malays are split and fighting each other between christian malay, muslim malay and indigenous malay.

and mestizo (mixed ethnic malay and another ethnic) are the demi-gods who are worshiped... and the simple ethnic malay wish to claim to be one...

negritos are the jungle "savages"

Well, is that an unbiased, observed fact? Sure, some ethnic chinese owns restaurants and some local merchandising stores, but want to know who are the really rich and powerful families in the PI? look up the names of the Philippine Senates, Congressmen and Governors... you'll have the upper 20% in terms of having all the money, then throw in the surnames, Ayala, Zobel, Cojuangco, Madrigal, Concepcion and the likes and you have the people holding the purse strings... oh yeah we have some Tans (as in Lucio Tan, chinese? a Nagueño, grew up here in Naga City as a boy in an Abaca buyer's bodega). Ethnic Chinese? the surname perhaps...

Running Philippine Economy? WHAT ECONOMY?

Ethnic Malays are fighting against each other hmm? all the time? nah, just when one encroaches in the other's territories and tries to influence them... but that does not happen all the time... (bombings in Mindanao, you'd say...) fanatics trying to make a statement, i'll say.

Mestizos are demi-gods, huh? There was a time, when I had a schoolmate who is a mestiza and guess what... children used to taunt her as anak-araw (child of the sun) or Amerikanang layas (expelled american/dismissed american/runaway american) though her father wasn't even american but german...)

Negritos/indigenous - savages? think again, we are now conducting research and collaboration with the IP (indigenous people) to learn their ways in terms of healing, wildlife conservation and others.

Do let your cousin travel in the countryside to augment his/her idea of what is really happening in the Philippines...

hey, this is friendly debate, okay?

Dum dum dum, you show him who's boss maogma_aki.

nice aki, yan ang gusto ko sayo eh.

Dalawapo are these the kind of people you support?

Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Al-Harakatul Islamia
Abu Sayyaf is the smaller of the Islamist groups fighting to establish an Iranian-style Islamic state in Mindanao, an island in the southern Philippines.

The Abu Sayyaf group, whose name means, “Bearer of the Sword,” split from the Moro National Liberation Front in 1991. Although based almost exclusively in the southern islands, Abu Sayyaf has ties to a number of Islamic fundamentalist organizations around the world, including Osama bin Ladin’s al-Qaida and Ramzi Yousef, who was convicted of organizing the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York.

Abduragak Abubakar Janjalani, the former leader of the group, like Osama bin Ladin, was a veteran of the war in Afghanistan. Abu Sayyaf has a membership of approximately several hundreds of young Islamic radicals, many of whom were recruited from univerities and high schools.
History
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History
The founder and the leader of Abu Sayyaf until 1998 was Abduragak Abubakar Janjalani. In December 1998, Janjalani was killed in a firefight with police in the village Lamitan in Basilam Island. Janjalani led the group since the 1991 split with the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF). A veteran of the Afghanistan war, Janjalani kept close ties with other Islamic radical leaders.
After Janjalani's death a power struggle took place within the organization, with the former leader's brother, Khadafy Janjalani finally emerging as the new leader.

Abu Sayyaf is estimated to have several hundred active fighters, largely based in the islands of Basilan, Sulu and Tawi-Tawi in the Philippines' southernmost section. It is beleived to have roughly a thousand supporters in the southern islands.

The group finances its operations mainly through robbery, piracy and ransom kidnappings. Abu Sayyaf may also receive funding from the international terrorist network of Osama bin Ladin.

Abu Sayyaf never took part in the peace process between the government and the MNLF, demanding an independent Islamic country.


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Terrorist Activities
Abu Sayyaf's activities include bombings, assassinations, kidnappings, and extortion from companies and wealthy businessmen in order to attain their aims.
The group’s first major terrorist attack was a grenade attack in 1991, in which two foreign women were killed. The following year Abu Sayyaf militants hurled a bomb at a wharf in the southern city of Zamboanga where the MV Doulous, an international floating bookstore manned by Christian preachers, was docked. Several people were injured.

This attack was followed by similar bombings on Zamboanga airport and Roman Catholic churches. In 1993 the group bombed a cathedral in Davao City, killing seven people.

The group has consitently targeted foriegners for kidnapping. In 1993, Abu Sayyaf gunmen kidnapped Charles Walton, a language researcher at the US-based Summer Institute of Linguistics. Walton, then 61, was freed 23 days later.

The following year, Abu Sayyaf militants kidnapped three Spanish nuns and a Spanish priest in separate incidents. In 1998, their victims included two Hong Kong men, a Malaysian and a Taiwanese grandmother.

In April 1995 Abu Sayyaf carried out a vicious attack on the Christian town of Ipil in Mindanao. Gunmen razed the town center to the ground and shot 53 civilians and soldiers dead. The military said at that time the group has forged links with international terrorist cells.

It is in the district of Quiapo, Manila.

You could see a Catholic church, a Mosque, a Christian church

fil-am i was disagreeing how you spoke condescendingly about muslims and indigenous filipinos. you said the idnigenous should be "lucky" they got what they have now.... you spoke about the muslims as second class citizens.

i do not support terrorism. but you support discriminating filipinos. that is why the philippines can lead to khmer rouge.

there is the

cultureal discrimination
religious discrimination
ethnic descrimination
mestizo descrimination

the philippines needs to deal with these issues, and learn from the uglyness of the khmer rouge. or it may do the same.

Hey Dalawapo!! Did you just mention about the Khmer Rouge in somewhere around here?????

Where did I say that Filipino muslims should live as second class citizens. Stop pulling words out of your @55 Dalawapo, I never said that. And stop comparing me to the khmer rougue, I never contemplated genocide did I. Your an master of manipulating what other people say, Dalawapo.

explain your statement about igorots should be "lucky" with what they have now!

you are discriminating and looking at them as second class citizens, they are "lucky" to keep their land, they are "lucky" they did not get exterminated?

you are always talking condescending about muslims..... "thank god the spaniards converted the philippines to christianity"



u are looking at islam as a enemy. a undesired thing....

Yeah being thankful that the Christianity was introduced to the Philippines means I look down on them.

And I meant that they are lucky that their still indigenous. You know they could have already been part of mainstream Philippines by now.

why do u pretend all the time? u pretend ur not ejay u pretend u dont have issues with muslims.

WTF I have issues with terrorists/fundamentalists not muslims. Why do you keep on getting the word muslim mixed up with terrorist.

You are wrong Fil-Am, dalawapo knows everything so don't argue with him!

u hate muslim and pre-colonial philippines and wish we were all hispanic bean eaters, admit it!

yeah... the AF jack of all trades....
how i wish i'm like dalawapo, also a jack of all trades
but a good one ha.

Yes I wish I can hate my own people like Dalawapo does. Or admire an ugly hawaiian wannabe who is ashamed to admit she is filipina, just like dalawapo admires her.

Hey guys, enough of that... we'll be starting another word war here, and that will be Word War Nth! i forgot to count...

hey, gives me an idea...

well, that how life goes here in AF, war here, war there....

Kaya nga, i made a thread/topic for word war, so far wala naman tuloy nakikigyera!