Change yes we can in the end MR Abhisit win the vote for PM. Compare to his rival Pol.Gen Pracha, at least his image is much better than Pol.Gen.Pracha because he is more domestically and internationally accepted by investors and this will bring more confidence to Thailand. Confidence among the international communities is the most important because it will urge them to come and put more investments in Thailand. Now it depends on Khun Apisit and your team to get through economic hurdles which you have to solve and keep your promise.

http://bangkokpost.com/topstories/topstories.php?id=135407

change? what change? Change comes from the PEOPLE!! the only reason Abhisit won the vote was because of the palace and the army. His government is not people's government, it is the army's government. so much of the name 'Democrat party' hey!

Agree, you make sense.

Dude please respect the vote from senate who is from the majority ,this time Democrat win from the majority vote in parliament please respect.

How was that Democratic? The coalition government was not formed as a result of a popular election. Rather, it was the result of the interfering hands of the military and the palace and the thuggish PAD that severely crippled Thailand and drowned out the voice of the dominant majority, the rural Thais of whom they thought were too stupid to make informed decisions regarding Thai politics. Thailand is going down the toilet at the moment.

Well u need to excercise ur brain more to be more specific about this. Its simple enough that the ex goverment who fail to solve any problem and only think of helping Thaksin to escape the law case is fail and the second large party step up to take position by the majority vote of the senate not the military interfere

Congratulations to Mr. Ahbisit --- but can he do a good job? Technically he did not won the the seat democratically elected by the majority of citizens of Thailand who are registered to vote. He won because most of the majority was dissolved, and of course the previous minority of the Thai senate/parliament is the new majority, so its a win-win situation for the opposition.

By the way AEROFORCE1, Democrat Party was founded by Khuang Aphaiwong, he was half Khmer, just some information for you to know and be aware of.

http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/20...sits-true-love/

Who is Abhisit’s true love?
December 11th, 2008 by Andrew Walker · 5 Comments
On the first day of Christmas my true love sent to me a coup against my arch enemy.

On the second day of Christmas my true love sent to me a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the third day of Christmas my true love sent to me a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the fourth day of Christmas my true love sent to me a farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the fifth day of Christmas my true love sent me to Samak Sundaravej. A farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the sixth day of Christmas my true love sent to me one in three MPs and Samak Sundaravej. A farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the seventh day of Christmas my true love sent to me PAD attacking, one in three MPs and Samak Sundaravej. A farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the eighth day of Christmas my true love sent to me some right royal backing, PAD attacking, one in three MPs and Samak Sundaravej. A farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the ninth day of Christmas my true love sent to me a cook-show PM sacking, right royal backing, PAD attacking, one in three MPs and Somchai Wongsawat. A farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the tenth day of Christmas my true love sent to me an airport occupation, a cook-show PM sacking, right royal backing, PAD attacking, one in three MPs and Somchai Wongsawat. A farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the eleventh day of Christmas my true love sent to me PPP’s destruction, an airport occupation, a cook-show PM sacking, right royal backing, PAD attacking, one in three MPs and my new best friend Newin. A farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

On the twelfth day of Christmas my true love sent to me 80 MP’s seduction, PPP’s destruction, an airport occupation, a cook-show PM sacking, right royal backing, PAD attacking, 243 MPs and my new best friend Newin. A farcical referendum, a brand new constitution, a party dissolution and a coup against my arch enemy.

(Rest assured, with practice this can be sung. Here is the music

Abhist is a cockroach and so are those Demorats.

http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/20...lawful-society/

29.8.2008: The destruction of lawful society
September 8th, 2008 by Nick Nostitz, Guest Contributor · 12 Comments


On 29 August 2008 police finally got the expected order to clear the situation at Government House and Makhawan Bridge. The strategy was to clear the streets around Government House, dismantle the tents and the stage, and encircle Government House. They then wanted to stop, and let people out, but nobody in.

Orders were that police had to use minimal force, and they complied with this order, and it did amazingly well. There was very little usage of batons; no excessive force I could detect. A bit shuffling around with protesters; a bloody head or the like. In any western country a lot more force would have been used in similar conditions. Well, in the liberal west there would have been no similar condition as the protest site at Makhawan Bridge would not have been permitted and protesters would have been dispersed the day they tried to set up camp.



Most injured I could see simply lost consciousness, old people. One collapsed directly next to me.

Police took care to paste copies of their court orders on every structure, saying that these structures and contents were confiscated by the state, before pulling them down. Police pulled a weapons cache from People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) guards — countless swords, machetes, iron bars, and golf clubs. There were several dozen bullets and an empty gun holster. And one large sack of “Bai Kratom” — an illegal leaf stimulant.



The police was generally very upbeat, appearing proud of their success.

There was a slight confrontation when police tried to disperse PAD protesters that have gathered at Makhawan bridge behind the PAD stage. Nothing serious.

But then all operations halted. 30 Senators led by Rosana Tositrakul have came to visit the PAD in Government House. Then, the pipe smoking General Pathompong Kesornsook suddenly appeared. The mood rapidly changed. First he was with the police (I came too late to hear what he said), then he went to a few Border Patrol Police officers, and spoke. Some stood up, most kept sitting, but they were obviously stunned. The General told them that many years ago the Border Patrol Police killed Thai citizens, that they can’t do so again. And so forth.

He got back into his chauffeur driven Mercedes Benz, and drove off.

Then the 30 Senators came to Makhawan Bridge from the PAD site inside Government House. I asked one Senator if he had seen the weapons displayed by Police. He asked me if I was sure that they weren’t planted. I was. I told him that I have photographed the same already a month before. They all went back in.
Then suddenly Democrat leader Abhisit came. With him was a Member of Parliament who shouted to us media monkeys: “Look at me, take my pictures! I am a Democrat Member of Parliament! Look at what horrible things the Thai police have done to unarmed Thai citizens!”

“Yeah”, I thought, “right…and what about the weapons cache?”

Abhisit spent maybe 20 minutes with the “injured”, walked past the police, and spent about 20 seconds with them (I could not hear what he said). Abhisit disappeared, and suddenly PAD came with a mobile stage, and a mass of people out of Government House.






They came straight to the police line. A few objects were thrown, and police was pressed by the mass of people away. Police could not even defend themselves because of their limited orders. All ran, including me and other journalists. Within minutes the police lost all the ground they had gained, and the PAD ruled the streets again. At the corner opposite Royal Plaza a group of police was cornered, and extremely aggressive PAD protesters suddenly turned against them. I was caught in between, and felt close to panic. It was very scary. One PAD protester postured himself up like a Gorilla male, screaming strange noises. Fortunately a line of PAD guards was formed that held their protesters back.



General Pathompong appeared again, flanked by PAD protesters, and Senator Rosana Tositrakul, and marched towards Metropolitan Police headquarters. Several of the PAD protesters tried to hinder me taking photos, which I ignored. The General gave an order that the foreign photographer is allowed to take pictures, and I was not hindered anymore.
After the General disappeared into the headquarters, I briefly spoke with another spook/bodyguard type –the driver of a large SUV, who claimed that he “was with” Kraisak Choonhavan.

Later that afternoon/evening was the incident with the teargas and smoke bombs when PAD tried to get into Metropolitan Police headquarters. I wasn’t there, I was at home. A few hours later I came back to the protest site, walked a bit in front Metropolitan Police Headquarters. I could still feel the teargas. While I took a few pictures of vandalized police cars, an old police officer in plain clothes came to me, shook my hand, and close to crying said: ” Please, take these photos — show the reality.” Over and over again.

That day I was disgusted. I saw the destruction of the last chance to bring the situation under control within the means of the law. I have seen police behave in an absolutely professional manner, something not that often seen in Thailand. And then, because of a few bloody heads, a few people who collapsed, police were accused of “brutality”. What brutality? Why are PAD protesters allowed to carry weapons openly, use them against police, and the police can’t do anything?

How, based on such flimsy and manufactured evidence, were court orders that took ages to get, suddenly withdrawn that same afternoon?

When UDD protested in front of Prem’s Compound a year before, the army ordered police against their wishes to disperse the UDD protesters, and with much more violence, even though UDD sat there for more than 5 hours and held speeches, without any attack on Prem’s compound. UDD did not illegally occupy a government building, did not attack a TV station with knifes and a gun. It did not block for nearly three days 400 police officers and hindered them from leaving.
Are there two kinds of law against two kinds of protest groups? Are the unwashed masses not allowed what the supposedly “educated middle classes” of the PAD (and their southern army trained Naclop Srivichai thugs) are?

After this day the police have not been the same. Whenever I speak with police officers (and I do that a lot) — they appear to be completely demoralized. They are not even allowed to carry batons, while PAD can carry those unhindered.

And nowhere in the Thai media do I see any sympathy for the police on the ground.

29 August 2008 was a day that started as a day of pride for the Thai police force, having done their duty to the point of the law. And it ended as a day where the patronage system with its extrajudicial powers won against the law. And this day, I fear, will have consequences far beyond this current mess. A dismantled and demoralized police force is not going to be able to function.

Already now, in many areas of town, the security situation has deteriorated. At one level, the police force is stretched to its limits overseeing the still ongoing unprecedented illegal occupation of Government House. At another, maybe more important, level it is worth asking how such an unjustly defeated police force can be motivated to do its duty when it is hindered in such an unconstitutional manner on the very day when it was at the best I have seen it?

Update (9 September 2008): Readers looking

Hope he can come up with an acceptable common ground between the various opposing parties and stabilize the country, putting an end to these protests of yellow against red, and now red against yellow, and so on. This can sure lead to a bigger instability not only in the country but also in the whole region.

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You the one need to exercise your brain buddy. Ex governments got elected by the majority never have a chance to solve the problems, because PAD, Rama 9 and Military were working together to bring down elected government, because they don't like one guy "Thaksin Shinawatra", by taking over public building, air ports, street, but police failed to stop those thugs. Thai Lak thai got voted in twice. Democracy for PAD has no meaning, only central thai minority rule make sense to them.

Abhisit's Democrat Party won just over 34 percent of the votes cast in last year's elections. He won Monday's vote 235 to 198 by persuading many members of the former ruling coalition to change sides. Those that voted for Abhisit don't clearly don't represent people. He was hoisted into office by the back door," Thitinan Pongsudhirak, a political scientist, said of Abhisit. "The military have arm-twisted former government MPs to change sides; he's benefited from a kind of judicial veto exercised when the courts don't like the government, and the People's Alliance for Democracy has effectively blackmailed the legislature to prevent another Puea Thai government.

He won because the ex- goverment senate join his side. Make it this way if the power not switch what gonna happen ? The ex goverment change the PM twice already but still cant manage to handle any things from mob to economic. Its reasonable enough to give a chance to Democrat to prove them selve


This article is oversimplify on what happen before and relate to Abhisit, Abhisit is able to win the vote 235 to 198 because the ex PPP switch the side to join him. It’s all the game of power.


What u want people to imply from this?
Only visit people who is injure from the politician violent is consider as Support on PAD? Give me a break it just his 2 day in office. It too early to judge a man before he work.

I always hear King and Coup in every single comment concerning Thai politic from Buckerlove. Any way leave his oversimplified and optimistic comment on every single things concern Thai for awhile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhisit_Vejjajiva
All I care is the one who can do the job is in chart. According to his profile ,I think this guy has the brains and character to do a good job. We knows Thailand needs some serious brain power in this position. The big question is, can this guy find some way to connect with the rural poor. Under Thaksin and his surrogates, they threw money at the poor, and this is what the poor want to see continue; they have been "trained" to think like this.

My recommend to this guy is he needs to use all his intelligence and compassion to convince the poor that they are better served by learning how to "fish" better, rather than just have someone give them fish. Thailand has great potential in their agricultural sector to dominate the region in that sector. But they need to modernize and become more efficient.

The need for food and clean drinking water worldwide are going to be real big "BFD's" in the coming years. Thailand has these resources, they just need to become better "fishermen". Overall, I am hopeful and will continue to pray for the Thai people and Mr. Abhisit.

Abhist is just a front for the coup leaders, he's just a puppet. It's a fact that alot of the Democrats including Abhist were at the PAD rally so that makes them supporters of these terrorists. So how is he gonna win back foreign investments and confidence when he and his fellow Demorats were the ones behind closing the airports?

Jek and central thai like to give many excuses for their mis-management and blame the rural people, those thugs are not thing but leech that like to work for their own benefit on their country side expense. Here are the five facts.


1. Those losers don't give a genuine voice to the country sides people, they stage a coup when rural candidates were in power and claiming that they don't know how to pick their candidates. funny excuse.
2. They don't give a fair participation and ownership of assets and businesses, many good jobs are given to their friends and offspring. If you have no connection, you're doomed.
3. They're corrupted themselves, but still hold on to their posts while opposition get axed.
4.The distribution of national resources and development initiatives are concentrated around bangkock and their neighborhoods, while country side get far less. The skytrain in bangkock is one of the example, billion bath to build, and look like a few buses connecting to each other. traffic still look like sh!t.
5. Strategies for revitalization of the following sectors: Agriculture and rural development, Human resource development, Physical infrastructure for the country side is least of their concern. Country side schools, hospitals, parks look like sh!t. Thaksin Shinawat was doing a good job of seeing problems, but got axed by those arrogant slave owners wannabe. Their thinking still stuck in the medieval period.

Well again this is too over simplify and over rate about him. Time will tell he is guilt as puppet or not ,right now the balance checking here is so strong ,as u see both side yellow and red keep an eyes on other single act. I am worry more on he is rather passive person and not has backbone required from a leader, especially in such a volatile time, politically and economically. I wish him well.

Can't see any better choice available. He is the best we got now, a Bloke's from Newcastle, educated at Eton n Oxford. How more dodgy can you get.
And this is the good response from the business section after he in power.


Abhisit factor lifts SET 2.9%

NUNTAWUN POLKUAMDEE and DARANA CHUDASRI

Thai stocks gained 2.89% yesterday as Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva formally was named Thailand's 27th prime minister by Parliament.
for more information

http://www.bangkokpost.com/161208_Business...c2008_biz28.php

Abhisit was not Democratically elected by the people. Rather, he was installed by the dark hands of the traditional establishments, namely the royal household and the military. This was all power play and the Bangkok elitists have won... for now.

I see this as a simple case of the minority self-serving Bangkok elitists robbing the rights of the vast majority of Thais (predominantly rural and poor) a proper say in the Thai democracy.

The PADs are a bunch of thuggish mobs and should be banned and prosecuted. They demanded a party appointed parliament for God's sake. They want 70% of members of parliaments to be chosen by the elitists because they believe that the rural Thais are too stupid and ignorant to make informed voting decisions.

It's funny when the legally elected PM's from PPP were office you guys didnt give them a chance. Now it's pay back time. What's with the populist policies that the Demorats are stealing from Thaksin? so much for accusing him bribing the poor but Demorats are stealing his ideas.


I've been watching the stock market going up and down like a yoyo the last 8 yrs, how long do you think that optimism in the Thai stock market is going last? Is Kunshaw your financial adviser? You and a few other PAD supporters can go ahead put your money where your mouth is because alot of foreign investors aint gonna. Have you seen the news about happy those protestors at the paliament house were with the Demorats? it's obvious that there's still alot of unsolved issues that wont be solved by the military selecting a young MP to hide behind their coup.

Agreeeeeeeeeee

The stock market swing up and down by the good news and bad news. This can considered that MR Abhisit become PM is the good news. And for sure it would swing again by the external factor. Well there are so many aspect to view on people ,I cant make every one happy with him. More important things is that he can do his job as the PM or not? It just the third day that he is in power and also there are so many problem that the politic cant solve ( this happen in every country). For now the best I can do is just wait and see.

Somebody need to whisper on Abhisit that it's the right time for Thailand to have the same government system like China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba and North Korea, so he cans stay in power longer as he cans, since democracy can be confusing for many thai people.

^None of them are EVEN close to Marxism so I have to disagree. Plus, I don't agree with lumping North Korea with the progressive actions from all the other nations to better their economy and the peoples' situation.

It's like America, it's not always a TRUE democracy but rather a "Republic".

Nangdee, who's side are u on? we're trying to bring these central youngersters down from their high horses, can you just playing along, please?

Sometimes i dont think that there's much difference between the powerful people running Thailand and those of communist countries.

Watch your stock market when the red shirts storm your parliament house, ok.

^I'm just being real with Buddhalove's statement. It's true though, North Korea shouldn't be lumped together with the progress of China, Vietnam, and Laos moving on forward and healing our countries. I don't want him to associate our country with something like North Korea-laugh2 **I know he was trying to make a point though about Thailand's situation. I feel bad for the poor still though, no matter the CHOICES from EITHER side, it's still not a Win/Win situation for them.

At this point, it's like making people either settle for the "lesser" of the two evils or have their choices be decided by somebody else....in this case, yes it's sad the latter happened.

I didn't even mention about Marxism to start with. Everyone pretty much agree that there is no true communist country in the world like the way how Karl Marx described. I was just pointing out if Abasit want to stay in power as long as he cans, he should turn thai government to be like those five countries, because pretty much many of those leaders stay on their post until they retire.

^Well then you should have been specific as to why you think Thailand would benefit following the policies of these other countries then.

After many years getting involved with Politics locally and political sciences, let me tell you personally, TRUST me when I say NO GOOD comes out of ANY individual or any singular party involved if they stay in power for too long or even life!

When you are not threatened by your post being taken away, you lose touch with current issues (doesn't matter if you decide to get new younger advisers either), your mentality gets set into following a "repetitive routine" (not good for the country over time), etc, etc,.

Abasit will get the benefit.

Abe$hit will be escorted by military Junta while touring Isaan province. I guess the military will go there to make sure that Isaan people will love him.

Is Abhisit Vietnamese?

Yeah seriously I heard from Lao poster so many time,when they here talk about the poverty in Thailand I think in some what they should do some research about its reason ,instead of blaming to the politician or central Thai. It too cheap.

It just like you mention before on GDP per capita Some time in 1 family which has 5 member only one work for feed other 4. In my view it about they cant control their agriculture product price ,and not has that much negotiation power. It just my 2 cents though

Ummm, can one of u PAD monkees tell me what ethnicity Abhisit is?

I heard that he is Ethnic Vietnamese.

just need a confirmation

You're funny. Not all issan are farmer. There are politician, teachers, students, doctors, engineers, policeman.......etc. After graduation many of those have a hard time finding job, since many are in Bangkock, and many of those are reserved for well connected family. Rural go to city to look for job, but being asked why dirty people are here. Hello, Tax payer money is being spent mainly in bangkock, while country side infrastructure get far less. People can not live off the land like used to be anymore.

Many rural will take any job available, create their own opportunity, but still not enough, is not like they're waiting for hands out, which doesn't even exist to begin with. But central thai like to say, they need to learn how to fish. fish my arsss, they need better government that see their problems, spread wealth to rural, job opportunity, training, better schools, and hospital. Health and Social insurance do not provide universal coverage in Thailand but various provisions do exist to support the poor and sick. But Thaksin policies take care many of that issues, just like many western countries do. You help the sick, disable, blind, job less. He's a head of time while many dinosaur thai politicians still stuck in Chao nai and kee kha mentality.

I still believe in Abhisit. Any condemn messages here are the upsetter from world-class corruptor as Thaksin, and PPP party.

I couldn't agree more. 555555

Only PAD supporters will blindly believe that this cockroach is gonna clean coruptions and follow the rule of the law. Look at who he just put in charge of Foriegn minister position, one of the leaders of the PAD. The Thai army is going to Isaan to try to convince those people to like the new PM, Why they couldnt do that when the PPP were in power? these are the players that Thaksin was talking about exposing, it's very obvious who they are. It seem coruption is fine only if the military is behind you. This is not over yet.

Sorry mate he even visit Esarn and Lao even before he become PM. During the camouflage government years, he went to laos and tried his luck as travelling buffoon & escapologist.

1+ to his resume again



If u wanna bull around u need to do better job.

In this pic, he looks a bit Khaek to me.

And i still believe you're in deny, no need brain just to deny something. Not all PPP and democrat are corrupted, dispute ? , but elected PPP got their power robbed by the coup. Abhisit is representing the minority, and that how PAD democracy works in central siamese, and arrogant jek minds. Dissolve the parliament, and set up another election again, see who'll win ! i don't think abhisit like that idea, because they'll lose. I remember last election they only got 34% of the votes. true story.

What a nice show, but still looks faked.

blah blah blah, rubbish, non-sense. What comes out of your mouth truely sounds as if it is protruded from your anal hole. Maybe if you tell us why it doens't look authentic enough, it would surely mean something.

It's faked loser, the guy never done much like that in the past, but suddenly has his pic taken after the junta picked him to be the PM. That what i call fake.

They failed to mention too that people Isaan threw cow $hit at his car the last time he was there. Maybe that's why the Thai army are gonna go up there talking to the Isaan people before he goes up there again this time. Maybe the Army with be escorting him too.

Look like they'll shoot rural people to show how tough the central thai army, since those villagers carry weapon of mass destruction, "cow sh!ts."

They're a bunch cowards that have no experience in fighting wars with anyone other than staging coups and shooting and intimating their own people. All the metals on these generals jackets are probably from shooting student protesters in the past.

or family connection.

After every coup, the generals get awarded with metals and top spots in the cabinets.

And money too. Those are buying their posts, but don't like to call corruption, but something else.

Maybe you need to be taken down a peg or two, too, pal.