Full Version: Islamic jihad in The Philippines
If you have a large number of highly sexualised beautiful people - but yet a population also inclined to 'save face' - surely the Islamic model of Indonesia and Malaysia is the one to follow. The practises of Islam would do much more to halt the incredible population explosion that the PI is undergoing. Catholicism has been very damaging and a lot of really gullible people still hang on to the every word of people like Pope Ratzinger. The combination of Latin style morality and American consumerism in an Asian country is a disaster. As I say, Malay/Indo are better role models.
^As if Indonesia isn't one of the most populated countries and the Philippines share the corruption ranking with them almost every year first and second. As if Malaysian state don't have alot of inconsistencies.
What Filipinos need to do is stop exporting the problems and solutions. The problem and solution lie within Filipinos themselves. And it really has little to do with religion...but with COMMON SENSE
What Filipinos need to do is stop exporting the problems and solutions. The problem and solution lie within Filipinos themselves. And it really has little to do with religion...but with COMMON SENSE
^ very well said.
BS, on the opening post.
"Oh look! Lets copy our other neighbors!"
"Oh look, those Gulf State Muslims countries are rich!"
"We should follow them!"
"YEAH! Lets convert to islam like them!"
You see, this kinda bull$hitty attitude just fuels more problems to the Philippines.
Hell would have to freeze before we can see the Philippines be "malay-nized" *shudders*
"Oh look! Lets copy our other neighbors!"
"Oh look, those Gulf State Muslims countries are rich!"
"We should follow them!"
"YEAH! Lets convert to islam like them!"
You see, this kinda bull$hitty attitude just fuels more problems to the Philippines.
Hell would have to freeze before we can see the Philippines be "malay-nized" *shudders*
I have no use for religion, but a desire for strong nationalism and societal reform. Other Filipinos should follow suit.
Philippine population growth rate per region is highest in the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao. I am sure the people there do not follow the catholic church's teachings. This is despite the wars and food shortages.
The same pattern is true in other countries. The Palestinian population is increasing a lot faster than the Jewish population in Israel. This is why the Israelis were forced to have a two state solution. Not doing so would mean the Jews would be a minority in Israel very soon. Muslims in France are reproducing very fast that they will constitute 51% of the population by 2050, according to projections. Of course, this has to do with the low fertility rate of catholic french.
The same pattern is true in other countries. The Palestinian population is increasing a lot faster than the Jewish population in Israel. This is why the Israelis were forced to have a two state solution. Not doing so would mean the Jews would be a minority in Israel very soon. Muslims in France are reproducing very fast that they will constitute 51% of the population by 2050, according to projections. Of course, this has to do with the low fertility rate of catholic french.
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Philippine population growth rate per region is highest in the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao. I am sure the people there do not follow the catholic church's teachings. This is despite the wars and food shortages.
The same pattern is true in other countries. The Palestinian population is increasing a lot faster than the Jewish population in Israel. This is why the Israelis were forced to have a two state solution. Not doing so would mean the Jews would be a minority in Israel very soon. Muslims in France are reproducing very fast that they will constitute 51% of the population by 2050, according to projections. Of course, this has to do with the low fertility rate of catholic french.
The same pattern is true in other countries. The Palestinian population is increasing a lot faster than the Jewish population in Israel. This is why the Israelis were forced to have a two state solution. Not doing so would mean the Jews would be a minority in Israel very soon. Muslims in France are reproducing very fast that they will constitute 51% of the population by 2050, according to projections. Of course, this has to do with the low fertility rate of catholic french.
population increase is highest in metro manila and nearby areas actually.
actually the lowlanders and city people including mulim ones do multiply more than the highlanders
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population increase is highest in metro manila and nearby areas actually.
actually the lowlanders and city people including mulim ones do multiply more than the highlanders
actually the lowlanders and city people including mulim ones do multiply more than the highlanders
Ehermmm..
http://www.census.gov.ph/data/pressrelease...8/pr0830tx.html
in the period 2000-2007, NCR has a population growth rate of 2.11% while ARMM has 5.46%.
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ May 2 2009, 08:04 PM) [snapback]4216097[/snapback]
population increase is highest in metro manila and nearby areas actually.
actually the lowlanders and city people including mulim ones do multiply more than the highlanders
actually the lowlanders and city people including mulim ones do multiply more than the highlanders
Ehermmm..
http://www.census.gov.ph/data/pressrelease...8/pr0830tx.html
in the period 2000-2007, NCR has a population growth rate of 2.11% while ARMM has 5.46%.
QUOTE(arriba @ May 2 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]4216396[/snapback]
Ehermmm..
http://www.census.gov.ph/data/pressrelease...8/pr0830tx.html
in the period 2000-2007, NCR has a population growth rate of 2.11% while ARMM has 5.46%.
http://www.census.gov.ph/data/pressrelease...8/pr0830tx.html
in the period 2000-2007, NCR has a population growth rate of 2.11% while ARMM has 5.46%.
The reason why muslim mindanao has high birthrate is because they education and work,they almost have none of that.
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The reason why muslim mindanao has high birthrate is because they lack leisure time such as watching tv,they almost have none of that.
this is so furking inane!
It has been known for a very long time that maternal fertility trends follow the females' educational level, career advancement possibilities and income. In most muslim countries where women have practically no rights, one can only expect a high maternal fertility rate.
LOL this thread will go places....
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this is so furking inane!
It has been known for a very long time that maternal fertility trends follow the females' educational level, career advancement possibilities and income. In most muslim countries where women have practically no rights, one can only expect a high maternal fertility rate.
It has been known for a very long time that maternal fertility trends follow the females' educational level, career advancement possibilities and income. In most muslim countries where women have practically no rights, one can only expect a high maternal fertility rate.
that is my point dear.
Yeah, I don't think Islam promotes contraception.
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Inclination To Islam
at www.CONVERTSTOISLAM.com
Inclination-to-Islam Trend in the Contemporary Southeast Asia: The Philippine Case*
By Mansoor L. Limba | Posted June 23, 2004
A‘ūdhū billāhi minash-Shaytānir-Rajīm . Bismillāhir-Rahmānir-Rahīm . Ud‘u ilā sabīli rabbika bi’l-hikmah wa’l-maw‘izati’l-hasana . Wa jādilhum bi’l-latī hiya ahsan .
“Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord, with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious!” [Al-Qur’an 16:125]
Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, sisters and brothers in faith as well as in humanity: As-salāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuh.
Introduction
Before embarking on the discussion proper, allow me to highlight some points, which I deem relevant and essential for my present talk. Firstly, the inclination-to-Islam trend or the non-Muslims’ conversion/reversion to Islam is undoubtedly an integral part of the Islamic awakening or resurgence, which revolves around the concepts of tajdīd [revival] and islāh [reform]. Secondly, the Islamic awakening or resurgence is a global phenomenon. Thirdly, a manifestation of Islamic revival in one place has direct or indirect, short-term or long-term impacts in the other parts of the world. Lastly, as an integral part of the Islamic awakening or resurgence phenomenon, the inclination-to-Islam trend among the non-Muslims the world over ought to be discussed and analyzed within the framework of the global Islamic resurgence.
Keeping in mind the aforementioned points as my hypotheses and guidelines, I will henceforth examine the inclination-to-Islam trend in the contemporary Southeast Asia , focusing on the Philippines . My choice of the inclination-to-Islam trend in the Philippines as the focal point is anchored on two (2) fundamental reasons. First, as what is well known to all of you, Southeast Asia is predominantly inhabited by Muslims; the number of Muslims in Indonesia alone, which is almost 202 million last year,[1] is slightly more than that of the Arab countries combined together.[2] As to the countries such as Thailand , Singapore , Burma ( Myanmar ), Vietnam , Laos , and Cambodia in which the dominant religion is Buddhism, I have unfortunately dearth of information about the Islamic inclination trend there. Of course, the exception is the Muslim converts in Singapore whose extensive socio-cultural, educational, economic, and propagation activities are widely known in the region.[3] Besides, my wife has a personal Muslim Thai friend who was a Buddhist before embracing Islam... Apart from the facts-and-figures aspect, the other reason behind my choice of the Philippines is its peculiar status as the only Christian-dominated country (96% Christian and 5% Muslim)[4] in the whole continent of Asia .[5]
The Region
Historically, the denizens of Southeast Asia were introduced to Islam through mostly Sayyid[6] Arab and Persian traders, Sufis and/or missionaries who came to the region about 500 years ago. A certain Shaykh Ahmad Qummī from Persia introduced the Islamic faith to the people of Thailand . Arab sayyids preached Islam to the people of Indonesia , Malaysia , Brunei , and Southern Philippines , and laid the foundation of a socio-political institution called ‘Sultanate’.
As part of the global Islam ummah, Muslims of the region are also swept by the wave of global Islamic revival in the recent years. The existence of ABIM (Malaysian Islamic Youth Movement), PAS (Islamic Party of Malaysia) and the banned-Dār al-Arqām in Malaysia; Muhammadiyyah Movement, IJABI and the militant Lashkar-e Jihād in Indonesia; Muslim liberation fronts in southern Philippines; the Tablīgh-e Jamā‘at and in extremist and radical form, the Jamā‘at Islāmī and Abu Sayyaf groups in the entire region are obvious revivalist manifestations of Islam. Many factors for this phenomenon can be identified such as the increased contact of the Southeast Asian Muslims with other members of the Islamic ummah such as that of the Middle East through hajj pilgrimage and educational travels; events like the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, the OPEC oil embargo, and the Islamic Revolution in Iran; and the influence of Islamic political thoughts of such figures as Sayyid Qutb, Hasan al-Bannā, Abū’l-A‘lā Mawdūdī, Jamāluddīn Asadābādī, Muhammad ‘Abduh, Imām Khomeinī, ‘Alī Sharī‘atī, and Murtadā Mutahharī, among others.
Nature, Factors and Manifestations of the Trend
In the case of the Philippines , inclination-to-Islam trend demonstrates two levels. The first and lower level is the increasing non-Muslims’ proper understanding, and at times, even appreciation of Islam and/or the Muslims. The other and higher level of the Islamic inclination trend is the non-Muslims’ actual profession of Islam as their new religion.
The end of intense fighting in late 1970s between the Philippine army and the Moro fighters has provided an atmosphere of more frequent personal and social intercourse between Muslims and Christians.[7] Out of these interactions, some wounds and grievances are healed; biases and prejudices lessened; misconceptions and stereotyping buried; and a spirit of tolerance, understanding and accommodation has found its niche. Christians have realized for the first time that Islam is not a religion of violence; that jihād is not meant to force Islam down the throat of vanquished peoples; that true Muslims are people of morality and hygiene. They have understood better the basic precepts of Islam such that Jesus Christ is highly revered as a bona fide Prophet of God; that polygamy is not encouraged, just permitted and regulated; and that prophets of the Old Testament are acknowledged as well.
In consonance with the global trend in Islamic resurgence, another significant aspect is the influx of Islamic literatures dealing with comparative studies of Islam and Christianity in the country. These reading materials are dispatched by such foreign institutions as the Islamic Propagation Center International (Durban, South Africa),[8] Islamic Da‘wah Call and Guidance Office (Jeddah, Saudi Arabia), Aisha Begum Bawany Waqf (Karachi, Pakistan), World Assembly of Muslim Youth (Jeddah, Saudi Arabia),[9] and others.
These two factors are generally accounted for a phenomenal reversion to Islam of some Christians; among them are former learned men of Christianity such as priests, pastors, seminarians, catechists, and evangelists. This trend is true across the country from North to South. In the North, revert-Muslims are widely distributed in such areas as, inter alia, Pangasinan, Vigan, Baguio , Bulacan, and Batangas.[10] In the central part of the country an equally large number of reverts exists, particularly in Cebu .[11] According to Najeeb Razul (formerly Samuel Fernandez), a Christian turned-Islamic-televangelist of the Voice of Islam, from 1986 to 1995 the Balik-Islam movement has won the hearts of about 92,000 people to Islam.[12] Reversion took place individually, though at times collectively, say a family or so. Known as Balik-Islam (those who turned back to Islam), these revert-Muslims have formed various organizations; they are engaged in multifarious propagation activities: radio and TV programs; distribution of Islamic literatures and audio-video tapes; seminars, lectures and symposia; public inter-religious debates; preaching to prisoners and highlanders; and socio-economic services. The Glorious Qur’an has been first translated into Filipino and Cebuano (the most widely spoken regional language) by two former Christians who turned Muslims...
Recently, even in the cyberspace, the presence of the Balik-Islam can be felt. So far, among the most active, if not the most active website, is owned by the Fi Sabilillah Media Public Service, Inc. (FSMPSI) based in Manila . The website features, among others, its newsletter, Ang Pahayagan (The Publication), testimonies of some revert-Muslims on the circumstances surrounding their decision to embrace the new faith, which is Islam,[13] and the group’s Islamic perspectives and views on the basis of existing Philippine setting. The said public service media identifies its raison d’ être as answering the anti-Islamic propaganda, which it describes in this manner:
Various non-Muslim indoctrinators in the Philippines have all along employed their energies to destroy the true faith of tawhīd (having no doubt that there is only One God). They criticized Islam in order to establish incontestable claim to the naturalness of their religion. They are apt to mistranslate the Holy Qur’an and spread many misconceptions about Prophet Muhammad (s). They profusely manipulate print and broadcast media to serve their wicked desire to deceive multitudes of soul.[14]
As for the other websites maintained by Balik-Islam or revert-Muslims, we can cite the following: Islamic Information Center,[15] Jamaa’tu Balik-Islam,[16] Filipino Guide,[17] and the Sunnah Islamic Page Tagalog.[18]
News items mainly or partly dealing with these revert-Muslims and, at times, with the Philippine government’s concern over the alleged association of some of them with terrorist groups can be browsed in the Internet; for instance, the articles entitled, “The New Believers;”[19] “Troubled Return of the Faithful;”[20] “New ‘Back to Islam’ Movement Feared in Mindanao;”[21] “Government Struggles with ‘Hearts and Minds’ Campaign among Muslims;”[22] “Angry, Young Men (I);”[23] and “Police Prejudice against Muslims.”[24]
Future Prospects
Now, the question is—what future is awaiting this Islamic inclination trend in the Philippines ? If we try to take a keen scrutiny of the Qur’anic passage I have recited at the beginning of my speech, we will realize that in inviting people toward Islam two vital elements are involved, viz. the use of wisdom [hikmah] and logic [mantiq]—bi’l-hikmah wa’l-maw‘izati’l-hasana [with wisdom and beautiful preaching]—in order to win the minds and the sincere demonstration of excellent morality [akhlāq]—bi’l-latī hiya ahsan [in ways that are best and most gracious]—in order to win the hearts. Thus, as long as these two weapons for the heart and mind, i.e. hikmah and akhlāq are used, I can assure that, by the will of God, bright prospects lie ahead of the Islamization process among the non-Muslims in the Philippines . Who knows, one day these former Christians will teach Islam to the nominal or so-called born-Muslims in Mindanao who, day by day are wittingly or unwittingly going outside the ambit of Islam.
As Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly claims, “People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already; it fell on the day Muhammad (s) was born”. And in the language of the future world constitution:
Huwa’l-ladhī arsala Rasūlahu bil-hudā wa dīni’l-haqq . Liyuzhirahu ‘ala’d-dīni kulli wa lawkariha’l-mushrikūn
“It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religions, even though the Pagans may detest (it)." [Al-Qur’an 9:33]
Lastly, before I take my seat, let me convey a 1,400-year old divine warning and challenge to all of us Muslims:
Wa intatawallaw yastabdil qawman ghayrakum thumma lā yakūnu amthālakum.
“If ye turn your back (from the religion of God), He will place in your stead another people (to uphold the religion and hoist the banner of truth), and these people are not like you (in negligence and complacency).” [Al-Qur’an 47:38]
Was-salāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuh.
at www.CONVERTSTOISLAM.com
Inclination-to-Islam Trend in the Contemporary Southeast Asia: The Philippine Case*
By Mansoor L. Limba | Posted June 23, 2004
A‘ūdhū billāhi minash-Shaytānir-Rajīm . Bismillāhir-Rahmānir-Rahīm . Ud‘u ilā sabīli rabbika bi’l-hikmah wa’l-maw‘izati’l-hasana . Wa jādilhum bi’l-latī hiya ahsan .
“Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord, with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious!” [Al-Qur’an 16:125]
Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, sisters and brothers in faith as well as in humanity: As-salāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuh.
Introduction
Before embarking on the discussion proper, allow me to highlight some points, which I deem relevant and essential for my present talk. Firstly, the inclination-to-Islam trend or the non-Muslims’ conversion/reversion to Islam is undoubtedly an integral part of the Islamic awakening or resurgence, which revolves around the concepts of tajdīd [revival] and islāh [reform]. Secondly, the Islamic awakening or resurgence is a global phenomenon. Thirdly, a manifestation of Islamic revival in one place has direct or indirect, short-term or long-term impacts in the other parts of the world. Lastly, as an integral part of the Islamic awakening or resurgence phenomenon, the inclination-to-Islam trend among the non-Muslims the world over ought to be discussed and analyzed within the framework of the global Islamic resurgence.
Keeping in mind the aforementioned points as my hypotheses and guidelines, I will henceforth examine the inclination-to-Islam trend in the contemporary Southeast Asia , focusing on the Philippines . My choice of the inclination-to-Islam trend in the Philippines as the focal point is anchored on two (2) fundamental reasons. First, as what is well known to all of you, Southeast Asia is predominantly inhabited by Muslims; the number of Muslims in Indonesia alone, which is almost 202 million last year,[1] is slightly more than that of the Arab countries combined together.[2] As to the countries such as Thailand , Singapore , Burma ( Myanmar ), Vietnam , Laos , and Cambodia in which the dominant religion is Buddhism, I have unfortunately dearth of information about the Islamic inclination trend there. Of course, the exception is the Muslim converts in Singapore whose extensive socio-cultural, educational, economic, and propagation activities are widely known in the region.[3] Besides, my wife has a personal Muslim Thai friend who was a Buddhist before embracing Islam... Apart from the facts-and-figures aspect, the other reason behind my choice of the Philippines is its peculiar status as the only Christian-dominated country (96% Christian and 5% Muslim)[4] in the whole continent of Asia .[5]
The Region
Historically, the denizens of Southeast Asia were introduced to Islam through mostly Sayyid[6] Arab and Persian traders, Sufis and/or missionaries who came to the region about 500 years ago. A certain Shaykh Ahmad Qummī from Persia introduced the Islamic faith to the people of Thailand . Arab sayyids preached Islam to the people of Indonesia , Malaysia , Brunei , and Southern Philippines , and laid the foundation of a socio-political institution called ‘Sultanate’.
As part of the global Islam ummah, Muslims of the region are also swept by the wave of global Islamic revival in the recent years. The existence of ABIM (Malaysian Islamic Youth Movement), PAS (Islamic Party of Malaysia) and the banned-Dār al-Arqām in Malaysia; Muhammadiyyah Movement, IJABI and the militant Lashkar-e Jihād in Indonesia; Muslim liberation fronts in southern Philippines; the Tablīgh-e Jamā‘at and in extremist and radical form, the Jamā‘at Islāmī and Abu Sayyaf groups in the entire region are obvious revivalist manifestations of Islam. Many factors for this phenomenon can be identified such as the increased contact of the Southeast Asian Muslims with other members of the Islamic ummah such as that of the Middle East through hajj pilgrimage and educational travels; events like the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, the OPEC oil embargo, and the Islamic Revolution in Iran; and the influence of Islamic political thoughts of such figures as Sayyid Qutb, Hasan al-Bannā, Abū’l-A‘lā Mawdūdī, Jamāluddīn Asadābādī, Muhammad ‘Abduh, Imām Khomeinī, ‘Alī Sharī‘atī, and Murtadā Mutahharī, among others.
Nature, Factors and Manifestations of the Trend
In the case of the Philippines , inclination-to-Islam trend demonstrates two levels. The first and lower level is the increasing non-Muslims’ proper understanding, and at times, even appreciation of Islam and/or the Muslims. The other and higher level of the Islamic inclination trend is the non-Muslims’ actual profession of Islam as their new religion.
The end of intense fighting in late 1970s between the Philippine army and the Moro fighters has provided an atmosphere of more frequent personal and social intercourse between Muslims and Christians.[7] Out of these interactions, some wounds and grievances are healed; biases and prejudices lessened; misconceptions and stereotyping buried; and a spirit of tolerance, understanding and accommodation has found its niche. Christians have realized for the first time that Islam is not a religion of violence; that jihād is not meant to force Islam down the throat of vanquished peoples; that true Muslims are people of morality and hygiene. They have understood better the basic precepts of Islam such that Jesus Christ is highly revered as a bona fide Prophet of God; that polygamy is not encouraged, just permitted and regulated; and that prophets of the Old Testament are acknowledged as well.
In consonance with the global trend in Islamic resurgence, another significant aspect is the influx of Islamic literatures dealing with comparative studies of Islam and Christianity in the country. These reading materials are dispatched by such foreign institutions as the Islamic Propagation Center International (Durban, South Africa),[8] Islamic Da‘wah Call and Guidance Office (Jeddah, Saudi Arabia), Aisha Begum Bawany Waqf (Karachi, Pakistan), World Assembly of Muslim Youth (Jeddah, Saudi Arabia),[9] and others.
These two factors are generally accounted for a phenomenal reversion to Islam of some Christians; among them are former learned men of Christianity such as priests, pastors, seminarians, catechists, and evangelists. This trend is true across the country from North to South. In the North, revert-Muslims are widely distributed in such areas as, inter alia, Pangasinan, Vigan, Baguio , Bulacan, and Batangas.[10] In the central part of the country an equally large number of reverts exists, particularly in Cebu .[11] According to Najeeb Razul (formerly Samuel Fernandez), a Christian turned-Islamic-televangelist of the Voice of Islam, from 1986 to 1995 the Balik-Islam movement has won the hearts of about 92,000 people to Islam.[12] Reversion took place individually, though at times collectively, say a family or so. Known as Balik-Islam (those who turned back to Islam), these revert-Muslims have formed various organizations; they are engaged in multifarious propagation activities: radio and TV programs; distribution of Islamic literatures and audio-video tapes; seminars, lectures and symposia; public inter-religious debates; preaching to prisoners and highlanders; and socio-economic services. The Glorious Qur’an has been first translated into Filipino and Cebuano (the most widely spoken regional language) by two former Christians who turned Muslims...
Recently, even in the cyberspace, the presence of the Balik-Islam can be felt. So far, among the most active, if not the most active website, is owned by the Fi Sabilillah Media Public Service, Inc. (FSMPSI) based in Manila . The website features, among others, its newsletter, Ang Pahayagan (The Publication), testimonies of some revert-Muslims on the circumstances surrounding their decision to embrace the new faith, which is Islam,[13] and the group’s Islamic perspectives and views on the basis of existing Philippine setting. The said public service media identifies its raison d’ être as answering the anti-Islamic propaganda, which it describes in this manner:
Various non-Muslim indoctrinators in the Philippines have all along employed their energies to destroy the true faith of tawhīd (having no doubt that there is only One God). They criticized Islam in order to establish incontestable claim to the naturalness of their religion. They are apt to mistranslate the Holy Qur’an and spread many misconceptions about Prophet Muhammad (s). They profusely manipulate print and broadcast media to serve their wicked desire to deceive multitudes of soul.[14]
As for the other websites maintained by Balik-Islam or revert-Muslims, we can cite the following: Islamic Information Center,[15] Jamaa’tu Balik-Islam,[16] Filipino Guide,[17] and the Sunnah Islamic Page Tagalog.[18]
News items mainly or partly dealing with these revert-Muslims and, at times, with the Philippine government’s concern over the alleged association of some of them with terrorist groups can be browsed in the Internet; for instance, the articles entitled, “The New Believers;”[19] “Troubled Return of the Faithful;”[20] “New ‘Back to Islam’ Movement Feared in Mindanao;”[21] “Government Struggles with ‘Hearts and Minds’ Campaign among Muslims;”[22] “Angry, Young Men (I);”[23] and “Police Prejudice against Muslims.”[24]
Future Prospects
Now, the question is—what future is awaiting this Islamic inclination trend in the Philippines ? If we try to take a keen scrutiny of the Qur’anic passage I have recited at the beginning of my speech, we will realize that in inviting people toward Islam two vital elements are involved, viz. the use of wisdom [hikmah] and logic [mantiq]—bi’l-hikmah wa’l-maw‘izati’l-hasana [with wisdom and beautiful preaching]—in order to win the minds and the sincere demonstration of excellent morality [akhlāq]—bi’l-latī hiya ahsan [in ways that are best and most gracious]—in order to win the hearts. Thus, as long as these two weapons for the heart and mind, i.e. hikmah and akhlāq are used, I can assure that, by the will of God, bright prospects lie ahead of the Islamization process among the non-Muslims in the Philippines . Who knows, one day these former Christians will teach Islam to the nominal or so-called born-Muslims in Mindanao who, day by day are wittingly or unwittingly going outside the ambit of Islam.
As Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly claims, “People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already; it fell on the day Muhammad (s) was born”. And in the language of the future world constitution:
Huwa’l-ladhī arsala Rasūlahu bil-hudā wa dīni’l-haqq . Liyuzhirahu ‘ala’d-dīni kulli wa lawkariha’l-mushrikūn
“It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religions, even though the Pagans may detest (it)." [Al-Qur’an 9:33]
Lastly, before I take my seat, let me convey a 1,400-year old divine warning and challenge to all of us Muslims:
Wa intatawallaw yastabdil qawman ghayrakum thumma lā yakūnu amthālakum.
“If ye turn your back (from the religion of God), He will place in your stead another people (to uphold the religion and hoist the banner of truth), and these people are not like you (in negligence and complacency).” [Al-Qur’an 47:38]
Was-salāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuh.
http://www.convertstoislam.com/Articles/inclination.html
QUOTE (catman @ May 3 2009, 08:16 PM) 
Yeah, I don't think Islam promotes contraception.
They don't allow permanent methods like vasectomies or tubal ligations. Most will not use birth control pills. Unlike Catholics who have faith in the Holy Spirit providing protection Muslims will use permanent methods in the health of the mother may be endangered by pregnancy.
Family financial health is also considered a valid reason for birth control. In effect it is use birth control rather then be tempted to turn to crime to support an overlarge family.
In the end while they follow the Jewish and Christian tradition of be fruitful and multiply there is no equivalent to the devoout Catholic commiting a mortal sin if he or she does anything else but have unprotected penial/vaginal intercourse anytime any sexual activity starts with their spouse.
For some reason islam makes sense than christianity.....
QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Jun 5 2009, 08:23 PM)
if the philippines got islamized fully.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU73AbjPwEk...=response_watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU73AbjPwEk...=response_watch
I wasn't expecting a still screen
QUOTE (orient @ Jun 5 2009, 10:31 PM)
I wasn't expecting a still screen
the framing was slow sorry....
What we call as christianity today is a corruption of jesus' teaching by paul in short paulism....
QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Jun 5 2009, 07:23 PM)
For some reason islam makes sense than christianity.....
Well living in Iran it would make more sense. However in the Philippines you are comparing moderate Sunnis to Catholics who hold such a majority among Christians that only the fundamentalist among the various denominations are able to create their niche from the Catholic line from Rome as expressed by the political bishops.
In the end Christian's in the Philippine Church don't believe that you can figure it out for yourself, but rather it is up to the teaching body of church elders to tell you what is important from David's writtengs, Solomon's, Paul's, and what the Gospel writers said of Jesus. And by faith you are to accept and play your role in the grand scheme of things.
QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Jun 6 2009, 11:43 AM)
the framing was slow sorry....
What we call as christianity today is a corruption of jesus' teaching by paul in short paulism....
What we call as christianity today is a corruption of jesus' teaching by paul in short paulism....
Christianity is broad, so you can't really say Christianity as a whole is a corruption to Jesus'.
Also, how can they corrupt a teaching so simple? Wasn't it that Jesus was just saying his only rule was LOVE?
QUOTE (arriba @ May 2 2009, 06:59 AM)
Philippine population growth rate per region is highest in the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao. I am sure the people there do not follow the catholic church's teachings. This is despite the wars and food shortages.
The same pattern is true in other countries. The Palestinian population is increasing a lot faster than the Jewish population in Israel. This is why the Israelis were forced to have a two state solution. Not doing so would mean the Jews would be a minority in Israel very soon. Muslims in France are reproducing very fast that they will constitute 51% of the population by 2050, according to projections. Of course, this has to do with the low fertility rate of catholic french.
The same pattern is true in other countries. The Palestinian population is increasing a lot faster than the Jewish population in Israel. This is why the Israelis were forced to have a two state solution. Not doing so would mean the Jews would be a minority in Israel very soon. Muslims in France are reproducing very fast that they will constitute 51% of the population by 2050, according to projections. Of course, this has to do with the low fertility rate of catholic french.
not just the increase of population in ARMM but also the increase of of converts and the children of converts.
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Christianity is broad, so you can't really say Christianity as a whole is a corruption to Jesus'.
Also, how can they corrupt a teaching so simple? Wasn't it that Jesus was just saying his only rule was LOVE?
Also, how can they corrupt a teaching so simple? Wasn't it that Jesus was just saying his only rule was LOVE?
You should research more about christianity and the conspiracies about Paul's modifications in the scripture.
Offtopic:
We shared some of our views a few months ago,so you remind me of my self a few months ago.
^^ And the reason why we believe Paul's intervention in the scriptures was valid is because we believe he was touched by the Holy Spirit when he made that...well at least that's for a Roman Catholic like me.
QUOTE (philfighter @ Jun 25 2009, 12:55 PM)
^^ And the reason why we believe Paul's intervention in the scriptures was valid is because we believe he was touched by the Holy Spirit when he made that...well at least that's for a Roman Catholic like me.
God does not change or his laws that is a fact.
http://answering-christianity.com/abdullah...rist_paul_1.htm
QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Jun 26 2009, 10:36 AM)
God does not change or his laws that is a fact.
http://answering-christianity.com/abdullah...rist_paul_1.htm
http://answering-christianity.com/abdullah...rist_paul_1.htm
And the fact that you're not a Christian.
Tbh, how can you know that Paul did some revisions on the scriptures, you aint livin' at that time homie!
The only guy I know who changed some of the scriptures is Marcion who later made his own branch of Christianity
I assume that Christians in Europe are antichrists because they not circumsized so they are no following Jesus who is circumsized.
QUOTE (martin_nuke @ Jul 1 2009, 01:17 AM)
I assume that Christians in Europe are antichrists because they not circumsized so they are no following Jesus who is circumsized.
I suggest reading the NT, circumcision, along with dietary laws are mentioned specifically as no longer needed. As a Christian you are following a different set of rules then Jews or Muslims. A beter argument would have been changing the sabbath from Saturday to Sunday to celebrate the ressurection.
QUOTE (Patton @ Jul 1 2009, 07:31 PM)
I suggest reading the NT, circumcision, along with dietary laws are mentioned specifically as no longer needed. As a Christian you are following a different set of rules then Jews or Muslims. A beter argument would have been changing the sabbath from Saturday to Sunday to celebrate the ressurection.
agreed. It was discussed between Peter and Paul in which Paul prevailed.
Before Islam majority of the middle easterns were Maronites, Aramaics, Armenians, Melkites and Orthodox which are middle eastern Christianity and many of them converted into Islam by force but many of the middle eastern Christianity still survives until today.
http://www.peacefaq.com/christians.html
Catholic is Christianity but Christianity is not Catholic and that is the big difference so Christianity is really broad.
Imagine that Jesus made many thousands or miracles (healing the sick, reviving the dead, resurrection, etc...) while Moses did the Red Sea miracle and Mohamed just did the splitting the moon miracle.
1. Did Moses killed anyone? Yes, his half brother and probably thousands who drowned in the Red Sea miracle.
2. Did Mohamed killed anyone? Yes, he killed thousands and mostly are middle eastern christians.
3. Did Jesus killed anyone? No.
Who is indeed the greatest?
http://www.peacefaq.com/christians.html
Catholic is Christianity but Christianity is not Catholic and that is the big difference so Christianity is really broad.
Imagine that Jesus made many thousands or miracles (healing the sick, reviving the dead, resurrection, etc...) while Moses did the Red Sea miracle and Mohamed just did the splitting the moon miracle.
1. Did Moses killed anyone? Yes, his half brother and probably thousands who drowned in the Red Sea miracle.
2. Did Mohamed killed anyone? Yes, he killed thousands and mostly are middle eastern christians.
3. Did Jesus killed anyone? No.
Who is indeed the greatest?
you mean the greatest is the one who killed the highest number of enemies?
that would be a healthy arab or japanese view point..
that would be a healthy arab or japanese view point..
QUOTE (martin_nuke @ Jul 1 2009, 04:17 AM)
I assume that Christians in Europe are antichrists because they not circumsized so they are no following Jesus who is circumsized.
Are you kidding me? Maybe you're the antichrist because you assume and make up stuff without reading the Bible.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%2015
And also your Pope is a European who probably didn't get his snipped, so you're telling me you're whole religion is antichrist?
And most people aren't doing what Jesus did, including getting nailed on the cross they must all be antichrist. You'd think a guy who taught about God's mercy would have his followers believe that having foreskin in his penis would be okay as long as he does God's work. But then again...
QUOTE (flipcombatmedic @ Aug 10 2009, 09:12 AM)
Are you kidding me? Maybe you're the antichrist because you assume and make up stuff without reading the Bible.
That was the assumption of what Suzuka posted.
Circumcision is actually a Jewish ritual not Christian. Jesus was circumsized because he is a Jew.
QUOTE (NeoVxR @ Aug 10 2009, 06:35 AM)
you mean the greatest is the one who killed the highest number of enemies?
that would be a healthy arab or japanese view point..
that would be a healthy arab or japanese view point..
Jesus became great and had many followers without killing anyone and that is the greatest of them all. Buddha also did the same but not as great as Jesus.
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