"oh look at me, I'm the doe-eyed handsome American who shows up in a Japanese town and I learn the fighting skills of the samurai in a matter of months that took many Japanese men an entire lifetime to attain. I ride into battle with the honorable samurai and all of them get annihilated except me, for I am the last samurai. Then now that all the menfolk are gone, I get the Japanese girl and free her from her male oppressors."

what stupid crap. In these type of movies, the white guy is always portrayed as a romantic warrior who gets the girl and the Asian men are portrayed as cold but honorable and almost asexual warriors who only care about fighting.

One~Stop-fu-king-Whineing.
Two~He was NOT the last samurai. Do you even know the BACKGROUND to the movie? The true story? Do you know that Samurai also means MORE THAN ONE?
"The Last Samurai" has to do with the last group of Samurai men who rebelled against the "new western ways"to keep the old ways of the Samurai alive.
Three~Tom Cruse did a good job in the movie. He wasn't the last samurai. Never say or think that again.
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Before you whine about a outstanding movie go and look up information on the meaning of the title and the movie.

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You're so immature.

Tell me about it.
Makeing idiot remarks about a great movie.><

eh, i wouldn't say it's a GREAT movie. he did point out the huge number of flaws in that movie (save for the last samurai part). you wanna see a good samurai movie? watch "seven samurai". "the last samurai" was american produced, and once again, they have failed to make movies based on foreign places just like "enemy at the gates"

....I've seen "Seven Samurai".
I couldn't call myself a true Samurai freak if I haven't.
No movie is "perfect", but "The Last Samurai" showed the final rebellion of the Samurai really well.
Really..I get tired of people judgeing movies and not knowing anything of the history behind them..-.-
Some things had to be added to spice the movie up.
That's how hollywood works.
Do you know how Katsumoto really died?In history I mean.
He was shot in the privites..then commited seppuku in front of the emperors castle thanks to his really close friend dragging him there.
Kinda dull huh?
So some things had to be changed to make the movie alot better to watch.
Yes, Nathan Algren never really 'lived', but he was added again to make the movie more fun to watch.

Hooray to repeat topics!

It's a stupid movie and as usual, Americans are portrayed as heroic and $hit.

I'd like to know when Tom Cruse's character was portrayed as a 'Hero'.
Just because he didn't die doesn't mean this.
In reality the 'Hero' of the movie is Katsumoto and the other Samurai who died with him.
His death showed the emperor what the true meaning of what his rebellion was really about.
And like one of the final lines of the movie said:
"Will you tell me how he died?"
"No, but I will tell you how he lived."

I would have like the movie more if Tom Cruise die at the end of the battle along with every other Samurai....

Eh doesn't matter much with me, and I found the final part of the movie with those final lines about how he will tell him how he lived was nice.

if there's any japan produced film explaining this event, i'm 100% sure it is better

I thought it was a great movie
I don't hate the movie just because it had an American in it and was a Hollywood movie because that's what you shouldn't focus on.

God thank you.*lol*
Someone relizes this with me.x.x



Yet, there really isn't a movie made in japan about this event.
So why complain about this movie?
It didn't focus right off the main history of the event, which made it a good movie.

but its so fu-king typical, the movie.

the asian men are all portrayed as warriors who oppress women.

and the american is the sensitive, kind man who treats women with respect and is great with the kids.

and in the end, all the asian men die in bloody battle and the american man gets the asian girl.

hmm, i just thought of something that might be wrong, but w/e. since the movie is titled "the last samurai" and the word samurai is both singular and plural, would the movie titled really mean that it is the last group of samurai, all whom are trying to keep the samurai tradition? wild guess but whatever

oops, double post

God...why I bother I don't know..
Read up..just read.><
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Back then Japanese men didn't act like Tom Cruse's character.
Yes, they were respectful towards women, but again they never truely showed it.
Like how some Asian fathers don't show emotion to their sons untill something truely pushes them too.
The men protected the village, fought for their family and village , etc.
The women cooked, farmed, took care of the kids, cleaned, etc.
This is how it was back then.
Back then the Fathers(who were samurai) would train their children at young ages to become a samurai as well.
Note: When the two kids were doing 'kendo'.
Young, and yet training like their fathers.
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Yes, they all die at the end because THAT'S WHAT HAPPEND IN HISTORY.
The final showdown.
Read up.
Every samurai was killed in that bloody battle.
It was eaither die by the enemy or by their own hands.
They couldn't face defeat thus-Seppuku.



Exactly man.
You got it.*nod*
"The Last Samurai" means the final battle of Samurai who died in a bloody battle to try and keep the old ways.
If you could check this book out: http://www.emory.edu/HISTORY/RAVINA/lastsamurai.html

It was a horrible movie.

Hollywood storytelling of other cultures is too patronizing.

Detune wasn't talking about the entertaining part of this movie, if you got brains and read for a change, he is referring to the stereotype in the movie. White man the hero, while the asian man is either the sidekick or the enemy. And didn't the japanese women/White man combo played itself out too much in the history of the fricken human race? We should of had a white chick be the samurai and some japanese heroin bang her in the movie.

"if you got brains and read for a change" If YOU had brains and read you would see my post on how his character was not the 'Hero".><
Just shut it and read every post before you post.
Let alone I doubt you know anything on the history behind the movie.

Hero > Last Samurai, although both films are pretty bad

All I am reading is complaining about because 'Americans' made the movie and it was made in 'hollywood' then it must be a 'horrible' movie.
Yet, it did very well in japan alone.
They made a big effort and did a good job sticking to the history of 'The Last Samurai'.
If they did so 'bad' then let's see what you people can pull together.
Really go ahead.
You guys know a hell alot more.
Americans 'suck' so come on guys make a better movie which includes spice, yet sticks with the historical event.

ok... I got a question... is it normal for a Samurai widow wife to remarried?

That's a good question.
I don't think they would.
I should check on that...first time I heard a question like that.*lol*
Now it will bug me till I find out.x.x

I enjoyed this movie very much.

ok first off the movie was a great film that i and many of my ASIAN friends seemed to enjoy.

i think your being foolish for saying it's stereo typing blah blah blah. look at me im pissed off just because a white guy was a 'hero'.
well i got news for you, did it ever occur to you that the BAD guy was white also?
well? geez you might as well ramage about why the sky is blue and the ocean is too.

i'd also like to mention that the japanese men may have seemed cold hearted but why do we see that? BECAUSE IT'S IN TOM CRUISE'S PERCEPTION!
omg man it was racist times back then! of course the japanese are going to seem cold hearted towards Tom in the movie. so stop being so naive.

you really lack common sence to have not seen that. It's as if your asking to see an old Hitler movie though instead of Hitler killing jews you want to see him dinning with them.

Also Tom may have learn't the way of the samurai but in the movie did it ever say he mastered it? DUH! he never said that. you are just presumming that.

i also might like to add that in a lot of ASIAN movies WHITES are normally shown as the evil villian and etc. Though i bet you don't see a problem with that do you?

bah watch some real samurai movies. 7 samurai, yojimbo, sanjuro, red beard, hidden fortress, ran, heaven and earth, the samurai trilogy, zaitoichi, lone wolf and cub. Anything with Toshiro Mifune is gold!

No, because asian countries are homegenous while the USA is not.

I've watched all of them, and enjoyed them, but I include 'The Last Samurai' in there also.
There was more meaning to the movie which many people are to blinded with 'hate' to see.

lol well of course this movie sucked. Too much hollywood bull$hit. It was such a cheesy movie.

I'm surprised they didn't show some trivial sex or nudity scene with the lead female character. It would have been a Hollywood thing to do.

someone sounds jealous

it's fiction my friend. it just so happened to be written that way. i thought it was a good movie. the fights scenes were pretty cool but they could have added taka's naked scene or something. i thought she was really beautiful.

where are u getting that the japanese woman actually liked tom

to my recolection she said something along the lines of "he disgusts me"

why u so mad?

its because as usual, the hollywood stereotype of an asian woman is someone who is very sexually attractive but demure and bashful at the same time. the "innocence" factor.

another stereotype in the movie.

well, he may not have been as good as the other samurai but let me remind you, he did kick 5 samurai's @$$ in that fight scene with the swords.

that pretty much shows he's got it down pat. and how long did it take him? a few months?

its ridiculous.

STUPID! THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED THE LAST SAMURAI!! HE IS STILL ALIVE

Terrible movie, full of Hollywood heroism as usual. The scene where Tom Cruise happened to be the only survivor and all the soldiers are bowing down around him to pay their respects to Katsumoto, was one of the cheesiest and lamest I've seen in a long time. It was supposed to be a serious, tear-jerking scene, but I ended up laughing my @$$ off at this corny, over-exaggerated, most unlikely portryal of events.

...You need to shut up.
This is not why it's called "The Last Samurai".
Samurai can mean one and many.
The movie is about the last rebellion of the Samurai to keep the old ways alive.
Think before you talk.

You really are obsessed about Japan. Are you even Japanese?

Or are you another one of the many Asian people who is a Japanese wannabe?

I am obsessed and proud of it.
Does it matter if I am japanese or not?
Sadly, alot of japanese people don't know a thing about their homelands past.
I don't wanna be 'japanese' because I am happy the way I am.
I am white/korean(more white than korean).
Say what you want, but I am proud of what I know and learned from a culture I love.

You don't speak Japanese, so what's the point

Yes I do.
I speak basic japanese.
Thus, why I am going to study in japan next year as an exchange student to learn more.(The class requires me to know basic japanese before I can go there)

Your love for Japan, like a lot of people's supposed "love" for Japan, is misplaced. You are not in love with Japan but a romantic image of image formed from stereotypes, your own imagination and some reality.

If you love Japan so much, why don't you love China?

Can you answer me this question? Do me a favor and answer it.

What is it about Japan you love and why don't you have the same love for China or any other asian country?

Or even better, why don't you love Korea as much as you love Japan?

I love japan for it's culture and history.
I've studied the history of the Samurai and will get more studies in about them during my year as an exchange student.
I love the food.
Alot of people love diffrent areas for the food, I love japanese food.
I am heading for a carrer as an animator.
For years I loved Japanese animation and mangas.
Note: I have since the begining of middleschool. Now i'm a freshmen in college
Why don't I like other countrys like japan?
I don't know.
I just have a big love of japan because of the reasons above.
I can ask you many questions as well.
Why do you care?
Why do you whine about little things?
I mean really.
Do you like picking at little things?
I explained my side very well on why I love and want to live in japan.
Why don't I like Korea as much?
Well, I have personal reasons.
One being my grandmothers family disowned her because she loved an american and had a half and half son(my father).
So why should I love an area like that after what they did to my grandmother?
Personal reasons.

I won't be surprised that when you go to Japan, it won't be as you dreamed it to be.

Seriously most japanese wannabe know basic japanese such as ohayoo gozaimasu! ogenki desu ka? watashi wa amerikajin desu.

True, but I do know more.
I have to or I can't get into this study abroud program.><
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DetunedRadio:

I faced many people like you.
I know I will have a great time over there and enjoy every min. of it.
Nothing is stopping me from going.
Nothing.
And really I careless what you think.
This has been a dream of mine, and again nothing is stopping me.