I been looking into a lot of classical instrument lately and this particular intrument caught my attention. I noticed this piece of instrutment is widely used in Thailand. But then I noticed that the Khmer also have the same instrument. So it got me thinking, was this instrument part of the Khmer royal court that the Thai(Siamese) adopted?

Thai http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQ4ObfAHFY...feature=related Khmer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c392n4QQJag

Any experts here know about Classical Khmer and Thai instruments feel free to add to this topic.

The raneak comes from the Mahori ensamble.

Khmer Mahori and its Thai counterpart, the intruments. names of the intruments are alike, the only difference are the musicians and the compositions.

Khmer Mahori is alway grander, the flow is more harmonius, and Thai Mahori sounds a bit irratic.

Do you people in Cambodia and Thailand have these instruments???



Khon Kalorn (Brahmins) in Perak playing the Nobat instruments in Royal Court



This one is in Kedah

Used in Martial Art Music, also in Shadow play in our region

Northern School Drums



A complete group of instruments



Pi Nai in Kelantan



Old School Pi Nai

Hi Sono.
Paktai song (Pattani dhigi hulu ลิเกฮูลู ปัตตานี)
Faag Jai pai bann. Ost. Thai drama Nuer Sai Tai Pha
ฝากใจไปบ้าน Ost.เหนือทรายใต้ฟ้า




Thai drama เหนือทรายใต้ฟ้า Nuer Sai Tai Pha
Enjoy....

It was originally a Chinese instrument. The Tai people adopted this instrument and migrated from China to Southeast Asia where they teached the Khmer to play the Khim.

So are you people saying, Khim is another thai Classical Instrument.

khmer instrument is a mixture of native khmer & khmer modified foreign instruments. some khmer like the khmer essan have adopted the lao khaen. over 2000 years ago traders from india & china came to cambodia. they introduced their musical instruments to local khmer. khmer folks modified them & played them to suit khmer music. when khmer were hindu/brahman we played khmer modified indian instruments to perform hindu base religious dances, rituals etc....

k'ang t'ai was a chinese ambassador to nakor panom ( funan) in some of his chinese court documents. it's noted that in 263ad a group of khmer musicians from nakor panom (funan) visited china. the chinese emperor was so impressed he ordered the establishment of an institution for khmer music near nanking. khmer music back in those days must of been some good stuff to impress the chinese emperor.

sonofgunongjerai:

this is khmer sralai or what you call old school pi nai



the pi nai kelantan look like the malay serunai

@Umm2008, thanks for Paktai song, that's cool!!!

Some musical instruments historians in our country said that old school Pi Nai was originated from Syria before introduced in India and brought into SEA. Old school Pi Nai was used in Kedah, which is my hometown, the people there then modified it into Northern School Pi Nai which resemble the Kelantan Pi Nai but slightly short.

Pipa was originally musical instruments of Barbarians brought into China from Central Asia I think. Khim seems like Pipa.

Sompoton, a traditional music instrument of Kadazan natives in Sabah, Borneo part of Malaysia



A Kadazan guy playing Sompoton



What do you think???

Afghan and Persian Robab in comparison with Kelantanese Robab



Rebab is used in Mak Yong Theatrical Play in Kelantan, it is originated from Patani Palace Play of 16th C

Muaythai also use this similar kind of instrument we called it Pee Chava( Pee Java) and Grong Kheag( Indian drum). Did you use that in Punjak Srirat, too? I'm interested.

Oh yes, we use them in both martial art, Muaythai and Penjak Silat. We also use them in Nang Thalung, Mak Yong and Me Mulong theater as well. Those instruments only used in Kedah and Kelantan Penjak Silat but not in Indonesian Penjak Silat, Indonesian Penjak Silat is prominent in Southern States of Malaysia. They use Gamelan, and their music style is different. Grong Kheag we call it as Gandang Khling, yes it is Indian drum.

Here are Javanese Musical Instruments (Gamelan) and their Niyogo (Drummers), they use to play those instruments in their Penjak Silat, Shadow Play (Wayang), and other traditional and ritual dances.

Thanks for the info...

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