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KT80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLIueHv0oQ

better hurry if anyone wants to see the fight.......probrably will be deleted soon.....


i thought AA was doing well ......landed some heavy shots.....until he rush in and got nailed.....but then again this is fedor........
YourMuDoIsWeak
Its olny a lucky punch if you lose lolololol.
MK4U
Hell no, dude. Lucky punch my @ss. Fedor saw it coming a mile away. Watch the replay. Also, I agree that Arlovski was winning the round via landing more shots, but he didn't land anything significant. Look at Fedor's face, there's not one scratch on him. Also, if you watch the fight in slow motion, none of Arlovski's shots landed. It just grazed Fedor's face. Even if Arlovski didn't try the flying knee, he would have been TKO/KOed or submitted in the later rounds. It was just inevitable.

Hi Tone
first thing that popped into my mind was lucky shot
Click
QUOTE(MK4U @ Jan 26 2009, 03:51 PM) [snapback]4102822[/snapback]
Hell no, dude. Lucky punch my @ss. Fedor saw it coming a mile away. Watch the replay. Also, I agree that Arlovski was winning the round via landing more shots, but he didn't land anything significant. Look at Fedor's face, there's not one scratch on him. Also, if you watch the fight in slow motion, none of Arlovski's shots landed. It just grazed Fedor's face. Even if Arlovski didn't try the flying knee, he would have been TKO/KOed or submitted in the later rounds. It was just inevitable.

I disagree, I knew you were one of Fedors nuthugger (I am a fan btw) but come on Arlovski was landing 1,2s and it was obvious that in some occasions, Fedor got rocked. He was in trouble, dont tell me he wasnt cos it was obvious embarassedlaugh.gif. Arlovski just got cocky and careless knowing he rocked Fedor and wanted to look exciting with his win and threw some stupid flying knee and got countered. I think Arlovski's boxing has improved alot, he just need to stick on his game plan. He should be able to knock Fedor out in a rematch, only if he stays calm and box from the outside.

Btw, I don't believe in lucky punch, that was just a well-timed punch by Fedor.
Hi Tone
you can believe whatever you want but then there's reality
YourMuDoIsWeak
Fedor isnt even human he is a fu-king machine.
Sonofvisayas
QUOTE(YourMuDoIsWeak @ Jan 26 2009, 06:35 PM) [snapback]4103067[/snapback]
Fedor isnt even human he is a fu-king machine.

Lol he looked very human to me against Arlovski. He just got lucky he landed that over hand right.
MK4U
QUOTE(Click @ Jan 26 2009, 01:14 PM) [snapback]4102855[/snapback]
I disagree, I knew you were one of Fedors nuthugger (I am a fan btw) but come on Arlovski was landing 1,2s and it was obvious that in some occasions, Fedor got rocked. He was in trouble, dont tell me he wasnt cos it was obvious embarassedlaugh.gif. Arlovski just got cocky and careless knowing he rocked Fedor and wanted to look exciting with his win and threw some stupid flying knee and got countered. I think Arlovski's boxing has improved alot, he just need to stick on his game plan. He should be able to knock Fedor out in a rematch, only if he stays calm and box from the outside.

Btw, I don't believe in lucky punch, that was just a well-timed punch by Fedor.


Nuthugger? Please. Yes I am a huge fan of Fedor, but I give credit when it is due. Arlovski did come in with a solid game plan, but he did get cocky and tried for a BS flying knee. If you watch the Affliction Event pre-fight interview, Fedor states that he really doesn't have a game plan. He just says he's going to feel him out and capitalize on his mistakes which is exactly what Fedor did.

Dude, I thought Fedor was getting dominated too. Watch the fight in slow motion and you'll see that none of the punches did any damage. However, Arlovski did land solid leg kicks and kept a good pace. The punch you were referring to didn't even hit him in the face! It hit him in the chest and threw him off balance. You have to watch the fight over and over again. I've watch the fight at least 10 times in real time and slow-mo. Take a look at the animated gifs made by Sherdog posters. Take a look at the pictures in Sherdog. Take a look at Fedor's face after the fight.

I doubt that Fedor is getting knocked out by Arlovski in the 2nd match. Besides, it could easily go to the ground as well next time around.
MK4U
QUOTE(Sonofvisayas @ Jan 26 2009, 05:38 PM) [snapback]4103196[/snapback]
Lol he looked very human to me against Arlovski. He just got lucky he landed that over hand right.


No way that was luck. He timed it when he threw the punch. You can even see his face in the pics. He had his eyes were open the whole time and of course, he had the same blank stare in his face.
mofo
andrei was doing good, but his lack of mental discipline cost him..
u can throw a flying knee in that position against a c level fighter..but u can't do that against fedor, a few minutes into the 1st round..fedor wasn't even hurt, so there was no reason to throw that flying knee other than to be flashy.

don't do stupid $hit like that against fedor, you'll pay for it.

fedor was good. he let andrei think he was controlling and winning the fight.
indacut
BucketHead
^ Sup mofo! Wtf happened to mmalinker.com??!!
Dim_Sum_4_U
It's not really luck, just two people thinking separate thoughts. I thought AA was going for a flying knee when I first saw it but then again, it looked like a little hop. I hope he was trying for a glitch and then a fast knee to follow it up but who knows? I mean in basketball, if your guarding someone, he could be thinking of driving to your left and you might be thinking hes going to your right. Props to Fedor though and I'm glad this lasted more than 1 min haha. Hopefully his next fight will last more than 1 round? Btw the rest of the fight card wasn't that bad.
BucketHead
Anyone gotta link???
alleyezonme
It was just a good KO.

I guess some of you guys know nothing about boxing.

There is a style where you back up let your opponent hit you with punches and then when he shifts his balance you capitalise on the moment to knock him out.

Basically when you step from one foot onto another your temporarily compromising your balance so if your opponent has good timing and accuracy he can capitalise on that moment to knock you out. Muhammad Ali used to capitalise on these flaws against his opponents all the time catching them in that split second they were unbalanced.

One of the best knockouts I've ever seen just pure genius.
Sonofvisayas
It was one of Fedor's lucky night. The reason why Arlovski threw that knee was that he thought Fedor was going for the take down. Arlovski tried to counter what he thought was a take down attempt with a knee but didnt see that punch coming and punches that you don't see are the ones that knock fighters out. If Fedor missed that over right hand, for sure it would have been a different story if that knee landed.
alleyezonme
QUOTE(Sonofvisayas @ Jan 28 2009, 02:48 AM) [snapback]4104438[/snapback]
It was one of Fedor's lucky night. The reason why Arlovski threw that knee was that he thought Fedor was going for the take down. Arlovski tried to counter what he thought was a take down attempt with a knee but didnt see that punch coming and punches that you don't see are the ones that knock fighters out. If Fedor missed that over right hand, for sure it would have been a different story if that knee landed.


LOL so he tried to defend a takedown with a knee? WTF is this street fighter?

Arlovski is a sambo champion and has grade A takedown defense only a retard would defend a takedown with a knee.

And the saying is "The punches that hurt the most are the ones you don't see coming."

It's not a factual statement either it's one that was made up by a writer many decades ago and is more of a general saying than something that is a fact a punch you don't see will hurt you as much as punch you do see coming from a logistical point of view.

Plus that knee would have done no damage at all a horizontal knee can cause problems but a vertical knee does nearly no damage that knee was a joke Arlovski himself said it was a mistake.

Dude stop watching Kung Fu movies and start watching MMA.
Sonofvisayas
QUOTE(alleyezonme @ Jan 27 2009, 09:57 PM) [snapback]4104448[/snapback]
LOL so he tried to defend a takedown with a knee? WTF is this street fighter?

Arlovski is a sambo champion and has grade A takedown defense only a retard would defend a takedown with a knee.

And the saying is "The punches that hurt the most are the ones you don't see coming."

It's not a factual statement either it's one that was made up by a writer many decades ago and is more of a general saying than something that is a fact a punch you don't see will hurt you as much as punch you do see coming from a logistical point of view.

Plus that knee would have done no damage at all a horizontal knee can cause problems but a vertical knee does nearly no damage that knee was a joke Arlovski himself said it was a mistake.

Dude stop watching Kung Fu movies and start watching MMA.

Did i say he tried to defend a takedown? I said he tried to counter it, dude i've seen this done so many times and when it's done properly and when it lands, its a sure knock out.

Example at 0:12
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=_tuAKLPgIzc&...feature=related

Nah I'm all about Muay Thai and boxing..MMA maybe when nothing else is on.
alleyezonme
QUOTE(Sonofvisayas @ Jan 28 2009, 03:34 AM) [snapback]4104510[/snapback]
Did i say he tried to defend a takedown? I said he tried to counter it, dude i've seen this done so many times and when it's done properly and when it lands, its a sure knock out.

Example at 0:12
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=_tuAKLPgIzc&...feature=related

Nah I'm all about Muay Thai and boxing..MMA maybe when nothing else is on.


In that fight the guy who got knocked out with the knee was already on his way down he practically fell onto the knee so that wasn't even a knee knock out he was already fu-ked up before he went down.

Also do you remember when Wanderlei Silva fought Rampage Jackson and he kneed him dozens of times in the head for about a minute? He couldn't knock him down for ages a sure knock out is BS they fought twice and Wanderlei Silva had Rampage Jackson in that position in both fights kneeing his head. He did damage but there was no instant knock out.

I've been watching MMA for years now man and let me tell you Fedor is known for his timing that punch was timed well and it was a knock out.
Sonofvisayas
QUOTE(alleyezonme @ Jan 27 2009, 10:46 PM) [snapback]4104538[/snapback]
In that fight the guy who got knocked out with the knee was already on his way down he practically fell onto the knee so that wasn't even a knee knock out he was already fu-ked up before he went down.

Also do you remember when Wanderlei Silva fought Rampage Jackson and he kneed him dozens of times in the head for about a minute? He couldn't knock him down for ages a sure knock out is BS they fought twice and Wanderlei Silva had Rampage Jackson in that position in both fights kneeing his head. He did damage but there was no instant knock out.

I've been watching MMA for years now man and let me tell you Fedor is known for his timing that punch was timed well and it was a knock out.

Exactly, this was not the case for Arlovski since he was stopped dead on track with a right hand.

Silva's knees from muy thai clinch werent landing, most of them were block by Rampage but did some damage only the later ones that really connected and we all know what happened.

Not taken anthing away from Fedor but all I'm saying is if he didnt land that overhand right and that knee landed, could have been a different story. Hence people here says it was "luck" and i agree in some degree.

Good job in watching MMA for years but I suggest you try train in it to get fighters' perspective when watching a match.
MK4U
QUOTE(Sonofvisayas @ Jan 28 2009, 05:35 AM) [snapback]4105084[/snapback]
Exactly, this was not the case for Arlovski since he was stopped dead on track with a right hand.

Silva's knees from muy thai clinch werent landing, most of them were block by Rampage but did some damage only the later ones that really connected and we all know what happened.

Not taken anthing away from Fedor but all I'm saying is if he didnt land that overhand right and that knee landed, could have been a different story. Hence people here says it was "luck" and i agree in some degree.

Good job in watching MMA for years but I suggest you try train in it to get fighters' perspective when watching a match.


What's with this "IF" stuff? If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

The fact of the matter is that he DID land the punch and it wasn't luck. He aimed it perfectly. Fedor played possum and Arlovski thought he had the fight in the bag. Like I said watch it in slow motion starting with the push kick. As soon as Fedor bounced off the rope, it cocked the right-hand and was ready for an opening.

"Luck" is when a person blindly lands a shot. In this case you can see that Fedor was aiming with his EYES open. As alleyezonme said Fedor is known for his accuracy and timing, not just standing up, but even in GnP.

He even called it before the fight. He said "I really don't have any strategy. I'm just going to feel him out and capitalize on his mistakes."
KT80
the reason why some people including myself think that was a lucky punch because ...fedor isn't a knockout puncher ...........AA was out cold before he hit the deck .......correct me if i am wrong but near 30 fights.......i don't think i have seen fedor KO somebody like that with one punch .......
YourMuDoIsWeak
QUOTE(KT80 @ Jan 28 2009, 07:56 PM) [snapback]4105771[/snapback]
the reason why some people including myself think that was a lucky punch because ...fedor isn't a knockout puncher ...........AA was out cold before he hit the deck .......correct me if i am wrong but near 30 fights.......i don't think i have seen fedor KO somebody like that with one punch .......

tis simple
Russia > Poland
Fedor> AA
Lenovo
How is Fedor lucky? Arlovski fought Tim Sylvia twice and loss both times. So Fedor beats Sylvia's @$$ in 36 seconds, what makes anyone think that Arlovski can beat him?

Remember that Fedor isn't always ground and pound early on and has been slow early on in plenty of fights. He's even taken significant damage and still won. Remember Randleman?

This picture speaks for Fedor:
YourMuDoIsWeak
QUOTE(Lenovo @ Jan 28 2009, 10:11 PM) [snapback]4106044[/snapback]
How is Fedor lucky? Arlovski fought Tim Sylvia twice and loss both times. So Fedor beats Sylvia's @$$ in 36 seconds, what makes anyone think that Arlovski can beat him?

Remember that Fedor isn't always ground and pound early on and has been slow early on in plenty of fights. He's even taken significant damage and still won. Remember Randleman?

This picture speaks for Fedor:

Fedor is a giant killer man look at what he did to choi it was fu-king pretty.
MK4U
QUOTE(KT80 @ Jan 28 2009, 04:56 PM) [snapback]4105771[/snapback]
the reason why some people including myself think that was a lucky punch because ...fedor isn't a knockout puncher ...........AA was out cold before he hit the deck .......correct me if i am wrong but near 30 fights.......i don't think i have seen fedor KO somebody like that with one punch .......


I don't know I'm gonna go with Sylvia's word before yours. To quote Sylvia, he said "Fedor hits hard. I don't think I've ever been hit that hard before. I don't even think he's human."

Take it from the guy who actually got into the ring with Fedor. He hits hard.

Besides, Fedor's strategy is to knock people down and submit them. Watch his fight against Fujita, Sylvia, Herring, Naoya, etc.
KT80
QUOTE(MK4U @ Jan 30 2009, 05:53 PM) [snapback]4108803[/snapback]
I don't know I'm gonna go with Sylvia's word before yours. To quote Sylvia, he said "Fedor hits hard. I don't think I've ever been hit that hard before. I don't even think he's human."

Take it from the guy who actually got into the ring with Fedor. He hits hard.

Besides, Fedor's strategy is to knock people down and submit them. Watch his fight against Fujita, Sylvia, Herring, Naoya, etc.


the point is.....fedor isn't mike tyson .....i don't doubt he hits hard but he isn't a knock out puncher.....if that was the case he would have plenty of KO wins.........
YourMuDoIsWeak
all it takes is a punch to to right place man hit the button and your out, its like how a kick to the neck can KO a guy aswell.
KT80
QUOTE(YourMuDoIsWeak @ Jan 31 2009, 10:47 AM) [snapback]4109748[/snapback]
all it takes is a punch to to right place man hit the button and your out, its like how a kick to the neck can KO a guy aswell.

right....dude..if it was that easy ......every fighter would have KOs............u are forgetting some guys can't be knock out no matter how hard u hit them ......
Lenovo
QUOTE(KT80 @ Jan 31 2009, 10:43 PM) [snapback]4110561[/snapback]
right....dude..if it was that easy ......every fighter would have KOs............u are forgetting some guys can't be knock out no matter how hard u hit them ......

It isnt easy but glass jaws are real. Theres plenty of examples in UFC. It's a fight and fighters are defending their heads, a good square hit is hard to get and often is a glancing shot or just a jab. You get someone good in the temple and he's dazed and you move on him or get him square in the jaw and he'll go down. It's harder than it looks but it happens. Look at Arlovski for example.
2nd2none
QUOTE(Lenovo @ Jan 29 2009, 12:11 PM) [snapback]4106044[/snapback]
How is Fedor lucky? Arlovski fought Tim Sylvia twice and loss both times. So Fedor beats Sylvia's @$$ in 36 seconds, what makes anyone think that Arlovski can beat him?

Remember that Fedor isn't always ground and pound early on and has been slow early on in plenty of fights. He's even taken significant damage and still won. Remember Randleman?

This picture speaks for Fedor:


You can't use MMAth... That's like dividing by zero.
YourMuDoIsWeak
QUOTE(KT80 @ Jan 31 2009, 11:43 PM) [snapback]4110561[/snapback]
right....dude..if it was that easy ......every fighter would have KOs............u are forgetting some guys can't be knock out no matter how hard u hit them ......

Every one can be knocked out,
Every one can be choked,
just flow with the go.
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