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swingdoctor
Melbourne has been sweltering though its hottest period in recordable history. 40+ deg Celcius for the last 4 days. Scientists attribute this to the greenhouse effect.

So, do you believe in the greenhouse effect and that the world is warming up due to greenhouse gases and how in your eyes have you seen(if any) the effect on Malaysia's climate.
kelantanese
the hotter the better, girls will wear sexier clothing. bikini on the street bowdown.gif
Crystallised Dream
It's quite the opposite here in Kuching. It's been raining for days, sometimes non-stop. We had one of the worst floods on 11th January but it's a good thing my area was built on good ground so my house didn't flood. Others elsewhere esp. towards the outskirts of the city had to evacuate. The skies cleared for around a week or so before starting to rain heavily again a couple of days ago. As I'm writing this the rain has just cleared, but it's already started flooding again in some areas.

And it's cold here, so I doubt kelantanese will have his share of bikini girls any time soon, at least not in Kuching. laugh.gif
Betong
Are there Greenhouse effect in Malaysia? I think yes.

For the last 20 yr, I think Malaysia become hotter and hotter. Less trees also contributed to that factor since no once bother to absorb CO2 anymore.

I think it time for Malaysians to migrate to cooler place. I choose Sarawak.

sonofgunongjerai
Sabah is nice too. I love Mount Kinabalu. Very Photogenic!
kelantanese
I going to move in Kuching, I'll stay with CD icon_smile.gif
swingdoctor
QUOTE(kelantanese @ Jan 30 2009, 10:25 AM) [snapback]4108313[/snapback]
I going to move in Kuching, I'll stay with CD icon_smile.gif

Ha, ha after seeing CD in that cheongsam, I'm sure most guys wouldn't mind moving in with her.
malaccan
The flights back to Malaysia are certainly getting bumpier over the years- especially over the Bay of Bengal. Speaking to the stewards and stewardesses many would agree on this, so it's not just my nerves getting the best of me as I get older! icon_redface.gif Winter too is getting milder. We don't get as much snow in winter now as we did 10 years ago.

I just want to share this song with you. It was released in 1990/91 - and if ever there is a Malaysian anthem on green issues, then this is it. It's called Hijau, by Zainal Abidin. It's become a classic. Many can't help but take a walk down memory lane when this song comes on.



Hijau - 2007 rendition
Nicely interpreted by Singapore's Hady Mirza before being joined by the original singer

Hijau (Green)

Here's a translation from a blog, which i've cut and pasted. There is certainly scope for correction, but it's sufficently correct.

Bumi yang tiada rimba (A world without forests)
Seumpama hamba (is like a slave)
Dia dicemar manusia (she is polluted by humans)
Yang jahil ketawa (who only laugh ignorantly)

Bumi yang tiada udara (A world without air)
Bagai tiada nyawa (is a world without life)
Pasti hilang suatu hari (it will one day disappear)
Tanpa disedari (without realisation)

Bumi tanpa lautan (A world without the oceans)
Akan kehausan (will thirst)
Pasti lambat laun hilang (it will eventually vanish)
Duniaku yang malang (my unfortunate world)

Dewasa ini kita saling merayakan (In recent days we are always celebrating)
Kejayaan yang akhirnya membinasakan (Successes that in the end will destroy us)
Apalah gunanya kematangan fikiran (What is the use of maturity of thinking)
Bila di jiwa kita masih lagi muda (when our souls remain infantile)
Dan mentah (and raw)
Ku lihat hijau (I see green)

Bumiku yang kian pudar (My fading world)
Siapa yang melihat (Who sees you?)
Di kala kita tersedar (By the time we realise)
Mungkinkah terlewat (it might be too late)

Korupsi,opresi,obsesi diri (Corruption, oppression, self obsession)
Polusi,depressi,di bumi,kini (Pollution, depression on earth, now)

Oh …anok-anok (Oh, children)
tokleh meghaso mandi laok (will not feel how it is to swim in the sea)
Besaing,maing ghama-ghama (and play in it together)
Ale lo ni tuo umurnyo bejuto (this earth is m
illions of years old)
Kito usoho (we work)
Jauhke dari malapetako (to stave away disaster)
Ozon lo ni koho nipih nak nak aghi (the ozone is thinning and we still)
Keno make asak (keep burning)
Hok biso wei,pasa maknusio (poisoned by humans)
Seghemo bendo-bendo di dunio (all the things in this world)
Tokleh tehe (will not last)
Sapa bilo-bilo (forever)
Crystallised Dream
QUOTE(kelantanese @ Jan 31 2009, 01:25 AM) [snapback]4108313[/snapback]
I going to move in Kuching, I'll stay with CD icon_smile.gif


Don't. embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Jan 31 2009, 07:34 AM) [snapback]4108712[/snapback]
Ha, ha after seeing CD in that cheongsam, I'm sure most guys wouldn't mind moving in with her.


Not exactly a good thing! embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE(malaccan @ Feb 2 2009, 08:47 AM) [snapback]4111339[/snapback]
The flights back to Malaysia are certainly getting bumpier over the years- especially over the Bay of Bengal. Speaking to the stewards and stewardesses many would agree on this, so it's not just my nerves getting the best of me as I get older! icon_redface.gif Winter too is getting milder. We don't get as much snow in winter now as we did 10 years ago.

I just want to share this song with you. It was released in 1990/91 - and if ever there is a Malaysian anthem on green issues, then this is it. It's called Hijau, by Zainal Abidin. It's become a classic. Many can't help but take a walk down memory lane when this song comes on.



Hijau - 2007 rendition
Nicely interpreted by Singapore's Hady Mirza before being joined by the original singer

Hijau (Green)

Here's a translation from a blog, which i've cut and pasted. There is certainly scope for correction, but it's sufficently correct.

Bumi yang tiada rimba (A world without forests)
Seumpama hamba (is like a slave)
Dia dicemar manusia (she is polluted by humans)
Yang jahil ketawa (who only laugh ignorantly)

Bumi yang tiada udara (A world without air)
Bagai tiada nyawa (is a world without life)
Pasti hilang suatu hari (it will one day disappear)
Tanpa disedari (without realisation)

Bumi tanpa lautan (A world without the oceans)
Akan kehausan (will thirst)
Pasti lambat laun hilang (it will eventually vanish)
Duniaku yang malang (my unfortunate world)

Dewasa ini kita saling merayakan (In recent days we are always celebrating)
Kejayaan yang akhirnya membinasakan (Successes that in the end will destroy us)
Apalah gunanya kematangan fikiran (What is the use of maturity of thinking)
Bila di jiwa kita masih lagi muda (when our souls remain infantile)
Dan mentah (and raw)
Ku lihat hijau (I see green)

Bumiku yang kian pudar (My fading world)
Siapa yang melihat (Who sees you?)
Di kala kita tersedar (By the time we realise)
Mungkinkah terlewat (it might be too late)

Korupsi,opresi,obsesi diri (Corruption, oppression, self obsession)
Polusi,depressi,di bumi,kini (Pollution, depression on earth, now)

Oh …anok-anok (Oh, children)
tokleh meghaso mandi laok (will not feel how it is to swim in the sea)
Besaing,maing ghama-ghama (and play in it together)
Ale lo ni tuo umurnyo bejuto (this earth is m
illions of years old)
Kito usoho (we work)
Jauhke dari malapetako (to stave away disaster)
Ozon lo ni koho nipih nak nak aghi (the ozone is thinning and we still)
Keno make asak (keep burning)
Hok biso wei,pasa maknusio (poisoned by humans)
Seghemo bendo-bendo di dunio (all the things in this world)
Tokleh tehe (will not last)
Sapa bilo-bilo (forever)


Very meaningful lyrics. Thank you for posting the song up malaccan.

Btw I've been reading online British newspapers (esp. dailymail.co.uk) and it seems that they have a problem with cold weathers. I don't know if the snow is milder, but it does seem cold and damp quite a lot there.
malaccan
QUOTE(Crystallised Dream @ Feb 3 2009, 03:35 AM) [snapback]4113215[/snapback]
Very meaningful lyrics. Thank you for posting the song up malaccan.

Btw I've been reading online British newspapers (esp. dailymail.co.uk) and it seems that they have a problem with cold weathers. I don't know if the snow is milder, but it does seem cold and damp quite a lot there.

Oh, CD reads DailyMail! At least you don't read The Sun icon_redface.gif embarassedlaugh.gif You're right though, it's been snowing heavily down south, but we're ok further north, which is not usually the case.

Glad you liked the song. Zainal has an earthy voice and he certainly those 'green' songs very well. You might recall that he covered the Malaysian version of You'll Be In My Heart by Phil Collins, which was featured in Disney's Tarzan. The morale of the story is that modern lifestyle and technology is not necessarily better than being faithful to nature. In keeping with the earth-related theme of this topic, here's the video. icon_wink.gif

Kau Di Hatiku

swingdoctor
QUOTE(malaccan @ Feb 3 2009, 06:12 PM) [snapback]4114132[/snapback]
The morale of the story is that modern lifestyle and technology is not necessarily better than being faithful to nature. In keeping with the earth-related theme of this topic, here's the video. icon_wink.gif

I agree. a couple of years ago I was flying into Langkawi and noticed a ring of mud surrounding the Island, I asked the taxi driver why and he proudly said that its because Langkawi was "modernising". "Modernising" is often a double edged sword, yes it brings wealth and prosperity but it usually comes at a cost. And wealth doesn't always equate to happiness, which should be the aim of life, rather then the accumulation of wealth itself.

In my practice I find that the richest people aren't always the ones which are the happiest. Happiness is what you make out of life, not what you have in it.

Still I guess its hard to be happy if you don't have a roof over your head, clothes on your back or food on the table.
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Crystallised Dream @ Feb 2 2009, 10:35 PM) [snapback]4113215[/snapback]
Not exactly a good thing! embarassedlaugh.gif

Aaah, don't sell yourself short. icon_smile.gif
malaccan
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Feb 4 2009, 02:34 AM) [snapback]4114464[/snapback]
I agree. a couple of years ago I was flying into Langkawi and noticed a ring of mud surrounding the Island, I asked the taxi driver why and he proudly said that its because Langkawi was "modernising". "Modernising" is often a double edged sword, yes it brings wealth and prosperity but it usually comes at a cost. And wealth doesn't always equate to happiness, which should be the aim of life, rather then the accumulation of wealth itself.

In my practice I find that the richest people aren't always the ones which are the happiest. Happiness is what you make out of life, not what you have in it.

Still I guess its hard to be happy if you don't have a roof over your head, clothes on your back or food on the table.

It's ironic isn't it. When young, we use the health that we have to accumulate wealth. Then in our twilight years, whatever wealth there is is used to preserve our remaining health. icon_neutral.gif
swingdoctor
QUOTE(malaccan @ Feb 4 2009, 04:51 PM) [snapback]4115567[/snapback]
It's ironic isn't it. When young, we use the health that we have to accumulate wealth. Then in our twilight years, whatever wealth there is is used to preserve our remaining health. icon_neutral.gif

laugh.gif I never thought about it that way but, you are absolutely correct. The problem is that I have a few young people who in their pursuit of wealth are doing so at the expense of their health, another irony in life.
Victoriaa
One sentence, huh?

Humans are releasing increasing amounts of carbon dioxide into our atmosphere, which absorbs solar radiation and converts it to heat, resulting in an overall warming of the planet.
kalai
The greenhouse effect is when the Sun's radiant energy is able to penetrate the Earth's atmosphere to reach the surface, but infrared radiation from the surface (reflected from the Sun) is absorbed by the atmosphere. In other words, not all the energy that gets in can get back out. This is like a greenhouse, which is hotter than the surrounding environment due to a similar property of the glass it is made from. Without the greenhouse effect, the night side of the Earth would be freezing cold until morning, because the Earth wouldn't be able to hold the Sun's energy when not directly exposed to it. However, an increased greenhouse effect, due to an increase in greenhouse gases (the gases that absorb infrared radiation) in the atmosphere, can increase the Earth's temperature, and many scientists believe this is the cause of observed global warming. The melting of the polar ice caps means that ice near the North and South Poles is melting due to global warming. If the ice is on land (Antarctica, Greenland, Siberia, etc.) rather than in the sea (the Arctic or Southern Ocean), the melting then results in a raising of sea level, which some day may flood islands and coastal regions.
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