Hi the symbol is obviously in the Hmong script developed by Shong Lue Yang but I am wondering what it means.....I see it alot in pictures with hmoob Cob Fa. My dad saw it and said it was also a Cob Fa symbol. Anyone know more please tell me.

I don't have a pic of it up but there is a logo from this australian web site and it is EXACTLY what it looks like. except maybe without the hat.

http://www.linguistics.unimelb.edu.au/ research/hmong/hmongaustenglish.html

Could you give us the link again, I tried getting the extension using copy and paste but it still had no image found.

Finally someone replies....well the link does not work....but here is the image I was talking about.....

Still see nuttin

Right click then press properties.....copy the link...

nope..have no idea wat tat symbol it....but when u find out..tell me?..i'm curious too...

Are u going into linguistics or something? The only two places that I've seen this type of writing taught is in the Twin Cities and Fresno. But sorry, I don't know how to even write it, so can't interpret it for u. Anyways, this type of writing is called many things, which are Phaj Hauj Hmoob (Phahawh) , also called Ntawv Paj Ntaub or Ntawv Cob Fa (Cob Fa). The only thing I can do is assume what it can mean. Maybe someone taught in this form of writting system can interpret it better. My only ASSUMPTION is that it could possibly mean peb (three) Hmong, since that is such an overused termonolgy in the Hmong language. Sorry, if this helps at all or not. Good Luck.

WHERE DO THEY TEACH THIS IN THE TWIN CITIES???????

I used to know a friend who attend those ed classes. Don't know if it exist anymore though.

Sorry, I don't know for sure where they teach it, but I remember seeing it in Hmong Times about them teaching this form of writing for free. That was about maybe 2-3 months ago when I visited the Twin Cities. It was supposed to be like a 6 months course so people can be proficient in it.

Anyways, whoever wants to see the picture of the symbol lilasiankid is talking about can visit this web site. I think I've got the correct one up. So it should take you directly to the picture.

http://www.linguistics.unimelb.edu.au/rese...mong/index.html

And lilasiankid, I am assuming the symbol with the hat is the one you're talking about. The website also has a little information about Phahawh Hmong too, if you haven't read it already. Also, I do believe there is a book about Shong Lue Yang called Mother of Writing, which may have information about the symbol. But I'm not a 100% sure because I haven't read it in a while now.

Yeah, that's the one.....the ORIGINAL logo has no hat on top, but has a little line or a dot instead...but I think it means the same thing....that hat was probably just added on.....

If it has a dot or a line on top of it instead then I think it's supposed to represent the tone variance. Cause the hmong RPA (Romanized Popular Alphabet-Latin derived), which is mostly used in the US, has what, b, j, m, s, v, g, d, and the mid-tone to represent tonal sounds, & I think the pahawh writing system have symbols on top to represent the tonal change instead. From what I remember reading from the book "Mother of Writing," they said it's more convenient & efficient to use the pahawh writing system instead, just because most of the time is uses only one symbol for a whole word in the RPA writing system, so if u were notetaking it'd be more useful cause then u can add the tones in at a later time. Maybe, I'm giving too much information. But I hope it helps. Good luck on ur research.

its the symbol for .........HMONG ...in pahauh of course.... its the U ish shape with the E ish shape with a line ish over the top....yup thats HMONG (koob + hmau = hmoob)...that's how you do it in pahauh-----koob is the Ushape and hmau is the E with line shape

about the hat...i think it's just for decoration....it happens a lot

that might be true about the lines but the order of the lines, dots, two dots, are there so that each symbol has a different are not the same, (meaning to have different sounds) ... you have to look at the pahauh alphabet to understand what i mean...the base of the symbol is mostly the same in every line but what makes them different from each other is the line, dot, and two dots. (also of course the sound) it's very simple to learn each line when you know the first sound of the first symbol....oh by what i mean is that when you see a line above a symbol, that doesn't nessessary mean that every symbol will have almost the same sound as that...example : keev (it has a line above it) and kej (also have a line above it)...two sounds are not similar like kev (which doesn't have anything above at all) keev and kev have quite a low tone to make it similar yet kev doesn't have a line....(i'm done here) sorry if you're confused...just wanna say something