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I read somewhere that Inuits and Siberians can communicate to each other with little trouble; that's how similar their languages are. I guess they didn't change much after traveling to North America, but this makes sense since they are closest to their old world counterparts and were supposedly the last ones to cross the Bering Strait.

Siberians are Asian and Native Americans are Americans.

No They're negroid. Now close this dumass thread.

In short yes

My mom has a friend who is 100% Inuit, but she was adopted by a white couple in the late 1960s so that's why she lives in South Carolina.
Its weird because when we go anywhere, people think she's family and most people assume she's Asian.

So yes, to me, they are Asian.

genitically I would say they have some asian blood but I wouldn't classify them as asian. I think they don't even consider themselves as asian so why should we?

Genetically they are very close to Mongolians.

Who cares? They are from North America.
They're not Asian.

I could understand separate words from Qechua and Nachuatl, also the grammar is almost the same, but more close to Manchu.

I claim all those Siberians and all other peoples living in northern Asia as Asians.
But not Inuit, Eskimo, etc in America. Although there is supposedly a connection but I am not feeling it.

Eskimo looks like related to Japanese through polynesian roots. These especialy feels common for Oduls culture.

Chewkchas people were famous for their struggle with russians since 1600. Untill 1925, when russians decided to bomb them with free alcohol.

Inuits (Eskimos) are basically in between Siberian groups and Native American groups as far as genetics go, which makes perfect sense considering Alaska is the halfway point between the Siberian-American migration.



The pie charts represent the frequency of the 18 main Y haplogroups within population samples. Numbers correspond to the following populations: 1, Kung; 2, Biaka Pygmies; 3, Bamileke; 4, Fali; 5, Senegalese; 6, Berbers; 7, Ethiopians; 8, Sudanese; 9, Basques; 10, Greeks; 11, Polish; 12, Saami; 13, Russians; 14, Lebanese; 15, Iranians; 16, Kazbegi (Georgia); 17, Kazaks; 18, Punjabis; 19, Uzbeks; 20, Forest Nentsi; 21, Khants; 22, Eastern Evenks; 23, Buryats; 24, Evens; 25, Eskimos; 26, Mongolians; 27, Evenks; 28, Northern Han; 29, Tibetans; 30, Taiwanese; 31, Japanese; 32, Koreans; 33, Filipinos; 34, Javanese; 35, Malaysians; 36, West New Guineans (highlands); 37, Papua New Guineans (coast); 38, Australians (Arnhem); 39, Australians (Sandy Desert); 40, Cook Islanders; 41, Tahitians; 42, Maori; 43, Navajos; 44, Cheyenne; 45, Mixtecs; 46, Makiritare; 47, Cayapa; 48, Greenland Inuit.

http://www.le.ac.uk/ge/maj4/JoblingTS.03.NRG.Review.pdf

Not really, siberians are not east asian, only those siberians who have heavily mixed with east asian can be considered as closerly related to EA, the rest un-mixed are more closer to native american than to east asian.

Native siberians and esikmos, etc, genetically speaking, is a bridge between Native american and East asian, their IQ is around 80-85 according to various studies, again, more similiar to native americans than to asians.

But ironically they get the most stereotype "asian"looks in general, e.g. quite small eyes, single eyelids, big, short and flat skull, etc.

And genetically speaking the siberians who have mixed with EA (Manchu, daur mongol, etc) demonstrates huge difference from un-mixed ones, the difference is so huge such that you can barely group them as one race

I'm curious, when you say Chewkchas -is that another name for Chukchi? Because the Chukchi is known for their resistance against the Russians. They were a bit war-like people once, except they had peace with the Yupik since long ago. Yupik came from Alaska and setteled in small numbers in Chukotka. So the presence of Yupik in Siberia is a back migration phenomenon, and probably not the only back migration.

Yupik is the only real "Eskimo" people in Asia. All others are outside of Asia, in the Americas and Greenland. Only the Chukotka Yupik can be said to be "Asian" the rest are not, since they don't live in Asia, and haven't for at least a thousand years or more.

And, apart from that, there is not one "Siberian people". Siberia, in the larger meaning, is huge, and the people there are of many very different ethnicities. They are, of course, Asian, as they live in North Asia, and they are also related to other Asians such as East Asians and Mongolians, but to a varying degree.
Y- DNA maps like the one just posted don't tell the whole picture, they only show patermal lineages, which can be important when tracing the peopling of the areas, but it doesn't ultimately say exactly how closely present people are related, only autosomal DNA comparisons does that.

Here's an interesting study, the study includes the Yakut as a Siberian people - they are assumed to have migrated to Siberia later than most Siberians.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%...al.pone.0003862

Ps. the study covers East Asia in general.

They're not Asian.
I have native friends and they get offended if you call them ASIAN,
so please, stop calling them Asian. They are proud to be people of the New World.
It was just that they were too naive and welcome the White men as God.

Don't try arguing with these nationalists. They won't listen.

As a RACE, they are closely related to Northeast Asians. End of story. This is fact and you can't argue it, take your retarded moonbat postmodernism elsewhere.

Inuit also do not have 80-85 IQ, it's quite a bit higher than that- 95, higher with better health and education.

A Zapotec girl thought I was Zapotec. She started speaking in Spanish to me. and I went along because I could understand Spanish but I couldn't speak it. It was cool. She got beautiful long dark hair, tan skin, almond eyes. She didn't really speak English, however I was able to help her without no difficulty. She was an indigena. Very pretty.

>I'm curious, when you say Chewkchas -is that another name for Chukchi?

Yes, but it's not their selfname

But I could say that Oduls, Chukchis and Eskimo are like tribes of one nations, not a different nations.

Human races: Caucasians, Black Africans(negroids?), Mongoloids, South Asian Aborigines, Amerinds, Oceanians, and Australian Aborigines
Therefore, we are Amerind on that scale. Different race. Obviously, Xeemlauj is keen on this enough to respect Native identity.

not all of them do...
My mom's friend, the one who's Inuit, doesn't care if people think she's Asian.
More than likely, her ancestors came from Northern Asia.

It's like me, I'm Ryukyuan, my ancestors are mainly southern Chinese, that's why we look Chinese.
I don't get offended if someone thinks I'm Chinese, just like she doesn't get offended if someone thinks she is North Asian.

I guess so, but I believe they also call themselves Chukchi nowadays, at least when they talk to others. And I believe that "Chukchi" is not just one people, but several related.

I don't think Chukchi and "Eskimo" are the same, Chukchi came to Chukotka in historical times, and met with Yupik there, they had no knowledge of each other untill they met - according to legend. I could be wrong, though.

They speak same language, they traded and wared with each other for a long time before Yipik.

Inuit are more related to Mongolians than Central Amerinds. Get a clue, idiot. No one is trying to "claim" your identity. There isn't even a pan-"Amerind" identity you dumb sack of $hit. Now calm the fu-k down.

Yet you lot sure do talk much about redefining Native identity to accommodate your views. There's no Pan-Indian identity but there's a lot of inter-tribal hobnobbing going around. Seems like you're the one who's about to blow a gasket here. Loser. LOL

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lol, what are "my views", no one is out to get you. stop crying about how we want to expropriate your culture because I for one am not really interested.

I'm just stating fact, "Eskimo" are closely related to Mongolians.

How does that interfere with your non existent Pan movement?

Admittedly, I only now about the Chukotka Chukchi, so whether the Kamchatka Chukchi had some contact, I don't know. Different sources also seem to disagree whether the first people they contacted were Inuit or Yupik. It is often translated as Inuit, but it may be an incorrect translation based on similarity of words. The people they originally contacted were called "Juit" by the Chukchi. They may have been Inuit, but the people living there today are Yupik.

Now, I know with certainty that the languages aren't the same, because one Greenlandic anthropologist called Knud Rasmussen visited Chukchi people in Chukotka long time ago, and he couldn't speak with them, but had to rely on an interpreter, -and he spoke the Kalaallit Inuit language, and generally could communicate to some degree with all Inuit.

Not much to do with the subject anyway, I guess we're digressing.

Their IQ doesn't explain their genetics. IQ depends on the country's wealth and the ethnic groups "hierarchy" in the country

Oduls language and culture have realy a lot of common with Japanese culture.

lol, thankx for that I guess, I'm proud for my new-world blood
I don't care to much either way, people always say I look at least half asian (my native fetures of dark hair and dark almond eyes mixed with light yellow skin and shiny hair), and verry unique, I don't care what they think I look like. I'm proud of all my blood, I'm not a white man hater like some of the people on this forum. people can't help what they are born as, so I give everyone a fare chance.
oh, and... yes, we are not asian becuase we are not from asia (end of story, asians are from asia, yes?), but we are related to them. if you say we are asian becuase we crossed the streight, I could go back and your african, yes? we all are, arn't we? ^^

Not really, intelligence is at least 50% genetic, even the most p.c. scholars dont get the nerve to deny the fact genetics play a very significant role in determining one's IQ or intelligence, thats common sense, otherwise how could human who born in an similiar enviroment, even within the same race, still can be vastly different in their intelligence capacity?

Note that almost 70%+ information carried in your DNA is brain-related, since the rest less than 30% DNA can varies so significantly (e.g. looks, body height, muscle structure), what make you believe the 70%+ brain related DNA dont varies from each other or from one racial group to another one? its more like something only a cult memeber can believe

There are various IQ studies for native siberian and native americans, and there are many differents sets of Y-DNA/mtDNA studies about their evoluation routes as well, they are simply far and away from EA in gene, this is espeically true for the native american, who is, from a genetic point of view, closer to Caucasians than to Asian

What? Do you have any sources for that? It seems pretty far fetched. The autosomal DNA SNP comparisons do not suggest anything of that sort at all.
Neither do their morphology. Of course, not all NA are the same.

Which can bee seen in this study:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...bmedid=17786201

Thats just their mtDNA, their Y-DNA is almost 100% Haplogroup Q, which is a subgroup of Haplogroup P, share the same parent-evolution route with Haplogroup R, the group for most caucasians from Iran to West Europe.

While most EA belong to Haplogroup O&N, a very distant bro of Haplogroup P, so of cause, in terms of Y-DNA, Native American is closer to Caucasian than they are to EAs

That's probably cause it's old, I mean, according to SNP comparisons, they can be considered their own. But that's again depending on what NA's we're talking about - and whether you consider Inuits and Yupiks as Native American or not. I doubt that the people moving forth and back were just women.
They are probably somewhat related to both EA and Euros in any case, as the split from either happened at least 15,000 years ago, maybe even earlier.
So - they're not Asian. They are distinct.

Native Americans on the mtDNA side are mostly A,B,C,D which are East Asian haplogroups. By your same reasoning Finns who carry majority haplogroup N are more Asian than they are European.

Is Inuit DNA distinctively different from the more Southern Native Americans?

They have some affinities with certain Siberian populations, but it has been suggested that it's because of back migration. I'm not sure how they compare with other Native Americans. As I understand it, there have been a total absorption of an earlier culture's peoples into the Inuit populations, according to recent DNA studies, and those people are also thought to have migrated much later than the other Native Americans - but a couple of thousand years before the Inuits came to the Americas (or something like that). I would guess that they are distinct from other Native Americans, but I've got no real info to support that notion.

Genetically, they're Asian, technically, they're American. So race wise, they're Asian but just based on where they live, they're North American.
Of course they'd get offended if you called them Asian. They've been on North America way before the white man did and white people probably treat them like foreigners.

LoL, I'd say that around 14,000 years are quite a bit before!

I think those folks are so ancient, that their features reflect a time period prior to our notions of modern "race".

American is a nationality, not ethnic. If you look at the early pictures of native americans, they look asian.

Depends what you define "Asian" as. If it's cultural, then there is a connection between Northern Native Americans and Siberians, such as Siberian Shamanism. On anthropology, Inuit resemble Siberians, such as Koryaks.





They look like a mix between Siberians and Native Americans.

It seems like it's only the Chukchi who's mixed a little with "Eskimo", but not Koryak. They are, I believe, a bit mixed with Russians these days, and probably all Siberians are a little bit.



Koryak and Chukchi are not originally from the areas they live in now, they have migrated there within a relatively short timeframe, according to various studies.

They're Asian to me, except Native Americans. Siberians, Inuits, and native Greenlanders especially

Only problem is that although Siberia is in Asia, some of the populations aren't Asian in the racial sense, while Inuits are, but not Asian in the geographical sense. At the same time, Kalmyk and Nenets peoples live in Europe, but the former especially are related to Mongolians. Some people in Western Siberia (Siberia in the greater meaning of the word) are like Europeans, like Komi people, for example. This is also the case with some of the peoples in southern Siberia. There's no single Siberian ethnicity, but a lot of fairly unrelated peoples, and I'm not even including Russians into this, only talking about indigenous Siberians.

There is no such thing as siberian shamanism, a nivkh shamanism is different from yakut shamanism for example ~ every culture started from their distinct shamanism or animism before other 'concept' of religion (monotheism, spiritual/hindu/buddhist), that includes the four great ancient civilization or cradle of civilization before they invent their own 'religion': mesopotamia, egypt, india and china.

Evenks look similar to Native Siberians, probably because they were influenced by these populations.