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Swordmaker
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China confident of 8% growth target in 2009

China was confident of achieving its 8-percent gross domestic product (GDP) growth target for 2009, Liu Tienan, vice minister of the National Development and Reform Commission, told a press conference Friday.

Liu said China's fast development facilitated industrialization and urbanization, trends that in turn provided huge consumption potential.

The country's financial system was in "good shape" overall, he said.

China had faced downward pressure from the global economic downturn, especially since the fourth quarter, he added.

China had developed stimulus plans for 10 industries, which would continue to buoy confidence and support economic development, he said.

Starting last month, China unveiled stimulus packages for 10 sectors: automobile, steel, shipbuilding, textiles, machinery, electronics and information technology, light industry, petrochemicals, nonferrous metals and logistics.

Liu said these packages were not only intended to offset the current economic slowdown but would promote industrial restructuring and upgrading. The plans also reflected public concerns and the effort to protect the environment.

Zhu Hongren, director of the Department of Operations Monitoring and Coordination under the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, said obsolete, polluting industrial facilities that were energy- and resources-intensive would be eliminated.

He said there would be mandatory, clear regulations for the elimination of such capacity in industries covered in the support packages, including steel, nonferrous metals and light industry.

Increasing the scale of government investment was an important, effective and direct way to deal with the impact of the global financial crisis, Liu said in response to a reporter's question.

An increased fiscal deficit was "necessary" at such times, he said.

However, the increase was in a "controllable range" and the risk was bearable, he said.

China's draft budget will be submitted to the annual national legislative meeting, which opens March 5. China's fiscal year starts on Jan. 1.

(Xinhua News)
MyEmpire2000PRO
Given the fact the global economical meltdown is most likely turn out to be the Great Depression II, we'll be lucky if we can grow at more than 6.5% this year, I remeber a report where mentions at the current stage of our economy, without much external market, internal demanding and investment can only do as far as that number unless we accerlate our urbanization kiss.gif
CTM2000
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Given the fact the global economical meltdown is most likely turn out to be the Great Depression II, we'll be lucky if we can grow at more than 6.5% this year, I remeber a report where mentions at the current stage of our economy, without much external market, internal demanding and investment can only do as far as that number unless we accerlate our urbanization kiss.gif

Dude who are trying to kiss?
yhellothar
I'm betting on 7%.
Chinese DesertFox
We will achieve 8.
sfphoto
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Starting last month, China unveiled stimulus packages for 10 sectors: automobile, steel, shipbuilding, textiles, machinery, electronics and information technology, light industry, petrochemicals, nonferrous metals and logistics.

Liu said these packages were not only intended to offset the current economic slowdown but would promote industrial restructuring and upgrading. The plans also reflected public concerns and the effort to protect the environment.

Zhu Hongren, director of the Department of Operations Monitoring and Coordination under the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, said obsolete, polluting industrial facilities that were energy- and resources-intensive would be eliminated.


I am surprised that China didn't target these sectors: biotech, health care, environment, energy, mass transit, aerospace, urban real-estate, consumer durables and retail. It's possible that China wants to upgrade these industries to become more energy efficient and less polluting. But steel, shipbuilding, textiles, nonferrous metals and machinery are 19th century industries. China would do well to concentrate on 21st century industries instead. And as for the auto industry (which consumes a lot of steel and energy), it would be better for China to promote mass transit rather than automobile ownership to reduce the dependence on fossil fuels and decrease auto emissions. That would imply that China would have to plan its urban areas and design its transportation networks very differently from the U.S. And since China needs up to 100 new airports and thousands of airplanes in the next two decades, China should develop its own aerospace industry. With the right urban planning, new Chinese cities won't suffer from the pollution, overpopulation and congestion of Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guangzhou. That is to say, a holistic approach to economic and industrial development should factor in their effects on the environment, society, energy, etc.
higher
investment should concentrate where there is highest rate of return. We are only at $5500 GDP per head. So what types of industries do you think the highest return is? we are not india! laugh.gif

I don't remember the gov ever falling short of its announced growth target in the past 15 years. Wen Jiabao publicly announced 8 percent in an international forum, said we have the confidence to do it. So I believe 8 percent.
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investment should concentrate where there is highest rate of return. We are only at $5500 GDP per head. So what types of industries do you think the highest return is? we are not india! laugh.gif


It's funny you mentioned India. Because India is almost the exact opposite of China. The old smokestack industries like steel, machinery, metals, shipbuilding, etc. are ideal for "developing" countries. For a country like India, maybe, those old smokestack industries would be a perfect match for their infrastructure needs. But China already has massive overcapacity in these same industries.
retaxis
To me personally as an older Chinese male, percentage of growth to the Chinese government at present is more of a pen1s measuring tool to compare with others than anything else.

We need to focus more on health care, schools and tackling the gender imbalance. A society grows the fastest when its stable.
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To me personally as an older Chinese male, percentage of growth to the Chinese government at present is more of a pen1s measuring tool to compare with others than anything else.

We need to focus more on health care, schools and tackling the gender imbalance. A society grows the fastest when its stable.


China's population will age rapidly after 2010. Also, the gender imbalance now is 120 to 100 in favor of boys. And the income gap between the urban and rural areas is HUGE. GDP growth rate of 8% is good only for those living in urban areas which account for about 300 million people. For the other 1 billion people who are dependent on subsistence agriculture, life goes on as it had for millenia...
mndeg
gender imbalance? just start becoming swingers
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