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fivers
is it truly as clean as they say? & what happens to you when they catch you throwing sth away (eg. a used ciggie)? thx lol

ps. & what abt those cane beatings... do they really apply those as stated below? confused.gif

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Caning_in_Singapore
hjxfabio
QUOTE(fivers @ Mar 16 2009, 05:38 AM) [snapback]4166368[/snapback]
is it truely as clean as they say? & what happens to you when they catch you throwing sth away (eg. a used ciggie)? thx lol

ps. & what abt those cane beatings... do they really apply those as stated below? confused.gif

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Caning_in_Singapore


hmm.. Does our cleanliness include the cleanliness of our void deck areas at night before the sweepers clean up for us in the morning? and also does cleanliness include the condition of our toilets in the coffeeshops?
Bhaskara
My impression of Singapore, it IS very clean! It's really impressive, I must say, I really like it. But apparently, it's only because they are afraid of the fines. Apparently, when they are outside the reach of Singapore's hand of law (like when they are visiting neighboring countries), Singaporeans would happily litter around embarassedlaugh.gif
I don't really know, though. I just hear rumors about it icon_redface.gif
fivers
I see... interesting... I've only been on singaporean territory in transit @the airport so far lol

nice to hear it's really that clean, other cities should follow their example though... icon_smile.gif
hjxfabio
QUOTE(fivers @ Mar 17 2009, 04:42 AM) [snapback]4167341[/snapback]
I see... interesting... I've only been on singaporean territory in transit @the airport so far lol

nice to hear it's really that clean, other cities should follow their example though... icon_smile.gif


I'm a Singaporean.. Put it this way.. The places, where the government wants the tourists, to see are clean. The true cleanliness of the people can be seen in places where the tourists don't usually go. Especially the places that I have mentioned in the above post, the common areas of places where people live at night and the toilets of cheap eating places. Trust me, you would need to be extra careful when you go to the toilets as you wouldn't know if you have stepped on liquid or soilds (sometimes) which you shouldn't have stepped on.

Bhaskara is correct in the post. I have to say the result of law is successful, but the education part has failed. I say this because I have seen many incidents where parents teach their children not to do certain things as they would be fined or caught by the police, instead of teaching them the real reasons on why they should not be doing those.
Ek-ek
Strict enforcement of their laws!
fivers
I came across these videos, from what I've read on here they're exceptions but it's funny to see S'pore is not always so clean lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGYrFuclGy0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EH2wAeDyR0 (starting@1:50/garbage..)

swingdoctor
Singapore is one of the cleanest and safest cities in the world. I'm embarassed to say even safer then where I live ie Melbourne. Every city will have its cheap nasty toilets, that can't be helped. But I agree that Singaporeans do it not because of a sense of civic duty but a fear of the consequences. Thats why when they go overseas, essentially they do things they can't do in Singapore.
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Crystallised Dream
Singapore is clean, but like my father says true cleanliness is if the people themselves do not litter, whether or not there are heavy fines. I'm not sure yet of any place that fits this bill.
tangawizi
But having lived herein africa for some time, i find that if it takes a fine to change the dirty habits of people, then do it! Cuz it's only when it hits them in the pockets that people make the effort to be hygenic.

You yourself say u don't know any place that is clean by itself cuz the people are clean... well.... i do know such places, villages in countrysides of Spain... their inahbitants are so proud of their villages they will automatically keep their streets clean!

But this kind of pride doesn't exist everywhere.. so if it takes a monetary fine, then so be it... my 2 sens worth
duytanfan
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Suzuka00
QUOTE (Crystallised Dream @ Jun 5 2009, 11:46 AM) *
Singapore is clean, but like my father says true cleanliness is if the people themselves do not litter, whether or not there are heavy fines. I'm not sure yet of any place that fits this bill.

Some one said that singapore is a prison nation.

I think singapore should loosen their laws a little.
Ltangelic
QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Jun 15 2009, 01:55 AM) *
Some one said that singapore is a prison nation.

I think singapore should loosen their laws a little.


What sort of laws are you talking about here? I most definitely won't want to see Singapore adopting the same kind of laws in America where anyone can buy a gun off the street and start a shooting frenzy.
bodigero
In singapore outside the streets and sidewalks are cleaner than inside of your house. lol Everyday there are cleaners that not just sweep but they scrape the tiles and pavments like its made out of precious jewels. ;p;
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Jun 10 2009, 01:51 AM) *
But having lived herein africa for some time, i find that if it takes a fine to change the dirty habits of people, then do it! Cuz it's only when it hits them in the pockets that people make the effort to be hygenic.

You yourself say u don't know any place that is clean by itself cuz the people are clean... well.... i do know such places, villages in countrysides of Spain... their inahbitants are so proud of their villages they will automatically keep their streets clean!

But this kind of pride doesn't exist everywhere.. so if it takes a monetary fine, then so be it... my 2 sens worth

terrible correlation. for all you know they just dont have much garbage.

btw, its "my 2 cents"
papen
Yes 90%. the rest 10% doesn't display in public biggrin.gif
ricochet
which country you go you can smell urine in toilet......singapore boleh beerchug.gif

there is always a "jakun" among the red dots
Nhoona
QUOTE (fivers @ Mar 15 2009, 05:38 PM) *
is it truly as clean as they say? & what happens to you when they catch you throwing sth away (eg. a used ciggie)? thx lol

ps. & what abt those cane beatings... do they really apply those as stated below? confused.gif

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Caning_in_Singapore


I would say it is true

im not Sigaporean btw icon_smile.gif
jianxing
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Aug 13 2009, 01:49 AM) *
I would say it is true


hmm.. Then apparently you have not seen much of Singapore. Go to heartlands areas at night. That's the true cleanliness.

But I must say that our government have done a fantastic job in packaging Singapore as a clean place. Many foreigners fall for it.
Cha
Singapore is one of the cleanest cities that I've ever been to. The messiest is New York City and certain alleys of San Francisco.
badparticle
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Jun 9 2009, 11:51 PM) *
that if it takes a fine to change the dirty habits of people, then do it!


I agree.

I think good city bylaws regulating facade, signage, buildings, street design and traffic usage also help.
ricochet
been to bangkok almost every month and happen to open my eyes big big.....the thais are generally a clean lot.....go to their toilets and even on secluded areas......its cleaner than you thought

as for singapore, no cleaners....by default it will be messy and stinky
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