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trismegistos
This is the Russian perspective on earth changes. Hard facts that are going unreported in America. The atmospheres of the planets are changing. Dr. Dmitriev's work shows that the planets themselves are changing. They are undergoing changes in their atmospheres.

For example the Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before. The Mars observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash, because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as they calculated, and basically the wind on that little mirror was so high that it blew it right off the device.

Earth's moon is growing an atmosphere

Also, the moon is growing an atmosphere that's made up of a compound Dmitriev refers to as ''Natrium.'' Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000-kilometer-deep
layer of Natrium that wasn't there before.

And we're having this kind of change in Earth's atmosphere in the upper levels, where HO gas is forming that wasn't there before; it simply did not exist in the quantity that it does now. It's not related to global warming and it's not related to CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions or any of that stuff. It's just showing up.

Magnetic fields and brightness of the planets are changing. The planets are experiencing sizable changes in their overall brightness. Venus, for example, is showing us marked
increases in its overall brightness. Jupiter has gotten to have such a high energetic charge that there is actually a visible tube of ionizing radiation that's formed between its moon, Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken more recently..

And the planets are having a change in their fields. The magnetic fields are becoming stronger. Jupiter's magnetic field has more than doubled. Uranus's magnetic field is
changing. Neptune's magnetic field is increasing. These planets are becoming brighter. Their magnetic field strength is getting higher. Their atmospheric qualities are changing.

Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts. When the Voyager 2 space probe flew past Uranus and Neptune, the apparent north and south magnetic poles
were sizably offset from where the rotational pole was. In one case, it was 50 degrees off, and in the other case the difference was around 40 degrees, both of which are pretty
big changes.

The overall changes could essentially be broken down into three categories: Energy field changes, luminosity changes, and atmospheric changes.

Overall volcanic activity has increased 500 percent since 1975 On the Earth, we're seeing the changes even more completely.

For example, Michael Mandeville has done research that has shown that the overall volcanic activity on the Earth since 1875 has increased by roughly 500 percent. The overall earthquake activity has increased by 400 percent just since 1973.

Natural disasters increased 410 percent between 1963 and 1993

Dr. Dmitriev did a very elaborate calculation of natural disasters. He showed that if you compare the years 1963 through 1993, the overall amount of natural disasters of all different kinds - whether you are talking hurricanes, typhoons, mud slides, tidal waves, you name it - have increased by 410 percent.

The Sun's magnetic field increased by 230 percent since 1901

There's a study by Dr. Mike Lockwood from Rutherford Appleton National Laboratories in California, who has been investigating the Sun. He has discovered that since 1901, the
overall magnetic field of the Sun has become 230 percent stronger than it was before.

More than just Earth Changes

So, all in all, what we're seeing is a lot more than just what they call Earth Changes. Some people get into the idea that there is an interaction between the Earth and the Sun that's going on here. Very, very few people are aware of the work that is being done in the Russian National Academy of Sciences in Siberia, specifically in Novosibirsk, where they are doing this research. They've come to the conclusion that the only possible thing that could be causing this energetic change all throughout the Solar System is that we are moving into an area of energy that is different - that is higher.

The glowing plasma at the leading edge of our Solar System has recently increased 1000 percent

Now, check this out. The Sun itself has a magnetic field, of course, and that magnetic field creates an egg around the Solar System, which is known as the heliosphere. The
heliosphere is shaped like a teardrop, with the long and thin end of the drop pointing in the opposite direction from the direction that we're traveling. It's just like a comet, where the tail is always pointing away from the Sun.

The Russians have looked at the leading edge of this heliosphere, and they have observed glowing, excited plasma energy there. This plasma energy used to be 10 astronomical
units deep (an astronomical unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, 93,000,000 miles). So ten astronomical units represents the normal thickness of this glowing energy
that we used to see at the front end of the Solar System.

Today, that glowing plasma has gone to 100 astronomical units deep. Although Dmitriev's paper does not give an exact timeline, we can assume that this increase happened in the same 1963 to 1993 period as the increase he found in natural disasters. Whenever it happened, that's a 1,000 percent increase in the overall brightness of the energy at the front end of the Solar System.

And this means that the Solar System itself is moving into an area where the energy is more highly charged. That higher-charged energy is in turn exciting the plasma and causing more of it to form, so you see more luminosity, more brightness. This energy is then flowing into the Sun, which in turn emits the energy and spreads it out along its equatorial plane, which is called the Ecliptic.

This in turn is saturating interplanetary space, which causes the solar emissions to travel more quickly and charge up the energy on the planets.

And this is conscious energy that is changing how the planet works, how it functions, and what kind of life it supports. The harmonics of the DNA spiral itself are altering. That's the real, hidden cause of spontaneous mass evolutions in previous epochs of time.

All this is happening all at the same time, and it's all working up to a crescendo where there is going to be a sudden shift.

In other words, we will get to the point where we are so far into the new level of energy that there will be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself. This increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System. The planets are pushed slightly farther away from the Sun and the atoms and molecules that make them up actually expand in terms of their physical size.
trismegistos
What's Happening to the Sun?
http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-am...s-happening-sun

quote:

What's Happening to the Sun?
Could its unusual behavior herald a new ice age?
By Laurie J. Schmidt Posted 01.27.2009 at 11:26 am 23 Comments


The First Cycle 24 Sunspot: NOAA

For about 50 years from roughly 1650 to 1700, the Sun took a break from its typical sunspot activity. That phase of solar rest coincided with what we now refer to as "The Little Ice Age" -- a period of cooling on the Earth that resulted in bitterly cold winters, particularly in Europe and North America. Scientists attribute the Little Ice Age to two main causes: increased volcanic activity and reduced solar activity.

Could it happen again? And are we headed there now?

The term "solar activity" refers collectively to sunspots, solar flares, and solar eruptions. Together, these phenomena make up the "space weather" that alters interactions between Earth and its atmosphere, causing potential disruptions to satellites, communications systems, and power grids. Varying levels of solar activity also cause significant changes in atmospheric circulation patterns, which can affect the weather and climate on Earth.

Solar cycles, which last an average of 11 years, are driven by the number, size, and placement of sunspots -- cooler, darker spots on the Sun's surface where intense magnetic activity occurs -- on the Sun's surface. Each cycle is marked by a solar minimum and a solar maximum, meaning the approximate time in the cycle when the least and greatest amounts of solar activity occurred. During the solar minimum, sunspot activity diminishes, and during the maximum greater numbers of sunspots appear. As one cycle winds down and another begins, sunspots from both cycles can be seen simultaneously.

By late 2007, Solar Cycle 23, which began in 1996, was decaying to low activity levels, and NOAA forecasters predicted that Solar Cycle 24 would begin in March 2008, plus or minus six months. Indeed, the new cycle's first sunspot appeared in January 2008 -- its high-latitude location a clear sign that it was part of the new solar cycle. But in the months that followed, there was a marked decrease in sunspot activity, spawning questions about whether we could be headed into another little ice age.

"Everything we're seeing now we've seen the Sun do before, and it still went on to produce a normal solar cycle," said Doug Biesecker, physicist at NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder, Colorado.

After a nine-month lull in solar activity, a batch of five sunspots appeared beginning on October 31, 2008, four of which belonged to the new cycle. And according to Biesecker, so far this year, two sunspots appeared for a total of four days -- one was a Cycle 23 sunspot and one a Cycle 24. "You always get lots of days with no sunspots, and at solar minimum you almost always see sunspots from the new cycle at the same time you're still seeing sunspots from the old cycle. This overlap phase can be just a few months, but it can be as long as two years," he said.

Biesecker says that the longer Cycle 23 drags out, the more we will hear about how the Sun is going quiet. "If you go back to the early 1950s, that solar minimum was very similar to the one we're going through right now," he said. "But it was followed by the largest solar cycle on record. So just because the Sun is quieter than it's been in awhile doesn't really tell us where it's going to be in the future."

Tom Woods, Associate Director for Technical Divisions at the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics (LASP), concurs. "Typically during a solar minimum you will have one or two months with no sunspots, so what we saw in 2008 is typical of most solar cycles," he said.

But Woods points out that there are other indications, aside from sunspot activity, that Cycle 24 may be different. First, the magnetic field at the Sun's poles is about 40 percent lower than it normally is at solar minimum. "If you look at the last time the polar field was that weak, it goes back to the early 1800s during a time called the Dalton Minimum, when we had a low solar activity cycle," he said. The Dalton Minimum lasted from about 1790 to 1830 and coincided with a period of lower-than-average global temperatures.

In addition, Woods says that the solar wind speed is currently lower than normal. But does this mean there will be a big change in the solar cycle? "We don't really know, but we're waiting and watching," he said. "This new cycle could be anomalously low or it could be normal."

Although Cycle 23's 12-year length (it began in 1996) isn't outside the normal range, it might help explain why Cycle 24's activity level is low. Biesecker points out that, based on the previous 22 solar cycles, researchers now know that the longer the previous cycle, the lower the next cycle will be in terms of activity. "So we're definitely edging into that territory now," he said.

According to Woods, even a smaller solar cycle could induce some cooling on Earth. "Not enough to offset the greenhouse gas global warming effect," he said, "but enough to potentially slow it down for a few years." The solar cycle's effect on global temperatures is only about 1/10 of a degree, whereas the greenhouse effect over the past 30 years has been about a full one degree change, Woods said.

Even so, Woods says it's unlikely that we're headed into a "Little Ice Age" scenario. "It's probably unlikely that we will go into a phase where we don't have any sunspot activity for 50 years. We can't eliminate the possibility, but I would say the probability is not high," he said.

"For that to happen, we would have to see no pickup in the Cycle 24 sunspots, but we're seeing a reasonable amount of new activity," said Biesecker. "There is no model we're aware of that can predict that we're going into an ice age -- it's an actual physical limitation of our current understanding."


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from a channeler prince akkiko... http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message756548/pg6
quote:

Re: THE SUN IS ABNORMAL. WHAT'S WRONG??? Now NASA speaks - updated April 2, 2009 Quote

The ELITE knows what is happening with the sun for they are informed by their people in NASA. This is one of the reasons why they stop trading and manufacturing resulting into market downfall. They have lost their desire and enthusiasm to go on with their businesses, and they are actually funding a massive spaceship for their escape. They will bring with them many people that they can enslave after the disaster. The great seed vault is an evidence of their greatest conspiracy.

I am warning these ELITE, you cannot escape the great wrath of the Lord. If you think you can inherit the earth after all these things happened, sorry for you for your spaceship and yourselves will just disintegrate in space due to massive solar heat. Be reminded that it was already decreed that only the meek and humble will inherit the earth. Thank you for the seed vault anyway.

The Geneva project which you wish to utilize in manipulating the universe baffles your mind now and soon it will bring disagreement among you. You cannot just utilize a man-made apparatus to capture the incoming massive planet on our way. Your ally, the old communist empire will be able to improve that technology and will create a laser gun that will make you disintegrate. Leave Geneva now while there is time to avoid the accident which will destroy you.

Returning back to the sun, you ELITE knows the real reason behind its behavior, but because of your selfishness you do not want to disclose the truth for fear of loosing your slaves. You even dug your hole beneath the earth, which may likewise your grave. You will be drowned in the churning water. Your steel, your iron, your clay - cannot resist the force and all that you build is your grave. You ELITE do not know your Creator your God, for your money is your god and your hope is your gold.

The warning is coming, you have little time to amend yourself. Go back to your senses and worship only the One True God.
Quoting: Prince Akkiko


godamit
too long for me too read Talktohand.gif
silangan
Now that we don't have Noah, we turn to NASA.







martin_nuke
The world is doomed.

1. Polar Ice melting Fast.
2. Oceans will rise.
3. The oceanic conveyor current belt will stop because of ocean warming resulting to a new Ice Age in Northern America and Northern Europe and many will freeze to death.
Suzuka00
global warming is illuminati propaganda.
trismegistos
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ Apr 20 2009, 12:05 AM) [snapback]4203251[/snapback]
global warming is illuminati propaganda.


yes, you are right. global warming is a hoax being peddled by the illuminati as a smokescreen to the actual earth changes already happening.
their alibi that all these weather changes is caused by the increased CO2 emissions from industrial pollutants is not true.
all the earth changes will accelerate till 2012.

a mini ice age or a fullblown ice age is very much possible as it is long overdue already.

what this means, is more land or real estate for an archipelagic nation such as the Philippines, and finally the Sunda continent(lemuria) will finally rise. and less land for europe and north america as they will be engulfed with ice.
trismegistos
to continue what i have said in the previous post, that the global warming hoax was created as a smokescreen to the actual earth changes happening even as we speak...
31,478 American scientists including 9,029 with PhDs have signed a petition, to reject the global warming agreement the kyoto protocol as there is no convincing scientific evidence...

http://www.petitionproject.org/

in fact they said that, we are in the contrary experiencing global cooling with the concomitant decrease in sunspot activity as described in earlier posts.
azaz
This is good reading and information. Some scientist here believe that change in EMF will affect DNA.
ShambhalistaLVL5
Even if Global Warming was fake. I would still love it if all our polluting industries were converted into sustainable ones since it will be easier for me to just breathe.
philfighter
^^ I agree. This global warming MAYBE wrong but the for me, the end justifies the means.
martin_nuke
I think its a combination of both Manmade and Nature and because of this the Earth is doomed.
azaz
In the Book of Isaiah, it says that the Earth, because of its sins, will stagger and sway like a drunk man.
arriba
[quote name='trismegistos' date='Apr 19 2009, 06:47 PM' post='4202448']
What's Happening to the Sun?
http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-am...s-happening-sun

quote:

What's Happening to the Sun?
Could its unusual behavior herald a new ice age?
By Laurie J. Schmidt Posted 01.27.2009 at 11:26 am 23 Comments


The First Cycle 24 Sunspot: NOAA

For about 50 years from roughly 1650 to 1700, the Sun took a break from its typical sunspot activity. That phase of solar rest coincided with what we now refer to as "The Little Ice Age" -- a period of cooling on the Earth that resulted in bitterly cold winters, particularly in Europe and North America. Scientists attribute the Little Ice Age to two main causes: increased volcanic activity and reduced solar activity.

Could it happen again? And are we headed there now?

The term "solar activity" refers collectively to sunspots, solar flares, and solar eruptions. Together, these phenomena make up the "space weather" that alters interactions between Earth and its atmosphere, causing potential disruptions to satellites, communications systems, and power grids. Varying levels of solar activity also cause significant changes in atmospheric circulation patterns, which can affect the weather and climate on Earth.

Solar cycles, which last an average of 11 years, are driven by the number, size, and placement of sunspots -- cooler, darker spots on the Sun's surface where intense magnetic activity occurs -- on the Sun's surface. Each cycle is marked by a solar minimum and a solar maximum, meaning the approximate time in the cycle when the least and greatest amounts of solar activity occurred. During the solar minimum, sunspot activity diminishes, and during the maximum greater numbers of sunspots appear. As one cycle winds down and another begins, sunspots from both cycles can be seen simultaneously.

By late 2007, Solar Cycle 23, which began in 1996, was decaying to low activity levels, and NOAA forecasters predicted that Solar Cycle 24 would begin in March 2008, plus or minus six months. Indeed, the new cycle's first sunspot appeared in January 2008 -- its high-latitude location a clear sign that it was part of the new solar cycle. But in the months that followed, there was a marked decrease in sunspot activity, spawning questions about whether we could be headed into another little ice age.

"Everything we're seeing now we've seen the Sun do before, and it still went on to produce a normal solar cycle," said Doug Biesecker, physicist at NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder, Colorado.

After a nine-month lull in solar activity, a batch of five sunspots appeared beginning on October 31, 2008, four of which belonged to the new cycle. And according to Biesecker, so far this year, two sunspots appeared for a total of four days -- one was a Cycle 23 sunspot and one a Cycle 24. "You always get lots of days with no sunspots, and at solar minimum you almost always see sunspots from the new cycle at the same time you're still seeing sunspots from the old cycle. This overlap phase can be just a few months, but it can be as long as two years," he said.

Biesecker says that the longer Cycle 23 drags out, the more we will hear about how the Sun is going quiet. "If you go back to the early 1950s, that solar minimum was very similar to the one we're going through right now," he said. "But it was followed by the largest solar cycle on record. So just because the Sun is quieter than it's been in awhile doesn't really tell us where it's going to be in the future."

Tom Woods, Associate Director for Technical Divisions at the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics (LASP), concurs. "Typically during a solar minimum you will have one or two months with no sunspots, so what we saw in 2008 is typical of most solar cycles," he said.

But Woods points out that there are other indications, aside from sunspot activity, that Cycle 24 may be different. First, the magnetic field at the Sun's poles is about 40 percent lower than it normally is at solar minimum. "If you look at the last time the polar field was that weak, it goes back to the early 1800s during a time called the Dalton Minimum, when we had a low solar activity cycle," he said. The Dalton Minimum lasted from about 1790 to 1830 and coincided with a period of lower-than-average global temperatures.

In addition, Woods says that the solar wind speed is currently lower than normal. But does this mean there will be a big change in the solar cycle? "We don't really know, but we're waiting and watching," he said. "This new cycle could be anomalously low or it could be normal."

Although Cycle 23's 12-year length (it began in 1996) isn't outside the normal range, it might help explain why Cycle 24's activity level is low. Biesecker points out that, based on the previous 22 solar cycles, researchers now know that the longer the previous cycle, the lower the next cycle will be in terms of activity. "So we're definitely edging into that territory now," he said.

According to Woods, even a smaller solar cycle could induce some cooling on Earth. "Not enough to offset the greenhouse gas global warming effect," he said, "but enough to potentially slow it down for a few years." The solar cycle's effect on global temperatures is only about 1/10 of a degree, whereas the greenhouse effect over the past 30 years has been about a full one degree change, Woods said.

Even so, Woods says it's unlikely that we're headed into a "Little Ice Age" scenario. "It's probably unlikely that we will go into a phase where we don't have any sunspot activity for 50 years. We can't eliminate the possibility, but I would say the probability is not high," he said.

"For that to happen, we would have to see no pickup in the Cycle 24 sunspots, but we're seeing a reasonable amount of new activity," said Biesecker. "There is no model we're aware of that can predict that we're going into an ice age -- it's an actual physical limitation of our current understanding."
------
from a channeler prince akkiko... http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message756548/pg6
quote:

Re: THE SUN IS ABNORMAL. WHAT'S WRONG??? Now NASA speaks - updated April 2, 2009 Quote

The ELITE knows what is happening with the sun for they are informed by their people in NASA. This is one of the reasons why they stop trading and manufacturing resulting into market downfall. They have lost their desire and enthusiasm to go on with their businesses, and they are actually funding a massive spaceship for their escape. They will bring with them many people that they can enslave after the disaster. The great seed vault is an evidence of their greatest conspiracy.

I am warning these ELITE, you cannot escape the great wrath of the Lord. If you think you can inherit the earth after all these things happened, sorry for you for your spaceship and yourselves will just disintegrate in space due to massive solar heat. Be reminded that it was already decreed that only the meek and humble will inherit the earth. Thank you for the seed vault anyway.

The Geneva project which you wish to utilize in manipulating the universe baffles your mind now and soon it will bring disagreement among you. You cannot just utilize a man-made apparatus to capture the incoming massive planet on our way. Your ally, the old communist empire will be able to improve that technology and will create a laser gun that will make you disintegrate. Leave Geneva now while there is time to avoid the accident which will destroy you.

Returning back to the sun, you ELITE knows the real reason behind its behavior, but because of your selfishness you do not want to disclose the truth for fear of loosing your slaves. You even dug your hole beneath the earth, which may likewise your grave. You will be drowned in the churning water. Your steel, your iron, your clay - cannot resist the force and all that you build is your grave. You ELITE do not know your Creator your God, for your money is your god and your hope is your gold.

The warning is coming, you have little time to amend yourself. Go back to your senses and worship only the One True God.
Quoting: Prince Akkiko
[/quote



This is complete hogwash. Natrium is the original name of sodium that is why table salt is NaCl or sodium chloride. In its pure form it is a metal. A 6,000 km deep natrium layer on the moon's surface (I assume surface since you said atmosphere) would mean the moon is already twice the size of earth since earth has a radius of only 6,371 km on average.

HO is a radical caused by ionizing radiation hitting water vapor. It has a very very short lifetime and does not accumulate. There are other complete disinformation in this article and the fact that this article saw print is beyond belief.
trismegistos
QUOTE(arriba @ May 2 2009, 06:28 AM) [snapback]4216046[/snapback]
This is complete hogwash. Natrium is the original name of sodium that is why table salt is NaCl or sodium chloride. In its pure form it is a metal. A 6,000 km deep natrium layer on the moon's surface (I assume surface since you said atmosphere) would mean the moon is already twice the size of earth since earth has a radius of only 6,371 km on average.

HO is a radical caused by ionizing radiation hitting water vapor. It has a very very short lifetime and does not accumulate. There are other complete disinformation in this article and the fact that this article saw print is beyond belief.


the free radical ho may have a very short lifetime but in a backdrop of continious onslaught of ionizing radiation from the sun this is very posible.
yes, natrium is latin for sodium.

nasa have observed the natrium layer extending well beyond the diameter of the moon in fact the lunar sodium atmosphere showing its full extent out to 20 lunar radii from the Moon. so 6000km is an understatement.

full abstract is from here... http://aas.org/archives/BAAS/v32n3/dps2000...dps2000/385.htm

to quote:
DPS Pasadena Meeting 2000, 23-27 October 2000
Session 24. Moon and Mercury Posters
Displayed, 1:00pm, Monday - 1:00pm, Friday, Highlighted Tuesday and Thursday, 3:30-6:30pm, C101-C105, C211

[Previous] | [Session 24] | [Next]

[24.04] First Image of the Entire Lunar Sodium Atmosphere

J. K. Wilson, J. Baumgardner, M. Mendillo (Boston University)

We have produced the first image of the lunar sodium atmosphere showing its full extent out to 20 lunar radii from the Moon. We observed the Moon during the total lunar eclipse of July 16, 2000, from Cairns, Australia, using a small telescope with a 50 degree field of view. Images were recorded with an intensified CCD camera, and we used narrow-band filters to separately measure sodium D-line emission and scattered continuum light.

The altitude profile of the sodium emission was similar to that seen in previous observations of the lunar atmosphere in eclipse, with an ~r-1.8 radial power law and an extrapolated limb brightness of order 1 kiloRayleigh.


If you would like more information about this abstract, please follow the link to

The author(s) of this abstract have provided an email address for comments about the abstract: jkwilson@bu.edu

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more info about the lunar sodium atmosphere from here...

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=A...9d892e572ce5e5e

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=A...45566785b7df319

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news023.html


trismegistos
as i have cited the different references to the validity of this natrium or lunar sodium atmosphere.

of course, arriba, ionized sodium in that atmosphere will not appear metallic as you have claimed.

please read the above links.

----as i have said in the earlier post hydroxyl radical is formed continously in our atmosphere just like the ozone radical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyl_radical

quote:
Atmospheric importance

The Hydroxyl radical is often referred to as the "detergent" of the troposphere because it reacts with many pollutants, often acting as the first step to their removal. It also has an important role in eliminating some greenhouse gasses like methane and ozone [1]. The first reaction with many volatile organic compounds (VOCs) is the removal of a hydrogen atom forming water and an alkyl radical (R·).
OH + RH → H2O + R·

The alkyl radical will typically react rapidly with oxygen forming a peroxy radical.
R· + O2 → RO2

The fate of this radical in the troposphere is dependent on factors such as the amount of sunlight (light from the sun), pollution in the atmosphere and the nature of the alkyl radical that formed it.
Fil-Ger
So, this is all very interesting. My dad's an astronomer, and I go to a school where my professor works on the Mars Rover missions...

But you idiots need to stop with your conspiracy $hit. If any of these scientists realized what nuts were gravitating to their message...good Lord.
trismegistos
like arriba calling all these as pure nonsense and crap, and you quickly judging a scientific minded people like me as idiot, let us engage in a very scientific and professional debate with point by point discussion on those questionable areas you deem so unscientific.
just like those areas raised by arriba, i have quickly dismantled all his misconceptions.
to disregard that there is no significant earth changes going on is pure ignorance and stupidity.
come on, you seem to brag of your scientific background, let's see you can stand up to me.
i doubt it you can engage with me in a very scientific and professional manner.
Suzuka00
QUOTE(arriba @ May 2 2009, 06:28 AM) [snapback]4216046[/snapback]
QUOTE(trismegistos @ Apr 19 2009, 06:47 PM) [snapback]4202448[/snapback]

What's Happening to the Sun?
http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-am...s-happening-sun

quote:

What's Happening to the Sun?
Could its unusual behavior herald a new ice age?
By Laurie J. Schmidt Posted 01.27.2009 at 11:26 am 23 Comments


The First Cycle 24 Sunspot: NOAA

For about 50 years from roughly 1650 to 1700, the Sun took a break from its typical sunspot activity. That phase of solar rest coincided with what we now refer to as "The Little Ice Age" -- a period of cooling on the Earth that resulted in bitterly cold winters, particularly in Europe and North America. Scientists attribute the Little Ice Age to two main causes: increased volcanic activity and reduced solar activity.

Could it happen again? And are we headed there now?

The term "solar activity" refers collectively to sunspots, solar flares, and solar eruptions. Together, these phenomena make up the "space weather" that alters interactions between Earth and its atmosphere, causing potential disruptions to satellites, communications systems, and power grids. Varying levels of solar activity also cause significant changes in atmospheric circulation patterns, which can affect the weather and climate on Earth.

Solar cycles, which last an average of 11 years, are driven by the number, size, and placement of sunspots -- cooler, darker spots on the Sun's surface where intense magnetic activity occurs -- on the Sun's surface. Each cycle is marked by a solar minimum and a solar maximum, meaning the approximate time in the cycle when the least and greatest amounts of solar activity occurred. During the solar minimum, sunspot activity diminishes, and during the maximum greater numbers of sunspots appear. As one cycle winds down and another begins, sunspots from both cycles can be seen simultaneously.

By late 2007, Solar Cycle 23, which began in 1996, was decaying to low activity levels, and NOAA forecasters predicted that Solar Cycle 24 would begin in March 2008, plus or minus six months. Indeed, the new cycle's first sunspot appeared in January 2008 -- its high-latitude location a clear sign that it was part of the new solar cycle. But in the months that followed, there was a marked decrease in sunspot activity, spawning questions about whether we could be headed into another little ice age.

"Everything we're seeing now we've seen the Sun do before, and it still went on to produce a normal solar cycle," said Doug Biesecker, physicist at NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder, Colorado.

After a nine-month lull in solar activity, a batch of five sunspots appeared beginning on October 31, 2008, four of which belonged to the new cycle. And according to Biesecker, so far this year, two sunspots appeared for a total of four days -- one was a Cycle 23 sunspot and one a Cycle 24. "You always get lots of days with no sunspots, and at solar minimum you almost always see sunspots from the new cycle at the same time you're still seeing sunspots from the old cycle. This overlap phase can be just a few months, but it can be as long as two years," he said.

Biesecker says that the longer Cycle 23 drags out, the more we will hear about how the Sun is going quiet. "If you go back to the early 1950s, that solar minimum was very similar to the one we're going through right now," he said. "But it was followed by the largest solar cycle on record. So just because the Sun is quieter than it's been in awhile doesn't really tell us where it's going to be in the future."

Tom Woods, Associate Director for Technical Divisions at the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics (LASP), concurs. "Typically during a solar minimum you will have one or two months with no sunspots, so what we saw in 2008 is typical of most solar cycles," he said.

But Woods points out that there are other indications, aside from sunspot activity, that Cycle 24 may be different. First, the magnetic field at the Sun's poles is about 40 percent lower than it normally is at solar minimum. "If you look at the last time the polar field was that weak, it goes back to the early 1800s during a time called the Dalton Minimum, when we had a low solar activity cycle," he said. The Dalton Minimum lasted from about 1790 to 1830 and coincided with a period of lower-than-average global temperatures.

In addition, Woods says that the solar wind speed is currently lower than normal. But does this mean there will be a big change in the solar cycle? "We don't really know, but we're waiting and watching," he said. "This new cycle could be anomalously low or it could be normal."

Although Cycle 23's 12-year length (it began in 1996) isn't outside the normal range, it might help explain why Cycle 24's activity level is low. Biesecker points out that, based on the previous 22 solar cycles, researchers now know that the longer the previous cycle, the lower the next cycle will be in terms of activity. "So we're definitely edging into that territory now," he said.

According to Woods, even a smaller solar cycle could induce some cooling on Earth. "Not enough to offset the greenhouse gas global warming effect," he said, "but enough to potentially slow it down for a few years." The solar cycle's effect on global temperatures is only about 1/10 of a degree, whereas the greenhouse effect over the past 30 years has been about a full one degree change, Woods said.

Even so, Woods says it's unlikely that we're headed into a "Little Ice Age" scenario. "It's probably unlikely that we will go into a phase where we don't have any sunspot activity for 50 years. We can't eliminate the possibility, but I would say the probability is not high," he said.

"For that to happen, we would have to see no pickup in the Cycle 24 sunspots, but we're seeing a reasonable amount of new activity," said Biesecker. "There is no model we're aware of that can predict that we're going into an ice age -- it's an actual physical limitation of our current understanding."
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from a channeler prince akkiko... http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message756548/pg6
quote:

Re: THE SUN IS ABNORMAL. WHAT'S WRONG??? Now NASA speaks - updated April 2, 2009 Quote

The ELITE knows what is happening with the sun for they are informed by their people in NASA. This is one of the reasons why they stop trading and manufacturing resulting into market downfall. They have lost their desire and enthusiasm to go on with their businesses, and they are actually funding a massive spaceship for their escape. They will bring with them many people that they can enslave after the disaster. The great seed vault is an evidence of their greatest conspiracy.

I am warning these ELITE, you cannot escape the great wrath of the Lord. If you think you can inherit the earth after all these things happened, sorry for you for your spaceship and yourselves will just disintegrate in space due to massive solar heat. Be reminded that it was already decreed that only the meek and humble will inherit the earth. Thank you for the seed vault anyway.

The Geneva project which you wish to utilize in manipulating the universe baffles your mind now and soon it will bring disagreement among you. You cannot just utilize a man-made apparatus to capture the incoming massive planet on our way. Your ally, the old communist empire will be able to improve that technology and will create a laser gun that will make you disintegrate. Leave Geneva now while there is time to avoid the accident which will destroy you.

Returning back to the sun, you ELITE knows the real reason behind its behavior, but because of your selfishness you do not want to disclose the truth for fear of loosing your slaves. You even dug your hole beneath the earth, which may likewise your grave. You will be drowned in the churning water. Your steel, your iron, your clay - cannot resist the force and all that you build is your grave. You ELITE do not know your Creator your God, for your money is your god and your hope is your gold.

The warning is coming, you have little time to amend yourself. Go back to your senses and worship only the One True God.
Quoting: Prince Akkiko

This is complete hogwash. Natrium is the original name of sodium that is why table salt is NaCl or sodium chloride. In its pure form it is a metal. A 6,000 km deep natrium layer on the moon's surface (I assume surface since you said atmosphere) would mean the moon is already twice the size of earth since earth has a radius of only 6,371 km on average.

HO is a radical caused by ionizing radiation hitting water vapor. It has a very very short lifetime and does not accumulate. There are other complete disinformation in this article and the fact that this article saw print is beyond belief.

salt atmosphere in the moon is it true or just a gimick.
trismegistos
QUOTE(Suzuka00 @ May 4 2009, 02:49 AM) [snapback]4218869[/snapback]
This is complete hogwash. Natrium is the original name of sodium that is why table salt is NaCl or sodium chloride. In its pure form it is a metal. A 6,000 km deep natrium layer on the moon's surface (I assume surface since you said atmosphere) would mean the moon is already twice the size of earth since earth has a radius of only 6,371 km on average.

HO is a radical caused by ionizing radiation hitting water vapor. It has a very very short lifetime and does not accumulate. There are other complete disinformation in this article and the fact that this article saw print is beyond belief.

salt atmosphere in the moon is it true or just a gimick.

obviously arriba is dumbfounded and could not comment on my retort on post no. 15 and 16. you can go over those links about this lunar ionized sodium atmosphere which extend far beyond the diameter of the moon and sodium is not a metallic element it is an alkali element not having metallic properties.
taybenco
This belongs here

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MANILA, Philippines—Stargazers, take note: The Eta Aquarid meteor showers will be visible on the pre-dawn sky on May 5 or May 6.

According to the astronomical diary of the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical, Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA), the meteors will radiate from the constellation of Aquarius on the eastern sky, particularly from the Y-shaped cluster of three stars called the “Eta.”

The radiant, or source, of the showers will lie virtually on the Earth’s equator, giving quite a show for viewers in the southern hemisphere. Observers in southern hemisphere would see about 30 meteors per hour, said PAGASA.

The meteor showers are the first of two showers in the year that will be visible when the Earth passes close to the orbit of Halley’s Comet. The second is the Orionid meteor showers in October.

According to Astronomy magazine’s website, the Eta Aquarid meteors start as small dust from Halley's Comet during its trips around the Sun. Every May, the Earth encounters the comet's debris stream. The particles travel fast — some at nearly 150,000 mph. As they enter earth’s atmosphere, they burn up and create an incandescent column of air we view as the meteor.

The Eta Aquarids are also one of the year’s consistently good meteor showers and are actually active from April 19 to May 28 and will peak on May 6, according to the website. It added that around 60 meteors could be observed per hour and that the best time to watch out for the showers would be around 3 a.m.

Other significant astronomical events this month, according to PAGASA, are the moon at apogee, or farthest distance from the Earth, on May 11, and the moon at perigee, or the nearest distance to the Earth, on May 26.
Fil-Ger
meh
trismegistos
as i have foreseen you cant engage in a very professional and scientific debate or discussion, mr. filger.
Suzuka00
QUOTE(taybenco @ May 5 2009, 02:58 AM) [snapback]4220277[/snapback]
This belongs here

Maybe I'll make a wish later.
trismegistos
copy pasted from the NASA website... http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/16...giantbreach.htm

quote:
Solar Storms coming soon?
NASA - A Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field
"Dec. 16, 2008: NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics...In the language of space physics, a north-pointing solar magnetic field is called a "northern IMF" and it is synonymous with shields up!...

Northern IMF events don't actually trigger geomagnetic storms, notes Raeder, but they do set the stage for storms by loading the magnetosphere with plasma. A loaded magnetosphere is primed for auroras, power outages, and other disturbances that can result when, say, a CME (coronal mass ejection) hits.

The years ahead could be especially lively. Raeder explains: "We're entering Solar Cycle 24. For reasons not fully understood, CMEs in even-numbered solar cycles (like 24) tend to hit Earth with a leading edge that is magnetized north. Such a CME should open a breach and load the magnetosphere with plasma just before the storm gets underway. It's the perfect sequence for a really big event."

Sibeck agrees. "This could result in stronger geomagnetic storms than we have seen in many years."

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YouTube - Scientists find hole in Earth's Magnetic field
(note the jellyfish shape of the earth's magnetic field esp. near the end of the two minute video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MMJDTfae4M

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http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0211/04soho/

Spaceflight Now | Breaking News | A spectacular solar show
"CMEs are billion-ton eruptions of plasma from the Sun. CMEs are blasted from the Sun at high speeds, ranging from 125 to 1,550 miles per second (about 200 to 2,500 kilometers per second). Normally the ones directed at Earth are potentially harmful, depending on the orientation of the magnetic field in the CME plasma cloud, the CME's speed, and the plasma density. If directed at Earth, the CME plasma is harmless to people but slams into the Earth's magnetic field, distorting it like a jellyfish buffeted by a strong current."

I have heard such preparation speak for impending 600 mph winds and now hearing this, solar winds would be the perfect explanation for insane weather on top of HAARP; in fact, I would venture to say HAARP may have caused the expansion of the hole in the magnetic field.

An extreme storm/wind could wipe out our communications, radio, electrical grid, satellites. Yikes.
--Sharpinla http://indigosociety.com/solar-storms-coming-soon-t19279/

---end of plagiarism---
trismegistos
I have discussed previously about Global warming hoax as just a smokescreen by the elites to the actual solar system and earth changes that are happening.

For the good news, with the coming mini-ice age or full-blown ice age would mean more land and real estate to an archipelagic nations such as the Philippines. Bad news to the temperate areas as their land will be engulfed with ice.

Many scientists are in agreement we are long overdue for an ice age. They have noted the connection between reduced sunspot activity with ice age.

Some have noted significant drops in global temperature...

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monit...rticle10866.htm

quote:
Global Cooling is coming!
Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.
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c/o of Braveheart21 in his own words:
Now, I'm beginning to think that this global warming is a farce, like some kind of end time doom cult promoted by politicians.

It's simply the sun. End of story.---end of quote---

A very lare real estate will arise with the retreating sea level...

http://www.grahamhancock.com/images/underworld/Sundaland.gif

The gif image above shows southeast asia during the last ice age. The large real estate then was called Sundaland whom many neo-theosophists and various inner circles termed as the Motherland or Mu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland
http://alamat.cas.upm.edu.ph/background.html
http://sambali.blogspot.com/2004/12/sundaland.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1262090/posts
http://atlan.org/articles/sci.html
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