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azaz
Our national debt will never be repaid at its current course. It will continue to pin our country down like a heavy a burden on our back. Once, Todd Alphine said that banks give 50% discount if debts are paid in cash. I cannot confirm if this is true or if the Philippines has tried to avail of this package.
renascimento
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Our national debt will never be repaid at its current course. It will continue to pin our country down like a heavy a burden on our back. Once, Todd Alphine said that banks give 50% discount if debts are paid in cash. I cannot confirm if this is true or if the Philippines has tried to avail of this package.


i've always wondered what would happen if the dollar would be massively devalued over-night. bad for all the OFWs and the current economic system. but the debt would be immediately reduced. but this is j just speculation, like what to do with gold hidden away in the Swiss mountains. BTW who was this Mr. Klauze character?
Suzuka00
QUOTE (renascimento @ Jul 24 2009, 11:59 AM) *
and come to think of it the first historical document of the Philippines is about DEBT FORGIVENESS, written there on the Laguna Copperplate.

It is almost about a count asking for amnesty to the king and also maybe about the marriage of the count to a princess maybe.

Our country is on the same situation as iran is now in which some of it's former territories that were a part of the influence sphere of our five kingdoms that are allied to each other were put in other countries carved by europeans,like North Sulawesi and Sabah were put in malaysia and indonesia,the same is in iran,afghanistan,east turkey,north and used to be iran but were carved out by the british and ottomans and they also made iranians tribalistic too....
azaz
QUOTE (renascimento @ Jul 26 2009, 02:33 AM) *
i've always wondered what would happen if the dollar would be massively devalued over-night. bad for all the OFWs and the current economic system. but the debt would be immediately reduced. but this is j just speculation, like what to do with gold hidden away in the Swiss mountains. BTW who was this Mr. Klauze character?


The value of the US dollar depends on the trust Americans and the rest of the world give to the government of the United States of America to pay it. And it seems that the financial acceptability of most currencies like our peso lies on the measure of dollar reserves. What will happen to the peso if the dollar does devalue massively? Will international banks honor and accept the peso for debt payment? As for the US dollar, it seems that there is some desire to slowly replace it or to have it again back by gold. But US gold reserve at Fort Knox, just around 5,000 MT, only $150 billion at $30 million/MT, would not be enough to support the US dollar around the world. It needs more. Much more...
Suzuka00
QUOTE (azaz @ Jul 28 2009, 10:04 PM) *
The value of the US dollar depends on the trust Americans and the rest of the world give to the government of the United States of America to pay it. And it seems that the financial acceptability of most currencies like our peso lies on the measure of dollar reserves. What will happen to the peso if the dollar does devalue massively? Will international banks honor and accept the peso for debt payment? As for the US dollar, it seems that there is some desire to slowly replace it or to have it again back by gold. But US gold reserve at Fort Knox, just around 5,000 MT, only $150 billion at $30 million/MT, would not be enough to support the US dollar around the world. It needs more. Much more...

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Chinese Secret Society
Challenges Illuminati
By Henry Makow PhD
6-30-7

A Chinese secret society with 6 million members, including 1.8 million Asian gangsters and 100,000 professional assassins, have targeted Illuminati members if they proceed with world depopulation plans, according to Tokyo-based journalist Benjamin Fulford, 46.

They contacted Fulford, a Canadian ex pat, after he warned that the Illuminati plan to reduce the Asian population to just 500 million by means of race-specific biological weapons.

"The Illuminati, with the exception of Japan, is very much a white man's game," Fulford says.

The secret society confirmed Fulford's information and asked him for advice. He provided a list of 10,000 people associated with the Illuminati, mainly members of the Bilderberg, CFR and Skull and Bones. Neo Cons are also high priority targets.

"I have been promised that not a single person will die if they negotiate in good faith," Fulford says.





Fulford is the former Asian Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine. He quit in disgust when Forbes refused to run a damaging story about one of its advertisers. Fulford has since written 15 books in Japanese. His most recent is a scathing dissection of the 9-11 Hoax.

Fulford says Japan has been controlled in secret by the Illuminati through the use of murder and bribery. Underground sources tell him the Americans have murdered over 200 Japanese politicians and influential citizens since the end of WW2.

Among the victims are former Prime Ministers Tanaka, Take$hita, Ohira and Obuchi. They were all murdered using a special drug that induces strokes. The Illuminati have been warned that the Chinese secret society will not tolerate any more murders. It has also extended its protection to truth seekers in the West.

ANCIENT SECRET SOCIETY

The Chinese Secret Society is called the "The Green and the Red Societies," Fulford says.

It "can be found in the history books. When the Manchus invaded China in 1644 the Ming army became an underground society aimed at overthrowing the Qing (Manchu) and restoring the Ming. They supported the Boxer Rebellion but were put down by imperialist powers. Later, with the help of overseas Chinese and the Japanese imperial family, the society managed to overthrow the last Emperor and install Sun Yat Sen in his place. They last appear in the history books as the Green Gang and the Red Gang that fiercely fought the Communists in Shanghai in the 1940's. They were defeated by the Communists in 1949 and once again became an underground organization."

"Since 1949 they have steadily increased their influence throughout China and the rest of the world. They have members at the very highest levels of the Chinese government but they are by nature anti-establishment, and are not an official Chinese government organization...

"The society has deep roots in Japan because of the link between Yakuza crime gangs and the Japanese imperial family. The Japanese imperial family are descended from 6th century Korean invaders. The original invaders had trouble putting down the native Jomon peoples so they brought over a tough, warlike minority people from the Asian mainland. These are the ancestors of the Yakuza. They have historically been used for secret work and for jobs like collecting taxes. When the Japanese decided to help overthrow the last Chinese dynasty, they used the Yakuza as a go-between with the Chinese secret society, many of whose members were gangsters. To this day many of the senior leaders of this group are actually Japanese, not Chinese.

"It must be made very clear though that it is not a crime gang. Although many members are Triad and Yakuza members, over 2/3 thirds of the members are intellectuals such as university professors, researchers and government bureaucrats. Each member earns their own living and membership in the society is like belonging to an emergency fire brigade. Their book of rules reads like a book of ethics filled with instructions to do things like help the weak, fight injustice, help your comrades etc."

"They approached me and asked if they could help after I made a speech in Tokyo describing the Bush regimes' use of race-specific biological weapons. For me it was like a ghost from the history books appearing right in front of me. At first I thought of silly things like having them play 911 truth videos in Chinatowns around the world. However, then I remembered the scene from the movie Kill Bill where Uma Thurman snatches out her opponent's eye. I soon realized these people could save the world by directly attacking the eye at the top of the pyramid on the one-dollar bill."

"Think about it, the Illuminati and their top servants have a total membership of about 10,000 whereas the Chinese group has over 6 million members. That is 600 to one odds. Furthermore, the 6 million have the names and addresses of the 10,000 while the 10,000 do not know who or where the 6 million are."

FULFORD ON THE ILLUMINATI

"Below is a brief a summary of the intelligence I have received from sources including: former Japanese Prime Ministers, senior Yakuza gangsters, senior Japanese Freemasons, Western intelligence agencies etc.

"First the Illuminati are really inbred families of European and North American traditional aristocracy and banking families. They control the U.S., England, Europe (except for Scandinavian countries, Germany and Italy; Italy kicked them out in the 1970's),Japan, Africa, Iran, Canada and Mexico. They do not control China, Russia (Putin kicked them out for the first time since 1917), India, South East Asia, South America, Cuba etc.

"Their goal is to create a world government. Until 2 years ago the plan was the New World Order. That was outlined pretty clearly in the Project for a New American Century. However, with the debacle in Iraq, the secret government of the West changed to a new plan that is a world government based on the EU. To do this they will sabotage the U.S. economy.

"However, there is a big schism in the secret government. Jay Rockefeller and Philip Rothschild support one faction, the Global Warming Faction. Opposing them is the War on Terrorism Faction supported by David Rockefeller and the JP Morgan descendants (Bush, Harriman, Walker etc.). The warming people want to sell 500 nuclear power plants to China and a similar amount to the rest of the world. The terrorism guys want to keep U.S. dominance by maintaining control over oil. Putin was a huge setback for them.

"They are also neo-Nazis who want to reduce the amount of colored people in the world by at least half through disease, starvation and war. The Chinese secret society got wind of this and is preparing to stop them."

GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA NOT ILLUMINATI?

I challenged Fulford on Germany, Italy, Scandinavia and possibly Russia not being controlled by the Illuminati. He replied that "the quality of my intelligence varies":

"I can say with certainty that China, Russia and India are free. When Putin kicked out Nieslev and Bereshovsky and arrested Khordokovsky, he basically kicked the Rockefellers and Rothschilds out of Russia. I have good Russian sources and am confident Putin is a nationalist who is fighting the Illuminati with all his might. When ex-NSA chief Bobby Inman spoke at the Foreign Correspondent's Club of Japan on June 26th he made it very clear he expected a protracted struggle with Russia.

"India kicked them out in Ghandi's day and they have never been allowed back. Having liberated themselves after 300 years of Illuminati (East India Company) rule, they do not intend to let themselves fall under their control again.

"There have been many attempts by the Illuminati to infiltrate and dominate China. They financed Chairman Mao but he then kicked them out in the 1960's (that is why China and the USSR nearly went to war then). They are now trying to create a financial crisis in China that would open the way for them to infiltrate the Chinese financial system. They will not succeed. Italy basically purged itself during the big P2 Masonic lodge scandal back in the 80's and re-infiltration has only been partly successful. Germany is part of the Nato alliance and is thus indirectly controlled. There is a powerful branch of the Rothschild family operating there.

"However, Germany does not appear on a top-secret Illuminati power flow chart I have obtained. As far as Iran is concerned, I know they financed Ayatollah Khomeini and Iran appears on the flow chart I have. My understanding is they want to provoke a conflict between Islam and the West so they can consolidate their control over the Muslim and Christian worlds before finishing world conquest by taking over China and India."

CONCLUSION

Fulford says a meeting is being arranged with Russia's Vladimir Putin to make sure the KGB also cooperates in this plan to snatch the eye out of the pyramid.

"So far, I have told the Illuminati that they are no longer allowed to murder Japanese politicians. I now plan to extend this protection to all politicians in the West. If the Illuminati assassinate or attempt to assassinate Ron Paul, Barak Obama or any politician, may God have mercy on their souls."

"Since I am a peace-loving, laid-back Canadian suddenly put in a situation of great responsibility, I feel I must act as a servant of the weakest people and creatures on the planet. I have also been negotiating in secret with the Illuminati in the hopes of arranging for them to cede power without any bloodshed in exchange for a general amnesty.

"I do believe we now have a real chance to end the New World Order and start the New Age. The New Age would be one where war, poverty and environmental destruction would only be found in the history books."

I applaud Benjamin Fulford's courage, idealism and defiance. However, he is new to this subject and may have been mislead. He shouldn't use Illuminati terminology like "New Age." The Illuminati control the central banks of Russia, China, India and Venezuela. They control the EU. Germany may not appear on the Illuminati chart because it is at the top. Barak Obama is a Zionist stooge. The Illuminati Li Ka-Shing (and family) has had a major role in China. Heck, the Communists are Illuminati. I thought the Illuminati controlled organized crime. I can't imagine a genuinely benevolent secret society. It would be encouraging if this were one.

It's possible Fulford is sincere but is being used to confuse and/or create divisions. Possibly they want to ramp up domestic terrorism as an excuse for martial law. Now, Orientals as well as Muslims could be on the watch list. This Chinese society is challenging the traitorous Western Establishment. We're talking about the State apparatus! So please be critical. It may or may not be true. Time will tell.

In any case, it's time we refused to bow down to tyranny and called a spade a spade.

Imagine, in Japan he writes the truth in the mainstream media! Maybe some day, we'll do that in America. Benjamin Fulford is an inspiration and he deserves our thanks.

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Henry Makow Ph.D. is the inventor of the game Scruples and author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles exposing fe-manism and the New World Order can be found at his web site www.savethemales.ca He enjoys receiving comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only. hmakow@gmail.com


http://www.rense.com/general77/chinsec.htm


I think Luzon has a potential to become a nuclear power that is a potential threat to Illuminati that is why they tried to pacify it by using the spanish and americans.
azaz
QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Jul 29 2009, 10:44 AM) *
http://www.rense.com/general77/chinsec.htm


I think Luzon has a potential to become a nuclear power that is a potential threat to Illuminati that is why they tried to pacify it by using the spanish and americans.

Todd Alphine at the Ming Forum for the last five years has been quite precise in predicting world events, not because he is a good economist, but because he somewhat knew events are part of an ongoing design. He knew five years ago that US dollar is going to dive, that oil will reach $100/barrel (which it did), at a time when it was ridiculous to believe. His greatest concern was the gold bullion of/from the Philippines. It seems that this Philippine gold plays an important role in this on going design. Everything seems to be happening at the backstage and we only see what the designers wants to show.
Suzuka00
QUOTE (azaz @ Jul 31 2009, 10:20 PM) *
Todd Alphine at the Ming Forum for the last five years has been quite precise in predicting world events, not because he is a good economist, but because he somewhat knew events are part of an ongoing design. He knew five years ago that US dollar is going to dive, that oil will reach $100/barrel (which it did), at a time when it was ridiculous to believe. His greatest concern was the gold bullion of/from the Philippines. It seems that this Philippine gold plays an important role in this on going design. Everything seems to be happening at the backstage and we only see what the designers wants to show.

That is why they christianized the four kingdoms that would be philippines so that they can leech on them,that is what they did on the rest of south east asia actually.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...80&start=80
azaz
It is good that Mrs. Imelda Marcos seeks reconciliation with the Aquino family. She might also be a key to this Philippine gold. But the problem remains that this matter does not seem to be of national interest as our national debt balloons to $90 billion without any clear solution.
trismegistos
QUOTE (azaz @ Aug 4 2009, 01:00 AM) *
It is good that Mrs. Imelda Marcos seeks reconciliation with the Aquino family. She might also be a key to this Philippine gold. But the problem remains that this matter does not seem to be of national interest as our national debt balloons to $90 billion without any clear solution.

Cory Aquino in her deathbed could have shared to her eldest and favorite daughter, "who could be the mastermind of the killing of her husband" or perhaps it's an open secret to them even before Cory succumbed to the illness. It's the eldest daughter herself(together with the grandsons)who entertained Imee Marcos and Bongbong when the Marcos family went to the Manila Cathedral to paid their respects. Is this an acknowledgement that the Marcoses were innocent?
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4305749
renascimento
so, the gold is going to China now ? bawling.gif

has that illuminati vs triads vs benjamin fulford vs putin story anything to do with this at all? eek.gif

This looks like a informative site!

Suzuka00
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 4 2009, 04:29 AM) *
Cory Aquino in her deathbed could have shared to her eldest and favorite daughter, "who could be the mastermind of the killing of her husband" or perhaps it's an open secret to them even before Cory succumbed to the illness. It's the eldest daughter herself(together with the grandsons)who entertained Imee Marcos and Bongbong when the Marcos family went to the Manila Cathedral to paid their respects. Is this an acknowledgement that the Marcoses were innocent?
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4305749

I believe it is the minions of Ramos that did that.....
azaz
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 4 2009, 04:29 AM) *
Cory Aquino in her deathbed could have shared to her eldest and favorite daughter, "who could be the mastermind of the killing of her husband" or perhaps it's an open secret to them even before Cory succumbed to the illness. It's the eldest daughter herself(together with the grandsons)who entertained Imee Marcos and Bongbong when the Marcos family went to the Manila Cathedral to paid their respects. Is this an acknowledgement that the Marcoses were innocent?
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4305749

One element that is not always included in our general grid in analyzing the life of Marcos, was the large bullion of Philippine gold that was before him. It could had influenced most of his political decisions. But I do not think it would be up to the point of making Sen. Benigno Aquino a martyr. Marcos could have had thought that he really needed power and more time to consolidate his plan to meet his objectives but not chaos that was brought by the assassination of Ninoy.

As for the gold going to China, I think it is also going to many places around the world. Probably even some to the World Bank where the Philippines would borrow again.
Suzuka00
QUOTE (azaz @ Aug 5 2009, 12:44 AM) *
One element that is not always included in our general grid in analyzing the life of Marcos, was the large bullion of Philippine gold that was before him. It could had influenced most of his political decisions. But I do not think it would be up to the point of making Sen. Benigno Aquino a martyr. Marcos could have had thought that he really needed power and more time to consolidate his plan to meet his objectives but not chaos that was brought by the assassination of Ninoy.

As for the gold going to China, I think it is also going to many places around the world. Probably even some to the World Bank where the Philippines would borrow again.

Those leechers will lose someday....
renascimento
the quest for the gold is starting to end like this novel. It's about silver though biggrin.gif

In German there is the saying Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold.
gabrielj81
There are countries that have a lack of natural resources and yet become much richer than Philippines is today.
The only resource they have is a population with a higher innate intelligence.
orient
QUOTE (gabrielj81 @ Aug 5 2009, 10:04 AM) *
There are countries that have a lack of natural resources and yet become much richer than Philippines is today.
The only resource they have is a population with a higher innate intelligence.


Yeah, yeah, we know. No need to rub it in but do tell that to the TS. embarassedlaugh.gif
renascimento
QUOTE (gabrielj81 @ Aug 5 2009, 12:04 PM) *
There are countries that have a lack of natural resources and yet become much richer than Philippines is today.
The only resource they have is a population with a higher innate intelligence.


my innate senses always told me that filipinos have a far to high intelligence. that's why they end up looting or scamming each other bawling.gif eek.gif
trismegistos
QUOTE (renascimento @ Aug 5 2009, 11:33 AM) *
the quest for the gold is starting to end like this novel. It's about silver though biggrin.gif

In German there is the saying Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold.


Medyo nahirapan ako sa paghanap ng translation nyang German proverb na iyan ha.
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Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold
Lit.: Talking is Silver, Silence is Gold
English Proverb: Talk is cheap, silence is golden.

It seems not applicable in this case, this old simple proverb seems more applicable, "He who has the gold makes the rules"
This is the golden rule of our greedy elites. he he
Quite similar is the words uttered by the character in Dune: He who controls the spice, controls the universe. http://asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/spiceroutes.htm
The forerunner of our banking system or financial system was patterned from the Medici banking family who controlled the trading of spices in Medieval Europe.

The quest for gold or material riches has been the subject of wars of kingdoms, and started the "Age of Exploration" and finally the subjugation of Indians of Latin Americas, and the Indios of the East Indies or Third World countries(paradoxically are rich in natural resources)which remained in bondage even up to now.
In the Age of the El dorados or Age of Abundance in the Indies both East and West, those of the pure heart, had the gold, and made the rules. e.g. the model: Philosopher King like the Mihraj of Zabag, the El Dorado of Indians, the Kalki King of Shamballa, The Sripala of Suvarnadvipa, The Medieval Romances' Prester John of Greater India, the Maharaja of Srivijaya, whom early Chinese scholars and pilgrims like I-Ching said was a fountain of Wisdom.
Unlike in this almost ending Age of Scarcity, the current financial system promoted the enriching of very few elites with a greedy heart so not necessarily "with a higher innate intelligence". he he
So an unscrupulous businessman or politician who cheats and bribes has a higher chance of making on top. So this breeds the ills of society and corruptions found in third world countries including the Philippines which has the Gold. Even Jose Rizal noted these and how different it was back then before the Spaniards came where Malays were wealthy and full of integrity and honesty.

Sic transit Gloria Mundi

Mabuhay mga Los Indios Bravos!
Ipagbunyi ang Lahing Kayumanggi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEdEew_3S2Y
renascimento
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 5 2009, 08:13 PM) *
It seems not applicable in this case, this old simple proverb seems more applicable, "He who has the gold makes the rules"
This is the golden rule of our greedy elites. he he
Quite similar is the words uttered by the character in Dune: He who controls the spice, controls the universe. http://asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/spiceroutes.htm
The forerunner of our banking system or financial system was patterned from the Medici banking family who controlled the trading of spices in Medieval Europe.


wow, actually my hope was that in such a crisis certain members of the elite will act responsibly and help those in need. but that just makes me some stupid Don Quixote, naively believing in romantic history and the innate goodness of mankind. confused.gif

on the other hand, my cynical world view tells me that with great wealth also comes great doom, curses connected with golden or silver hoards (even if they are legitimate).
Suzuka00
Without spanish colonization,the filipinos will be identified with Luzon and will be called as Lusong people because the non-luzon filipinos inc.gorontalo,yami and mongondow are just a subset of the Luzon people even the linguistics will say that.
trismegistos
QUOTE (renascimento @ Aug 6 2009, 01:06 AM) *
on the other hand, my cynical world view tells me that with great wealth also comes great doom, curses connected with golden or silver hoards (even if they are legitimate).

Gold is either a blessing or a curse depends on who holds it. Remember the 3 gifts of the Three Magi/Magicians from the East, which were Gold and the two spices, frankincense and myrhh.

QUOTE (renascimento @ Aug 6 2009, 01:06 AM) *
wow, actually my hope was that in such a crisis certain members of the elite will act responsibly and help those in need. but that just makes me some stupid Don Quixote, naively believing in romantic history and the innate goodness of mankind.

There are good guys and there are bad guys.
There's innate goodness even in the bad guys. The bad guys however chose to embody the anti-man. But most of the elites are just plain oblivious to the influence of the dark side and that they are made instruments by the latter. Hope they wake up and act responsibly as you said.
You can try reading these...
http://erleargonza.blogspot.com/2009/01/20...depression.html
http://erleargonza.blogspot.com/2008/12/ec...nge-of-new.html
azaz
QUOTE (gabrielj81 @ Aug 5 2009, 01:04 PM) *
There are countries that have a lack of natural resources and yet become much richer than Philippines is today.
The only resource they have is a population with a higher innate intelligence.

Daniel Dingel (http://danieldingel.com/) is just one example of a Filipino who was not allowed by its own Central Bank of the Philippines to develop his higher innate intelligence because it would threaten the benefactor countries of the bank. The Philippines seems to be not allowed in the industrial section of world development. If it did, then Dingel's water powered car could have rendered fossil fuel powered car obsolete by now. Other areas which the Philippines can excel are aircraft and missile technology (w/c ex Pres. Marcos also ventured into), robotics, and even shipbuilding, many more... but all these, like all other industrial nations, need capital. I also hope that the Bangko Sentral start to consider giving subsidy to farmers on rice production, just like in Japan. It is an incentive long due to farmers to help raise his standard of living and not abandon the farm (and congest the city). It may also attract the unemployed in the cities back to the farms. Sustained development needs capital. It cannot be done alone with just plain "higher innate intelligence" of the population. One way or the other, the countries you are referring had borrowed capital from banks or had benefitted from proceeds of gold bullions that originated from the Philippines. With regards to "innate intelligence" mixed with corruption, see Renascimento's post.
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I should add this post from Ming's. Some of you might know this people/family:


6 Aug 2009 @ 08:23 by Ref: BEN Cailao and his family @220.57.164.61 : PUBLIC NOTICE about J.A. Diaz Last Will
Look I do not give a damn if anyone collected on this $500 million dollar Last Will or not, but I think that a lot of the families of the persons, that were named in that Last Will, have a right to become informed, for the potential for them to collect something. I am not a God damn Attorney but do feel that if the families never knew that their families were entitled, then I felt it was a moral issue, not to have at least made some statements, as Hell, maybe someone reading this Ming forum, knows some of hthose remaining families members and that can maybe lead to some recovery. For example there is a person named BEN TORRES to have been mentioned in that Last Will for $ 25,000,000.oo US currency for him and HIS FAMILY so this is damn clear that HIS FAMILY was mentioned in the holographic Last Will and that Last Will was probated, so does anyone know how to contatc any members of this family family? The dead line is JANUARY 2010. Just because Ben may be deceased, does not mean that his family cannot be next in line to get paid something, right?



orient
QUOTE (azaz @ Aug 8 2009, 05:17 AM) *
Daniel Dingel (http://danieldingel.com/) is just one example of a Filipino who was not allowed by its own Central Bank of the Philippines to develop his higher innate intelligence because it would threaten the benefactor countries of the bank. The Philippines seems to be not allowed in the industrial section of world development. If it did, then Dingel's water powered car could have rendered fossil fuel powered car obsolete by now. Other areas which the Philippines can excel are aircraft and missile technology (w/c ex Pres. Marcos also ventured into), robotics, and even shipbuilding, many more... but all these, like all other industrial nations, need capital. I also hope that the Bangko Sentral start to consider giving subsidy to farmers on rice production, just like in Japan. It is an incentive long due to farmers to help raise his standard of living and not abandon the farm (and congest the city). It may also attract the unemployed in the cities back to the farms. Sustained development needs capital. It cannot be done alone with just plain "higher innate intelligence" of the population. One way or the other, the countries you are referring had borrowed capital from banks or had benefitted from proceeds of gold bullions that originated from the Philippines. With regards to "innate intelligence" mixed with corruption, see Renascimento's post.
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I should add this post from Ming's. Some of you might know this people/family:


6 Aug 2009 @ 08:23 by Ref: BEN Cailao and his family @220.57.164.61 : PUBLIC NOTICE about J.A. Diaz Last Will
Look I do not give a damn if anyone collected on this $500 million dollar Last Will or not, but I think that a lot of the families of the persons, that were named in that Last Will, have a right to become informed, for the potential for them to collect something. I am not a God damn Attorney but do feel that if the families never knew that their families were entitled, then I felt it was a moral issue, not to have at least made some statements, as Hell, maybe someone reading this Ming forum, knows some of hthose remaining families members and that can maybe lead to some recovery. For example there is a person named BEN TORRES to have been mentioned in that Last Will for $ 25,000,000.oo US currency for him and HIS FAMILY so this is damn clear that HIS FAMILY was mentioned in the holographic Last Will and that Last Will was probated, so does anyone know how to contatc any members of this family family? The dead line is JANUARY 2010. Just because Ben may be deceased, does not mean that his family cannot be next in line to get paid something, right?


Daniel Dingel's water powered car is a HOAX!!! rotflmao.gif
Suzuka00
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 6 2009, 08:09 AM) *
Gold is either a blessing or a curse depends on who holds it. Remember the 3 gifts of the Three Magi/Magicians from the East, which were Gold and the two spices, frankincense and myrhh.


There are good guys and there are bad guys.
There's innate goodness even in the bad guys. The bad guys however chose to embody the anti-man. But most of the elites are just plain oblivious to the influence of the dark side and that they are made instruments by the latter. Hope they wake up and act responsibly as you said.
You can try reading these...
http://erleargonza.blogspot.com/2009/01/20...depression.html
http://erleargonza.blogspot.com/2008/12/ec...nge-of-new.html

What the illuminati does is that they destroy the integrity of the kingdoms/countries they conquer so that they can make them submit.
azaz
Below is the list of beneficiaries from the Holographic Last Will of Jose Antonio Diaz also known as Severino Garcia Santa Romana. Descendants seems also advised to claim. I do not know the criteria of Victoria and Samco for claiming but maybe assistance from Mr. John Arcane or Mr. Todd Alphine can be asked if there are claimants. Media can pick this up if they want. Deadline is January 2010:


Liza (Santa Romana?) was given US$ 50, million dollars while
Pedro and Rolando = US 5 million dollars
carmencita and ethelinda weere given were given 50million US dolars and 40 million US dollar + 10 Million pesos respectively.
Tarciana and Luz were both given 50 million UD dollar and 100 million US dollars respectiveley
for GIL del leon , Loy Torre, Atty. Luiz Cuevas and Ben cailao were all given 25 million Dollars
while his doctor Buindia was given 50, million US dollars
200,000 US$$ for the wife and children of Luiz Cuevas
5 million US $$$ for Mike Sta Romana
1 milion US $$ fro Emily Reyes
5 million US $$$ for his brother Federico Mateo
500 thousand dollar for each of the children of Luz Rambano ( AKA Luz sta romana ) but neve mentioned there that CEB Brown is a recepient of the Holo Last Will since according to CE Brown he is the heir of STA ROmana , he owns 50% of Sta Romana Estate ( why didi STA Romana married to Jim Brown in GAY right in california court??? )
50 million US $$$ for Jose Velasquez
30 thousand US $$ for mrs Velasquez
1.5 million US $$ for Atyy de guzman
1 million US $$ for mr fernandez
500K US $$$ for Billy, Egnr. Aguas, Panopio and barinki
400K us $$$ for Bautista, Katindoy and Eugenio
20 million US dollar for leyte people
100 million for all the forgotten friends . it is not also mentioned that Joseph ES Daraman, Virgilio Hizon Marcelo. Tiburcio Sta Romana, Renato Sta Romana, Alex Hermano, Atty, Anotnio Relova, and oterh so called son adn daughte of STA ROMANA were not given any consideration to received money, Don,t wory guys you already earn millions from Scamming activities,
it was also stated in the probated last will that the COMMITTEE WILL BE INCHARGE FOR ALL OTHER MONEY DEPSOSITED WORLDWIDE AND MUST FOLLOW WAHT WAS WRITEN ON THE INSTRUCTION. GIVEN BY SGSR/JOSE ANONTIO DIAZ
gabrielj81
If a country can become wealthy even without mineral or oil natural resources, but depends on the abilities and intelligence of its people alone, then that'll be more impressive and something to be proud of.
Suzuka00
QUOTE (azaz @ Aug 9 2009, 01:37 AM) *
Below is the list of beneficiaries from the Holographic Last Will of Jose Antonio Diaz also known as Severino Garcia Santa Romana. Descendants seems also advised to claim. I do not know the criteria of Victoria and Samco for claiming but maybe assistance from Mr. John Arcane or Mr. Todd Alphine can be asked if there are claimants. Media can pick this up if they want. Deadline is January 2010:


Liza (Santa Romana?) was given US$ 50, million dollars while
Pedro and Rolando = US 5 million dollars
carmencita and ethelinda weere given were given 50million US dolars and 40 million US dollar + 10 Million pesos respectively.
Tarciana and Luz were both given 50 million UD dollar and 100 million US dollars respectiveley
for GIL del leon , Loy Torre, Atty. Luiz Cuevas and Ben cailao were all given 25 million Dollars
while his doctor Buindia was given 50, million US dollars
200,000 US$$ for the wife and children of Luiz Cuevas
5 million US $$$ for Mike Sta Romana
1 milion US $$ fro Emily Reyes
5 million US $$$ for his brother Federico Mateo
500 thousand dollar for each of the children of Luz Rambano ( AKA Luz sta romana ) but neve mentioned there that CEB Brown is a recepient of the Holo Last Will since according to CE Brown he is the heir of STA ROmana , he owns 50% of Sta Romana Estate ( why didi STA Romana married to Jim Brown in GAY right in california court??? )
50 million US $$$ for Jose Velasquez
30 thousand US $$ for mrs Velasquez
1.5 million US $$ for Atyy de guzman
1 million US $$ for mr fernandez
500K US $$$ for Billy, Egnr. Aguas, Panopio and barinki
400K us $$$ for Bautista, Katindoy and Eugenio
20 million US dollar for leyte people
100 million for all the forgotten friends . it is not also mentioned that Joseph ES Daraman, Virgilio Hizon Marcelo. Tiburcio Sta Romana, Renato Sta Romana, Alex Hermano, Atty, Anotnio Relova, and oterh so called son adn daughte of STA ROMANA were not given any consideration to received money, Don,t wory guys you already earn millions from Scamming activities,
it was also stated in the probated last will that the COMMITTEE WILL BE INCHARGE FOR ALL OTHER MONEY DEPSOSITED WORLDWIDE AND MUST FOLLOW WAHT WAS WRITEN ON THE INSTRUCTION. GIVEN BY SGSR/JOSE ANONTIO DIAZ

In the mean time I converted texts from philippine languages to arabic script,arabic script does fit our languages,without spanish colonization our languages will be written like the ones converted in arabic alphabet.
latin
▪ Akeanon: Ro uwa' gatan-aw sa anang ginhalinan hay indi makaabut sa anang ginapaeangpan.
▪ Asi: Kag tawong waya giruromroma it ida ginghalinan, indi makaabot sa ida apagtuan.
▪ Bangon: No fuktaw hadwa bumontag idwan dasog at bato lawan.
▪ Bikol Central: An dai tataong magsalingoy sa saiyang ginikanan, dai makakaabot sa padudumanan.
▪ Albay Bikol
▪ Buhinon Bikol: Yu di nikiling sa pinagalinan, di makaantos sa pupuntahan.
▪ Daraga/East Miraya Bikol: Su indi tataw makarumdom nung ginitan, indi makaabot sa adunan.
▪ Oasnon/West Miraya Bikol: Kan na taw na idi tataw mag linguy sa sanyang inalian, idi man maka abot sa sanyang paidtunan.
▪ Iriga Bikol: A diri maglili sa pinaggalinan, diri makaaabot sa pigiyanan.
▪ Ibanag: I tolay nga ari mallipay ta naggafuananna, ari makadde ta angayanna.
▪ Itawis: Ya tolay nga mari mallipay tsa naggafuananna, mari makakandet tsa angayanna.
▪ Northern Ilokano: Ti saanna ammo a tumaliaw iti naggapuanna ket saan a makadanon iti papananna.
▪ Southern Ilokano: Ti haanna ammo nga tumaliaw iti naggapuanna ket haan nga makadanon iti papananna.
▪ Hiligaynon: Kon sin-o ang indi makahibalo magbalikid sang iya ginta-uhan, indi makaabot sa iya padulungan.
▪ Jama Mapun: Soysoy niya' pandoy ngantele' patulakan ne, niya' ta'abut katakkahan ne.
▪ Kapampangan: Ing e byasang malikid king kayang penibatan, e ya makaratang king kayang pupuntalan.
▪ Kinaray-a: Ang indi kamaan magbalikid sa ana ginhalinan, indi makaabot sa ana paaragtunan.
▪ Obo Manobo: Iddos minuvu no konnod kotuig nod loingoy to id pomonan din, konna mandad od poko-uma riyon tod undiyonnan din.
▪ Pangasinan: Say toon agga onlingao ed pinanlapuan to, agga makasabi'd laen to.
▪ Sambal (Botolan): Hay ahe nin nanlek ha pinag-ibatan, ay ahe makarateng ha lalakwen.
▪ Sambal (Tina): Hay kay tanda mamanomtom ha pinangibatan, kay immabot sa kakaon.
▪ Sugbuanon: Kadtong dili molingi sa gigikanan, dili makaabot sa gipadulongan.
▪ Surigao-non: Adon dili mahibayo molingi sa ija ing-gikanan, dili gajod makaabot sa ija pasingdan.
▪ Sorsogoanon: An diri mag-imud sa pinaghalian diri makaabot sa kakadtuan.
▪ Tagalog/Filipino: Ang hindi marunong lumingon sa pinanggalingan ay hindi makararating sa paroroonan.
▪ Tausug: In di' maingat lumingi' pa bakas liyabayan niya, di' makasampay pa kadtuun niya.
▪ Waray-Waray: An diri maaram lumingi ha tinikangan, diri maulpot ha kakadtoan.


arabic script

▪ ئاکەئانۆن: ڕۆ ئوواع گاتان-ئاو سا ئانانگ گنھالنان ھای ئند ماکائابوت سا ئانانگ گناپائەئانگپان.
▪ ئاس: کاگ تاوۆنگ وایا گرورۆمرۆما ئت ئدا گنگھالنان، ئند ماکائابۆت سا ئدا ئاپاگتوان.
▪ بانگۆن: نۆ فوکتاو ھادوا بومۆنتاگ ئدوان داسۆگ ئات باتۆ لاوان.
▪ بکۆل جەنترال: ئان دا تاتائۆنگ ماگسالنگۆی سا سایانگ گنکانان، دا ماکاکائابۆت سا پادودومانان.
▪ ئالبای بکۆل
▪ بوھنۆن بکۆل: یو د نکلنگ سا پناگالنان، د ماکائانتۆس سا پوپونتاھان.
▪ داراگا/ئەئاست مرایا بکۆل: سو ئند تاتاو ماکارومدۆم نونگ گنتان، ئند ماکائابۆت سا ئادونان.
▪ ئۆئاسنۆن/وەست مرایا بکۆل: کان نا تاو نا ئد تاتاو ماگ لنگوی سا سانیانگ ئنالان، ئد مان ماکا ئابۆت سا سانیانگ پادتونان.
▪ رگا بکۆل: ئا در ماگڵ سا پناگگالنان، در ماکائائابۆت سا پگیانان.
▪ باناگ: ئ تۆلای نگا ئار ماڵپای تا ناگگافواناننا، ئار ماکاددە تا ئانگایاننا.
▪ تاوس: یا تۆلای نگا مار ماڵپای تسا ناگگافواناننا، مار ماکاکاندەت تسا ئانگایاننا.
▪ نۆرتھەرن ئلۆکانۆ: ت سائاننا ئاممۆ ئا تومالاو ئت ناگگاپواننا کەت سائان ئا ماکادانۆن ئت پاپاناننا.
▪ سۆئوتھەرن ئلۆکانۆ: ت ھائاننا ئاممۆ نگا تومالاو ئت ناگگاپواننا کەت ھائان نگا ماکادانۆن ئت پاپاناننا.
▪ ھلگاینۆن: کۆن سن-ئۆ ئانگ ئند ماکاھبالۆ ماگبالکد سانگ ئیا گنتا-ئوھان، ئند ماکائابۆت سا ئیا پادولونگان.
▪ ژاما ماپون: سۆیسۆی نیاع پاندۆی نگانتەلەع پاتولاکان نە، نیاع تاعابوت کاتاککاھان نە.
▪ کاپامپانگان: ئنگ ئە بیاسانگ مالکد کنگ کایانگ پەنباتان، ئە یا ماکاراتانگ کنگ کایانگ پوپونتالان.
▪ کنارای-ئا: ئانگ ئند کامائان ماگبالکد سا ئانا گنھالنان، ئند ماکائابۆت سا ئانا پائاراگتونان.
▪ ئۆبۆ مانۆبۆ: ئددۆس منوڤو نۆ کۆننۆد کۆتوگ نۆد لۆنگۆی تۆ ئد پۆمۆنان دن، کۆننا مانداد ئۆد پۆکۆ-ئوما ڕیۆن تۆد ئوندیۆننان دن.
▪ پانگاسنان: سای تۆئۆن ئاگگا ئۆنلنگائۆ ئەد پنانلاپوان تۆ، ئاگگا ماکاسابعد لائەن تۆ.
▪ سامبال (بۆتۆلان): ھای ئاھە نن نانلەک ھا پناگ-باتان، ئای ئاھە ماکاراتەنگ ھا لالاکوەن.
▪ سامبال (تنا): ھای کای تاندا مامانۆمتۆم ھا پنانگباتان، کای ئممابۆت سا کاکائۆن.
▪ سوگبوانۆن: کادتۆنگ دل مۆلنگ سا گگکانان، دل ماکائابۆت سا گپادولۆنگان.
▪ سورگائۆ-نۆن: ئادۆن دل ماھبایۆ مۆلنگ سا ئژا ئنگ-گکانان، دل گاژۆد ماکائابۆت سا ئژا پاسنگدان.
▪ سۆرسۆگۆئانۆن: ئان در ماگ-مود سا پناگھالان در ماکائابۆت سا کاکادتوان.
▪ تاگالۆگ/فلپنۆ: ئانگ ھند مارونۆنگ لومنگۆن سا پنانگگالنگان ئای ھند ماکاراراتنگ سا پارۆرۆئۆنان.
▪ تائوسوگ: ئن دع مانگات لومنگع پا باکاس لیابایان نیا، دع ماکاسامپای پا کادتوون نیا.
▪ وارای-وارای: ئان در مائارام لومنگ ھا تنکانگان، در مائولپۆت ھا کاکادتۆئان.
renascimento
QUOTE (azaz @ Aug 9 2009, 01:37 AM) *
20 million US dollar for leyte people
100 million for all the forgotten friends . it is not also mentioned that Joseph ES Daraman, Virgilio Hizon Marcelo. Tiburcio Sta Romana, Renato Sta Romana, Alex Hermano, Atty, Anotnio Relova, and oterh so called son adn daughte of STA ROMANA were not given any consideration to received money, Don,t wory guys you already earn millions from Scamming activities,
it was also stated in the probated last will that the COMMITTEE WILL BE INCHARGE FOR ALL OTHER MONEY DEPSOSITED WORLDWIDE AND MUST FOLLOW WAHT WAS WRITEN ON THE INSTRUCTION. GIVEN BY SGSR/JOSE ANONTIO DIAZ


That's quite a lot. what actually happens if NOBODY claims ?

BTW Suzuka, why abandon the romanized alphabet for arabic ? why not go back to baybayin instead ?
Suzuka00
QUOTE (renascimento @ Aug 10 2009, 10:53 AM) *
That's quite a lot. what actually happens if NOBODY claims ?

BTW Suzuka, why abandon the romanized alphabet for arabic ? why not go back to baybayin instead ?

Just like we did nothing to claim back the Gorontalo and Manado provinces from indonesia and orchid island from taiwan,we did nothing to claim back our lost wealth.

I am just pointing out that arabic script will be used instead if the spanish did not come.
mnbvcx
QUOTE (gabrielj81 @ Aug 9 2009, 11:46 PM) *
If a country can become wealthy even without mineral or oil natural resources, but depends on the abilities and intelligence of its people alone, then that'll be more impressive and something to be proud of.


exactly
azaz
QUOTE (renascimento @ Aug 10 2009, 09:53 AM) *
That's quite a lot. what actually happens if NOBODY claims ?

BTW Suzuka, why abandon the romanized alphabet for arabic ? why not go back to baybayin instead ?

I think it would go to other places in the world if nobody claims.

As for abilities and intelligence, we are abundant with it. But without capital, we end up sending most people to other countries to earn, most of the times underemployed and maltreated.

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renascimento
maybe somebody will just like to take a stroll in the Alps LOL biggrin.gif







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or confused.gif

Maybe different Money

Suzuka00
QUOTE (renascimento @ Aug 13 2009, 09:54 AM) *
maybe somebody will just like to take a stroll in the Alps LOL biggrin.gif







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or confused.gif

Maybe different Money

Get the lost territories first before doing that...
azaz
That is very good Renascimento. I hope it helps to awaken more people concerned. If you notice, this topic is over 10,000 views in just 4 months. So I think there are people reading this more concerned than we are. I hope they post too.

Suzuka, thanks for always posting. Yes, the Philippines should also stand for territories it may still legally own based on international laws.
Suzuka00
QUOTE (azaz @ Aug 14 2009, 11:17 PM) *
That is very good Renascimento. I hope it helps to awaken more people concerned. If you notice, this topic is over 10,000 views in just 4 months. So I think there are people reading this more concerned than we are. I hope they post too.

Suzuka, thanks for always posting. Yes, the Philippines should also stand for territories it may still legally own based on international laws.

I second to that....
trismegistos
Many Marcos Loyalists seems to be in an upbeat mood nowadays. They say funds are coming to fully develop the Philippines this year. Are those funds mentioned in the Holographic Will, the reason? And of course that their beloved departed hero will be buried in Libingan ng mga Bayani and thus the curse will be broken and Philippines will finally see the light and be truly the "Lupang Hinirang". btw, I personally am not ashamed to admit that I am a Marcos fanatic. (see this thread... http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=194593 )
They are saying also the return of Sabah to Philippine hands is just a matter of time as we have strong legal basis and the decision favorable to the Philippines will be handed down this year.
If that's the case, all Filipinos should be rejoicing. Hopefully, a long and lasting peace to Mindanao.
Suzuka00
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 15 2009, 08:32 AM) *
Many Marcos Loyalists seems to be in an upbeat mood nowadays. They say funds are coming to fully develop the Philippines this year. Are those funds mentioned in the Holographic Will, the reason? And of course that their beloved departed hero will be buried in Libingan ng mga Bayani and thus the curse will be broken and Philippines will finally see the light and be truly the "Lupang Hinirang". btw, I personally am not ashamed to admit that I am a Marcos fanatic. (see this thread... http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=194593 )
They are saying also the return of Sabah to Philippine hands is just a matter of time as we have strong legal basis and the decision favorable to the Philippines will be handed down this year.
If that's the case, all Filipinos should be rejoicing. Hopefully, a long and lasting peace to Mindanao.

North Sulawesi(Palau Miangas,Manado and Gorontalo) and Orchid Island should be also handed back to our country...
renascimento
something you might find interesting, though it doesn't have to do with Shambhalista-Marcos-Philippines Gold story:

i've been hearing rumors that the german gold reserves has been almost completely sold of secretly - as well as the american gold in Fort Knox. eek.gif

The US has been registering an export of several hundred more tonnes than are mined or imported into the country. German gold coins from before WWI, which were confiscated as reparations by the Allies have now been sold by the FED New York bank, and private investors in Germany are allowed to purchase them again. confused.gif
Suzuka00
QUOTE (renascimento @ Aug 16 2009, 06:00 AM) *
something you might find interesting, though it doesn't have to do with Shambhalista-Marcos-Philippines Gold story:

i've been hearing rumors that the german gold reserves has been almost completely sold of secretly - as well as the american gold in Fort Knox. eek.gif

The US has been registering an export of several hundred more tonnes than are mined or imported into the country. German gold coins from before WWI, which were confiscated as reparations by the Allies have now been sold by the FED New York bank, and private investors in Germany are allowed to purchase them again. confused.gif

It is for them to control the country they occupy...
azaz
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 15 2009, 09:32 AM) *
Many Marcos Loyalists seems to be in an upbeat mood nowadays. They say funds are coming to fully develop the Philippines this year. Are those funds mentioned in the Holographic Will, the reason? And of course that their beloved departed hero will be buried in Libingan ng mga Bayani and thus the curse will be broken and Philippines will finally see the light and be truly the "Lupang Hinirang". btw, I personally am not ashamed to admit that I am a Marcos fanatic. (see this thread... http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=194593 )
They are saying also the return of Sabah to Philippine hands is just a matter of time as we have strong legal basis and the decision favorable to the Philippines will be handed down this year.
If that's the case, all Filipinos should be rejoicing. Hopefully, a long and lasting peace to Mindanao.

The Holographic Will mainly concerns kins of Antonio Diaz aka Santa Romana. What Marcos loyalist maybe expecting could be from Marcos himself. In 2005, a $900+Billion swiss account came out in the international media linking the ex Pres. It could have been settled. That is more than enough to pay the Philippine national debt.
trismegistos
QUOTE (azaz @ Aug 17 2009, 09:15 PM) *
The Holographic Will mainly concerns kins of Antonio Diaz aka Santa Romana. What Marcos loyalist maybe expecting could be from Marcos himself. In 2005, a $900+Billion swiss account came out in the international media linking the ex Pres. It could have been settled. That is more than enough to pay the Philippine national debt.

Anyways, personally, I'm more for debt moratorium just what the late Dictator called for. That's another reason why the IMF hated Marcos and why they and the international press love Cory. All these debts are artificial from the 97 engineered crises.
Financial elites being of jewish blood should call for a Jubilee year and write off those debts. And that's biblical.
Suzuka00
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 17 2009, 09:53 PM) *
Anyways, personally, I'm more for debt moratorium just what the late Dictator called for. That's another reason why the IMF hated Marcos and why they and the international press love Cory. All these debts are artificial from the 97 engineered crises.
Financial elites being of jewish blood should call for a Jubilee year and write off those debts. And that's biblical.

Those things are the main reason why the Europeans raped our archipelago because of the riches,they did it to countries like vietnam,iran and siam too...

Iran got raped by europe and balkanized to many countries including what we know as modern iran because of they also they want their riches ....

I really believe that a philippines with a Kapampangan majority is a better one,Iluko,Kumintang and Bisaya should have trusted Kapampangans and did not ostracize Kapampangans for the Kapampangans that worked for spain and instead they should had worked with them to rebel against the spaniards instead of coercing the majority of Kapampangans to change their identity.....
trismegistos
QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Aug 18 2009, 06:26 AM) *
Those things are the main reason why the Europeans raped our archipelago because of the riches,they did it to countries like vietnam,iran and siam too...

Iran got raped by europe and balkanized to many countries including what we know as modern iran because of they also they want their riches ....

I really believe that a philippines with a Kapampangan majority is a better one,Iluko,Kumintang and Bisaya should have trusted Kapampangans and did not ostracize Kapampangans for the Kapampangans that worked for spain and instead they should had worked with them to rebel against the spaniards instead of coercing the majority of Kapampangans to change their identity.....

Remember also that during the Battle of Bangkusay, Tarik Soliman jeered at Lakandula for being coward and at the Bisayan Pintados and the Kumintangs for being submissive to the "Puting mukha" Castillians.

Jewish were persecuted before now they are the masters today. We are persecuted now, will our children be the masters of tommorow?
Suzuka00
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 18 2009, 10:01 AM) *
Remember also that during the Battle of Bangkusay, Tarik Soliman jeered at Lakandula for being coward and at the Bisayan Pintados and the Kumintangs for being submissive to the "Puting mukha" Castillians.

Jewish were persecuted before now they are the masters today. We are persecuted now, will our children be the masters of tommorow?

I think Iluko and Kumintangs were also selfish that time,they only want freedom for themselves,they don't care their comrades.....

I think for a better tomorrow for our country we just need to be optimistic and fight for our rights....
azaz
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 17 2009, 10:53 PM) *
Anyways, personally, I'm more for debt moratorium just what the late Dictator called for. That's another reason why the IMF hated Marcos and why they and the international press love Cory. All these debts are artificial from the 97 engineered crises.
Financial elites being of jewish blood should call for a Jubilee year and write off those debts. And that's biblical.


I welcome any scheme that will alleviate Philippine debt burden: debt moratorium. debt cancellation, the 50% discount scheme if Philippines pay cash to creditors, through Santa Romana or Marcos, but the Philippines should first take a valiant step on how it will escape the current cycle of debt payment that is perpetually pinning the country down. If the Philippines shuns Santa Romana/Marcos scheme then it should reach out to other debtors and find a common scheme that can be acceptable to creditors. I think most creditors know they had already profited more than enough from the world's debt, and any debt moratorium or cancellation would also profit everyone for it would bring vibrant economic activities in debtor countries which creditors, mostly industrialized and exporter countries, would also benefit from.
Suzuka00
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Aug 18 2009, 11:01 AM) *
Remember also that during the Battle of Bangkusay, Tarik Soliman jeered at Lakandula for being coward and at the Bisayan Pintados and the Kumintangs for being submissive to the "Puting mukha" Castillians.

Jewish were persecuted before now they are the masters today. We are persecuted now, will our children be the masters of tommorow?

Kumintang and Iluko makes my blood boil for stereotyping Kapampangans and sometimes they try to distort history to opress kapampangans....
renascimento
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PSE to introduce gold trading

Bullion to be kept with BSP
By Doris Dumlao
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 23:18:00 08/19/2009

Filed Under: Economy and Business and Finance, Stock Activity


MANILA, Philippines – The Philippine Stock Exchange plans to introduce spot gold trading and “specialist” trading while increasingly using fresh technological innovation to attract more Filipinos to invest in local stocks.

The local bourse yesterday signed an agreement with Thomson Reuters Philippines for the latter to flash real-time market prices, news and summaries on the PSE’s electronic billboard in the Makati central business district during trading hours.

“This is part of our firm resolve to improve trading liquidity, volume and to get more people involved in the stock market,” PSE president Francis Lim said.

PSE director Vivian Yuchengco also announced that the exchange was looking into the trading of gold certificates, where the underlying commodity would be placed under the custody of the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas. She said gold trading could hopefully start “in a couple of months” or hopefully within this year.

“That is another product which will give OFWs (overseas Filipino workers) the earnings they want if they buy gold,” Yuchengco said.

She said the idea to launch a gold trading platform originated from Social Security System president and former economic planning secretary Romulo Neri. She added that the BSP was initially reluctant to be part of it but that she was able to convince BSP Governor Amando Tetangco Jr. to support it.

“You can buy gold and take a position,” Yuchengco said.

“This will put Philippine gold in the global map. As you know, the Philippines sells a lot of gold,” she added.

But she said the mechanics of this new gold trading scheme were still being ironed out, agreeing that the underlying gold must be standardized to qualify for trading.

Yuchengco also said the PSE was looking at the introduction of specialist trading or market making, which is widely practiced in the New York Stock Exchange, to possibly institutionalize this in the local bourse.

The NYSE facilitates trading through a human being who is known as the specialist. Each stock listed on the NYSE is allocated to a specialist and all the buying and selling of a stock occurs at the location of this person, known as “the trading post.” Buyers and sellers represented by a floor trader will meet at the trading post to learn about the best current bid and ask price for a security. These bid and ask offers are called out loud and indicate the current prices to any interested party. A trade is executed when the bid and ask orders meet.

“The Philippine market is very shallow. This specialist trading will give more liquidity to the foreigners and our new system can take that because we have the NYSE system,” she said.
islander
The Philippines does have many foreign gold mining companies looking for Gold and other minerals:

Following is a map which shows where the gold is located in the Philippines:


This on the minerals resources of the Philippines: http://www.mgb.gov.ph/asomm/min_resources.htm

Map of other minerals: http://solfotaramining.com/gallery/emp-image-big5.jpg
azaz
About time PSE introduce this scheme, It may finally attract local gold holders to put out their items on the market.

As for Islander, the maps shows why whenever this said US mineral mapping satellite passes over the Philippines, its gadgets lights up like a Christmas tree.

For the people of Leyte, below is what I got from Mr. Todd Alphine on the $20 Million Santa Romana Will for that province (which I will try to forward to the attention of any officials in Leyte. Nothing to lose I guess if they try to claim):

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Todd Alphine....

I read again the LAST WILL and it is very clear that the $20,000,000.00 was to be given to the PEOPLE of LEYTE, and there was no mention that it was to be handled over to the Mayor or township, as the endowments was FOR THE PEOPLE of LEYTE. I am not sure what the procedure is, but I would suggest that if there were two official legalized OFFICIALS that could legally represent the PEOPLE from Leyte and Southern Leyte as beneficiaries, then the first baby step would be to file their claims for the $20 million as a joint effort, meaning they join together with the legal claim that they REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF LEYTE. However $20 million dollars is not a lot of money and I think they could not claim all $20 million but state their position and then appeal to the trustees who could then approve the claim or not, but from what I heard, most claims are considered to be just for 50%, meaning not $20M but $10 Million. Again $10 million is not a lot of money to be doing any good, so if I was asked my viewpoint, I would hope to get the $10 Million and then ask someone like the ASIA NGO SUPPORT FOUNDATION to pool this into the larger investments , the $10 Million into a legal investment program to get back a return of $35 Million within the 2-year period. However the $35 Million can only be paid out if there is some proof of humanitarian projects, fighting poverty and helping the PUBLIC, the people as this would have to first be approved by the Trustees who would accept or deny the claims from Leyte. Now again $35 Million could be used to maybe improve on the geothermal plant and expand it, provide the profits were to be shared with the public and not just to shareholders or investors. With $35M, I think they could deposit $10M of it and ask for a LOAN from Asia Development Bank for $25M additional to improve the geothermal plant and facilities, if someone would do the proper feasibility studies to show this was a improvement for the Environment and how the profits would help the poor people of Leyte. But who is there that can get off their rear end and get the project created, as there is a deadline of JAnuary 2010 for anyone to file their claims against the escrow account of that $500M for that LAst Will of MR. Jose A. Diaz...
CORNELIO
QUOTE (azaz @ Aug 23 2009, 09:52 PM) *
About time PSE introduce this scheme, It may finally attract local gold holders to put out their items on the market.

As for Islander, the maps shows why whenever this said US mineral mapping satellite passes over the Philippines, its gadgets lights up like a Christmas tree.

For the people of Leyte, below is what I got from Mr. Todd Alphine on the $20 Million Santa Romana Will for that province (which I will try to forward to the attention of any officials in Leyte. Nothing to lose I guess if they try to claim):

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Todd Alphine....

I read again the LAST WILL and it is very clear that the $20,000,000.00 was to be given to the PEOPLE of LEYTE, and there was no mention that it was to be handled over to the Mayor or township, as the endowments was FOR THE PEOPLE of LEYTE. I am not sure what the procedure is, but I would suggest that if there were two official legalized OFFICIALS that could legally represent the PEOPLE from Leyte and Southern Leyte as beneficiaries, then the first baby step would be to file their claims for the $20 million as a joint effort, meaning they join together with the legal claim that they REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF LEYTE. However $20 million dollars is not a lot of money and I think they could not claim all $20 million but state their position and then appeal to the trustees who could then approve the claim or not, but from what I heard, most claims are considered to be just for 50%, meaning not $20M but $10 Million. Again $10 million is not a lot of money to be doing any good, so if I was asked my viewpoint, I would hope to get the $10 Million and then ask someone like the ASIA NGO SUPPORT FOUNDATION to pool this into the larger investments , the $10 Million into a legal investment program to get back a return of $35 Million within the 2-year period. However the $35 Million can only be paid out if there is some proof of humanitarian projects, fighting poverty and helping the PUBLIC, the people as this would have to first be approved by the Trustees who would accept or deny the claims from Leyte. Now again $35 Million could be used to maybe improve on the geothermal plant and expand it, provide the profits were to be shared with the public and not just to shareholders or investors. With $35M, I think they could deposit $10M of it and ask for a LOAN from Asia Development Bank for $25M additional to improve the geothermal plant and facilities, if someone would do the proper feasibility studies to show this was a improvement for the Environment and how the profits would help the poor people of Leyte. But who is there that can get off their rear end and get the project created, as there is a deadline of JAnuary 2010 for anyone to file their claims against the escrow account of that $500M for that LAst Will of MR. Jose A. Diaz...

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