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jobocom
I've met plenty japanese youths who live in some country studying there. They hate it and can't wait to go back.

They also keep saying how japan is better. They consider many of the places they go to to be boring because they're too "country" etc.

Well, nobody is forcing them to come, are they?

Or is going abroad some type of thing that all Japanese feel they should do even if they hate it?
1m2gr84u
QUOTE (jobocom @ May 19 2009, 12:26 PM) *
I've met plenty japanese youths who live in some country studying there. They hate it and can't wait to go back.

They also keep saying how japan is better. They consider many of the places they go to to be boring because they're too "country" etc.

Well, nobody is forcing them to come, are they?

Or is going abroad some type of thing that all Japanese feel they should do even if they hate it?


Don't you just give up?
Anyway, I know what they feel. About going abroad to that country which I spent hours searching about, and when I arrive there, it's not so great.
Jiaqiu
QUOTE (jobocom @ May 19 2009, 12:26 PM) *
I've met plenty japanese youths who live in some country studying there. They hate it and can't wait to go back.

They also keep saying how japan is better. They consider many of the places they go to to be boring because they're too "country" etc.

Well, nobody is forcing them to come, are they?

Or is going abroad some type of thing that all Japanese feel they should do even if they hate it?



Simply, yes.

It helps with their resumes in corporate applications and stuff.
visitorq
Huh? I've met tons of Japanese abroad and almost all of them love it. Young Japanese usually feel very stressed out about starting work in Japan (usually it's employment for life) and want to travel abroad as much as they can while they're still young.

If anything when I lived in Tokyo I'd hear young Japanese complaining that they didn't have enough time or money to go abroad as much as they'd like...

Or are you talking about even younger, like teenagers? In that case, they probably don't have any choice (parents send them to learn English and they have to leave all their school friends behind).
PingLing
I guess they forgot that Japan is the most exciting place on earth.
jobocom
Well the people i'm talking about have been in their 20s.
visitorq
QUOTE (jobocom @ May 19 2009, 03:21 PM) *
Well the people i'm talking about have been in their 20s.

In that case, I have no idea why you think so... most Japanese in their 20s I know are all about travelling overseas. At that age if they don't want to go, they pretty much don't have to...

Obviously it just depends on the person though.
1m2gr84u
Japan rocks when it comes to style, they got pretty cool hair styles.
ryuji_yamamoto
Depends who you ask.

Japan is cleaner and safer than say America.

In fact when I first came to Los Angeles I was shocked how dirty the place was. I don't think i've ever seen so much garbage, graffiti and shopping trolleys being strewn everywhere.

Furthermore alot of places are quite unsafe and scary.

Having said that going abroad is somewhat exciting and foreigners do tend to be curious about my country however it's not for everyone and I understand that perfectly.
FrenchVanillaNYC
Realistic expectations for the win.
ibrakeforanimals
QUOTE (ryuji_yamamoto @ May 20 2009, 05:17 AM) *
Depends who you ask.

Japan is cleaner and safer than say America.

In fact when I first came to Los Angeles I was shocked how dirty the place was. I don't think i've ever seen so much garbage, graffiti and shopping trolleys being strewn everywhere.

Furthermore alot of places are quite unsafe and scary.

Having said that going abroad is somewhat exciting and foreigners do tend to be curious about my country however it's not for everyone and I understand that perfectly.


exactly what I was going to say. Most Japanese who study in America's large cities are shocked at the amount "non-Americans" (non-whites) and filthiness. They usually get a good idea of what America is all about.
CheolSu
They don't know how great Japan is until they see another country.

Plenty of young kids, first time out of their country, react the same way when they go abroad and find it lacks some of the things they always took for granted. Not just Japanese.
boobu
QUOTE (ibrakeforanimals @ May 21 2009, 07:03 AM) *
exactly what I was going to say. Most Japanese who study in America's large cities are shocked at the amount "non-Americans" (non-whites) and filthiness. They usually get a good idea of what America is all about.


so nonwhites are non-americans, eh. wow, lol.

not only that, they are shocked and surprised and get their eyes open at the fact whites aren't hollywood made-up movie stars but rednecks, country people, generally ugly or average and just generally fu-king boring as corn!
jobocom
Well that i can say is true. Whenever they( many that i've happened to meet through craigslist or at an English School) meet me, they seem pretty disappointed.

boobu
QUOTE (jobocom @ May 21 2009, 11:51 AM) *
Well that i can say is true. Whenever they( many that i've happened to meet through craigslist or at an English School) meet me, they seem pretty disappointed.


well, they are stupid as a box of rocks to have such unrealistic expectations of people and think there is some perfect race in some garden of eden called the west.
hanbao
QUOTE (ryuji_yamamoto @ May 20 2009, 06:17 AM) *
Depends who you ask.

Japan is cleaner and safer than say America.

In fact when I first came to Los Angeles I was shocked how dirty the place was. I don't think i've ever seen so much garbage, graffiti and shopping trolleys being strewn everywhere.

Furthermore alot of places are quite unsafe and scary.

Having said that going abroad is somewhat exciting and foreigners do tend to be curious about my country however it's not for everyone and I understand that perfectly.


Japanese are learning from Los Angeles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zApX6j9kH30
ryuji_yamamoto
QUOTE (hanbao @ May 21 2009, 06:09 PM) *
Japanese are learning from Los Angeles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zApX6j9kH30


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jC0KU1xlfU

catman
Japan is obviously a better country. That is why there are hardly any Japanese immigrant when compare with China and South Korea.
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE (ryuji_yamamoto @ May 21 2009, 09:27 PM) *


totally copied from Xzibits "get your walk on"

ok not totally....like, soft version
FrenchVanillaNYC
QUOTE (ibrakeforanimals @ May 21 2009, 07:03 AM) *
exactly what I was going to say. Most Japanese who study in America's large cities are shocked at the amount "non-Americans" (non-whites) and filthiness. They usually get a good idea of what America is all about.

If they aren't doing proper research on where they're going to and are just blindly going places based on misconceptions they have, they deserve every drop of disappointment. There are too many resources with accurate information about world cities and stats to be that confused and lost.
jobocom
QUOTE (FrenchVanillaNYC @ May 22 2009, 10:57 AM) *
If they aren't doing proper research on where they're going to and are just blindly going places based on misconceptions they have, they deserve every drop of disappointment. There are too many resources with accurate information about world cities and stats to be that confused and lost.


Yeah they're not doing their research and that's stupid.

I had this girl come to my city and she was saying... "It's boring here. I like big cities with big buildings. your city is so country" Well she came, so who's the dummy?
visitorq
QUOTE (FrenchVanillaNYC @ May 22 2009, 10:57 AM) *
If they aren't doing proper research on where they're going to and are just blindly going places based on misconceptions they have, they deserve every drop of disappointment. There are too many resources with accurate information about world cities and stats to be that confused and lost.

Come on man, no need to come off bitter about it...

Most Japanese people are very kind-hearted, extremely well mannered and innocent, which can occasionally result in a kind of naivety. Life in Japan is quite sheltered compared to other countries. The majority of Japanese enjoy travelling and get around just fine, but a few people have a very hard time making the adjustment once they leave Japan. Seriously though, there's even a disorder named after those Japanese who can't cope well overseas:

"Paris Sydrome"
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A dozen or so Japanese tourists a year have to be repatriated from the French capital, after falling prey to what's become known as "Paris syndrome". That is what some polite Japanese tourists suffer when they discover that Parisians can be rude or the city does not meet their expectations. The experience can apparently be too stressful for some and they suffer a psychiatric breakdown. Around a million Japanese travel to France every year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6197921.stm

airtorpedo
^lol at that article. total british bash of french laugh.gif
FrenchVanillaNYC
QUOTE (visitorq @ May 22 2009, 11:15 AM) *
Come on man, no need to come off bitter about it...

Most Japanese people are very kind-hearted, extremely well mannered and innocent, which can occasionally result in a kind of naivety. Life in Japan is quite sheltered compared to other countries. The majority of Japanese enjoy travelling and get around just fine, but a few people have a very hard time making the adjustment once they leave Japan. Seriously though, there's even a disorder named after those Japanese who can't cope well overseas:

"Paris Sydrome"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6197921.stm

It's not bitterness, I just get tired of people getting frazzled and upset when something turns out different than what they expected when they had all kinds of ways to research what they were doing beforehand. A nice little Google search can go a long way.
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