Do you think it will happen some day?

Geographically speaking the land there sucks. Politically... not anytime soon.

If the Russians ever put it up for sale then maybe. But I would think it would be cheaper to buy the resources from the Russians then own that territory. If you own it you must invest in infrastructure and other costly things. Also, the area is cold. Money spent on buying it would be better spent on developing the warm Southern parts of China.

Access to the Sea of Japan and the northern port of Vladivostok could be geopolitically valuable... Not to mention severely cutting off Russian's influence in East Asia. Personally, I think Outer Manchuria should belong to China, and the Sakhalin and Kuriles should go to Japan. That would make more sense culturally, geographically and/or historically.

I doubt Russia would ever be interested in selling.

Eventually, the majority of Russians (80%) live in European Russia right now.


That will increase because nobody wants to live in Russian Far Eat.

russia made a mistake selling alaska, do you think they make another mistake again?

I think Russia should sell mongolian territories in russia to mongolia and the vladivostok area and gando should be put to korea while the rest of inner manchuria and outer manchuria goes to china....

Where is their relationship to korea?

Probably unlikely in the twenty first century of the modern world when national territories are fiercely protected to passionate absolution. Unless of course, the Central Kingdom decides to act on her imperialistic instinct to encroach upon the time when Russia is decrepit and feeble. This would ironically be the very same strategy that the Russian Empire used to annex Outer Manchuria in the first place.

Where is their relationship to korea?

balhae....

according to this theory china should claim the land of myanmar and NE india, because chinese has little relationship with them.
Balhae only has very little relationship with korea

How could that possibly be? "Balhae was an ancient Korean kingdom established after the fall of Goguryeo. After Goguryeo's capital and southern territories fell to Unified Silla, Dae Jo-young, a former Goguryeo general, whose father was Dae Jung-sang, established Jin (振, Zhen in Chinese), later called Balhae. It was a successor state to Goguryeo." It is generally agreed upon that Balhae is a Korean kingdom of displaced or remnants Goguryo people as its ruling majority, which of course had a strong Chinese and Central Asian influence due to cultural difussion.

Do we really need a history lesson for Korea in this thread? My answer is, no. I don't care who the Koreans call their ancestors. That's their business. But revanchism must be guarded against. Territory, once lost, cannot be so easily regained - as the West proved to the natives in its great colonial expansion. The same is true for China - give an inch, and next time they will ask for a mile. The world is not ruled by "nice guys," and as history shows, when the crap hits the fan, people will be delighted to carve you up for themselves. Never again - strike a hard bargain, and show no weakness.

Until China is ready to expand into space (and this is something that we must not fall behind in), holdings on earth should be kept under close watch. As for Outer Manchuria, we should make it clear to the Russians that we will not ask for it so long as they remain on cordial terms. But if they should side with our foes, then the agreements are off.

most planets out there are uninhibitable by humans. i think we should turn planets like Mars into a giant garbage dump to store stuff like nuclear waste. Minerals extracted from mars should be processed then bring back to earth

Evidence please?
Oh I forgot every evidence was written in chinese and u can not master chinese character well .

They are not inhabitable now, but they can be made inhabitable through terra-forming and a little imagination. Think in the long-term - that's the key to succeeding in a world where everyone else is thinking only in the short-term. Investments in terra-forming research will pay huge dividends, not only in outer space, but also in China's huge deserts, etc.

Isn't my explaination evidential enough? =p The evidence are everywhere, don't ask me about it just go look it up on an encyclopedia or google. If Balhae "only has very little relationship with Korea" then pray tell, what elusively & mysterious relationship does this entity with a Koreanic pronounciation of a name actually share with? All alone by itself /sarcasm/ or perhaps a Chinese origin? ^^ Please do not hesistate to enlighten me with your élite wisdom of sinography. *bow*

LOL
Please I use the word evidence, which means u should provide me some first hand evidence, anything is OK, first hand history record, archaeological evidence and maybe DNA evidence. I have no interest in second hand evidence sorry.
And Roh Moo-hyun also claimed he is a chinese decendent, but what does it mean? China history is part of korean?

they just share history....

the composition of the two countries in manjuria are very complex. I also can give out the evidence that Han people also play an important part in it. But this doesn't mean anyone have the right to succeed the history.Both Bohai and Gaogouli is past and no one can claim they are the successor from culture or DNA.

Yes and the Mongolians and Vietnamese of the past & today are actually Chinese people in disguise because historically the composition of these countries in relation with China are very complex.

When Roh Moo-hyun claimed that he has Chinese roots then all that mean is that, like a lot of East Asian people, he has a sinitic background under the influence of the Sinosphere. Nothing more and nothing less.

There is a general concensus among the international historians community on the "Balhae and Koguryŏ is Korean" topic you know... Hence the official Korean's pronounciation of these historical entities. As if that is not sufficent enough, do you want a time machine? =p

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The whole east asia's history first-hand record was recorded down by chinese.Thanks.
I think u guys have two choices first believe in chinese history record, then I would tell u sorry both kindom do not have that much relationship with korea. second choose to not believe in Chinese history, then whether the kingdoms exist is a question.

Space can be conquered by human beings and imagination is everything because the purpose of humanity is to create reality through our conscious awareness of our experience.


And yes, Balhae was a Korean kingdom and had very little to do with Chinese. Blind nationalists trolls have always stated otherwise... turning a blind eye to easily found international third party scholarly evidence.

We can't even terraform the deserts here in planet earth. SO I think we are at least 500 years way from being able to terraform a massive barren planet like Mars which doesn't even have an atmosphere.

I dont think the Russians would ever sell it. But the land there is very valuable, the earth is very rich, and the warm water port of Vladivostok is very strategic.

If China can gain that territory, our power will be increased significantly in the region.

Some of you are getting way too overboard and delusional. Russia will never let go or much less sell Outer Manchuria. Unless something catastrophic takes place and China can take the region without suffering any repercussions whatsoever, then sure but that's far from reality at this point in time and the forseeable China. We should be thankful we got the majority of our lands back because at one point in time, European colonial powers were planning to partition China like they did Africa. The good news was that the painful episode in our history helped the Chinese people learn to protect and defend her territorial sovreignty at all costs.

I think it was the Boxer Rebellion (a bloody chapter of modern Chinese history) that is often credited with reminding the Europeans that colonizing China might not be such a great idea, and which resulted in them adopting the policy of managing China through the Qing government, as opposed to managing it themselves. Certainly, there is nothing to be "thankful" of - the Europeans didn't "spare" us; they simply decided that it wasn't worth it because Chinese resistance was fierce, and by that time their forces were overextended.

The rise of Chinese national consciousness and resistance saved the country and the race. That must never be forgotten.

Parts of outer manchuria eg. horizontal area between khabarovsk and vladivostok is much more valuable than tibet or xinjiang.

The temperature there is less cold as its near the sea than most inner parts of china.

Furthermore, the coastline of outer manchuria not only provide fertile land but also fertile seafood.

Lastly, china can now gain direct access to the sea of japan which russia blocked china in the first place.

渤海国是韩国的？韩国不是声称新罗统一了朝鲜半岛称之为统一新罗吗？既然如此那又何来的南北朝何来的渤海国？
Sea country is South Korea? South Korea is not a claim that Silla unified the Korean Peninsula Unified Silla called it? That being the case how then can come from the Northern and Southern States of the Sea?

dude, do you ever plan to learn english? instead of translating with babel fish or w/e?

Why should China go and buy back outer manchuria when originally it was theirs in the first place?

Do you buy stolen goods from a thief ?

Well at this point, the odds of getting it back at all is very slim.

Probably there almost no population today, except probably Blagoveschensk city with a half million population, so your country could by it with them bundled =D And I think that there are far more of Chinese than Russians already.

Unless China pays something like $20 trillion, it won't happen.

Vladivostok, the natural resources and strategic location is too valuable.