http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itu_Aba_Island






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands

Taiwan (1 reef, 1 island = 2)

Itu Aba Island[32][44] 太平島 Taiping Dao The largest of the Spratly islands. Located about 22 miles (35 km) south-southwest of Philippine-occupied Loiata (Kota) Island and about 6 miles (10 km) west of Vietnam-occupied Sand Cay. Covered with shrubs, coconut and mangroves. 600 soldiers stationed, lighthouse, radio and weather stations, concrete landing jetty and two wells at the SW end. Guano deposits, fringing reef. Hainan fishermen used to visit annually. In 8/93, plans were announced for a 2 km-long airstrip[45] and a fishing port. The now only 1150-meters-long airstrip was completed in January 2008. [46] Pineapple was once cultivated here. Occupied since September 1956, four months after Filipino Tomas Cloma claimed the islands. Part of Tizard Banks. 46
Ligaw[47]
Đảo Ba Bình

Ban Than Reef[44] 中洲礁 Zhong Zhou Jiao Lies 3 miles (5 km) east of Itu-Aba Island and 3 miles (5 km) west of Vietnamese occupied Sand Cay. Small drying reef. Occupied since 1995. Part of Tizard Banks. 0
Bãi Bàn Than
Total 1 island, 1 reef

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_battle_in_Spratly_1988

Naval battle in Spratly 1988

Due to clash on 14 March 1988 , Vietnam lost 3 vessels that were set on fire and sank ; 3 men died , 11 wounded, 61 missed.The Chinese released 9 prisoners afterwards , 61 other persons still missed and reputedly dead.The Chinese claim of her own casualties: 6 killed and 21 injured in combat.

Vietnam defended successfully sovereingty over Johnson North Reef and Landsdowne Reef.

The Chinese has occupied Johnson South Reef from 16 March 1988 on and still control it nowadays.

Over 1988, Vietnamese navy had sent troops to occupy more 11 reefs.

On 17 Oct, General Secretary Nguyen Van Linh signed the Document 19/NQ-TW about the defence of the reefs on southern continental shelf ( zone DK1).On 5 Jul 1989, the prime minister ratified Instructions Nr. 180 UT about the building the center of economy - science - technology under administration of Ba Ria-Vung Tau province, reaffirmed sovereignty over this area of continental shelf.

Since Jun 1989, Vietnamese navy has begun occupying the following reefs : Vanguard Bank, Prince Consort Bank, Grainger Bank, Prince of Wales Bank, Alexander Bank, and Rifleman Bank.

From the flags it looks like Viets have the most flags.
So why are you complanning?

I am not complaining. I am learning.

in fact looking at the number of flags it seems Vietnam is the winner.

so???

How do u win by losing territory

Since you're at learning, you might want to check this out bro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qTkQSbYmJU...re=channel_page

no , vn is still losing until we cover all those islands by our flags

In fact looking at the number of flags it seems Vietnam is the winner, defensive and offensive positioning strategically .

Look at one Chinese flag among several Vietnamese flags on the bottom left. This is not acceptable.

It's like you have almost straight A's with one failing class.

The Philippines' main priority back then was to occupy the largest islands before the smaller ones. Of the top 15 largest, Phils. have 7 (3 of which are in the top 5) with a total area of 83.89 hectares of land.

Vietnam has 6 of the top 15 with a total area of only 46.90 hectares of land.

The map above does not show all the features occupied by the countries. It seemed like Vietnam has the most flags. But this is reality:


Philippines 43
Vietnam 26
China 10
Malaysia 7
Taiwan 2
Brunei 0


source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_islands

please show a map for better description


how did you come up with 46 for Philippines?

I don't think Spratly's belongs to the Philippines,Spratly's should be shared by ASEAN countries that are near it.

Read carefully SoCal. Not 46, but 43!!!

Go to this site and count all the names of islands, reefs, shoals, etc that are listed under the Philippines. There was no damn map cuz if there was one, I could have posted it already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_islands

show me the map

if you cannot find one, make one for me and show it to me

do you hear?

How about ...
-A river of southeast Asia flowing about 4,183 km (2,600 mi) from southeast China to the South China Sea through a vast delta in southern Vietnam
-Mekong River Basin Development
-Do a search for Nam Con Son Basin
Bac , Trung , Nam

How could you say it's not the Philippines when our claim is only partial? Tell that to Vietnam claiming the whole Spratlys! Damn Chinese and Taiwanese claiming the whole of it as well. Malaysia is claiming Spratlys because of Sabah's proximity, but Sabah is a Philippine territory. You better leave alone the lands in Indonesia that you say are more worth claiming than Sabah. Why don't you focus more on what is near us before you go the distant lands.

I am just suggesting to claim North Sulawesi to complete the unification of "Philippines" or Maharlika because they speak philippine languages as well the same can be said to Orchid Island.


A part of it? the map says the philippines claims almost whole spratly's

Can't you count? And you expect me to place 33 (since there are already 10 that were placed) more Philippine flags on that damn map? I provided you the source and it's up for you to figure it out. Trust me counting up to 43 isn't that hard. Better yet, accept the fact that Philippines controls more of the islands in the Spratlys than Vietnam.

do something for your country of Phillipines


for goodness sake, I ask you to create a map of Spratly for Philippines with flags of 43

Sh-coolz r4 Fool-z

Whatever the reason is, leave Indonesia alone. The only land I see that they got from us is the Las Palmas Island (Miangas Island in Indonesia). The residents of the island are Filipinos but we lost it to them. Philippines (United States) vs (Netherlands) Indonesia in ICJ.

This one is a better version of that and is easier to understand. Study the lines carefully and tell me who's being greedy.

Don't waste your good times by trolling. Spend it with your wife and be a much better husband to her.

you start to annoy me by accusing people like Xigon

what I do with my time should not be a matter of interest to you

Then you better stop asking for a map with 43 flags on it. I am not your servant and I refuse to take orders.

Didn't you tell me this before "Don't waste your good times by trolling. Do something productive blah blah blah" of some sort? Why does it hurt when it comes back?

Socal, let's stop this right here.

I have much respect for Vietnamese and Vietnam and I know you do too for the Filipinos and the Philippines. We are both good neighbors.

Let's have a bowl of Pho.

huh, if you don't wanna create the map with 43 flags, then let's move on

granted,that n.sulawesi belongs to indonesia because the dutch colonized it but we deserve it more because the people there speak philippine languages/dialects too.

Spratly's should be shared by Asean members when the ASEAN is more unified.

^like what i just said above.

let's have a bowl of Pho and move on.

it sounds good

however, each country should take the initiative to protect and serve of what it already has

if China attacks all of a sudden, it will take ASEAN much slower as a whole group to respond because they have to decide as a whole group ... look at the situation of Myanmar... ASEAN doesn't dare to mess with Myanmar, let's alone of China

so it is better for now that Vietnam, Malaysia, Philippines to be self reliant and train its navy

I don't think the people of North Sulawesi would still want to become part of us now that they are already assimilated to the Indonesian culture. Drop N. Sulawesi and let's focus more on Sabah.

As with the division of Spratly Islands among claimants, Philippines would keep the half eastern parts and Vietnam for the half western parts. Brunei would keep the 2 or 3 islands it is claiming. Malaysia is the only ASEAN claimant that has no business of whatsoever in the Spratlys along with China and Taiwan. That's how I see it's going to be fair. The sacrifice is on the Philippines' part if ever the half would go to Vietnam. That's fair enough for the ASEANs.

I think the Claimants should get equal parts in spratly's

i think we should make an ASEAN lottery draw

wery funny....why Malaysia have no business?

you are funny....why don't you read my previous posts above?

Must be fresh rice noodles .