A poster on this forum mentioned that Koreans were insulted with racial slurs etc.. Of course, I'm sure a small percentage of Americans hate Koreans and other Asians. However, do these people travel to Asia and teach ESL? I doubt it. Teaching ESL would be last career choice for a white racist bigot. Perhaps after traveling to Korea they could go teach in Africa (sarcasm).

So do these kind ESL teachers deserve hateful remarks about Bin Laden, Ohno, or 9/11? Of course, I know there are some bad apple ESL teachers who have it coming. But do you all really think the majority of those teachers are racist jerks?

What is the source of racism against Koreans and other Asians? Well, obviously Hollywood has played a role. Several movies enchance the perception of Asians as "the enemy" or "communists". Asian women are often portrayed as being sexually submissive to western white men. So obviously, we can see why Asians feel humiliated by Hollywood. Of course, a person from Hollywood might argue that only "bad" asians are portrayed as bad. However, your typical uneducated racist American might stereotype all Asians based on what he sees on big screen. So has Hollywood attempted any positive portrayals of Asians? Well, the martial arts movies generally portray Asians well. Therefore some might argue that the good and bad portrayals of Asians are balanced.

So how about regular Americans? Small town Americans? Big City? Are they nice to Korean nationals?
Do they treat them with respect or mock them? Do they look down on them due to different facial features, inability (of some) to speak English, or a different accent?

I know from personal experience (I have a racist bigoted half Mexican brother in law.) that racism is wrong. Oddly, I have another family member who acts like a black person. Nobody in my family likes him. But my brother in law said "Don't judge a book by it's cover". But obviously he's a hypocrite. He judges Asians and blacks based on stereotypes and first impressions all the time.

Racism from America are mostly target blacks, Koreans only represent small % of ethnic minority in America.
And most racism against to asians aim at Chinese, again Koreans are less than 2% of whole asian population.

Right so why does RealK say that Americans are racist against Koreans AND therefore deserve insults and hateful comments from regular Korean people (in Korea)?

RealK, I don't that dude.
We still don't know if that RealK is real Korean.

Anyway, that's just one dude who doesn't like white American.
He doesn't represent rest of Korea.
So what they are plenty of white Americans don't like ethnic people too.

I hope he doesn't represent other Koreans in case I have to travel there. If your a teacher then one or two students like that will sink your job. I don't like going into a classroom that seems like a courtroom. Give me a break. I have to be in touch with my feminine side all the time?

Sure, there are plenty of racist Americans. However, I think the number is small when you look at the whole population. Americans are generally tolerant these days. I mean we just elected a black president.

There are far more white racists than korean ones.

I'm not even racist and get along with other races for the most part. It's just white America has made me what I am today. To despise your system and your people.

I'd like to think that the racist foreigners in Korea are few. A lot of foreigners come to Korea not so much to teach but to explore another country and meet different people. While some might do so respectfully, there are going to be those who take advantage of every situation they're in.

To whoever said that most racism is targeted at Asians are only targeted towards Chinese is really ignorant. Somebody who's racist against Chinese, is definitely going to be racist against Koreans also. I get offended when I hear people bashing on other Asians because I feel like we're all the same. We're all Asians. Most non-Asians in the US can't tell the difference between a Chinese and a Korean anyways.

Definitely, you should not go to Korea.

you are a scumbag only worried about yourself.

go to Thailand and do what all whites are doing.

That's not very nice. I'm a scumbag? Why because I don't want to aplogize all day for so called "American Crimes"?

I'm worried about other people and races and am very sensitive. But when does crying stop? Why can't Koreans give up their grudge?

No, I don't want to go Thailand. I'm sure your "scumbag" American imperalists love Thailand so they can fulfill negative American stereotypes (The sex seeking American tourist etc. The benevolent sugar daddy.).

I think if Koreans quit worrying about THEMSELVES then maybe they'd be nicer.

So, where ya livin' now?

You want to be an english teacher?

Maybe you should rather join the world food programme or the UNESCO

Good point. Probably they wouldn't have a grudge because they'd be thankful for my help.

However, they might say

"Oh, thank you for the food." YANKEE PIG.

Maybe they will say so after they caught you smoking weed and snorting coke, insulting the locals,
harassing their wives and molesting their children.

Yeah that's what us YANKEES always do overseas you know.

Those stereotypes sure sound a lot like negative African American stereotypes.

Now I'm not trying to sound racist but if blacks (or Yankees) act like that then maybe that's why people hate them?

Its not limited to "YANKEES" but Europeans,Australians, Canadians also

This is the internet where you can't tell if the person is authentic unless you meet that person. You shouldn't believe everything you see in the internet.

Well, that's nice to know. So many school kids would complain about my teaching and demand a Canadian. Canadians are happy and make a good impression. However, maybe they're happy because Koreans are NOT insulting their nation. It's easy to love Koreans when you know Koreans don't have a grudge against you. But from my experience some Korean kids have a grudge and if you don't make a good connection then they bring it up.

But some Canadians get off on NOT being American. They wear the maple leaf like some kind of "I'm Cool" logo.

I really think the Korean public singles out Americans as bad. I know you think that the Korean public hates all foreigners. However, I don't that's true. Iv'e heard so many comments from kids saying they prefer Canada to the USA.

don´t blame you students.

they are mostly in the 6-12 year range.

Well, some of them are 15 years old etc. For example, a 15 year old brought up Ohno and then started mocking me (They do that thing with their hands. Probably he's saying a sissy or something like that'") They also have this hand thing they do (Americans do too) where they mock handicapped people. So a 15 year old is more knowledgeable.

But you gotta forgive people. But that job was sunk because of the mental depression. But the book that was given me was very boring. I think some younger kids would say "$hit American" or something like that because the class was not fun enough. Probably because I made them read. That's because the materail was not good enough.

But you know people are people. But you gotta get that comedy/actor glow going to make it thru days with bad material.

Of course, kids want to have fun. That's just natural. You can't really blame them for hating some of my classes. It's all about having that charm that wins them over. So if the teacher isn't spiritually enlightened and doesn't like his students then the right message doesn't get across.

don`t play the victim card.

If you are not suited to teach 15 year olds, then take kindergarten classes or don`t teach at all.

I'm not a victim. Kids are kids. I don't really like the grudges but just gotta work around it. Bottom they just want to have fun so if they like you then maybe they're beliefs will change.

Yes, I agree that's weak to play a victim all the time. The best remedy is to get in a leadership role and succeed. Iv'e done it before. Some of my classes were successful.

I think most anybody can teach. It's all about generatng a fun atmosphere.

I agree with this, but something made me a bit uneasy. Its probably because I am one of those apparently rare whites who can tell the difference between most Asians, if not by their features, than by their speech and cultural customs that I know most of my American friends do not notice. On one hand, yes, you should be offended by racism against other Asians, Chinese or otherwise, because of the fact that most racists only see a blur of what looks all the same to them and in those cases they are probably intending the insult for you as well. On the other hand, I would not want to see their lack of distinction perpetuated by not being called to the ignorant person's attention.

if reactionary is taking things done against ohno personally then he has a self-image problem and needs to get help for it.

i find that the vast majority of racists in korea are americans. just read the english teacher's websites and the korea times and you will see how vocal these 'superior' people are and how hatefilled they have become. yet all of them destroy their message and themselves by remaining in this country, remaining as teachers or obtain an 'f' series visa.

it would be wise of those americans to shut their country men up for it is always the vocal ones who ruin for everyone else. if the 'good' americans will not police their own people then who will?

if the 'good' americans do not like the response of the korean people towards their own countrymen, then they need to keep their countrymen in line not the koreans. this is korea and the koreans get to act any way they want, they have no place else to go, this is their land and the americans need to realizre that they are the visitors here not the owners.

too many americans (and some cdns.) think they are here to change the country to meet with western cultural ideas. that is not so. americans (and some cdns.) need to realize that this is the east and they are the guests and that they are the ones who have to adapt not the nationals. the western ways are as corrupt, bad, and inefficient as they accuse the eastern ways of being.

for every accusation made against the koreans, i can locate the same behavior being carried out by americans in their own country. if americans (and some cdns.) want change, then they need to start with themselves and their country not the koreans and theirs. america needs to clean up its own corruption, its own judicial system, its own ignorance of its constitution, its own hypocirsy before it can even think about changing the world.

until you do, no one is going to listen or accept what you have to say and you will be treated in the same manner you treat others. in effect, americans, and some cdns. , have nothing to say anymore for they and their countries are worse than korea.

use the korean reactions to americans as clues to help you find the trouble areas in your own countrymen and deal with those people first, then you will see a change in the korean people.

The is a slight problem with the question itself, Reactionary. It assumes that "regular" American can tell the difference between Koreans and other Asians. Some can, I certainly can, but most of my white friends cannot. Most of the time they cannot distinguish between Koreans, Japanese, Chinese. They have a little better luck with SE Asians because of their stature, but that is about as far as it goes. I have had people express surprise even when I can recognize the difference between someone with mostly Vietnamese traits and someone more Mongolian. I cannot imagine confusing the two, but apparently many westerners do.

As for how they are treated, the reactions seem to depend more on the distinction between "native" and "foreigner" and have little to do with where the foreigner may be from. If they are intolerant of language or accent differences, they are intolerant no matter what language it is. Often you find that attitude extends even to their own countrymen. New Englanders and Southerners are quick to ridicule each others accents - sometimes in jest, other times with disdain. If they are judgemental about facial features, it usually includes anyone whose facial structure varies too far from their own family or what they are most familiar with.

hopefully this trend will continue but your view is also incorrect because it depends upon the area you live. if you're asian living in hawaii, california (especially southern california), seattle, maybe nyc, some parts of metro houston or dallas, some northern metro areas etc, then you wouldn't notice a lot of racism or overt racism but still in other parts of the country there is more racism or prejudice.

the other person who mentioned racism against chinese and not other asians, of course that's not true. if they are racist against chinese, they are probably racist or prejudice against asians in general.

i've also been told places like vancouver and toronto are very comfortable for asians to live also.

IMO, American racism against to Korean people is not different from racism against to Asian people.
To average American, Koreans are same as other East Asians.

He's probably talking about Asian Americans, who are lumped together as a demographic group in the US.

Then he should learn the difference between "Korean" and "Korean American".

i have found that as soon as someone from a different country does something that americans (and some cdns.) do not like, they immediately become racist and attack the people for disagreeing with western ideas. it happens everywhere on boards like dave's, or blogs written by westerners in korea or who have been in korea.

such people cannot accept others for whom they are and feel they must change the dissenters and make them into whom the westerner wants them to be, even when it is not their country. such an idea has never worked in marriage so why do they try to do it with every other situation or industry?

I wish most of the forum learned that difference.

It's driving me nutty.

It's not just the internet forums or just individuals that these racist attacks happen. It's quite frequent especially behind closed doors where Americans won't be out in public with blatant racism and mistreatment. Of course this happens more within America than outside.

DEATH TO THE WHITE MAN

Thx for reminding me.

Wasn't this OP question was racism against to Koreans?


What's difference between Korean-American getting racially discriminated by Americans/others and Koreans from Korea getting racially discriminated in foreign countries?
After all they are all Koreans in genetically, which comes down to common RACISM issue.

Let's talk about Ethnic Koreans in China and North/South Koreans in China? I'm pretty sure Chinese racism against to Koreans aren't much different between Korean-Chinese and Koreans from Korea.

How about ethnic Koreans in Japan and Koreans from Korea in Japan, no difference other than ethnic Koreans in America, China and Japan have better language skills/understanding of US/China/Japan cultures than Koreans from Korea.

Btw people, racism =/= nationality/nation discrimination

These polling results are based on the country image rather than actual people.

To me, Koreans are threated like no different from Chinese/Japanese or East Asians from American whites/blacks/Hispanics

I have been mistaken for Chinese/Japanese or simply known as Asian from my white neighborhoods, when I've replied that I'm actually 'Korean' ethnic, they replied what is real difference between Korean and Japanese? That was my neighbors, so I've explained about few minutes, then one of them told me that I'm no different from any other Chinese/Japanese to their eyes.

Like otherwise, do most Asians care if Italian or Greeks? To me they are just another Mediterranean race, I actually threat them as same group of people.

i agree with you.

i also find that as soon as something happens in this country that is contrary to the expectations of the westerner then they automatically become racist and solely blame the korean people even if it isn't their fault. i have seen it happen too many times.

look. in America. racism isn't persay what ethnicity you are. but the fact that your asian.
maybe its different somewhere else. Ive only lived in california. Born and raised. Ive visited other states before.
Hawaii. Ohio. Maryland. Virginia.
I've drove through a few states too.
I've lived in the same area though my entire life.
And this is the perception that I get. No one really calls you by your ethnicity when your gettin called a racist remark. Only that your asian or a chinese.

I'll tell ya man. It was hard growing up as a minority. and especially one that was so different then white culture. In almost everything.

id say things just roll differently. koreans like to keep it all together. im thinking maybe every ethnicity does.

but here in america, there are so many damn ethnicities. even for the people who first settled in america(not the first people of america). there were germans, brits, etc.

its logical that itd be harder to keep it together.
i mean korea is a homogeneous country.

but im sure they all start that way. i mean the brits probably had it that way too.

and for some reason and chance they,(homogeneous people of britain) and minorities decided to settle elsewhere(america).

p.s. i bet no one from Korea is actually reading this. I bet all of you are from the states. And if a korean is reading this he's probably born and raised in america.

it's important to realize that opinions of country and racism in america are not exactly synonymous.

americans are pretty lame just as anyone else. americans which are predominantly euro will be less racist in general to those who have more euro features whether they be from pakistan or cuba etc. looks are highly important to them. i have seen the average white person be much more comfortable with an americanized mexican or indian simply because they look more euro than an americanized asian etc.

americans can keep going on with their value system while i laugh at it. actually, i want them to. lol

though i do not believe in racism, it is actually nationalism, i do see a lot of hatred and bad treatment of koreans by a majority of americans and cdns. they feel if a korean has treated them badly then they get to do the same in return. such an idea is wrong.

one just has to go to the myriad of english teacher blogs, english teacher websites to see the proof of the above. plus all theyhave to do is go to those cities which house many american soldiers and watch how they treat others to see that they do not care about koreans despite their words to the contrary.

yet one must remember that such bad treatment is an individual choice, which is sometimes influenced by the company one keeps. sometimes these people would act a lot better if they changed friends or simply turned the other cheek and did good to those who did evil towards them.

if one wants people to treat them better, they need to change themselves and examine how they treat others before making the accusation of racim.