Yibeichai dancers - Navajo


Brave Warrior - Jacarilla

Heh, my great grandmother (father's side) was one. Too bad I don't know much about them. Should do some research one of these days.

they are our "cousins" as part of the huge Mongoloid race!

Some natives were very brave.

Especially the Jivaro natives of the Peru and Ecuador Amazon.



The Incas and later the Spaniards would not mess with them. Even though the Incas and Spaniards were more advanced they could not cope with the primative Jivaros.

Some info. on them: http://www.head-hunter.com/jivaro.html

All life on Earth are cousins. You are also a distant cousin of a scorpion.

theres a native legend that they got their courage from Tank. they saw him drinking water from a stream. even the way he drank water was so manly, it inspired them.

So that gives you guys the right to mass immigrate and colonize us Native Americans and force your culture upon us just because the Europeans did in the last century? I am Native American in Alberta Canada and there are now Asians (koreans) in our reservation community opening conveiniance stores but not intergrating in the local culture. All becuase we have been finacially weakened by Europeans so the rich "Westerner" Asian take advange of the situatation for his own selfish gain as well uses our reservation as a "safe haven" from the racist white comminities becuase of cowardness to take on the blond european people directly in their towns. Yet asians complain when foreigners don't intergrate in their culture when going to Asia. Facist Hypocrisy. Asians are "Westerner/foreigners" when they step foot on Native American soil as Asia is the "The West" of us and have a technological/economical advange like"western" Europeans in the last century.

Sounds like you're still bitter with what the white man did to your people.

1. nobody is trying to colonize you guys

2. nobody cares what culture you follow or adapt (please explain the dreadful culture korean convenience stores bring )

3. stop making excuses. you guys have a HUGE alcoholic and drug problem. stop blaming people.

4. Asians have a good sense of business, yes. better get one if you want to compete.

5. are you drunk right now?? korean convenience stores are everywhere. they dont hide from white towns. wtf are you talking about.

6. when do Asians complain about white people not integrating into Asian culture??

7. LOL making excuses and blaming people is what you are best at huh. concentrate more on the kids who sniff gasoline before you blame asians. you guys have a huge gang problem as well. you only have yourselves to blame. seriously, you guys are like the mexicans in california. except you get your own reservations and government handouts.

those evil koreans!!!!

south korea is a first world countries with extremely high iq. if i was some tribal leader, i would personally invite 100000 korean to settle that area to raise the living standard of the local population. poverty is a desease that need to be cured.

Your answer to poverty "GENOCIDE"

Reagarding number 4> That's what creates the poverty "Western Business" The goal of Western Business is to use ones large population by creating huge profit for ithe invading race (Frist Europeans and now Asians)while raising the cost of living (creating poverty) for the invaded race(Native Americans) The Europeans beat us down and made us poor but now you guys come and raise the cost of living making it impossible to get out of poverty because we can't afford to get out of poverty. That European/Asian "Western Civilisation" for you.

And regarding number 6 explain to me phrases like "fu-king Gaijin, Laowai, Farang, and Gweilo"

I doubt you are native american. You sound more like a bitter white canadian to me....perhaps scared of asians succeeding in canada...only bitter white people who didn't get treated like "royalty" in asia would know those phrases...how pathetic....

western business created poverty? asians raise the cost of living so its impossible for natives to get out of poverty?

your problem is psychological. the natives are a defeated people, its your own mentality that holds you back. a lot of you seem to have a 24/7 debate going on in your heads about whats happened. constantly defending yourselves. yeah it wasnt fair, maybe cruel, life sucks. nobody is arguing, so stop doing it in your head because you guys are just using it as excuses for all your failures.

racist terms shows why asians want white people to integrate?

I would like to know how much of the invaders blood you have running in your veins .

just because you let what the Europeans did to you hate yourself which is even stronger when you see those with more similar characteristics as you like Asians or Koreans sp (who again are your relative in the Mongoloid race) thus misplacingly hating them as well and eventually blaming them for your current predicament when you see them having even the little influence and power in your society (as though that should be surprising). you have to unfortuneately blame someone for something in your dilapidated state. to the point where they (the Koreans in this case) are in the prefect position to help you for reasons the previous poster stated but you refuse out of ignorant stubborness and self-hate.

"I don't live this double life, benefiting from the fact that my house is built on some other tribe's land and then pretending to regret that. I'll always remember having to study Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, and everyone sobbing for the poor Indians, but nobody's gonna give them the land back. I mean, one way or the f*#king other: either you give them the land back, or you admit you're a predator and you eat meat.""

- Gary Brecher, War Nerd

ShawnSPS might represent a fringe opinion, or he might not. Either way, though, you guys should face the facts.

You are here because the Europeans conquered this land, and then invited you to join them for mutual economic benefits. Course it took a lot of convincing - Chinese Exclusion Act, anti-Asian immigration policies, and all that - but in the end the Western elites signed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and decided that they couldn't hold your race against you when it came to immigration (there are other things they hold against you, but officially at least, it's not race). So in you came - sharing in the conqueror's spoils.

And it's nothing new, of course. The European elites have been doing this (moving people from one part of the world to another for their own profits) for a long time. It's part of their imperial culture. When Europe's own peoples became too lazy and/or rebellious and/or decadent to serve them, they turned to others. Like you.

Are Koreans going to support Sioux independence? Are Chinese going to help the Native Americans get their land back? Are Japanese going to return Hawaii back to the natives?

Don't be ridiculous. And if not, then what's the point of all this "Mongoloid unity?" Mongoloid is not even an identity. It's certainly nothing compared to the heritage that China, Japan, and Korea share, and they hate each other.

There's no point to talking about cooperation when you don't share the same interests, and there's no point to talking about unity when you don't even have your own house (meaning East Asia) in order.

Yes, it would be wise to not refer to Native Americans as Mongoloid. Or one may argue that EAs are instigating a bond with Native Americans for our own selfish purposes. Oh right, ShawnSPS has already alluded to that.

It is not impossible to get out of poverty (unless you are an indian child labourer burdened with a lifetime of paying 80% interest on 5 cents an hour). I would understand if you were a single parent with kids or have a debilitating illness but you only seem to be offsetting the blame for your own inability to support yourself. The immigrants competing with you for jobs today were probably living in poverty a while ago, not unlike yourself.

Thing is, the world is not a fair place and if you think you're entitled to a job over an immigrant because your ancestors came here first, you are sorely mistaken.

Well, Asians reinforcing American Indian stereotypes and using the same arguments white folks use when countering Native grievances. Geez, who seems to be the most white-washed here? There goes all that "they are our cousins, they're mongoloid" bull$hit. Burden has it right. All that crap goes out the window when there's money and opportunity to be had. Any of y'all tell me again when Indians began to mass migrate to Asia and benefit from one group's occupation of another? Yeah, didn't think so. This reminds me of that one warning some dude was purported to have said about John Lennon's relationship with Yoko Ono. Something about not turning your back on them Japanese (or Asians for that matter) lest they slit your throat. Asia isn't a paradise itself, neither. The Golden Crescent, Triads, Tongs, a Muslim insurgency in the southern areas of the Philippines. The Dokdo/Takeshima issue between Koreans and Japanese who don't seem to put that $hit behind them like many here want skins to do with their issues. Chinese blaming Japanese for the Nanking massacre. Hans against Tibetans, the military junta in Myanmar nee Burma against it's own population. Wow.

Long time lurker at AF, new comer here at posting.

I like to point out something here as this is a topic that has always remained something close to me and it is of a concept that has kindled
certain passions inside me about perceptions relating to peoples who share close ties with Asian peoples and how it relates to my long time view that
there is more to be gained in this unity and cooperation as well as understanding (much broader scope of "Asian" Unity if one could ascribed such a thing) between our peoples rather than disunity and bickering and lack of understanding ona number of things, both broad and personal.

The truth of the matter is, We're much more closer than we think if we take into account all kinds of internal and external factors about our situations and our place in today's world.

As an East Asian myself, but whose life has been enriched all these years with long term and deep friendships and relations with folks from a number of indigenous backgrounds in the West including mingling and being close friends with folks belonging to the groups in the centre of this discussion here. I cannot help but point out here while there is no incentive, whether economic or political etc, for our peoples to come together, let alone come together at all in some imagined awkward embrace of universalhood in some pretentious "kumba ya" situation,

I am of the conviction that both our peoples on this side of the great blue yonder, of Asia and the Pacific and the peoples in that distant land (where once upon a time immemorial their ancestors of a cousin crossed over) are in a much better position than any other group in the world, to build bridges and to see and be astounded at how much commonalities all of us possess in relation to our understanding, our values, our perceptions of this world, and perhaps beyond that as well.

The potential to see our kinship and our commonalities should be emphasized just because, if not for the sake of seeing how great a potential future could be if we DID work together and I can tell you from my personal experience, it's worth it.

Yes we, understand the history, the politics, the social climate and all these issues. But in everything that an Asian or a Native American might bicker about concerning our personal attributes or non sequitur issues, there is more to be unlocked when we see how much is to be gained when we realize our links and work together.

It is not an identity, as such. No presecribed structure by academia or whathaveyou can label it. But I would try my best and say that contemplating building bridges of all kinds between Asians and Native Americans/Maori/Pacific Islanders etc. is an aspiration, an ideal that lurks, beckons beyond our perceived horizon, a dream that is still yet to even make manifest in the mind. Why? Because it reiterates just how dynamic and wonderful and diverse our humanity is. But even more so, with regards to when two distinct peoples of separate continents yet who amazingly share a kinship like no other peoples, a kinship that is cultural, behavioural, racial, social, even genetic, and perhaps even similar in spiritual outlook, when the two connect with each other and see how they in particular share distant yet distinct cultural bonds, it is just something to behold. Although I am not a Christian, I do marvel at the Biblical principle that the Book of Psalms says: "How good and how pleasant it is, for brothers and sisters to dwell together." and I and my own friends clearly see this with regards to Asians and Native Americans.

While I agree that "Mongoloid" unity whatever that is (and I agree that it is a pretty outlandish term) is absurd and is not something that is feasible in the current socio-political climate and I don't think many of the folks here are arguing in that tangent, I and probably other posters here do subscribe to the kind of optimistic vision that because our peoples and their peoples share so much there is alot to be gained, because the potential for social empowerment on so many levels you cannot imagine is there.

If I had more time right now, perhaps I can elaborate further in a discussion. But perhaps another time. I understand I am likely sounding very fantasizing about this. But I would say that connecting between our two sets of peoples is not something of a political goal (well as of now anyway) but it is a moral argument if not an imperative if we're to see that mentioned empowerment.

Its all about the $$$ now.
If Shawn is such a Die Hard make like the Irish.

Well the last sentence can apply to you to as well when in our communities.

good post.

Hm hm, it was the US government that cheated you, and yes it still took awhile to end racism and slavery after the Civil War, they cheated on their treaties and considered you guys potential hostiles for previous wars, so in the end I feel bad for Native Americans who fought for the US government on being cheated on promises from the government to meet the treaties. Then you got the massacres that ensued. I kind of wonder if the situation was different with the French and Native Americans up north. Why is there so few full blooded Native Americans? What, is it in your culture or religion to not breed or to die out of existence to teach the white dudes a lesson??

what are you talking about? i never have and never will go to a native community aka a reserve. i dont know anyone who lives in a native reserve...

reservations are fucced up places full of alcoholics

@Questionnaire - You said:

There are suppose to be between 40 to 50 Million. The thing is in the Americas the vast majority are not in Canada or the US but further South.

Read this on Native population: http://www.bluecorncomics.com/2008/05/toda...population.html

^ agreed, plenty in cenral/south america