when i watch this video , i could'nt imagine why most Malaysians were there just to watch people dying instead of helping . Mahathir , the former prime minister , once said that Vietnamese refugees who tried to enter Malaysian water would be shot. first i heard that ,i could n't believe that the leader of a country could say such stupid , heartless , outrageous thing . but after searching on the inernet , he really said that .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuO-TuOagxw

But did we really shot the Viets, no sirreeee!

Tun Dr Mahathir actually enacted the Viet refugee centers in MY, which become the major getaway for Viet's boat people from 1980s, which most of them relocated to USA, Canada, Australia & other countries. A few Viets become naturalised Malaysians, while others returned back to Vietnam in late 1990s as Vietnam prospered economically.

We've yet to shot dead any Viets .... in fact, we're swamped by Viets workers who worked at Malaysian factories.

You should know the true nature of Vietnamese. They are predatory parasitic arrogant ethnocentric people. Wherever they are they will destroy. They absorbed the entire Champa kingdom and killed off many Cham people, causing the displacement and fleeing of the Cham to many other countries in the region. During the Vietnam War, the Filipinos were fighting for the freedom of the South Vietnamese but the South Vietnamese turned around and STOLE and occupied a Filipino-controlled island until today. Look at the various Vietnamese enclaves in the United States. They cause a lot of problem to the long-time residents in those areas. Look at the case of Vietnamese people in relation to Cambodia. Even though, Vietnam is well developed with high employment rate, the Vietnamese settlers keep flocking into the Cambodia, a poorest country in the entire Southeast Asia and among the poorest in the world. Vietnamese fishermen supported by the Vietnamese navy come to plunder the fish resurces from the Cambodian sea at will without any regards to the Cambodian territory and international law at all. However, there were news reports of Vietnamese navy and Vietnamese fishermen capturing and killing the Cambodian fishermen doing activities within the Cambodian territorial sea and water. While illegal Vietnamese settlers take roots in Cambodia, Cambodians who went to seek jobs in Vietnam got deported by the truck loads back to Cambodia. So it is a good thing that the Malaysians know a thing or two about the predatory parasitic arrogant Viets. I thought only the Chinese and the Cambodians know about the Viets, but it seems more and more people are learning about the true inherent behavior of the Viets.

In addition, Vietnam has no humanitarianism toward any kind of people. There are always strings attached. There is a phrase that says, "To meet the Vietnamese is to always lose something; therefore, it is best not to have anything to deal with them."

Dear Preah, pls do not spew any ill-wills towards Viets in MYChat. If you've a grudge against them, that's your rights, but pls don't bring your turfwar here.

The majority of the Vietnamese people I have met are hardworking, intelligent people with a love for their community. I also have the prevelidge to call some of them my friends. A few have spent time in internment camps in Malaysia and to be honest it saddens and to some extent embarasses me(as an ex-Malaysian) when they recant their experiences to me. Without going into any detail, lets just say that their experiences were less then positive.

However before being critical of Malaysia, we need to put things in perspective. Refugees of any kind are a problem for any nation that has to deal with significant numbers of them and Malaysia is no different. Is Malaysia different, can this be used as an excuse. In an ideal world I guess not and although Malaysia isn't the best example of how to deal with refugees, she's not the worst either. Should they have been put in internment camps, in an ideal world I guess not but what other choice did the Malaysian govnt have? Yes they could have absorbed them into their community, but at what cost? At the time Malaysia was a much poorer country then it is today. And what about the social upheval? Would the majority Malay population have accepted the potential change in balance of power? We have seen in 1971, only a few years before these internment camps, what happens when Malays look like losing the balance of power. Could the govnt have taken the risk, humanitarian or not? What about the Chinese minority who traditionally did not get along with Vietnamese?

It is very easy for us to be armchair critics for something like this. Yes, refugees can and probably should be treated better by the world community in general, but before Malaysia is singled out one should look at the rest of the world in general and in particular your own country before weilding the stick. I know this is not an excuse but, if you want to be critical of Malaysia, then you should also be critical of most of the rest of the world.

Having said that, the treatment of true refugees, really needs to improve worldwide.

WTH I simply speak the truth and you don't even have the brain to understand the point of the message. You try Vietnamese and you will be absorbed. Their symbol is "bamboo" and the nature of bamboo is to spread and displace all like wild fire.

The one who has a problem is the poster of the thread. Perhaps you should reread it closely. Here you go:

If I may add, who want to deal with the Viets anyway since they are THIEVES and parasitic users of the natural resources of the host countries. It is all about acting and at the end they will rob you clean. How many nations in Asia have the Viets been provoking countless troubles with. Well if you don't know, here goes: China, Cambodia, Laos, Champa, Thailand, and the Phillipines...

Mark your observation well, swingdoctor. If they are hardworking and intelligent, therefore they should stay within their country's limits. However, they don't, and they just come to use the host countries' resources for their own benefit to improve "their [own] community". That is what thieves do. They rob from others to improve their livelihood. Thieves are hardwork and intelligent and that is why they can fool and easily take things from others. The Viet thieves do not ever contribute to any of the host countries.

Have you ever seen any refugees got accepted by the Vietnamese or their country of Vietnam? NO! The Vietnamese take the land from the native peoples, and on top of it they put down the native peoples and claim that they are superior to the natives. Ironically, you also praise them as "hardworking and intelligent". I wonder what they think of you.

When I say their community I don't just mean the Vietnamese community, I mean the Australian community on a larger scale and the community they live in ie their local area. The Vietnamese community in Australia, in my opinion has made this country richer culturally and the vast majority of them are productive contributers to our community.

WRT refugees, how many refugees actually try to get asylum in Vietnam? In terms of taking land from the native people, I assume you mean through history and through history tell me which people haven't. There are very few countries in the world today where the first inhabitants still "rule". I don't need them to tell me what they think of me, I'm quite comfortable in what I think of myself.

I have a Vietnamese friend who went through medical school with me, upon graduation, instead of setting up a lucrative practice in the city, he decided to set up his clinic in a rural Aboriginal community, providing "free" medical care. Among all the doctor friends I have, he is the only one to have done something like that.

Nice try Dawg. I can always smell a DAWG as you from afar. Your evidence simply does not add up to your favorable OPINION of them Viets. In fact, the government of Australia has always had its handful with the Viet immigrants. Why don't you google for Viet criminals in Australia. Do you remember that one Vietnamese Australian who made the news headlines around the world for shaming Australia by getting hanged in Singapore by the government of that city-state. Do you know how many patients were dead because of the misdiagnosed by the Viet "doctors"? Enough of your example of a Vietnamese free clinic in the rural area, DAWG. This is similar to the numerous liquor stores sprouting up in the poor neighborhoods. Your Viet dawg is out there to get experience from those native people. Just like the unscrupulous owners of liquer stores are out there to get the money from the alcohol-addicted customers. So much for the help.

Dawg, stop changing the subject. It is unbelievable that you extol these Viet minority when they use the resources provided by the Australian government and tax payers. Back in their country of origin, the Viets continually bash their own minority peopleS and do not ever value those peoples' contribution at all. What can I say, DAWG, you are just a hypocrtical dawng and therefore it is only natural that you are flocked together with the Viet dawgs. Last request though: Don't go around misdiagnose your patients because if you are not up to the job, don't guess for people are not cars.

Sigh, get this bub, did you just come here to provoke us or the Viets? Take your turfwar there @ VietChat. We don't give a fart. MY has been economic haven to countless migrants. They come, & they go. They even contribute to MY development.

Get this straight, we ain't that racist to Viets. Even some Malays in Terengganu are descended from Viet Chams. Naturalised Viet refugees who become our citizens have fully assimilated into either Malaysian Malays or Malaysian Chinese.

Nowadays we've only Viet migrant workers working in construction sectors & manufacturing industry. There's nothing wrong in that. Viet workers generally do not make troubles to Malaysian society.

Take your war elsewhere.

Dang, man, you start the problem and now you want me to blame me. WTF? OK, I will keep quiet. By the way, there is no such thing as Viet Chams. So get your terminology straight. Chams are Chams and Viets are Viets. However, please read the hightlighted parts of your own thought above.

Vietnam are made by many ethnicities & tribes. Yes, there are Viet Chams as well. I in fact know atleast 3 of 'em who studied at International Islamic University in Malaysia.

I used Viet to generally to those of Vietnam nationalities, for easy net usage & personal preference.



Nope, kiepngheo started the thread. I only corrected his view. You come with all guns blazing in condemning Viets. WTF indeed ...

KiepNgheo is a Viet and you need Viets for your personal preference and so you should keep flocking together with them. Keep on hanging and riding with the Viets, Kompung BOI.

Its up to you, troll. Its MYChat, Malaysian turf. Go to your own since you can't even contribute positively in MYChat.

Wow, so this is the educated mind of Malaysia. I can't believe it that you have been reduced completely to a name-calling idiot that will eventually be admitted into the top-notch Malaysian asylum soon.

Well I guess the question is are you from Vietnam?

Have you been to Australia? If not then how the fu-k do you know how they are viewed here? Yes there are Vietnamese people here who are a burden to our society, but you would be a racist if you paint the entire community with the same brush. FYI, all the other minority races including the majority white anglo saxon race and aboriginie population also have their social misfits. In fact why don't you google alchoholism in the aboriginal community and see what you come up with. And how dare you insult my friend when you don't even know him. Tell me what community service do you contribute to? Other wise what gives you the right to judge others. And show me what evidence you have to show that Vietnamese doctors contribute to more patient deaths then doctors of other races.

As far as we are concerned, yes Australia has provided the opportunity for the Vietnamese to succeed, but she does for all her residents not just the Vietnamese. In fact considering that most came over with nothing but the shirts on their backs, what they have achieved is nothing short of remarkable. Australia provided the opportunity, their hard work did the rest.

Call me what you want, you're racist.

Pot calling the kettle black, haha. What an @$$, you've done exactly the same thing.

I am of an upper class society and my various companies and products have contributed the the improvement of lives the world over, if you should know. For your information, I also have business operation in Vietnam, you lowly under class. Without the medical tools and medicines provided by my comapnies to the world, you are useless in your field. Now bow your head and pray that you will not lose your professional license soon.

I know it. The more you hang and cheat with the Viets, you will eventually become a gangster.

As far as I'm concerned if you are getting rich from it, its not a community service. but its obvious from your responses, you are trying very hard to be a troll, so I guess Proto is right, it is better to just ignore you. Bye-bye .

Y'know, the troll try so hard to impress everybody, but his anti-Viet vitriolics & childish responses made us simply lose any respect for that trouble maker. Let him be, let's give him the silent treatment.

In the good ol' days, I used to hammer every trolls that came my way, most of 'em went extinct after constant badgering, due to being exposed of how stupid they're for all the forummers to see & judge.

I am itchin' to hammer this noobie too (he only sign up in '08 - noobs), but alas, I'm mellowed down, perhaps due to maturity. Pushing the IGNORE button is much more easier.

What actually does the ignore button do and where is it

So SwingDoctor, you are med grad student? This is what is said about your kind and your Vietnamese friendS. Just google search the titles listed if you want more information, you under class STUPID A-hole.

Check out some news and statements I found online:

(1) Doctors Are 9,000 Times More Likely to Accidentally Kill You Than Gun Owners

(2) Doctors Who Kill by Regina Dwyer: There have been dozens of doctors convicted of murder and mass murder in famous public trials, including classic crimes of passion as well as various questionable "mercy" killings. For some doctors, their training and practice, may make it easier, not harder, to kill.
To them, people who are suffering or merely inconvenient become unsalvageable. In the end, doctors are no different than other people. Their ranks have and will always include the deeply flawed, the greedy, the delusional, bunglers, rationalizers and just plain sociopaths - like every other population.

(3) Vietnamese Doctors Misdiagnose Seven Bird Flu Cases: The tests in question were originally conducted in Vietnam and then sent to Japan where they were retested and the virus discovered. News of the misdiagnosis is particularly troubling because of a case of a Vietnamese health care worker who seems to have contracted the disease from a patient. --D.R. Boyer

(4) The Nortorious Biloxi Pill Mill Case: Biloxi-Gulfport Sun Herald reports that the police has arrested the Vietnamese Dr. Trieu and his Vietnamese wife Doctor Van, and the Vietnamese pharmacist Tran for acting like drug suppliers, writing and filling prescriptions to controlled substances to patients who just ask and pay for them.
(5)Vietnamese doctors By Elizabeth Heath: The serious problem in Vietnam is the lack of properly skilled medical practitioners and professionals.

(6) Plastic surgery in Vietnam: (AFP) In Ho Chi Minh City, at least 200 plastic surgery clinics are in operation, but only 50 or so are accredited by the city health authorities. Most clinics offer breast surgeries and liposuction, using colourful ads, dubious references and certifications that may or may not be authentic. A few weeks ago, a Vietnamese surgeon was barred from practising after performing an unauthorized operation. A judicial inquiry has been opened. Surgeons often train on the job here, and they offer their services to shady beauty salons and spas, where plastic surgery is performed in a back room with only an hour’s notice.

Hey Kompung BOI, you need to behave before I biatch slap your ugly face with none other than your own hands. Education my AZZ, you under class loser. I bet your ability will not thrive anyelse on earth at all except in your stinkhole, you loser!

So other professions don't kill? There are no bad apples in any other profession. Tell me, you claim to work for companies that sell medical equipment, what is your profit margins? You claim that this is your "community service", yet in my opinion your motive is money. Tell me how much of your equipment do you donate to poorer countries to aid in their health care? Tell me how much do you donate to the poor and needy?

So what if there are Vietnamese doctors who have made mistakes, either on purpose or acciental. So what if there are greedy Vietnamese doctors? Show me any study to show that Vietnamese doctors are worse then any other race. I can tell you I have read and met unscrupulous doctors of every race and in every country I have been to. Malaysia, Singapore, China, Australia and the US being one of the worst offenders. How affordable is health care in the US? Poorer countries never have access to more sophisticated testing equipment, as a result false negatives(and positives) are not uncommon, but this is not something that is isolated to Vietnam. If companies like yours were more concerned about healthcare and less concerned about profit margins then maybe the equipment wouldn't be as unaffordable. Same goes with quality of medical education in poorer countries. In general the poorer the country, the low the quality of medical training. Currently in Australia, it costs about $240000AUD to train 1 student to be a doctor, and this doesn't include post graduate training. Tell me which countries can afford to spend so much, particularly when their population isn't even well fed.

So far all you've demonstrated to me is that you are bigoted. And let me tell you this, all of us are young enough that you don't need to increase the size of the letterings, we can all read well enough. And making the words bigger just highlight what an @$$ you are.

Wow preahvihear is definitely troll status. Malaysian Chat needs efficient mods, and it needs them now.

In Thai Chat, there are so plenty of trolls , don't worry!
Mods are not gonna do anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know why Cambodian cannot do anything but bragging
about their greatest past, then they cannot do anything better than that
but fighting. Khmer Rouge is typical Khmer nature who kill millions of their own kind
and Vietnamese troops really save them from being extinct. Surprisingly, Khmer people
don't give any thank to Vietnam but to blame this and that to discredit Vietnam.
Now I know why Vietnamese people don't like them.

Viet Nam Jia O Ma Ja Jee Wit Ler Ta Boung Ro Boh Juan Jiat Khmer!
Now do you get it? Phra Viharn?????????????

I don't have any problem Malaysian people or culture.But, I think that the Malaysian government using Thai tactic of abusing refugees.

At least, it is good not to use Khmer tactic of killing their own people and discrediting other country's name.
In the first of next month, Cambodia will set up a ritual to subdue and to curse Thailand. What a shameless country!

How come this thread have become a battleground and Swingdoctor caught in the middle of it ? Wow.....

Can wait to see that.

Here he shows his true color, he is the source himself.
No wonder Kid! Thai people will make merit to Khmer race on this day
to extend loving kindness to all Khmer people in Buddhist style
So the curse won't work and will fall upon the evil one who make the curse
at the first place. I will also pray Du-ah for your nation and race too

Don't worry Don't worry

Don't be scared. Their black magic won't help. If it really works Thailand wouldn't exist. Many of them are just a bunch of forest people pretending to have supernatural power like Harry Potter.

The black did work, just look at all the chaos in Thailand.

How I wish the mod would actually do his/her job!

Haven't you heard? They are all trapped in Hawaii.

Forever.

I'm back from a day of moving products. What are you complaining about now, you STUPID JERK! I thought earlier you made a statement of them as the hardworking and intelligent kind. So when the evidence reveals that they are aslo hardworking and intelligent in committing crimes and erros, and you now behave as a dog, you stupid jerk. Back up, your AZZ next time, you STUPID Jerk! I always rule over a nitwit as you, you dirt. What amaze me is how you claim to be an educated medical $hit! You are the lowest dirt I have ever seen, you STUPID JACKAZZ. Lol.

Preahvihear is a very angry person.

Uhhum, sorry for derailing the thread ... but Crystal, uhhhh, I kinda noticed you itty bitty almost transparent new sig .... lest my eyes deceived me .... kitak kah boya nya di air nan tenang?

Haha boya indah. Sikda lah, peribahasa jak tok... nang mena ba, air yang tenang jangan disangka tiada buaya. Mungkin boleh diaplikasikan untuk situasi-situasi yang tertentu... terutamanya bila ada TROLL kat sitok.

Ha ha, it seems the truth is coming out. You work for a company "moving products", you work on the factory floor? So let me guess, you're jealous that some Vietnamese are more "successful" then you are? Otherwise why do you keep making a reference to status and who is better then whom and ruling over someone? Are you so status concious because you believe your status is percieved as being "lower" then the Vietnamese in the society that you live in? Are you jealous of a Vietnamese boss perhaps, or maybe a lady you were interested in preferred the advances of a Vietnamese man rather then yours. Come on, tell us the real reason why you despise the Vietnamese so much and why you are so bigoted towards them.


Yes in my opinion, the Vietnamese I have met in general are hard working, I never said all of them were. But have I met bad apples of other races, sure I have, I've met Chinese ones, Malays, Cambodian, Indian, Sri Lankan, Whites etc. Are the bad apples among the Vietnamese worse then other races? In my experience no different. You on the otherhand seem to be hell bent on proving that all or most of the Vietnamese are bad people. The guy who runs the grocery shop that I used to custom. When he first started and it was only him and his wife, they opened from 8 am till 8 pm, seven days a week 52 weeks a year, closing only on Chinese New Year. They did that for years with the kids as they got older helping them on weekends before they were successful enough to hire other employees. But by doing so he put 4 kids through school and Uni. I used to work 80 hour weeks, it takes alot to impress me when it comes to hard work but he did, and he is not the only Vietnamese family with that story. There are very many wealthy Vietnamese families that I know, and all of them got to where they were through nothing more then hard work. And unlike you, they are humble and they are certainly not bigoted.

Yep, you said it all. Despite your education and your many wealthy Vietnamese friends, you still don't understand how to write properly nor do you understand the status of a company owner such as me, you moronic dirt!

Read about your persistent hardworking Vietnamese friends here:

Tuesday June 16, 2009
Vietnamese tries to enter Malaysia again
By SHAHRIL CHE WAN


KUALA TERENGGANU: An unrepentant fisherman from Vietnam, who previously served three months in jail for trespassing into Malaysian waters in 2006, repeated his offence recently - this time, bringing along six other countrymen.
However, the 33-year-old failed in his attempt as he was caught by the Malaysian Maritime enforcement agency officers after a high-speed chase at sea on Friday.

It is believed the Vietnamese had told the six other fishermen that he was able to get them into Malaysian waters without detected by the Malaysian authorities.

Kuala Terengganu Maritime Commander Syed Mohd Fuzi Syed Hassan said the group of Vietnamese, on board a C2 fishing boat with engine, was first spotted by officer Ahmad Maulana Dollah on board a speedboat about 66 nautical miles off the coast.

Upon noticing the authorities, the group of Vietnamese attempted to flee and a pursuit at sea ensued.

After 15 minutes of chase, all the seven foreigners, aged between 17 to 68, were detained for not having identification documents and valid fishing permits, he said.

Syed Mohd Fuzi added that while escorting the seven back, his officers stumbled upon another Vietnamese fishing vessel that had trespassed into Malaysian territory.

The 17 people on board the second vessel, aged between 16 to 55, were detained and their catch weighing 3,000 kilos seized.

All the foreign fishermen were arrested under Section 15 (1)(a) of the Fishery Act 1985 for illegally fishing in Malaysian waters.

If convicted, the boat captain can be fined up to RM1mil, while each crew is liable to be fined up to RM100,000 or jailed up to six months.

We are too soft to those Illegal fishermans. anyway why don't we seize their boat?