lifting the curb on Laos. The Siamese, French, Japanese, and now certain fractions of the Hmong are trying stop Laos from making progress. I'm starting to wonder if Laos can ever live in peace without outside forces trying to drag us down. Seriously, what gives?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/KF30Ae01.html
"President Barack Obama has determined that Cambodia and Laos have both shown commitment to open markets, including through more liberal investment laws and fewer market controls, and should no longer be considered "Marxist-Leninist" countries as defined by the 1945 Export-Import Bank Act, the White House announced on June 12...Obama's decision was highly criticized by US-based ethnic Hmong groups, comprised of people who fled Laos after the 1975 communist takeover and claim their relatives continue to be persecuted by the authoritarian regime...
US-based Hmong activists have said that the Obama administration should first secure guarantees from the Laos government for the safety of the Hmong and investigate claims of human-rights abuses before agreeing to improved diplomatic and economic ties..."
Full Version: Hmong Criticized Obama Again For...
Laos will be fine........ 
QUOTE (PassionOfLanxan @ Jun 30 2009, 12:46 PM) 
lifting the curb on Laos. The Siamese, French, Japanese, and now certain fractions of the Hmong are trying stop Laos from making progress. I'm starting to wonder if Laos can ever live in peace without outside forces trying to drag us down. Seriously, what gives?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/KF30Ae01.html
"President Barack Obama has determined that Cambodia and Laos have both shown commitment to open markets, including through more liberal investment laws and fewer market controls, and should no longer be considered "Marxist-Leninist" countries as defined by the 1945 Export-Import Bank Act, the White House announced on June 12...Obama's decision was highly criticized by US-based ethnic Hmong groups, comprised of people who fled Laos after the 1975 communist takeover and claim their relatives continue to be persecuted by the authoritarian regime...
US-based Hmong activists have said that the Obama administration should first secure guarantees from the Laos government for the safety of the Hmong and investigate claims of human-rights abuses before agreeing to improved diplomatic and economic ties..."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/KF30Ae01.html
"President Barack Obama has determined that Cambodia and Laos have both shown commitment to open markets, including through more liberal investment laws and fewer market controls, and should no longer be considered "Marxist-Leninist" countries as defined by the 1945 Export-Import Bank Act, the White House announced on June 12...Obama's decision was highly criticized by US-based ethnic Hmong groups, comprised of people who fled Laos after the 1975 communist takeover and claim their relatives continue to be persecuted by the authoritarian regime...
US-based Hmong activists have said that the Obama administration should first secure guarantees from the Laos government for the safety of the Hmong and investigate claims of human-rights abuses before agreeing to improved diplomatic and economic ties..."
^You should post this on Hmong Chat and see what they think....one would think that a "more free and normal" trade relation would benefit all....but it leaves oneself to ask why some people would stop at nothing to keep their loved ones or former enemies co-dependent?
QUOTE (Nangdee @ Jun 30 2009, 06:02 PM)
^You should post this on Hmong Chat and see what they think....one would think that a "more free and normal" trade relation would benefit all....but it leaves oneself to ask why some people would stop at nothing to keep their loved ones or former enemies co-dependent?
I think some Hmongs have a hidden agenda.
I think some Lao are in denial. How many Hmongs have to die before you open your Chinese eyes.
"President Barack Obama has determined that Cambodia and Laos have both shown commitment to open markets, including through more liberal investment laws and fewer market controls, and should no longer be considered "Marxist-Leninist"
With the trade restrictions removed, American companies can apply for financing
through the Export-Import Bank of the United States for working capital guarantees, export credit insurance
and loan guarantees to conduct business in Cambodia and Laos.
Time to celebrate Bratpittlover.
With the trade restrictions removed, American companies can apply for financing
through the Export-Import Bank of the United States for working capital guarantees, export credit insurance
and loan guarantees to conduct business in Cambodia and Laos.
Time to celebrate Bratpittlover.
My grandpa just came back from visiting Laos and he told me the Hmongs are not up in the mountains hiding, they are and been treated like normal citizens just like the other ethnic minority from Laos.
I'm pretty sure it's only a select few soldiers that are killing some of the Hmongs. Yes some of those Hmongs are not like the Hmongs who betrayed their country but I'm pretty sure there are a few seeds and perhaps the soldiers think that those Hmong will repeat what their ancestors did? I'm not sure whatever the case maybe, let's just hope it doesn't end up like the Khmer Rouge.
I'm pretty sure it's only a select few soldiers that are killing some of the Hmongs. Yes some of those Hmongs are not like the Hmongs who betrayed their country but I'm pretty sure there are a few seeds and perhaps the soldiers think that those Hmong will repeat what their ancestors did? I'm not sure whatever the case maybe, let's just hope it doesn't end up like the Khmer Rouge.
It never fails to surprise me that all I hear about Hmongs is that they betrayed their country. My father was a government official who was educated in the best schools of Laos. When he was recruited by Vang Pao it was under the name of a Lao Prince. It was a civil war. A regium change. Communism against Non-communism. They were just on the losing side. I still remember when one of the prince's sons came to California from France everyone was so happy and celebrated his return.
Just like many wars. You have the winner and loser sides. North Vietnam beat South Vietnam and some South Vietnamese generals and officials have a hard time going back to vietnam.
In my opinion some of them are too brainwashed to think independently because of Vang Pao idealistic and separation between Laos and the people? I have met maybe one or 3 out of a hundreds hmong here who hates Laos and the people without any answers to why? And they would personally would walk away or get angry at me about this question. The reason I ask these question is because it never really been answer.
QUOTE (thaoclangurl @ Oct 16 2009, 06:34 PM)
It never fails to surprise me that all I hear about Hmongs is that they betrayed their country. My father was a government official who was educated in the best schools of Laos. When he was recruited by Vang Pao it was under the name of a Lao Prince. It was a civil war. A regium change. Communism against Non-communism. They were just on the losing side. I still remember when one of the prince's sons came to California from France everyone was so happy and celebrated his return.
The war in Laos been over since 1975. We don't need any more turmoil in Laos.
Sometimes I wonder if the Vietnamese and Cambodians in the U.S. think of overthrowing their government like some Hmong and Lao people in the U.S. Or just is it just Laotians abroad.
The Vietnamese and Cambodians were just affected by Communism. I don't hear them talking about overthrowing their government.
QUOTE (OiySammii @ Oct 17 2009, 07:03 AM)
In my opinion some of them are too brainwashed to think independently because of Vang Pao idealistic and separation between Laos and the people? I have met maybe one or 3 out of a hundreds hmong here who hates Laos and the people without any answers to why? And they would personally would walk away or get angry at me about this question. The reason I ask these question is because it never really been answer.
Yes, I second that. Too many people believe blindly in these ideals
QUOTE (MightyLanxan @ Oct 17 2009, 04:49 PM)
The war in Laos been over since 1975. We don't need any more turmoil in Laos.
Sometimes I wonder if the Vietnamese and Cambodians in the U.S. think of overthrowing their government like some Hmong and Lao people in the U.S. Or just is it just Laotians abroad.
The Vietnamese and Cambodians were just affected by Communism. I don't hear them talking about overthrowing their government.
Sometimes I wonder if the Vietnamese and Cambodians in the U.S. think of overthrowing their government like some Hmong and Lao people in the U.S. Or just is it just Laotians abroad.
The Vietnamese and Cambodians were just affected by Communism. I don't hear them talking about overthrowing their government.
Actually, if you can remember back in the nineties, there were some Vietnamese men who took Good Guys store hostage supposedly so they can fly back and fight the Viet Cong....There's always a few who want to take action
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