Imagine oversea Tibetans, if they are quiet how would they appear in front of the whites. I bet majority of them would feel the white look them down. But flying the anti-China flag would give them some protection.

Imagine how would the Japanese Premiere would react in front of all the white leaders during the G8 meeting. Yup, predictably, Japan always attacked China behind its back in front of the all white folks. It always like that. It's definitely some kind of defensive mechanism to draw the attention away from the fact that Japan is only asian country there. On this G8 meeting, Japan attacked China of colonizing Africa, by taking away many rented African farmland to produce foods for the country. Previous meetings Japan always mentioned something bad about China.
WHy Japan always need to bad mouth CHina in front of white group meetings? WTF.
But as soon as Japan has an asian or direct meeting with China , then it's polite as hell.A bunch of self-sconscious asian dudes using anti-china flag as protection from the whites.

I think this trend is quite prominent among the minorities.. The white scheme of divide and conquer is quite evident.. The flying of anti-china is quite a demonstration of that. Certain minorities have demonstrate this, that they belong to IN group and resort to attack China that they part the of membership or invitees to the white party.

lol that might be a bad thing if China was looking to compete in serving the white countries.

thats one thing i noticed about these China bashers. they keep saying "the world thinks China is this" "the world thinks that".

the world? who cares!? LOL. where did they get the impression China is trying to suck up to the west and join the "popular" group? from the beginning China was being strong for China. its not joining a power pole in the world, its becoming its own.

even dumber, is the China bashers know this and always harped on China becoming a rival, countering America. etc. so they obviously know China isnt looking to suck up to anybody. that flips the SECOND there is a Chinese situation, and they start ranting about the "world" like China gives a $hit.

yes, saying "the world" thinks w/e sounds very nice. but it only has teeth if that country is actually trying to join that @$$-kissing-the-west club.

well those who really think they can suck up to the west andassume that the west truly cares abt their plight and struggle are really delusional.they dont realize that they are merely tools 4 the west.

This hardly makes sense. It sounds like you're saying the reason they protest, etc. is to impress Westerners??? Maybe you can reword what you're implying?

The problem is those minorities who obvious have low self-esteem problem and desperately who want to accepted to be part of "world community" use the china bashing tactic and hope to join and be accepted by the group.
Funny how they always end up doing the China bashing.. not anybody else no russians, iranians, north koreans, not al quaeda, not the extreme muslim extremists, not african tyrants, south America drug lords... it always China China China.

The funnyt shi$ is Japan 99% of time always bad mouth China in front of the white audience. It's almost become self reflex for Japan. Psychologically, that's fuk up if you always have to put down and step on someone else just be accepted and not be feel discriminated by the whites in a groupie situation. Definitely an insecurity issue.

"angry-azn man" topic.

it's not an asian versus white thing. The thread is more about some of the minorities's mindsets.

it's no surprise coming from Japan, there are so tied up to the United States in in terms of electronice exports and bonds held that they are on the same ship, or a sinking ship, Chinese economy relies heavily on manufacturing atm, that allows them to whether the economic storm far better, obviously there's a huge sense of jealousy there. Maybe America should stop banning it's weapons export to countries like Chad and other warring countries around the nation before speaking up on this issue, and trying to take the moral high ground. Most laughably, they couldn't come up with a single fact on what China did wrong in Africa, when their venture are based on mutual gains so they dig for any dirt under the rug they could find.

Rather then moving hans into minority designated regions which gives them more wealth, a much better idea would be to create bantustans were they can practice their culture and rot even quicker.

I agree.

So you want to create ghettos?

I'm more disturbed that you want anyone to "rot" at all. It doesn't show very much sophistication.

All I got to say is minorities in 'China' should have equal rights! This is the only reason why TIbetans and other groups protest in the west. They have the right to do so! If it was in China, those rights would be stopped!

There is nothing sophisticated at all. Eradicate the extremists.

It didn't seem like extremists were being talked about just now, it seemed like general minorities (particularly the ones that want to preserve their culture) were being talked about.

Why would you go on killing? That would make it worse! Than the world would eye China! I say give equal rights, where it belongs!

agree. it is NOT equal rights for Han Chinese.

Give equal rights to the minorities in 'China'.

if its equal, minorities will no longer be exempt from one child policy. wont get any benefits for being a minority. held by the same standard for getting into college.

it is definitely not fair. but for han chinese.

Your saying having equal rights is bad Wow! It's not fare for the minorities being forcibly occupied in their own land! On top of that being treated like second class, thats wrong!

where did i say that? quote me.

"fair"

you completely ignored my post. didnt address a thing and instead invented some claim that i supposedly made.

THAT'S wrong

You made it sound like equal rights for the minorities is bad coz they have to sacrifice any benefits for being a minority. Including getting into a college in 'China' and no longer exempt from the one child policy. If thats the sacrifice than be it! Like I said before it's better than treated like second class in their own land!

no i didnt. that was your interpretation.

i stated fact, if its going to be equal, then make it actually equal.

i noticed you keep using "China". make no mistake about it, Tibet IS Chinas. that IS Chinese land.

your claim about being second class citizens does not coincide with all the benefits they get simply for being a minority. not even non white americans get that kind of special treatment.

though they do get some. i remember the news reported white capable fire fighters were passed because there needed to be more minority fire fighters or something.

I was referring to the minorities, not just Tibetans. If you want to talk about TIbet, than okay...Tibet is completely different from the China, and thats a 'fact'. Language, Culture, and Tradition! Tibet was it's own kingdom on again off again from the 7th century til 1950, when China invaded and asserted rule. It's sad to see how Tibetans are minorities in their own land, such a massive influx of Han Chinese moving in now.

so was I. its not only tibetans that get the benefits.

Tibet is no different from Han Chinese than MANY other minorities are.

repeat: Tibet IS Chinas. the land IS Chinese. (present tense)

your recount of history is nice but is not relevant to my point.


its so tiring to hear people claim tibet was a victim. how is your history?

did the tibetan empire invade the tang capital? yes or no.

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Okay you clarified that Tibet is in the hands of the Chinese government 'now'... but they were a separate nation from China, am I right or wrong? They occupied Xi'an in the 8th century, which was the Imperial capital of the Tang Dynasty, yes! TIbet and China was in conflict through out, but Buddhism spread as a national religion through the Abbot Shantarak$hita and Acharya Padmasambhava. During the 9th century TIbet signed a peace treaty with China, which defined the borders. Stone pillars were erected because of this treaty! One in Lhasa, one in Xi'an, and one at Mt. Gungu Meru on the border. On the pillars it had an inscription which read "Tibet and Tang shall respect the current borders. Here-after, neither country shall invade the adjacent land with armed forces".

yes, and? Tang did not break that treaty.

Yuan Dynasty was not bound by Tang treaties anymore than PRC is today.


my main point is people always like to paint Tibet as peaceful monks, and China just attack them out of nowhere in 19th century. This is NOT accurate and Tibet and China have had conflict much earlier than 19th century.

This is the deceptive nature of getting religion involved with politics. I'm not saying that the core beliefs of religion are bad , but more than often there are very aggressive political groups who mask themselves behind religion in order to gain moral standing or sympathy from the mainstream.

I think your comments are very accurate, and actually it describes a certain pertinent stream of thought in the Japanese mentality. They think they are in a "Western" group, or club, and they feel that other Asians are more "down" than them. This has some history background as well, it didnt happen out of the blue. They did this from way back, starting from Meiji period thereabout, when they strive to " join Western"

Now in G8, Japan is the one who got most anxious and antsy about China joining it, more so than USA, and this is because they fear their "status" as the only Asian country in a Western block will be eroded or diminished, something that they psychologically cannot bear to accept. Why? Because in their mind, they still have the old mentality that they are a "special Asian" who is "on par and inside Western club" while looking at other Asians as some kind of stupid cousins from the village.

This is a disease with the Japanese mentality, they have identity issues.

The reason they attempt so much to join the west is because at one point they realized without a strong ally (the west) they can't stand on their own. And at the time , asia was going downhill so chose what they considered the winning team.

This can be viewed as lowly or an intelligent move to survive depending on your perspective. Ironically Japanese bushido culture emphasizes on honor until death , but the actions of their leaders during this time does not display that.

haha it's like highschool all over agian. It's all a popularity contest. America is like the most popular girl in school and europe are her lackies. China has always been the fat, ugly, unpopular girl but then she went to fat camp and got a makeover during the summer. Then when school started everyone started noticing china because she got all hot and $hit and gets the attention of africa (a sexy black dude) and america is jealous. So now the IN crowd does everything in their power to talk $hit about china and bring her down. They use their popularity to get support from wannabes. Japan is the biggest wannabe in school and does everything possible to become popular - even if that means playing both sides of the fence.

Haha sounds like a cheesy teen drama but it sums up global politics....lol

i dont like this analogy