that's Asmirandah half dutch half indonesian
i dont get the whole hype about her. she's not that special, cute yes
i'm not fond with half white half seasians

You're a hypocrite. if anything you're doing the same thing.

since when...please

all the SEASians I posted look native to SEAsia

Mestiza Filipinas

Sandra Seifert


Krissa-Mae Arieta


Francine Prieto


Mary Ann Umali


Bianca Araneta

Filipina-Spanish Mestiza
Marian Rivera



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Filipina-Sheena Halili

Chinita Filipinas - Mga Babaeng Comedyante - Chinese Filipina Female Comediennes

Pokwang


Ai-Ai Delas Alas

Can the fillipino post up pure Pinays not mix please!! Why are you people so obsess with whites! I'm not too fond of mix races! Let's keep it Riel!

whether they r mixed or not, they r still filipinos. besides, there arent any "pure" filipinas coz the real pure brown ones are maids in hong kong. the ones that are stars are light skin. some pinays are still pure but they are light skinned. thats because they never go out the house. they are rich so they let the maids or common dark people do shopping, cooking & housework for them. i think in any asian culture, light skin is preffered.

^^^ I know that the Philippines prefer light skin over dark skin but I think that your country is base on a class distinction rather than a color distinction! Being a mix race especially if they are half white and Fillipino they usually get more opportunities even if the pure pinays/pinoy are light skin! Not to mean that it's a bad thing! Cambodia do prefer light skin over dark skin but it's not a class distinction! It's a rather color distinction! But Cambodia now prefers both skin colors either if your dark or light now a days in the media! Though I know that Cambodia doesn't like half white mixes there! I know Indonesia is one of the country who doesn't like half white races though I could be wrong!

Pinoys have an inferior complex, that's why they call themselves Pacific Islanders.

Anyways, where r all da vietdamese gurl at? I like da vietdamese gurl in Nam Vang. I want to go to Nam Vang so much. lol

I think the most prettiest would be an Indonesian! I use to work with one and it was my first time encountering an indonesian lolz! She was really pretty!

Never met an Indonesian or even a Malaysian. I wonder where they are at in the US of A?

I don't like mix khmer races because it would disgrace our ancestors!

I'm from Rhode Island and I went North Carolina to find a job at some chinese restaurant but the owner are Chinese people born in Cambodia! But when I saw her she ask me what asian race am I! Then when I said Cambodian she got excited! She was soo cute! It's like she never met a Cambodian! I on the other hand never met an Indonesian lolz! It goes both ways! I met a Micronesian working there also and it was my first time meeting one! He looks black though lolz!

actually indonesia have blasteran celebs too. they r half dutch and indo. i think any asian prefer light skin.

we have a great self esteem. we love ourselves & our neighbors. when there was typhoon & storm i express my sadness to all my asean neighbors. i have never called myself pacific islander, either. filipinos are asian... and they are austronesian malay. like any asian country... we also have lots of chinese.

There's a whole bunch in North Carolina! It feels kind of awkward meeting an Indonesian face to face lolz!

^^ Any asian prefer light skin! But we don't prefer European looks over our kind no matter if they are dark or light skin! We never put down our own race over another race that we don't even know about! Cambodians keep it Riel lolz!

you may be one of the few. most pinoys i know like to prefer themselves as pacific islanders. it's very sad

take some photos and post them! i wonder what american-indonesian look like......

^^ the ones that I met are straight from Indonesia! They speak good English though lolz! I never met a Americanize Indonesian! Very hard working people!

any country that was colonized by europe will have people of the higher castes & classes with a european ad mixture.


here are some indonesian stars with european admixtures.

Mark-Paul Gosselaar - Dutch Indonesian



Nadine Chandrawinata - German & Indonesian

Nora Aunor


Charo Ronquillo


Tetchie Agbayani


As far as I know, these ones aren't mixed.

nora & tetchie are grandmothers now. they arent famous anymore. but charo ronquillo tried to be famous in the philippines as a movie star but she was too tall & too dark. but she has done so much better for herself because now she's working in paris & new york as a vey famous model. she's done all the mjor fashion shows. thats because americans & europeans arent looking for filipino girls that looked mixed. they want filipino girls that look pure filipino.

^^ Yeah of course I know that but that doesn't mean you have to worship them! I never met a half french/khmer before and I don't want to meet one in the future, but there 's some out there but to us Cambodians we consider them a different race and people! The Filipinos adore white people like god regardless after the colonization!

^^ That girl looks like a pure pinay!

well, you are right. because your culture, religion, and history is more pure. you havent been invaded plenty of times. i really do agree with you indrataka.

i often joke that some filipinos have selective amnesia. they forget everything before he spanish invasion.

It's not about my history being pure but it's about having a strong mind and unity between your people! We Cambodians look at this political society as a game between Uncle Sam and his enemies! Nothing wrong with adopting spanish culture or American but you have to keep your identity intact also! Never think that other race are superior over you but think that what makes you are more important than anything else!What am trying to say is the colonization of the Spanish and Americans over the Philippines is just a political game! Your people should know that already and instead of being subordinate be more strong! It's just a game to play with your mind!

Also you need to stop preferring the mix Filipinos as mestizo because you guys are not native Americans! i don't know who gave you guys that name to refer to mix flips but it's actually a derogatory term to prefer to a mix race of Indigenous and spain descent to use to classify a class difference between the Spain and the Natives of South America!

Being a mestizo race in South America means that they have more opportunity in the colonization over Latin America because they are have spanish blood in them! Most Mestizo favor more towards their Spanish side over their indigenous side and took over most of the responsibility in the destruction of the culture and religion of the Indigenous and the Africans slaves! But no matter how much they try to destroy and wipe out the Indigenous religion they never succeed because religion is a incarnation of Culture! Just like the fillipinos! They adopt the spanish names and religion with them but they still kept their culture alive regardless if their religion changed because no matter how much one try to abolish ones religion they can't because it's in you!

if you observe most filipino celebs, their parents are also filipino. light skinned parents will always have light skinned children. thats just science. its not american influence because white ppl like to tan. asians dont. spanish culture has nothing to do with it either. if anything, the phenomena of very fair skin is east asian.

all over southeast asia the rage & style is korean dramas & the korean look. since they are lighter & have taller nose than southeast asians of course they will be followed as trendsetters.

colonization & assumptions of what you think of the philippines is to you, is just your opinion. and although i respect your opinion, i will have to disagree. if anything, most filipinos are more into east asian culture. nobody will agree with everybody 100% of the time. the concept of beauty of filipinos in america is gravely different than the concept of beauty in the philippines. if u have problems with filipinos you have met, it does not mean every filipino is like that. for me, i get along woth everybody. i give them respect because im genuinely intrested in all cultures, not just my own. in the end, we are all asians here & most importantly, we are all human beings.

rather than focusing on the negative aspects of certain nationalities, wouldnt it be better to find a common ground?



















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^^ you raise a good point there! I don't think just because your parents are light skin your children will turn light skin! Where did you get that from? I met a flip one time and the first question he ask me was " Are you Fillipino?" It's kind of a rude question to ask out of no where! But it seems like the flips have this kind of insecurity issue with themselves not all of them! This goes to almost everybody not just Asians in general!

I kind of agree with you. But at the same time, it's curious how Nora Aunor, a full blooded Filipino is one of the most successful actresses in Filipino cinema, if not THE most

In fact, Vilma Santos, a Chinese-mestiza, is her only worthy rival.

I kind of agree with you. But at the same time, it's curious how Nora Aunor, a full blooded Filipino is one of the most successful actresses in Filipino cinema, if not THE most

In fact, Vilma Santos, a Chinese-mestiza, is her only worthy rival.

^^ That's just one celebrity compare to how many mix Europeans in the fashion/actress industry! Most pinays out there would love to be in the industry because of the class distinction and color distinction they can't make it! The Phillipines use mix european/ pinay race because they think it will boost their economy in their point of perspective! You can deny it all you want but it's true!And it goes to other countries as well! It's wrong to use a race base on their hierarchy as a prime example of economic prosperity!

Yeah you're right, Nora Aunor is only one actress, but that's why my example is so powerful. It was this one actress, who lived in poverty, and sold water by the rail tracks, who rose among the ranks in the mestizo-dominated movie industry AND record industry, and has won countless international AND local awards. This is a feat unrivalled by any other Filipino actor/actress, bar one mestiza actress (which says something, considering how there are more mestiza actresses than full blooded ones!), which is Vilma Santos, who I mentioned previously. Noramania is another story.

If Filipinos did blindly worship the white race, Nora Aunor's successful career would have been non-existent. She was famous because she was someone we ordinary Filipinos can relate with more easily. I wish there were more actresses like her.

But by all means I agree that a lot of Filipinos admire Caucasian features more than their own, and I would like to see this change. I truly think we are making progress, because if you look at a lot of the movie stars in the 50s or 60s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL4LBpuCrqM) they look so much more Caucasian in comparison to these possibly 1/8 or 1/4 mixed actors that the Philippines has today. Also, we were colonized by Spain and the United States from 1565 until 1946! This means we have been colonized for 381 years, which is more than a quarter of a millenium and we have been a unified, independent state for less than 70 years! I figure that it's natural that there would be some remnants of cultural baggage from the colonial period. So give us time!

Historically, admixture has been an ever present and pervading phenomenon in the Philippines. The Philippines was originally settled by Australoid peoples called Negritos which now form the country's aboriginal community. Admixture occurred between this earlier group and the mainstream Malayo-Polynesian population.

There has been Indian migration and influence in the Philippines since the precolonial era. The impact of Indian civilization on the Philippines profoundly affected the culture of the Filipinos. About 25% of the words in the Tagalog language are Sanskrit terms and about 5% of the country's population possess Indian ancestry from antiquity. A considerable number of the population in the town of Cainta, Rizal, are descended from Indian soldiers who mutinied against the British Indian Army when the British briefly occupied the Philippines in 1762 to 1763. These Indian soldiers called Sepoy settled in town and intermarried with native females. The Sepoy ancestry of Cainta is very visible today, particularly in Barrio Dayap near Brgy. Sto Nino. Their unique physical characteristics make them distinct from the average Filipinos.

There has been a Chinese presence in the Philippines since the ninth century. However, Large-scale migrations of Chinese to the Philippines only started during the Spanish colonial era, when the world market was opened to the Philippines. It is estimated that among Filipinos, 10%-20% have some Chinese ancestry and 1.5% are "full-blooded" Chinese. According to the American anthropologist Dr. H. Otley Beyer, the ancestry of Filipinos is 2% Arab. This dates back to when Arab traders intermarried with the local Malay and Filipina female populations during the pre-Spanish history of the Philippines. Major Arab migration to the Philippines coincided with the spread of Islam in the region. Filipino-Muslim royal families from the Sultanate of Sulu and the Sultanate of Maguindanao claim Arab descent even going as far as claiming direct lineage from the prophet Muhammed. Such intermarriage mostly took place around the Mindanao island area, but the arrival of Spanish Conquistadors to the Philippines abruptly halted the spread of Islam further north into the Philippines. Intermarriage with Spanish people later became more prevalent after the Philippines was colonized by the Spanish Empire.

When the Spanish colonized the Philippines, a significant portion of the Filipino population mixed with the Spanish. When the United States took the Philippines from Spain during the Spanish-American War, much intermixing of Americans, both white and black, took place on the island of Luzon where the USA had a Naval Base and Air Force Base even after the USA gave the Philippines independence after World War II. The descendants of Filipinos and Europeans are today known as mestizos, following the term used in other former Spanish colonies. Much mixing with the Japanese also took place due to the war rapes of Filipina women during World War II. Today there is an increasing number of Japanese men marrying Filipina woman and fathering children by them whose family remain behind in the Philippines and are financially supported by their Japanese fathers who make regular visits to the Philippines. Today mixed-race marriages have a mixed reaction in the Philippines, most urban centers like Manila and Cebu are more willing to accept interracial marriages than rural areas, plus there is more approval if the Filipina marries out than a Filipino male.

http://www.colorq.org/MeltingPot/article.a...mp;x=ArabMalays

^^^ This was the same post that i made about the Mestizo race on my earlier post! I think you guys shouldn't call the mix Filipino with European race mestizo because it's a derogatory term use to separate the Indigenous, African slaves, and the Spanish as a class distinction base on the ideology of white supremacy over everything. It's mixture of Indigenous and Spanish which the kids favor more towards the white side in order to gain more opportunities during the colonial period of Latin America! This was the Spanish idea in order to control Latin America for a long time and since the mix Mestizo knows both languages it was easier for them to teach the Indigenous the Spanish culture and religion! That was the aim of the Spanish to wipe out the Indigenous religion and culture but it failed because religion is an incarnation of culture of whats makes who you are! By you Filipinos adopting the term Mestizo you are basically doing the same thing to your people! Differentiating the gap between the imperialist white supremacy over your own kind! Thats what I was trying to say in the first place! I don't know who gave you guys that terminology to use to represent a mix race of Pinays/pinoys but I find it a derogatory term!

This is what i mean! Regardless who gave the term to refer the mix flips as mestizo are trying to disintegrate the Filipino society as a whole! The same as can be said to the Natives! It's the connotations of the word Mestizo that makes everything looks as if it is a separate entity! Mixing is not a bad thing but when you think about the future there can be positive and negative sides to the country!

For me, mestizo doesn't really have any negative connotation, in fact it has an annoyingly glamourous connotation for most Filipinos. It's just another word for someone who's mixed in the Philippines.

To answer your question, it was the Spaniards who gave us that term. In fact, during the colonial period, we modern-day indigenous Filipinos were called "indios" not "Filipinos", and only white Spaniards who were born in the islands could be called "Filipinos". We have since reclaimed the term "Filipino", needless to say So the definition of what a Filipino is, is quite fluid. It could be you <3

Depends on your perspective but I find it derogatory! So if I call you a filipino because that's whats used to describe the people that were born there would that take away your indigenous pride out of you since the Indios are a term for the people that owns that land! The term Mestizo are used by the Spanish as a class differentiation since they are not Indigenous to that land their only natives to that land! It's way for them to control your people for a long time! They tried to mix in their race with yours and made a new race! Most importantly the new race would stick with their white side more during the colonial times and less with the indigenous side right! By mixing their race with your race the mix race can speak both languages and they can covert your religion and culture with the spanish. They use the mix race Mestizo to do the job for them. And still, now after the colonization, they still control your mind but not the land! But this time they left an image of how one should look like in order to be supreme! It's repeating itself again! But this time by your own people!

To me I wouldn't want people to call me Cambodian because it's a derogatory term used to refer to the Indigenous race of the Khmers! It makes me lose my identity and rights to be an indigenous race of that land! The term Cambodian was modified by the French first and then by the Americans many times! But it makes one think that they are not respecting us by what we refer to ourselves but it is for their own interest! Big difference bro! But if that is what you guys want to be call by foreigners than I can't stop you! But I would like people to know that Khmers are indigenous of south east asia and by that you feel more connected with your roots than following what other people have to say! This is what I mean! Got it!

querido... mabuti pa kung pabayaan mo sya. halatang galit sya sa mundo. mahihilo ka lang sa kaka explika mo sa kanya. kahit ano pa ang sabihin mo ay kontra ka nya agad. so... hwag ka na lang magrespond sa mga taong baliw.

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During the colonial times it's more of a class society than a color society! The Philippines have the Indios and the Negritos which are both Indigenous of that race! And guess who is in the middle of the circle! Yeah that's right the Mestizo! The Spanish used them to do the jobs! Even the Chinese who migrated and lived there aren't treated equal than the mestizo even if they have light skin! It's more of a privilege to be white during the colonial period in order to be treated with equal rights and more opportunities to find a good job! Everybody in the Philippines can be call a Filipino regardless of their ethnicity but the real indigenous people are the pure Indios and negritos. The surviving Indigenous people are actually the strongest race in the Philippines because they still kept their culture and religion throughout all that time! And you guys need to respect them!

Translation please lolz! It's good to criticize me because it makes me stronger and I can learn more!

basically i said let's stop arguing.

It's a good debate! That's what am here for!

well... ur good at it. coz ur winning this one.

now i feel the thread is no longer about pictures but just debating.

Yup, it's all about perspective. Mestizo is just a term for someone that's mixed, that's all. Class distinctions today aren't the way they were 300 years ago, but some of the vocabulary remains. So what? Why reinvent the wheel? Why create another term for someone that's mixed, if we have one already? It's like how the word negro/negra which refers to a black person carries no negative connotation in the Philippines, unlike here in North America. By calling me a Filipino, I certainly wouldn't be offended. If I were to be called something else other than Filipino, I would want to referred to as Tagalog-Ilonggo, but this creates divisions since there are so many ethnic groups in the Philippines. Filipino is a simple, catch-all term, and thus I prefer being referred to as such. For mixed bloods, pure bloods alike, I can guarantee that they consider themselves first and foremost Filipinos before they consider themselves mestizo or pure, respectively.

Filipino first, mestiza second:

(LOL, my mom thinks KC looks like a man. But I think she's cute!)

Also, our indifference to the word mestizo doesn't mean that we're completely ignorant about what is offensive and what is not. If we Filipinos thought that the word mestizo was a derogatory term, we would do something about it, like with the word "indios" which was replaced by "Filipino". The use of these two terms was a way to divide the peasants and the ruling class. When these "indios" like our revolutionaries started calling themselves Filipinos, it was like a big f-ck you to these white Filipino Spaniards. In my opinion it was the ultimate display of gaining equal footing with these oppressors!

In the past Filipino was an exclusive term, but now it is for everybody, thanks to our forefathers who didn't give up without a fight. It's slightly similar to how the word "queer" used to be a term of abuse towards gay people, but we have since reclaimed this abusive term into something positive.

I guess it's base on your perspective or other people's perspective! The term mestizo ain't like it used to be 300 years but it still carries a heavy influence on modern day Filipinos! I for one won't tolerate people calling me Cambodian because that's a foreigners term to use against the Indigenous Khmers and I'm sure the Native Americans wouldn't want to be call indians because Colombus thought he landed in India and gave the New World people the term Indians to describe the Indigenous! What am trying to say is this is what made us strong during the French colonial era because we know who we are and we kept our identity and culture intact! So did the Native Americans! But I guess it's different in every region!