http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...1910893,00.html

In the Mongolian capital Ulan Bator, "Shoot the Chinese" is spray-painted on a brick wall near a movie theater. A pair of swastikas and the words "Killer Boys ...! Danger!" can be read on a fence in an outlying neighborhood of yurt dwellings. Graffiti like this, which can be found all over the city, is the work of Mongolia's neo-Nazis, an admittedly implausible but often intimidating, and occasionally violent, movement.


Ulan Bator is home to three ultra-nationalist groups claiming a combined membership of several thousand — a not insignificant number in a country of just 3 million people. They have adopted Nazi paraphernalia and dogma, and are vehemently anti-Chinese. One group, Blue Mongolia, has admitted to shaving the heads of local women found sleeping with Chinese men. Its leader was convicted last year of murdering his daughter's Mongolian boyfriend, who had merely studied in China. See pictures of race riots continue in China's far west.

The neo-Nazis may be on society's fringe, but they represent the extreme of a very real current of nationalism. Sandwiched between Russia and China, with foreign powers clamoring for a slice of the country's vast mineral riches, many Mongolians fear economic and ethnic colonization. This has prompted displays of hostility toward outsiders and slowed crucial foreign-investment negotiations.

Fifty-year-old Zagas Erdenebileg is the leader of Dayar Mongol (All Mongolia), the most prominent of the neo-Nazi groups. "If our blood mixes with foreigners', we'll be destroyed immediately," says Erdenebileg, who has run unsuccessfully for parliament four times. He loathes the Chinese — whom he accuses of involvement in prostitution and drug-trafficking — and reveres Genghis Khan, who he says influenced Adolf Hitler. I ask him if he considers his adoption of the beliefs of a regime that singled out and executed people with Mongol features from among Soviet prisoners of war to be in any way ironic. "It doesn't matter," he shrugs. "We share the same policies."

If Erdenebileg is the elder statesman of Mongolia's neo-Nazis, Shari Mungun-Erdene, the 23-year-old leader of the roughly 200-strong Mongolian National Union (MNU), is the new kid on the block and sports a swastika tattoo on his chest. The MNU takes vigilante action against law-breaking outsiders, Mungun-Erdene says, mainly Chinese. When I ask what kind of action, he replies, "Whatever it takes so that they don't live here." At other times, though, he comes across as an overzealous adolescent. He opens his laptop to show photos of his neo-Nazi buddies. But beside the folders entitled "Guns" and "Skinheads" are others with names like "My Car" and "Mom in Japan."

Dagva Enkhtsetseg, program manager for the Open Society Forum, an Ulan Bator – based organization that promotes public participation in civic life, points out that the neo-Nazis don't enjoy broad support. A graduate in Mongolian nationalism, she argues that hard-line nationalism's allure is subsiding as more young Mongolians are exposed to globalization or study abroad. That was evident during the presidential election in May, when bogus accusations that Democratic Party leader and eventual winner Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj was part Chinese fell on deaf ears. "In the past that would have worked," Enkhtsetseg says.

The neo-Nazis still pose some threats, however. In May, a newsletter of the international development charity Voluntary Service Overseas reported allegations that two Peace Corps volunteers were "severely beaten" outside a pub after a confrontation with Dayar Mongol members. (Erdenebileg denies his group's involvement.) One 25-year-old American living in Ulan Bator, who didn't wish to be named, said he was accosted by neo-Nazis at a nightclub for cavorting with a Mongolian woman. "After they showed a swastika, my initial thought was, This isn't going to be a normal fight," he says. "They wanted to send a message." That message, delivered by spray paint or fists, translates to "get out."

Only thing i can say is.....EIN VOLK EIN REICH EIN FUHRER!!!! SEIG HEIL!!! *Clacks heels, salutes the MYA*

Mongolia for Mongolians

Danke

Handehoh Xuixia! chinazin es verboten! sigh.. I can't believe people are still posting this outdated article I remember most of it was a joke by some journalism student, murder? LoL for studying China that is hilarious and I am fascinated about where they got their story. Even more so since Time a seemingly reputable new site copied the most laughable selection into their story. salut!

EIN VOLK EIN REICH EIN FUHRER!!!! SEIG HEIL!!!

*Rides in a car, holding one arm out.*

achtuuuung! *Salutes* n


EDTno comment war lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUOSxgB4pUI

Lol ja zher gut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N3-b0swVjw

Ahahahahaha

Someone should post this on white nationalist forums and see what they think.

White....nationalist? lol

Wow, mongol neo-nazi? are you sure this news is not reporting something happened in some parrellel universe but not this universe?

Well, jokes aside, to be fair, some news also reports there are some taiwanese groups are also call themselves nazi.

I can only say the asian nazi, just like their russian and jew counterparts (i read some news, and yes, there are even some jewish nazi, no matter how weird it sounds like), hopeless retards always make me feel quite embarrassing, you know, you can be a nationalist, but dont try to be a nationalist by being nazi wannabe, its only show your inferiority complex and make you nothing more than an entertaining laughing stock in the world.

Come on even if you have nothing to be proud of about your own tiny country, still dont be so desperate to act like a pathetic joke by acting like a pity nazi-wannabe.

And being an asian, reading news about asian "nazi"s are such as embarrasment to me.

You've already read about this before, ME. And you acted surprised on that account too. lol

You have posted it here before? show me the link? I dont really remeber I have read there are mongol nazi wannabes as well

I only remeber I read some news in k-chat or taiwan chat claiming there are some nazi-wannabes there?

Well maybe I have forgot it already, can not blame me if this is the case since few will take such news seriously

I'm not searching through 30,000 myempire accounts to find that.

Were you guys could have some balls and brains to debate instead of keep reporting me like there were no tommorrow...

OH LAWWWDD

On the contrary, I've never reported you.

Though I'd look pretty damned bad @$$ in a heinrich himmler uniform. The frauleins wouldn't keep off of me.

"hatred and the spirit of sacrifice . . . are nourished by the image of enslaved ancestors rather than that of liberated grandchildren." ~ Walter Benjamin

I would agree with that quote, but on both sides, so no need for pretending innocent.

Haha, yeah, that was a really stupid comment

Ja ja was ist los schesse ?

hahahaha this is funny. i'm sure if those wannabe nazi's went to germany or russia they'd get their @$$ kicked with "zipperhead" written on their foreheads.

Hitler was big fan of Genghis Khan

They're just dumb children who probably care more about the fashion aspects of neo-Nazi and skinhead culture. They're poseurs.

You gotta admit, the Nazis did awesome things with khaki fabric.

hahaha that's so true! I've never been a fan of khaki's but I do love what nazi's did for the riding boots and charlie chaplin 'stache. i think hitler was the first person with emo hair too.

Why does Iluvlamp post in this chat?

haha just bc you don't like me doesn't mean I don't have a right to post here. Maybe you should talk to ben about only letting people you approve of on mongolian chat?

Well, it's not exactly as if you actually add to any conversation in this chat. All I've ever seen you post is insults, ignorance, stupidity. Why not put some thought into something when you post in here. Oh wait, that's not included into your routine of spreading chinese nationalism.

haha i'm not a nationalist. You just assume everyone who disagrees with you is. Assuming things based on superficial observations is true ignorance. You have no problem with someone posting a gap picture of hitler and yet you target me for being "insulting, ignorant, and stupid". hmm.....maybe you can enlighten everyone with your cute little nazi german quips?

It's called humor, yet again a wonderful display of ignorance. I applaud you.

obviously anything that isn't in german relating to himmler is not funny to you. Understandable for someone with such closed-mindedness. I was joking when I said hitler had a emo haircut and you go ahead and make a serious comment about how I "add nothing to the conversation" and insulting me. Is it me or you who has no humor?

I don't give a damn about that what you've posted. The point is you didn't even speak about the topic. (As seems to be your typical habit in this chat.) Thanks for the again, wonderful display of ignorance. Since my last post the entire point was adding to the actual topic.

you "don't give a dam about what I've posted" and yet "I didn't even speak about the topic"? How does that make sense? Obviously you DO give a damn to comment everytime I make a post even though I wasn't talking to you.

Damn, you're as daft as they come. YOU stated what you were posting (As in your so called humor that no one else was laughing at Except for yourself. And maybe someone like myempire.) And I just replied I didn't care about that exact post. I guess I have to spell it out for you. What you were talking about wasn't on topic. And I wouldn't mind a joke (No matter how bad.) but you don't even stay on the actual topic. But I'm guessing a chinese nationalist jumped in so you feel you have to follow suit.

haha how was I not staying on topic? Hitler relates to nazi's. Why aren't you bashing samnang for bringing it up? Perhaps it's your bias against me for some reason. If I'm a nationalist, then you're a nazi (but I wouldn't be surprised).

"I'm guessing a chinese nationalist jumped in so you feel you have to follow suit." - haha there you go again accusing others of being chinese nationalists. Living your life in fear of chinese nationalists is unhealthy. You should really get out once in a while....

Funny, seems you conveniently show up whenever one does post, and when they post something insulting to myself and other mongolian posters here. The only time you do post is to say you agree, and not much else. And if I were an MYA, you'd have already been on a train. Living to think you're superior to everyone else is living delusions of grandeur, you should get out once in a while. Hitler has nothing really to do with the MYA, mya is mongol, hitler is german. lol

haha how was that person insulting you that I was agreeing with? Unless you are really sensitive about khaki's or nazi's. hmm....why would a supposed "mongolian" person be insulted by that picture. It doesn't make sense. But I doubt there are many english speaking mongolians that frequent this site.

How am I living like I'm superior to everyone else? Give me an example or anything I've said about being "superior".

Hitler has nothing to do with MYA? This thread is about neonazism in mongolia. Hitler was the leader of the nazis. How is that not related? You making a fuss over nothing it seems like. BUCK UP.

Lol I never said I was insulted by the picture, the picture isn't even in the damn point. Listen for once. This is NOT about the damned picture. (God damn, how many times do I have to explain this to you?), what I'm saying is you have nothing to say in here about any sort of damned topic unless it's something another chinese poster has said. That you usually happen to agree with (which is usually some sort of insult to us, and no I'm not fu-king talking about the picture already, idiot.)

calm down! don't get your panties in a twist....Nobody said anything insulting to you (that's only your imagination), unless you can give me the quote where I actually insulted you on this topic - otherwise your insulting attack on me is completely unwarranted and very strange.

Btw, How do you know that member is chinese? Did they tell you that? Did they say they were chinese? Assumptions are dangerous and shows ignorance.

Another thread, but that was pretty insulting, and had nothing to do with the topic.

haha the best you can come up with is from ANOTHER thread? Wow, you're really grasping for hairs trying to find ways to hate on me. I didn't even say anything insulting to begin with. You're just overly sensitive and I think you thrive on conflict. It's rather funny actually. I can see why you have so many enemies.

Nope, actually I've been pretty in line with my argument. You go off topic, just to insult us with your own delusions of grandeur. Perhaps something like that wasn't insulting to you, but maybe it is to others. Lol So many enemies? Hmm, my only "enemies" are the nationalists that think much like yourself. And it's people like you who worry about the opinions of other groups, and do everything you can to argue about them. Yet you don't see anyone from this mongol chat going into your chinese chat just to up our own image desperately, mainly because we don't care. But obviously the nationalists such as yourself do, which I guess I should be flattered.

wow, the only one with "delusions of grandeur" is you for thinking everyone who disagrees is a nationalist. Again, I ask you if you even know if those people are chinese? You just assume they are based on their opinion which contradicts yours. For the millionth time, I am not a nationalist but if you get some sick pleasure out of thinking I am then by all means....

I don't pay attention to who is mongolian and who isn't on C-chat, in fact I rarely go there bc all the talk about is economics.

The fact that you cannot back up your words or even give me a decent example of my "delusions of grandeur" or "insults" shows what kind of person you are.

I only speak for myself, not for all chinese people.

Now, would you like to actually discuss the topic instead of attacking me for stuff I said in other threads? hmm....seems like you are the one who goes off-topic.

Why would they go to Germany or Russia when they're being Nationalists in their homeland?

Disagreement is one thing, being condescending, disrespectful and generally being racist, and believing your ethnicity is superior yourself would constitute a nationalist, don't you think? Oh, and I've already stated what I feel about this topic when it has been posted two/three times before. No need to continue to repeating myself on it. Might as well make myself and other laugh by making fun of the entire topic.

bc germany is where nazi's originally came from and russia is known for having a huge growth in neonazi's who target mongolians (it's also bordering mongolia).

Actually, National Socialism existed in the US even before Hitler. It's not entirely related to Hitler. nationalism itself has always existed.



They target foreigners. Of course, it's their country. Mongolian Nazis are targeting foreigners as well.