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me4tw
You're right, and he was voted in twice in a row...

But what you need to remember is that in democracies, what usually happens is that people do NOT vote IN anyone, but rather vote OUT (or vote to KEEP OUT) the "other one". They would rather have a fool that doesn't do much of anything for his term (so that he can't do much harm) than some revolutionary idiot who will turn their world upside down and bring civilization to it's knees. It's the lesser of evils idea, but in the end that is just too stupid.

And when they both ultimately serve the same lobyists, well it is all just a sick game really... I wonder how much longer this can possibly last? I wouldn't be surprised if I see BIG change in my lifetime.
delgrodel
QUOTE (JeremyFuhenstaser @ Aug 7 2009, 08:59 AM) *

He's amusing? I think that's a pretty good reason. It's the same reason I voted for the Termina-, I mean, GOVERNATOR!
mikekk86
QUOTE (me4tw @ Aug 7 2009, 11:22 PM) *
You're right, and he was voted in twice in a row...

Bush always dodges things in twos.

delgrodel
QUOTE (mikekk86 @ Aug 12 2009, 10:11 PM) *
Bush always dodges things in twos.


He must be an extraordinary man to have such reflexes.
mikekk86
He does make up for other things he lacks. For one, he's a pretty funny guy---but I don't really need my president to be a joke.
gambit
QUOTE (me4tw @ Aug 7 2009, 11:22 PM) *
You're right, and he was voted in twice in a row...

But what you need to remember is that in democracies, what usually happens is that people do NOT vote IN anyone, but rather vote OUT (or vote to KEEP OUT) the "other one". They would rather have a fool that doesn't do much of anything for his term (so that he can't do much harm) than some revolutionary idiot who will turn their world upside down and bring civilization to it's knees. It's the lesser of evils idea, but in the end that is just too stupid.

And when they both ultimately serve the same lobyists, well it is all just a sick game really... I wonder how much longer this can possibly last? I wouldn't be surprised if I see BIG change in my lifetime.

At least functional democracies have the option regardless of one's perspective in 'keeping' or 'removing' the other one. It is funny to read those who live under dictatorial regimes where the people have no choices at all criticize US for our choices of leaders.

Now...Before others begin to extol the supposedly 'better' democracies of Europe, their various executions of proportional representations have their own flaws and violate to some degrees basic democratic principles. Take the rotating presidency of the Swiss, for example, and I am willing to bet the most here do not know that the Swiss rotate their President, the office is NOT popularly elected but rotate among the leaders representing the various cantons, equal to states or provinces. The result is that astute and observant Swiss acknowledged that at any time, their President can take the subway to work and 9 out 10 of his fellow passengers would not recognize him. Is that good or bad in terms of adhering to democratic principles?

Ultimately, in a functional democracy, some groups are going to be and feel slighted because their candidate, and therefore their politics, was somehow prevented from the offices, low or high. That is the price the people admitted they are willing to pay. At least with functional democracies, we have regular regime changes, even if the Swiss may not recognize his President as they stand next to each other in the subway but both recognize who is Bush and who is Obama.
avisitor
Cuz it is called politics and the political machines run everything???? eek.gif
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