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Suzuka00
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Igorot Beggars: The Skeletons in Our Open Closet

Photo used with permission. Photo © Dennis S. Rito

Even though this blog mostly focuses on our achievements, it is also not blind to our failings as a people. I'm sure you will agree that probably the most visible sign that we have failed somewhere is the presence of Igorot elderly beggars in Manila.

As a Manila-based Igorot blogger, I've long wanted to do a post on this issue but kept putting it off mainly because I wanted to really compose my thoughts on the matter. However, after receiving an email from Dennis Rito (you should visit his blog here) about an Igorot beggar, I decided to just go ahead with this post. Maybe it is better if we collectively think about this problem.

First, here's Dennis' letter:
I am writing a caption for my photoblog concerning the photo I took of an Igorot beggar recently. I want to give justice to the photo and wish to ask what prompted elderly Igorots to beg in the city? Is this a usual occurrence in Baguio City and in their villages as well? What is the view of their fellow Igorots regarding this phenomenon (mendicancy)?
And this is how I replied (inedit ko ulit hehe):
Good questions. These are questions that we Igorots are asking ourselves. I'm not quite sure whether we found the answer as to why elderly Igorots are begging in Manila. Truth be told, hindi naman talaga sila naghihirap (compared to the Tagalog beggars) so I don't know why they are doing it. And no, begging is not something that they do in their own villages back home but some are also begging in Baguio.

The view of their fellow Igorots? I can't say categorically. Some are angry at these beggars for creating a bad image for Igorots. Some would just shrug it off. I'm not quite sure if any Igorot would be sympathetic to the beggars. Okay siguro if they really had to beg dahil walang-wala sila. Pero hindi naman sila walang-wala.
So shall we do an analysis of this begging business? Why do some of our elders beg? Are they doing it because they are poor? Because they are too lazy? Because they have nothing better to do? Because it is lucrative?

How should we deal with this matter? Ignore it? Conduct a shame campaign, i.e., shout at them with our nostrils flaring, "Omibabain ka nga, agawid ka ketdin!"? Round up the mendicants and send them home? Jail them? Baby them? Appeal to their conscience?

What is the cost of this phenomenon to the collective Igorot psyche? Can we afford to ignore this problem? [As Michael Tan noted here, the Igorot stereotype is changing from the fierce warrior to the urban beggar.]

Who should lead in looking for a solution? The local governments? The church? Us? The beggars' families? Gloria Arroyo? [Maybe Pagano can do a psychoanalysis of the Igorot beggar in the same way that he psychoanalyzed Gloria?]

Many questions, ano. I'm sure you have bright ideas which you'd like to share para mahanap natin ang mga sagot. Incidentally, most of the beggars come from my hometown (Sagada) so this issue really hits home. [Nope, no one from my own home, i..e, family/clan, is in this begging business.

http://www.igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igoro...129537731609548
salamat
I feel like civilizing these savages
Suzuka00
QUOTE (salamat @ Aug 16 2009, 05:14 PM) *
I feel like civilizing these savages

Some Visayans act like igorots too like the Ratagnon and Kalagan,but the Ratagnon got extinct.
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philfighter
QUOTE (salamat @ Aug 17 2009, 06:14 AM) *
I feel like civilizing these savages



Ah, typical white man mentality...savages? Or oppressed? One thing's sure, you, an American, do not the meaning of being a Filipino as you do not care for your brethren, the Igorots.

QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Aug 17 2009, 07:22 AM) *
Some Visayans act like igorots too like the Ratagnon and Kalagan,but the Ratagnon got extinct.
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=btn
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=kqe


Shows how we can just classify people into their "genus"...sad
silangan
Do you guys give to beggars? I don't. Giving is not helping on this matter. You're actually ruining them and make them multiply.

Suzuka, I grew up among Kalagans. But we moved. I used to speak their language as a young boy but forgot a lot.

They are a good example of what Muslims should be. I missed their company. I still think about them and my childhood friends.


salamat
QUOTE (Suzuka00 @ Aug 16 2009, 06:22 PM) *
Some Visayans act like igorots too like the Ratagnon and Kalagan,but the Ratagnon got extinct.
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=btn
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=kqe


sorry Im kinaray-a...descended from one of the 10 Datus who sailed from Borneo
Suzuka00
QUOTE (philfighter @ Aug 16 2009, 08:29 PM) *
Ah, typical white man mentality...savages? Or oppressed? One thing's sure, you, an American, do not the meaning of being a Filipino as you do not care for your brethren, the Igorots.



Shows how we can just classify people into their "genus"...sad

Cantonese is a genus actually like visayan,the individual tribes such as toishanese and yue,Cantonese are Chinese

QUOTE (silangan @ Aug 16 2009, 10:16 PM) *
Do you guys give to beggars? I don't. Giving is not helping on this matter. You're actually ruining them and make them multiply.

Suzuka, I grew up among Kalagans. But we moved. I used to speak their language as a young boy but forgot a lot.

They are a good example of what Muslims should be. I missed their company. I still think about them and my childhood friends.



QUOTE (salamat @ Aug 16 2009, 11:10 PM) *
sorry Im kinaray-a...descended from one of the 10 Datus who sailed from Borneo


Kalagans,dinabaw and tausugs are closely related to bisaya too and maybe descendants of the 10 datus.....


flipcombatmedic
Only Igorots? When I was in metro manila there were Ita and Ifugao beggars. I felt sorry for them, but then how can poor people give money to other poor people?
philfighter
QUOTE (salamat @ Aug 17 2009, 12:10 PM) *
sorry Im kinaray-a...descended from one of the 10 Datus who sailed from Borneo


As an Ilonggo, I think I'm in a better position to say that this "historical fact" has now been considered more of a retelling.

Teh kamaan ka gali kang Karay-a?
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