I constantly read hateful comments about asians bashing fellow asians. I wonder if europeans have the same problems. For example, japanese diss koreans who diss chinese who diss viet who diss laos who diss thai, etc....

Are southern europeans considered dirty and unnattractive to northern europeans? Do northern europeans look down on western/southern europeans? Do western europeans look down on eastern europeans? Are greek and spanish considered the lowest?

I didn't know Koreans diss Chinese, thought it was the other way around lol

Judging by all the trolls and anti-chinese threads in kchat, I'd say they diss each other....

in Europe the following diss each other:

-English and Irish
-French and English
-French and Belgians
-Belgians and Dutch
-Belgians between each other (North vs. South)

but I don't really know about the other parts

anyway there's a part of truth about the cleanliness, in general the French are not considered as very hygienic

The French have a saying that Africa starts at there Southern border. The Iberian Peninsula with Spain and Portugal is at there southern border.

Also, the Catalans and Spanish diss each other.
Flemish (North) and the Walloon (South) people of belgium diss each other.

Many European countries aren't homogeneous, they're heavily multicultural like the U.S.

Unique European identities don't really stand out anymore. You're not an Englishmen or a Frenchmen, you're just white.

That's true. European countries being in such close proximity of each other, have people coming and going across borders all the time. Due to unrestrictive intraeuropean laws. And they have all come under the EU after realizing that they have to work with each other to have any global influence. It has kind of lead to a pan European identity. Plus most of these European countries have things like the Euro cup or Eurovision where cultural exchange is pretty common. Not to mention, countries like Australia and New Zealand have things like the Bledisloe which serves to strengthen ties. Asian countries are separated by seas and oceans and East Asia is just so different to South East Asia.

Irish PRIDE!!!
I have family in Ireland.

My white friend who is Irish/English hate Russian and Slavic people.
I don't know why.

My white friend who is Irish/English hate Russian and Slavic people.
I don't know why.

And he's American?

Maybe with the exception of Croatians and Serbians.

Why would the Greeks be considered the lowest? LOL, Greece is the birthplace of western civillization.

China was the greatest of Eastern civilizations, doesn't stop nationalists from country X & Y from looking down on us.

Eastern Europeans are looked down upon by the most in our parts. People from Poland, Slovakia, Romania etc..

I guess because they are darker and closer to africa than other european countries....I know some germans who think poles are dirty, stupid, and moral-less.

uh, no they don't. first, they don't have a problem from the foundation up of a group or subculture of whites who think less of being white significantly in looks, attitudes or what they are. they don't go around worshipping other people and have a much stronger ego(of course their are ugly side effects or negativity associated with this also) they are also the ones to have most racially based political groups than any other race where they represent people of their race across the globe.

no, they are different.

- Sweden and Finland
- Italy and Romania
- Germany and Poland

It's often about countries who share a border.
And everybody let the Germans know that they started the War, but more as joke.

Eastern Europe is not as rich as Western Europe, but since they also join the EU a lot people come to work in the West. Some blame them for bringing crime, but i think it's not that bad.

The countries with the worst reputations are Bulgaria and Romania, they are considerd with much crime, corruption and very poor.

Nah, no one dislikes the Greek (except the Turkish). Greek and Spain are warmer countries (because they're close to Africa), and their geographic location and exotic culture make them attractive for other Europeans. Besides, you seem to have forgotten the fact that people with lighter skin like golden brown skin.

^A Bulgarian on-line once told me the Greeks like the English and Americans. But when it comes to Bulgarians it is another story. Seems some Greeks do not treat well there other Balkan neighbors like the Albanians and Macedonians.

The EU nations are famous for their indifference towards each other, none more so than Britain which has always tended to be the last to conform to Brussels.

Well, here in Norway Balkan is considered to be a lot more related to Eastern Europe than the Southern Europe. And I also know a couple of Greeks who don't consider Greece to be a part of Balkan, and claim to have a totally different culture than in other Balkan countries like Macedona, Albania, Serbia and Bulgaria. There has also been in a lot of migration from the Slavic countries to the rest of Balkan, which once again sort of explains why people consider most of Balkan to be closer Eastern Europe than Southern Europe, sort of the case with people thinking SEA is closer to East Asia.

^I do know the Bulgarians even though they follow Bulgarian Slavic culture they say only 15% today are genetically slavic while 47% are Thracian.

And Albanians are not Slavic. Chimeria is a region just South of Albania that was majority Albanians. After WW I the Allies gave most of this region to the Greeks. The Greeks then brought in Greeks that were in living in Turkey and settled them there. While those of Albania culture that were living there were sent to Turkey. There properties were confiscated. Then after WW II the Greeks forced the majority Albanians in Chimeria to Albania. There properties were again confiscated. Even Albanians, they are called Chams in Chimeria, that helped the Greeks during WW II were forced out.

Some info.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameria

Edit: The Greeks are included has being in the Balkans. It also seems in order not to use the word Balkans many are calling that region Southeastern Europe.

First of all I'm not Albanian, so I wouldn't know much. I do hoewever know a lot of Albanians, and just the other day I had a conversation on this with my colleague (also Albanian). My colleague is extremely nationalistic, but he also claimed that Albanians don't consider themselves to be all that closely related to the Greeks now. He said that they shared ancient ties, but now they have completely different cultures. According to my colleague Albanians have a lot more cultural similarities with Eastern Europe, which consists of other ethnic groups than Slavs as well.

Balkan is simply the name of the peninsula. People from that area (people I have met), simply refer to it as Balkan and talk about a common Balkan culture. Balkan is used to refer to Albania, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Kosovo (and sometimes Bosnia); all of these refer to having a similar Balkan culture. But none of the countries I mentioned ever remotely mention having similarities with the Greeks or Turks.

By the way thanks for the insight in Albanian history, a lot of things I didn't know.

I think no but if there is a war in whole of europe , i would support russia and hope they dominate the whole of europe excluding some countries in the caucas kazhakstan and kyzgystan

I am sorry, but this deserves a crude response - have you been living under a rock for the past few years?

Does the Balkans conflict, Northern Ireland, Basque-Spain conflict, or The Russian invasion of Georgia and yes World War 1 and 2 ring any bell??

If you know those following events, then you already know the answer to your question, unless you are implying that China's state media or any other Asian media does not report a word on these events.

From what I hear, the French, English and Italians diss each other all the time. No Europeans will diss the Germans though

The following European rivalries come to mind...

-Western Europeans vs. Eastern Europeans
-Northern Europeans vs. Southern Europeans
-English vs. Scottish
-English vs. Irish
-British vs. French
-Mainlaind Italians vs. Sicilians
-Turks vs. Greeks
-Turks vs. Armenians
-Bosnians vs. Serbs

...And so on.

In Answer the OP.... Oh hell, yeah!

Let's see who might have been left off the growing list......

American vs everyone on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean
Castillian Spaniards vs the rest of Spain
Welsh vs English
Northern Ireland vs the rest of Ireland
English speaking Canadians vs. French Canadians
Cajuns (historically French Canadians in southern U.S.) vs. other Americans
Serious infighting and disparagement between any two of the states in the U.S.

The list is endless. All you have to do is find a slight language variation or poltical border and you have western people fighting themselves.

Brits and Polacks.

the OP is wrong. viets do not hate laos nor have any relations with them. we viets have long relations with china and a lot of us vietnamese hate chinese. a lot of chinese hates viets because they think viets steal their culture or claim to be related to chinese. a lot of vietnamese hate chinese because china invaded vietnam and forced the vietnamese to assimilate into chinese culture.

especially Poland and Russia. Kind of reminds me of the whole China vs Korea thing going on here

Hate or distrust ?
There's a difference ya know.
Different cultural aspects and certain events in history could play a role in leading to disparity of 2 different ethnic groups, not much of blind racism.
It would be like the Japanese slaughtered Singaporean Chinese during WW2, but would i hate them? Nah.

Actually, they will!

really? not at least from my experience

The Brit's do it to the Germans all the time.

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Most of them hate their neighbours. e.g Brits hate the French, who hate Germans, who hate the French and so on. Greeks hate Bulgarians and the Turks, Poles hate the Germans etc.

However since they have already had two world wars and numerous other wars on that issue and since they have also reached higher levels of prosperity and education than Asians, they now try to do politics against each other instead of wars. e.g. they have a lot of Xenophobia against their fellow neighbours.

nobody hates Germans except some Turkeys.

Also a there's maybe a little growing trend of distrust towards the eastern-European countries specially Russia, all ex-Communist states and now probably seen as crime hideout lol.

The 'dissing' between European nations is on a completely different level compared to that between Asian nations, probably as a result of European integration and the cathartic resolution of WWII (Germany defeated, occupied but not completely humiliated like after WWI). A Brit will make jokes about the French smelling bad or something like that, while Chinese and Japanese will argue bitterly over the rape of Nanking. It's just not comparable. I remember a Japanese guy in my class used to make remarks about the Chinese being 'cockroaches'. At first I thought he was joking, but he just kept saying it. This type of terminology and deep-seated hatred is almost unthinkable in a European context.

The exceptions are, as some have stated, ongoing ethnic and religious conflicts (Northern Ireland, the Basques, Flemings vs. Walloons in Belgium etc.) but these are mostly internal affairs. Real tension between the major cultural blocs (France, Germany, the UK, Spain etc.) is almost non-existent. In fact, they are closely allied through a number of important organizations, the most important one being the EU, effectively meaning that all citizens of the aforementioned states are members of the same European superstate. In my opinion, despite their differences, Europeans have achieved much more unity than Asians. You can find many examples on this very board; I was shocked by the many bitter disputes between Chinese and Koreans, Koreans and Japanese, Mongolians and Chinese, Thai and Laotians, Vietnamese and Chinese etc. There still seem to be too much skeletons in the closet for true integration to occur.
However, in the particular case of China, we can note that this country (despite its own internal conflicts) has more people than the entire continent of Europe and its growing power means that it may not even need to form an alliance with other Asian countries in the battle for global economic and cultural hegemony. Only time will tell.

Of course, this is coming from a European-American perspective, so feel free to correct me.

To me, malicious comments made between Asians and Europeans are somewhat similar reading their comments from youtube but Asians are a bit more aggressive in a context that they don't act out.

But Whites are known to keep their racist thoughts to themselves so they act violently instead when the opportunity is given.

A couple years ago, a British child was attacked by Scottish man because he was wearing an opposing soccer team's t-shirt. He called him names too.

Europeans have killed each others for centuries, even more wider and massive scale than Asians. They are the cause of Imperialism and results of 2 World Wars. East European countries still sh*t on each other still, killing, having war over and over again - Georgia's aggression on Russia most recent one I can think of. But there are wars going on right now that Media doesn't even mention around the world.

But luckily their population is dying out. Merry Christmas.

Wonderful. Ending a bullsh*t post with a pleasant genocidal note. Some people truly are a waste of oxygen. Wish you would die out.

Declining White population is true. No one is inflicting it than yourselves. If you don't like it, go and make more white babies like Mel Gibson has suggested. I could careless. I can only hope that WW3 won't be caused by another White people's greed. Leave Middle Eastern people in peace or we'll all die for oil. The world will be a better place without a cancerous race.

Wishing me a death over an argument is another example of your people's violent nature. What's more scary is that as I mentioned in a previous post, you'll likely to act out on it. Typical is all I can say.

I get the whole trying to offend me and that you hate crackaz and all, but it just doesn't make sense. White people are much less involved in acts of random violence than most other races, and Europeans get along much better with other Europeans than Asians do among themselves. These are pretty much verifiable facts, regardless of your tired little Malcolm X act.

Anyway, where do you live and what is your race? I hope you're not a hypocrite who lives in the West, and your crappy English seems to corroborate this ("He is the wishing a death onto me!"), but sadly chances are that you do live there - most likely America. And this is even beside the fact that the 'cancerous race' has given you the internet you are using, as well as almost literally everything that separates your lifestyle from that of your 16th century ancestors. Of course the 'kill whitey' types are not exactly known for their consistency, let alone intelligence.

So give me some material here. Tell me about yourself. I'm going to enjoy this.

Was I trying to offend you? By all means, I could careless about you. Maybe you think too highly of yourself.

I gave my perspective on things that related to this topic. I was providing with examples and facts about White race yet all you did was personally attack me. If you have a problem with your own worthless history, you should examine yourself first.

By means of generalizing, you are guilty yourself.



You are probably a White ESL teacher molesting a little child in Asia. It's a common fact why you are here obsessing about Asians and belittle others who don't agree with you. I see that you think your White race has provided Asians with "internet and electricity" but I'm sure you have done nothing to attribute that. Many different culture and race has built this nation or "West" you prefer as you pretentiously boast and your White race alone can't claim that copyright from others, including Asians and different minorities sacrificed themselves as equally as much. It tells so much about yourself by reading your post. You are so full of it that you can't even tell your @ss from your "intelligence." You are a dying race as far as I can tell.

And again, if you have a reading comprehension problem, let me clarify. I was talking about declining White population, not about genocide. I did not wish upon a death on anyone. You did.



Ah, so this is what my post ticked you about. You said you are an European-American. I'm sure you have no clue where you came from and without a real identity then knowing that you are just another White person claims to own internet and electricity. I applaud you for being an idiot of the day. Al Gore claim to invent the internet too. You guys must be close friends.

I've been here since '05. I've dealt with likes of you too many times. I'm not impressed at all.

So, basically, what you're blaming me for is that you think I want to take credit for what my ancestors or fellow whites have accomplished - funny, I seem to recall something about whites being 'the cancerous race', that they were so 'violent' and evil. What's it going to be, asshat? Is it okay to blame whites as a whole for their 'evilness', current and past, but not okay for a white person to take credit for his race's history and accomplishments? You can't have it both ways.
I would not be saying anything about electricity, cars, the internet, the printing press etc. (which I have indeed contributed nothing to) if not to point out your goddamn hypocrisy. You are the one who started about whites that, whites that, not me.

Oh, and of course calling me a child molester does not count as a 'personal attack'. Jesus, you're full of it. Accusing me of being a racist, of 'attacking' you, and then flinging racist horse crap and insults at me all the time.
No, I don't live in Asia and I'm not an ESL teacher, whatever that is. I barely know any Asians and I don't feel about them in any particularly positive or negative way - other than a mild admiration for certain aspects of certain East Asian cultures. However, and even though it seems hard for you to comprehend, I will respond to racist and hateful nonsense. Not because it's racist and hateful (anti-white racism is pretty much par for the course), but because it's nonsense. Your reasoning is flawed, your facts are flawed or at least completely distorted and you're such a huge hypocrite that I'm surprised your brain hasn't spontaneously exploded yet.



That's great, but you still haven't answered my questions, now have you? Where do you live, and what's your race? I'm sure there are some interesting things we can say about your nation's history (and who knows, maybe its demographic future), as well as your current choice of residence.

to be honest i know of these small disagreements but for them to form European Union, it takes it to a complete different level than our east asia union

Lol. I'm trying to take your post serious but you are just too funny. When your hypocrisy was fully exposed, you think I'm the one who is a hypocrite. You don't want to take any parts in Whites' shameful history and atrocities in the past and today, but you were the one quick to claim inventing the internet and Whites' achievements. So, no, genius, if you aren't going to man up to your race's heinous crimes and history, then you can't take the achievements of your race either. Which other race do you see going around like a cancer and messes with everyone and kill and destroy cultures and lives? The answer is obvious.

Whites almost wiped out Native Americans.
Whites enslaved Blacks for centuries.
Whites nuked Japan.
Whites encamped Jews (and Japanese)
Whites exploited Asia.
Whites stole lands from Mexicans.
Whites invaded Middle Easterns and still doing so today.
Whites wage war against including Whites and basically everyone else.

Am I glad such a race is declining? You bet.



So you don't live in Asia and you barely know Asians? Wow, you really love to discredit yourself more and more, and I'm just sitting here laughing. Here's a little advice for you. Before you form your assumptions about Asians and then generalizing them in your post, and accuse others of being wrong, maybe you should get to know Asians and live there for once. Maybe then you can come up with a better "perspective" of yours which you think so highly of.



Criticize Asians as a whole, Mr. European-American. I'm not going to get offended. You are little butt-hurt because I criticized your race and your ugly history. Oh Boo f*cking Hoo. I respect others' perspectives if I don't know them well but people like you are too obvious. Look at my response to a Native American thread. Was I throwing a temper tantrum and mocked the individual for being a racist like you've been doing? You have a lot of growing up to do before you label others racist and try to insult them, when you were bragging about your stupid White superiority. I bet you are one of those redneck losers claiming White race was and is and will always be perfect and never do wrong. Yawn. Typical.

Excuses me for a second. I'm a bored Asian.

For decades I've spent on reading about America but little i know about the European Union. I'm an Asian Australian who is raised to be White-Washed in the past but the constant racism from White people have taught me differently, I'm now modified but not so surprised over this whole thing because for long I already saw how Westerners are extremely overrated.

I've been maliciously blamed by White people for so many years in the past that have naturally raised my defense towards them. It have caused me to forcibly studying their personality and take every slight behaviors into consideration and to carefully examine them. Due to this it have delayed my study habit and ruined a little bit of my life but unlike a traditional Asian, i feel little shame about myself and I don't really give a damn about my family honor as I am now tackling with the knowledge and personality of what have been so called the best race and what we have always been thought of a superior beings.

But do not forget for centuries we East Asian have been battling and waring with nothing but war strategies. We are slowly progressing in technology but we've never forget what we really are specialized in. We are made to war and cause conflicts in this world to slowly claim our victory, but we've becoming way too peaceful which contribute to the reason why we are constantly being exploited by white people for so long.

But thanks to such discrimination from White people, they have taught me to understand more about myself, to remind myself about who i am and what i am best at. What the Westerners will witness from us in this new world is something extremely powerful, it is the most undefeated and most fearsome that the world have never known. Because of the untrusted Western we've wasted enough times dreaming about world peace, from this day onwards we will work to claim this world as ours and to create new world laws and orders that will put a stop to any future conflicts and to unite this planet at once.

I'm a worshiper of the legendary Zhuge Liang except I'm several times better than him in war strategies. I'm a born commoner. which explained my moronic talk but thanks to White people as they have forced me to train myself to this level, I'm now seeking ways to apply my skills and abilities to become one of the strongest in the Western society.

Ooh, there is a huge amount of passive (usually) hatred going on. I'll only mention what I didn't see:

Northern Europeans > Southern Europeans (we find them simple, discriminating, arrogant, corrupt people).
Northern Europeans < Southern Europeans (cold, boring and threatening)
Baltics > Russia (obvious historical reasons, linguistic also)
Baltics < Russia (these countries "belong" to Russia)

I'm partly German, partly Swedish and probably couple others mixed in living in Northern Europe.
I think it would be easier for me to point out the friendly relations.
War is a natural situation, it's peace which is irrational.