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donthate
I constantly read hateful comments about asians bashing fellow asians. I wonder if europeans have the same problems. For example, japanese diss koreans who diss chinese who diss viet who diss laos who diss thai, etc....

Are southern europeans considered dirty and unnattractive to northern europeans? Do northern europeans look down on western/southern europeans? Do western europeans look down on eastern europeans? Are greek and spanish considered the lowest?
fivers
I didn't know Koreans diss Chinese, thought it was the other way around lol
donthate
QUOTE (fivers @ Aug 17 2009, 04:26 PM) *
I didn't know Koreans diss Chinese, thought it was the other way around lol


Judging by all the trolls and anti-chinese threads in kchat, I'd say they diss each other....
fivers
in Europe the following diss each other:

-English and Irish
-French and English
-French and Belgians
-Belgians and Dutch
-Belgians between each other (North vs. South)

but I don't really know about the other parts

anyway there's a part of truth about the cleanliness, in general the French are not considered as very hygienic
islander
The French have a saying that Africa starts at there Southern border. The Iberian Peninsula with Spain and Portugal is at there southern border.

Also, the Catalans and Spanish diss each other.
Flemish (North) and the Walloon (South) people of belgium diss each other.
samnang
Many European countries aren't homogeneous, they're heavily multicultural like the U.S.

Unique European identities don't really stand out anymore. You're not an Englishmen or a Frenchmen, you're just white.
metalhead
QUOTE (samnang @ Aug 18 2009, 04:44 PM) *
Many European countries aren't homogeneous, they're heavily multicultural like the U.S.

Unique European identities don't really stand out anymore. You're not an Englishmen or a Frenchmen, you're just white.


That's true. European countries being in such close proximity of each other, have people coming and going across borders all the time. Due to unrestrictive intraeuropean laws. And they have all come under the EU after realizing that they have to work with each other to have any global influence. It has kind of lead to a pan European identity. Plus most of these European countries have things like the Euro cup or Eurovision where cultural exchange is pretty common. Not to mention, countries like Australia and New Zealand have things like the Bledisloe which serves to strengthen ties. Asian countries are separated by seas and oceans and East Asia is just so different to South East Asia.

YourMuDoIsWeak
Irish PRIDE!!!
I have family in Ireland.
limabean
My white friend who is Irish/English hate Russian and Slavic people.
I don't know why.
limabean
My white friend who is Irish/English hate Russian and Slavic people.
I don't know why.
LuciferRises
QUOTE (limabean @ Aug 18 2009, 02:19 PM) *
My white friend who is Irish/English hate Russian and Slavic people.
I don't know why.


And he's American?
metalhead
Maybe with the exception of Croatians and Serbians.
Shyn
Why would the Greeks be considered the lowest? LOL, Greece is the birthplace of western civillization.
metalhead
China was the greatest of Eastern civilizations, doesn't stop nationalists from country X & Y from looking down on us.
YoungOne
Eastern Europeans are looked down upon by the most in our parts. People from Poland, Slovakia, Romania etc..
donthate
QUOTE (Shyn @ Aug 18 2009, 06:57 PM) *
Why would the Greeks be considered the lowest? LOL, Greece is the birthplace of western civillization.


I guess because they are darker and closer to africa than other european countries....I know some germans who think poles are dirty, stupid, and moral-less.
boobu
uh, no they don't. first, they don't have a problem from the foundation up of a group or subculture of whites who think less of being white significantly in looks, attitudes or what they are. they don't go around worshipping other people and have a much stronger ego(of course their are ugly side effects or negativity associated with this also) they are also the ones to have most racially based political groups than any other race where they represent people of their race across the globe.

no, they are different.
Forummember
QUOTE (fivers @ Aug 18 2009, 12:01 AM) *
in Europe the following diss each other:

-English and Irish
-French and English
-French and Belgians
-Belgians and Dutch
-Belgians between each other (North vs. South)

but I don't really know about the other parts

anyway there's a part of truth about the cleanliness, in general the French are not considered as very hygienic


- Sweden and Finland
- Italy and Romania
- Germany and Poland

It's often about countries who share a border.
And everybody let the Germans know that they started the War, but more as joke.

Eastern Europe is not as rich as Western Europe, but since they also join the EU a lot people come to work in the West. Some blame them for bringing crime, but i think it's not that bad.

The countries with the worst reputations are Bulgaria and Romania, they are considerd with much crime, corruption and very poor.

YoungOne
QUOTE (donthate @ Aug 19 2009, 10:33 PM) *
I guess because they are darker and closer to africa than other european countries....I know some germans who think poles are dirty, stupid, and moral-less.

Nah, no one dislikes the Greek (except the Turkish). Greek and Spain are warmer countries (because they're close to Africa), and their geographic location and exotic culture make them attractive for other Europeans. Besides, you seem to have forgotten the fact that people with lighter skin like golden brown skin.
islander
^A Bulgarian on-line once told me the Greeks like the English and Americans. But when it comes to Bulgarians it is another story. Seems some Greeks do not treat well there other Balkan neighbors like the Albanians and Macedonians.
mandaluyongboy
The EU nations are famous for their indifference towards each other, none more so than Britain which has always tended to be the last to conform to Brussels.
YoungOne
QUOTE (islander @ Aug 26 2009, 11:07 PM) *
^A Bulgarian on-line once told me the Greeks like the English and Americans. But when it comes to Bulgarians it is another story. Seems some Greeks do not treat well there other Balkan neighbors like the Albanians and Macedonians.

Well, here in Norway Balkan is considered to be a lot more related to Eastern Europe than the Southern Europe. And I also know a couple of Greeks who don't consider Greece to be a part of Balkan, and claim to have a totally different culture than in other Balkan countries like Macedona, Albania, Serbia and Bulgaria. There has also been in a lot of migration from the Slavic countries to the rest of Balkan, which once again sort of explains why people consider most of Balkan to be closer Eastern Europe than Southern Europe, sort of the case with people thinking SEA is closer to East Asia.
islander
^I do know the Bulgarians even though they follow Bulgarian Slavic culture they say only 15% today are genetically slavic while 47% are Thracian.

And Albanians are not Slavic. Chimeria is a region just South of Albania that was majority Albanians. After WW I the Allies gave most of this region to the Greeks. The Greeks then brought in Greeks that were in living in Turkey and settled them there. While those of Albania culture that were living there were sent to Turkey. There properties were confiscated. Then after WW II the Greeks forced the majority Albanians in Chimeria to Albania. There properties were again confiscated. Even Albanians, they are called Chams in Chimeria, that helped the Greeks during WW II were forced out.

Some info.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameria

Edit: The Greeks are included has being in the Balkans. It also seems in order not to use the word Balkans many are calling that region Southeastern Europe.
YoungOne
QUOTE (islander @ Aug 27 2009, 04:06 AM) *
^I do know the Bulgarians even though they follow Bulgarian Slavic culture they say only 15% today are genetically slavic while 47% are Thracian.

And Albanians are not Slavic. Chimeria is a region just South of Albania that was majority Albanians. After WW I the Allies gave most of this region to the Greeks. The Greeks then brought in Greeks that were in living in Turkey and settled them there. While those of Albania culture that were living there were sent to Turkey. There properties were confiscated. Then after WW II the Greeks forced the majority Albanians in Chimeria to Albania. There properties were again confiscated. Even Albanians, they are called Chams in Chimeria, that helped the Greeks during WW II were forced out.

Some info.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameria

Edit: The Greeks are included has being in the Balkans. It also seems in order not to use the word Balkans many are calling that region Southeastern Europe.

First of all I'm not Albanian, so I wouldn't know much. I do hoewever know a lot of Albanians, and just the other day I had a conversation on this with my colleague (also Albanian). My colleague is extremely nationalistic, but he also claimed that Albanians don't consider themselves to be all that closely related to the Greeks now. He said that they shared ancient ties, but now they have completely different cultures. According to my colleague Albanians have a lot more cultural similarities with Eastern Europe, which consists of other ethnic groups than Slavs as well.

Balkan is simply the name of the peninsula. People from that area (people I have met), simply refer to it as Balkan and talk about a common Balkan culture. Balkan is used to refer to Albania, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Kosovo (and sometimes Bosnia); all of these refer to having a similar Balkan culture. But none of the countries I mentioned ever remotely mention having similarities with the Greeks or Turks.

By the way thanks for the insight in Albanian history, a lot of things I didn't know. beerchug.gif
adskee
QUOTE (donthate @ Aug 17 2009, 04:21 PM) *
I constantly read hateful comments about asians bashing fellow asians. I wonder if europeans have the same problems. For example, japanese diss koreans who diss chinese who diss viet who diss laos who diss thai, etc....

Are southern europeans considered dirty and unnattractive to northern europeans? Do northern europeans look down on western/southern europeans? Do western europeans look down on eastern europeans? Are greek and spanish considered the lowest?


I think no but if there is a war in whole of europe , i would support russia and hope they dominate the whole of europe excluding some countries in the caucas kazhakstan and kyzgystan
PaxAsiaticus
QUOTE (donthate @ Aug 17 2009, 04:21 PM) *
I constantly read hateful comments about asians bashing fellow asians. I wonder if europeans have the same problems. For example, japanese diss koreans who diss chinese who diss viet who diss laos who diss thai, etc....

Are southern europeans considered dirty and unnattractive to northern europeans? Do northern europeans look down on western/southern europeans? Do western europeans look down on eastern europeans? Are greek and spanish considered the lowest?


I am sorry, but this deserves a crude response - have you been living under a rock for the past few years?

Does the Balkans conflict, Northern Ireland, Basque-Spain conflict, or The Russian invasion of Georgia and yes World War 1 and 2 ring any bell??

If you know those following events, then you already know the answer to your question, unless you are implying that China's state media or any other Asian media does not report a word on these events.

sinraptor
From what I hear, the French, English and Italians diss each other all the time. No Europeans will diss the Germans though
Jagger
The following European rivalries come to mind...

-Western Europeans vs. Eastern Europeans
-Northern Europeans vs. Southern Europeans
-English vs. Scottish
-English vs. Irish
-British vs. French
-Mainlaind Italians vs. Sicilians
-Turks vs. Greeks
-Turks vs. Armenians
-Bosnians vs. Serbs

...And so on.
Taln
In Answer the OP.... Oh hell, yeah!

Let's see who might have been left off the growing list......

American vs everyone on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean
Castillian Spaniards vs the rest of Spain
Welsh vs English
Northern Ireland vs the rest of Ireland
English speaking Canadians vs. French Canadians
Cajuns (historically French Canadians in southern U.S.) vs. other Americans
Serious infighting and disparagement between any two of the states in the U.S.

The list is endless. All you have to do is find a slight language variation or poltical border and you have western people fighting themselves.



p0734334
Brits and Polacks.
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