a fully domestic naval fighter/bomber at a fraction of cost of SU-30MK2, capable of carrying deep strike mission (multiple heavy anti-ship mssile) in the sea against Warship lacking in moderm air defense.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhHJqt-i9s4


against junks like this. Afew minutes is all it takes to mop them up.

Notice the two pods underneath this fighter/bomber.
You must be wondering what are them using for? Well Those are ECM pods.
Those babies will put to good use against Vietnam's newly acquired SU30-MK2 from Russia.
CHina has those planes and know their spec inside out. The ECM electronic attack would render the SU30-MK2 ineffective, and ultimately got killed by the JH-7A, making them a total waste of Vietnam taxpayers money.

(You got to wonder how many sacks of rice Vietnam has to export in order to buy one SU30-MK2, and Bang it's over within minutes... Sad day for Vietnam tax payers, blood money, so to speak)

How?

China knows the SU30MK2 frequency very well, so attacking its communication and guidance signals.

Before the French, Americans, Russian even existed; Dai Viet knew how to defend and grew stronger.


With Song Dynasty, Khmer Empire, Champa attacking in 3 sides; Dai Viet still prevailed in the 10th century and onward.


Do not underestimate the Viets who are the children of Au Co and Lac Long Quan.

Dear Socal,
Don't worry, China won't attack the Da Viets of the north. It just to teach those vietnamese speaking Champa folks a lesson in southern Vietnam.

You just sit back and relaxed.

Please remember the saying of Au Co and Lac Long Quan below.


100,000,000 Viets will fight any foreign invaders
Our lands and seas are full of blood, sweat, and tears of our ancestors and our enemies
Independence, freedom, and happiness at any cost



"We have brought a hundred children into the world in order to live with you in perfect harmony. Whether you go up to the mountain or down to the sea, you shall let one another know if you run into difficulties, and you should, by no means, desert one another."
by Au Co and Lac Long Quan
(Parents of Vietnamese People)

The children of Au Co and Lac Long Quan will live on and the memory of our ancestors will be with us forever.


The Viets will govern the south and the Hans will govern the north. Whoever breaks this mandate of heaven is like the rivers trying to contain the ocean.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think girl wearing this type traditional dress shouldn't wear a bra. It's bad mixture. Don't you think?


Anyway, Socal , whatever you preaching doesn't ring a bell. We weren't taught like that.
It all sounds like some archaic BS to me...

You might be too old to be re-educated. But I hope you don't continue to pass on this type of BS to your children..

Instead you should teach them the value of mandarin, tai-chi, kung-fu, and finally Dim-Sum..

I am proud to be a descendant of Au Co and Lac Long Quan.

What 'frequency' is that? Be careful, I have nearly 15 yrs of avionics experience.

Why don't you ask the PLA, it has the SU-30MK2 for many yrs already. I am sure they can tell you
what frequency it's using for the radar.

Do you think I am lying if I tell you I have nearly 16 yrs of avionics experience.

I would not say you are 'lying' but judging from your comments so far I would say you do not know what you are talking about. Radars usually transmit in freq bands and different bands falls into different categories, such as 'Search', 'Track' and 'Targeting'. Different freqs have different characteristics and behaviors on a body. So I do find it suspicious for you to make a blanket statement regarding the ECM pods installed on the JH-7A against the SU-30. Both are junks but some junk are less so than others.

well, that's kind of you of thinking I am not lying, but unfortunately I think you are lying.
Who care about doing BS argument on search, track and targetting on the internet?

China has SU-30, making the ECM pod to counter what it has is perfectly within its capability.

You calling the ECM junk because you are jealous, vietnam can't even make them. haha

The video and picture speak more than 1000 words.

In any kind of war , Human elements come first after that is weapons. I dont know what CCP Thought but the day they send any kind of soldier or weapon into Vietnam is the day they send their soldier to hell. That is fate of invader, when you step your feet on a peaceful nation to cause death and destruction, You reduce to nothing more than a animal in human body, you have already died from inside. No matter what kind of weapon you use all of them become useless. Good job stealer.

In any kind of war , Human elements come first after that is weapons. I dont know what CCP Thought but the day they send any kind of soldier or weapon into Vietnam is the day they send their soldier to hell. That is fate of invader, when you step your feet on a peaceful nation to cause death and destruction, You reduce to nothing more than a animal in human body, you have already died from inside. No matter what kind of weapon you use all of them become useless. Good job stealer.

In any kind of war , Human elements come first after that is weapons. I dont know what CCP Thought but the day they send any kind of soldier or weapon into Vietnam is the day they send their soldier to hell. That is fate of invader, when you step your feet on a peaceful nation to cause death and destruction, You reduce to nothing more than a animal in human body, you have already died from inside. No matter what kind of weapon you use all of them become useless. Good job stealer.

Napoleon the master of war once said, the morale to the physical is 1 to 3. What he meant was that with his troops' high fighting spirit he can defeat much larger army twice or triple the size of his own. High morale can make up for any lack of weapon and material.

These faithless unmotivated Chinese fighting for money/greed rather than a purpose, thus you're going to need better weapons.

It is often said that poor people have more fun. Poor warriors have more fun and are more creative. If you're rich, act poor.

Would China dare to use her Air Force against Vietnam ? Big Question Mark !

I have not made any claim that you can definitively prove that I lied about anything.

Who care? Those who have relevant experience do.

Unsubstantiated claim. The behavior of a radar signal on a body is no state secret. China knows and so does the Vietnamese Air Force. So far we have yet to see any credible TECHNICAL explanations as to how China designed an ECM system that can render the SU-30 useless. You cannot even tell us what 'frequency' the SU-30 uses for what purposes. Why should I or anyone take anything you say seriously?

I called both the Russian and Chinese products junks.

every weapon on that ship is no doubt a third rate copy stolen from the west. i can easily find the specs of any chinese ECMs by examining some imported chinese milk. i'm not impressed lolz.

China completes the tests of its latest fighter. Chinese engineers say that J-11BS represents the aviation of the fourth generation. Foreign experts say that the Chinese have actually stolen the idea of the fighter jet from Russia.


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China’s latest J-11BS fighter was unveiled on April 10. The development of the aircraft is to be finished by the end of 2009. The serial production is to be launched in 2010.

Chinese engineers have not offered anything new. The J-11BS is a two-seated modification of the J-11B, which appeared in China as a result of an international scandal.

China purchased a batch of Su-27 SKK from Russia in 1992. The country later said that it would like to build its own fighters on the Russian license. Russia then received orders for the two-seated version of the same aircraft – Su-30 MKK.

The miracle of the Chinese aircraft-making company Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) took off in 1998 – the J-11 aircraft, which was actually a licensed product.

China ’s military administration said six years later that it no longer needed licensed fighter jets because their battling capacities did not match the country’s needs, as it was said. China had 95 new J-11 aircraft added to its arsenal; the planes virtually represented Russian fighter jets assembled in China.

However, China proved to be unable to develop the production of aircraft engines, and the country continues to purchase Russian engines for Su-27 MKK and Su-30 MKK, which supposedly do not meet China’s demands.

In February 2007, China represented J-11B, which bore a striking resemblance to Russia’s Su fighters, as US experts wrote.

China is currently working on the deck-based version of the Su-27 aircraft. The country apparently uses its previous experience and copy Russian fighters for it. Therefore, Russia refused to sell deck-based Su-33 to China in 2008.

Sergei Balmasov,
Pravda.Ru correspondent
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/107437-fighter_jet-0

100,000,000 Viets are ready to defend the lands and seas of Dai Viet.



Assembly of Dien Hong where Dai Viet people met to repel the three Mongols invasions.

Depend on what's objective.
It's like your height is 5'6" and I am 5'10". And then you say I am not that tall. Well true, compare to someone over 6' I am not that tall, but I am still taller than you. You see.

Everything is relative. The objective is for PLA to teach Nam a lesson once a while. That should easily accomplishable. And PLA tools look very sophisticated compared to slackers.

Haha

It's getting very close.
WS-10A/B in trade show. Enjoy! haha

quite proud after being ruled for a thousand years by the chinese

Independence, freedom, and happiness at any cost.

Went from repelling the chinese to giving up and talking about independence

Vietnam is soaked with the blood of dead Chinese colonists through out the millenniums. Please send in some more, thus dead Chinese serve as a good fertilizer for the land. Bring your Cambodian cannon fodders along too. The more the merrier.

The motto of Viet Nam is independence, freedom, and happiness.


Please don't be stupid.

JH-7A's been out a long time now, and how has that plane anything to do in Viet chat...

Lilzz, what's your problem always talking bout China invading Vietnam.. what can China possibly get out of it except a huge waste of lives and money.

WOW!
How do you know this? You're a fu-king loser; go get a girlfriend.

That is a very nice copy of a RUSSIAN JET.............down to the correct Shade of Gray..........Good Job China !