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UncleSouTh
First thing is this health care BS. Seriously not everyone can afford health care now and the doctors are asking WAY too much money for things such as surgery! Its ridiculous and most of it is because of lawsuits and malpractice. For example my 400 pound husband died from natural causes shortly after a heart transplant so I'm going to sew the hospital for money. Seriously!? well maybe if your husband isn't 400lb and unhealthy then maybe he would of had a better chance living, Doctors did the best they could. Lawyers need not to do these lawsuits anymore unless it has a more valid reason, but they dont care they just want money. to add to lawyers, they need to get it out of their heads that they can make laws in the US. If i needed a serious surgery i would be better off going to Germany or Sweden or some other country to get it cheaper and probably better. sad to say.

Second is this Pot/THC issue the federal government and state government need to remake. It is classified still more dangerous than cocaine, opium, and morphine?! Drug Classification. What kind of anger issue did America have to classify that as being a "Schedule 1" drug. no medical uses? Marijuana has no medical uses? its one of the best used substance with no harmful side effects. I know a friend who had cancer and she had to take drug after drug with side effects then had to take drugs to counter those side effects, up until she took marinol (THC) did her pain was more relieved because she had no side effects besides maybe hunger. she was going through chemo therapy at that time (she survived). So this definitely has to end, cause the government is upholding some grudge or something to try to convince the public it is as dangerous as heroine and people still go to jail possessing a plant grown in nature and not made by people... its dumb..

rant ends.. any other ideas or comments besides Americans are too fat cause they have corn and sugar in all their foods haha.
avisitor
Yes, health care must change.
Cost of a hospital stay can forever damage a life
Make a hard working person into a homeless wraith
Health care is a huge issue.
It can be the straw that breaks the backs of the American workers


Marijuana ... you have to learn the history about it
in order to understand why it is considered to be so dangerous.
Ever see the movie "Reefer Madness"? embarassedlaugh.gif
I'd have to visit Amsterdam, Holland
and maybe try it myself???? icon_redface.gif
chiuchimu
Go back to old school politics.
Democrats and Republicans have always been fighting.
However, they followed certain unsaid rules: No hitting below the belt, private life was off the table, No sabotaging opponents plan and in emergency we come together.

Politicians compromised back then and if one side won a bill then the other side gave up and started plans for their next objective, not sabotage the other side so the enemies plan can't work. If side A's bill passes then side B kills its funding. If Side B's legislation passes then side A uses the court to call it unconstitutional. And the hostility towards each other is at an all time high.

Politics has to be repaired before any national problem gets solved.

flipcombatmedic
No offense but I really disdain that some pot smokers think that legalization of a leisure drug, except for medical use, is the most important legislation that need to be passed.
InitialDJay
needs to clean up the prison system.
Forummember
Not allow people to own guns. That would save some lives.
chiuchimu
Do their job at the Mexican border and give Asians more opportunities to become U.S. citizens.
Cumulus
One would think that the USA would be more welcoming to immigrants seeing that most of them are descendants from immigrants. I find it very unsightly.
AzNboii
i agree wit you on tha health care but.. on tha bud issue, i dont think its that big of a deal.. $hit can stay illegal for tha rest of my lifetime but that aint gunna keep me from sparkin, never has.

I guess tightening up tha borders and cleanin up tha prison system are a good start. Putting a ban on guns is a retarded idea.
avisitor
QUOTE (AzNboii @ Sep 2 2009, 07:04 PM) *
i agree wit you on tha health care but.. on tha bud issue, i dont think its that big of a deal.. $hit can stay illegal for tha rest of my lifetime but that aint gunna keep me from sparkin, never has.

I guess tightening up tha borders and cleanin up tha prison system are a good start. Putting a ban on guns is a retarded idea.



Just don't make it the center of your life or you'll regret it.
Also, getting caught lighting up or just carrying can ruin a lot of chances to get a better job
or public housing or other things.
AzNboii
Tha herb is a part of my life, definitely not tha center of it. It aint like im drivin around town wit a blunt on my lip and i dont really c myself gettin caught up chillin in my apartment blowin. I dont own a gun either. I just dont support banning guns. I c it as tha government trying to stop law abiding citizens from protecting themselves and their fam if a criminal decides to bust threw their front door whos gunna have a gun regardless of a gun ban.
chiuchimu
QUOTE (AzNboii @ Sep 3 2009, 12:38 AM) *
Tha herb is a part of my life, definitely not tha center of it. It aint like im drivin around town wit a blunt on my lip and i dont really c myself gettin caught up chillin in my apartment blowin. I dont own a gun either. I just dont support banning guns. I c it as tha government trying to stop law abiding citizens from protecting themselves and their fam if a criminal decides to bust threw their front door whos gunna have a gun regardless of a gun ban.



I'm with you on the right to arms, but too many stupid people are getting their head blown of by the improper/unsafe handling of firearms.

People are lazy, instead of placing the blame on the people who misuse/careless use a gun, they simple say "Guns are too dangerous, lets just get rid of them.

Its people that are dangerous.
fivers
America is definitely messed up.. you can carry a gun, but not smoke a joint..

anyway I'll ad their Fast-Food culture to the list of things to change, too many Americans are way too overweight...


UncleSouTh
I agree with Avisitor with the marijuana and being careful because yeah in a lot of states JUST getting caught with it will ruin your life completely and possibly jail time. it is stupid. There are a LOT of people in jail and prison for marijuana, more than murderers and rapists, that i am sure is a fact. But if it is legalized or decriminalized then the prison system will not be full of people that managed to get caught with an "illegal nature grown plant."

The only thing i am still not sure about is the gun law. In the back of my mind i feel that making guns illegal would seem like the best idea to lower violence and crime. But what good would that do if the people already posses the guns now? It is easy to conceal a gun, and making it illegal won't stop people from carrying them if they carry them now or using them. The only thing it will prevent is the legal purchase of guns.

Also i feel that the government should not be the only power to posses weapons of that sort. It feels nice to be under this blanket of security knowing that the government will protect us from attackers but living in a country where we are just people without the ability to protect ourselves because guns are illegal just doesn't feel right. Am I the only one that feels that way? or maybe i am just paranoid.

ham_let
QUOTE (flipcombatmedic @ Aug 28 2009, 01:36 PM) *
No offense but I really disdain that some pot smokers think that legalization of a leisure drug, except for medical use, is the most important legislation that need to be passed.

My beef is that the only reason drug possession is still legal is OBVIOUSLY (and I mean OBVIOUSLY) to make sure that it's easy to put black people behind bars.

And for what? Most states (AHEM CALIFORNIA) cannot even afford to keep these people in jail. They could be out working and paying taxes. (lol)
chiuchimu

Its a strange line - Alcoholic is legal but marijuana is illegal.

Also, even if most countries follow the above policy, there are other countries that allow recreational drugs as legal. It just seems so arbitrary to me.

I stopped taking drugs after High School so it doesn't affect me one way or the other.
avisitor
QUOTE (AzNboii @ Sep 3 2009, 12:38 AM) *
Tha herb is a part of my life, definitely not tha center of it. It aint like im drivin around town wit a blunt on my lip and i dont really c myself gettin caught up chillin in my apartment blowin. I dont own a gun either. I just dont support banning guns. I c it as tha government trying to stop law abiding citizens from protecting themselves and their fam if a criminal decides to bust threw their front door whos gunna have a gun regardless of a gun ban.



So, when you don't got it, you're not looking to get it?
Get out of school or work .. you think of lighting up?
You don't think that to enjoy anything .. you need it to relax?

Do you go weeks or months with out smoking it?


NRA, NRA, NRA ... yeah, I wish I could own a gun.
But, after getting arrested for drugs, I can't own one now.
AzNboii
QUOTE (avisitor @ Sep 4 2009, 05:59 AM) *
So, when you don't got it, you're not looking to get it? nope, this aint cracc homie
Get out of school or work .. you think of lighting up? sure why not
You don't think that to enjoy anything .. you need it to relax?rephrase that question

Do you go weeks or months with out smoking it? i have


NRA, NRA, NRA ... yeah, I wish I could own a gun.
But, after getting arrested for drugs, I can't own one now.
im sorry that happened dude.

avisitor
So, when you don't got it, you're not looking to get it? nope, this aint cracc homie
Get out of school or work .. you think of lighting up? sure why not
You don't think that to enjoy anything .. you need it to relax?rephrase that question
Good for you


Do you go weeks or months with out smoking it? i have
Lately?? embarassedlaugh.gif


NRA, NRA, NRA ... yeah, I wish I could own a gun.
But, after getting arrested for drugs, I can't own one now.
im sorry that happened dude.
So am I
shawn
haha ban guns, it si a right in this country, like the freedom of speech. Everyone on the planet should have the right to defend your self. banning them wont do anything other than make liberals feel better. a killer will always kind a way to kill. I carry a gun every day of my life concealed and in case some dont know it is legal. to get a CCW permit good in about 40 states. AND it shouldnt even need a permit, that is another rights violation in itself.

criminals will always get a gun, they dont obey "gun ban laws" if they did then they woud not obtain a gun in the 1st place. to won a weapon and to be able to defend your self is the one physical thing you can hold in your hands that proves you are truely free and are in control of your own fate/destiny and no gov or dictator can make you do anything.


he health care..... more BS. its high, becasue DOCs adn Pharm companies have R&D for all the great things that keep our butts alive. some how they have to pay for it. the US gov cant even run a used car buy back. how they gonna run healthcare? It is not the gov or anyone else responsibility to take care of someone. else unless they want to. You knwo how that Obamacare will be paid for? with our taxes. I dont want you or anyone to have to fork over 10-15% etc etc of your hard earned money so I can get a check up every time I get sniffles and like wise. Sure it feels good to say "oh everyone needs help!" BUt all it will do is break the back of small biz and cost us all trillions in taxes and mess things up forever., yeah there needs to be something better. but not that crap.


clean up the prisons? what does that mean? it means more death penalty to me


the borders? yes, they needs shut down. I am all for immigrants coming. but not illegally and not just to come. have kids. then get on welfare i.e. my tax dollars from MY income tax

one thing that should change is everyone should stop telling everyone else how to live. if they want to eat them selves to death at MCdonalds. let them. but they better not expect everyone to pay for their heart transplant. and the use of the "racecard" to get their way with politicians needs to stop NOW its tired and old and obama uses it non stop,,


things are not a simple as they appear this country is about individial liberty. the parties argue and fight becasue one party (democrats) want to pass laws that the majority of the population DOES NOT WANT! so its is the job of politicians to listen to the people/voters! thats why they elected them. to work for them. not to make choices they see fit. the republican party is just doing what the american people are cremaing to be done. Yeah the republicans have been a joke lately, but they are still doing some good. ... ugh.. I came here to forget this crap a little while and learn about my GFs culture. sorry I went off..
Cumulus
QUOTE (shawn @ Sep 7 2009, 03:14 AM) *
haha ban guns, it si a right in this country, like the freedom of speech. Everyone on the planet should have the right to defend your self. banning them wont do anything other than make liberals feel better. a killer will always kind a way to kill. I carry a gun every day of my life concealed and in case some dont know it is legal. to get a CCW permit good in about 40 states. AND it shouldnt even need a permit, that is another rights violation in itself.

Yes, a killer will always find ways to kill. Let's make it easier for them by making it legal to own guns. Heck why not make it legal to buy full automatic machine guns, granates and bazookas? The right to defend oneself apparently means with any means possible. It's not like criminals can't get their hands on those things illegally, so why not let them flow legally into the public? Why stop at guns?

QUOTE (shawn @ Sep 7 2009, 03:14 AM) *
he health care..... more BS. its high, becasue DOCs adn Pharm companies have R&D for all the great things that keep our butts alive. some how they have to pay for it. the US gov cant even run a used car buy back. how they gonna run healthcare? It is not the gov or anyone else responsibility to take care of someone. else unless they want to. You knwo how that Obamacare will be paid for? with our taxes. I dont want you or anyone to have to fork over 10-15% etc etc of your hard earned money so I can get a check up every time I get sniffles and like wise. Sure it feels good to say "oh everyone needs help!" BUt all it will do is break the back of small biz and cost us all trillions in taxes and mess things up forever., yeah there needs to be something better. but not that crap.

If the government is so incompetent then how is it even running anything? Why not privatize schools, law enforcement and armies? Why trust the government with anything? Why should the police take care of anyone that can't pay for it? Better yet why waste money on police when we can all get guns and protect ourselves right?

QUOTE (shawn @ Sep 7 2009, 03:14 AM) *
one thing that should change is everyone should stop telling everyone else how to live. if they want to eat them selves to death at MCdonalds. let them. but they better not expect everyone to pay for their heart transplant. and the use of the "racecard" to get their way with politicians needs to stop NOW its tired and old and obama uses it non stop,,

Hold it right there. Your telling people to stop using the race-card; you're telling people how to live. Don't be a hypocrite.

QUOTE (shawn @ Sep 7 2009, 03:14 AM) *
things are not a simple as they appear this country is about individial liberty. the parties argue and fight becasue one party (democrats) want to pass laws that the majority of the population DOES NOT WANT! so its is the job of politicians to listen to the people/voters! thats why they elected them. to work for them. not to make choices they see fit. the republican party is just doing what the american people are cremaing to be done. Yeah the republicans have been a joke lately, but they are still doing some good. ... ugh.. I came here to forget this crap a little while and learn about my GFs culture. sorry I went off..

What the public wants are decisions that will help the country. Coincidentally that's what the leaders want too. Go figure. You may have disagreemants about what you think is best for the country, but I don't think you disagree about what you want for the country. If you have a problem with their beliefs then attack the beliefs, not the persons who have them. Things are not as simple as you want to paint them. If you want to learn about your girlfriends culture then travel to her country and experience it for yourself.
shawn
1st machine guns and bazookas are legal here is just requires a little mor epaper work. SO why don tyou go fine the stats on how many people where kill;ed in the last 10 years ilegally wit machine guns. please do



the gov is a bunch of retards. and tHEY HAVE RUINED EVERYTHING THEY STICK THEIR HANDS IN



YES THE RACE CARD. CUTE SEMANTICS.


I am well aware of what the people want as I dont believe everything obama tells me
Cumulus
Why should I do that? Your argument fails without me having to do it. A killer will always find a way to kill right? So let's put guns on the streets because killers can't figure out how to shoot a person in the back. Wow, I bet you feel really safe with that concealed gun in your jacket while bleeding to death on the ground. Good for you.

And if the government is the work of the devil then I guess you prefer to build roads, hospitals and every other fu-king thing you take for granted yourself. You're nothing but an anarchist who only knows how to hate government interference without the slighest clue as to how much your way of life is owed to a government. They have ruined everything they have had their hands on? Give me a break.

It's not semantics, it's simple logic. Do you know what that is? Logic?

Yes, you sure don't believe everything Obama tells you. Big deal. I don't believe everything Obama says. Your point? No, better yet - spare me. Hope you learned a little about culture here. Like the fact that some of them asians actually have brains.
shawn
yeah I like that. good point. make guns ilegal. no point having something to defend myself with. thye will just find a way to kill me anyway. I like the way you think. its a moo tpoint casue its a right that will not be infringed and is proven to work many times over every year. yeah I do feel safe becasue having a CC has saved many peoples lives many times. and their ar elots of people in the grave that would have been glad to have a gun when it matters. but I see your fear of a simple tool will not let you see logic as you say


Im not anti gov. I am anti gov intruding into my private life ie choosing my doctor for me. taking 1/2 my check. but you seem to know more about me than I do. Thanks for judging me. you are so insightful. BTW my state gov takes care of most of the things used ona day by day basis, not the federal Gov. My state doesnt take money from my pay to give to california to build a new polar bear display at a zoo during a recession, the Federal gov does. ANd no one is suppose to "owe" anything to the Gov. the GOv supposedly works for us. its called a democratic republic, and they are put their to do as the majority of the folks in the country say. Not to rule over us and do use little favors. I wouldnt know though becasue you got me figured out despit the fact you know nothing about me. But I See you are comfy being ruled by people that pretend to care for you but lives like kings while everyone else has to suffer. no biggie



you need to calm down dude, 1st I never said asians didnt have brains, and I never insulted your culture. I offered my opinions on my country which is another right. which according to you should be ilegal if you or anyone doesnt agree with what I say. And you dont have to try to personally insult me. I didnt try to pick a fight with you. I dont know everything about your culture, and would not claim to tell you what is wrong with whatever country you live in, But I do know what is wrong with mine and have a little better understanding I tihnk. how old are you?> college student? just curious., Becasue most people I know that have lived a little longer in this country tend to lose their idealistic liberal ideas about life. no offense to you.

I dont know why you got so aggressive about my original opinions. No need to take it so persoanl, but you did for some reasn. why are you so angry? You can hate me for whatever reason you want though. But I have nothing against you or anyone else on here. anyhow neither of us is going to change the others mind, and thats ok too. I wnt even bother to comeback to thsi section of the forum. so you can flame me and feel like you have a big internet wee-wee adn impres your pals ther is no more point to wasting anymore time on it. no hard feelings onmy end BTW. if you meet again. lets talk about something more pleasant. icon_smile.gif



Cumulus
You know what writing in caps lock means right? It means shouting. And I'm the one who need to calm down? fu-k you.
The part about asians having brains was an insult to you. I'm taking it back though because it's shameful behavior and I should be above it. It was an overreaction and I apologize for it. I hope we never encounter each other again. If you want out of the debate forum then good for me. It's entirely your choice. If you decide to stay then I will strike at you again, when you say something I think is nonsensical. Since you're leaving I'll leave the rest of your argument alone. Every word you utter is a threat to my hopes for humanity. Every sentence makes me lose faith in people. I'm not taking this personally, but I am taking it emotionally.
avisitor
It is tough to be idealistic in a world that is so imperfect.
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UncleSouTh
you know what would be a perfect world avisitor. Using only renewable clean energy and getting rid of combustion engines and only use electric engines (ex: electric cars) lol :P

i heard from my professor (still trying to find article) if we had a certain amount of renewable energy plants here in the US (wind, waves, and solar) there would be enough power generated to power the world consistently. Now that blew my mind if it happens to be true. because why have oil or gas. it just makes bad people richer and make us poorer! also pollutes..
avisitor
You're right .. it would really be nice to have clean energy.
Still with oil and gas, there is great ease of portability and use.
You don't have to plug your car over night to recharge it.
Ten minutes at a gas station and you're ready to go.
Gas burns hotter and faster than electricity can heat a heating element to heat your pots and pans.

Life would certainly be different

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