Weise und Dummköpfe der Mongolischen Nation, Los, Los!!!
Full Version: Mongol Wisdom & Proverbs
Hello, i've been trying to collect proverbs, sayings by wise people & stories about Philosophers, great wise people & national Leaders from the different countries represented on AF: So my question is, who do you consider great wise-men from Mongolia and, also from around the World? What are the proverbs and the life-philosophy of the Mongolians ?
Weise und Dummköpfe der Mongolischen Nation, Los, Los!!!
Weise und Dummköpfe der Mongolischen Nation, Los, Los!!!
Der Führer hat die Endlösung der chinesisch frage
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Aug 30 2009, 01:35 PM) 
Der Führer hat die Endlösung der chinesisch frage
Yeah, i have a very biased view of your ethics LOL
Nobody has that many trains
I estimate six million on the first trip.
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Aug 30 2009, 01:42 PM)
I estimate six million on the first trip.
Well, then please tell me the title of the Mongol "Mein Kampf"
Mein Kampf
Don't fix it if it's not broken.
Don't fix it if it's not broken.
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Aug 30 2009, 01:44 PM)
Mein Kampf
Don't fix it if it's not broken.
Don't fix it if it's not broken.
LOL but even he had his idols
Chinesen sind ein Rennen, aber kein Mensch
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Aug 30 2009, 01:49 PM)
Chinesen sind ein Rennen, aber kein Mensch
LOL
RASSE ! RASSE ! i plan on consulting this
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ba...pRL._SS500_.jpg
Und we will consult this man on how to deal with certain problems. lol
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Aug 30 2009, 01:56 PM)
Und we will consult this man on how to deal with certain problems. lol
I notice you lack subtlety
You always need a good start uh setup
AHahahaha ja, ja, Auchtung.
QUOTE
The spiritual qualities of the Mongols
What distinguishes the Old Mongols is their devotion to and love of Nature, the far-reaching scope of their spiritual awareness, unending mental curiosity and nearly limitless endurance and quest for excellence in every endeavor. Since Chingis Khan is the Founder of the Mongol nation, we use his name as a starting point, and see where we get if we try to compare the qualities of water with those of the Chingis-Khanite Mongols. Afterwards we shall look more closely on their thoughts and beliefs.
The meaning of "Chingis" is something like "large body of water," "ocean," or "huge quantities of water." Considering what we know about the symbolism and spiritual universe of the Old Mongols, it seems probable that Temuchin chose to call himself by that name on the ground that the water is the strongest; the only unconquerable, but at the same time the most changeable and also the softest of all substances. Its peaceful, harmonic, imperturbable stillness can in a moment change into a frenzied daemon of waves shattering to pieces everything standing in its way, this is characteristically accomplished by the water's utilizing the forces existing in its environment.
The water is also capable of showing unyielding hardness; even the strongest person will be beaten to death by a single blow when falling onto the surface of water from a height of 15 meters. In the next second it shows a new quality: if one grabs a sword or an axe to beat the water, it will softly, easily and graciously withdraw; the water cannot be beaten. Immediately when the sword is removed, the water is unscathed. You can burn water, then it will only temporarily evaporate, and thereupon infallibly return. If one tries to push away or shut out the water, it will soon find a new path and there break every resistance with multiplied force. The water can withdraw, evade, disappear, but always, indefatigably, it returns again and again.
Nobody and nothing can for long shut out or hinder the water; with fleeting irresistibleness it circumvents the difficult areas, then it ingeniously, imperceptibly, penetrates even the minutest openings. Thereupon its changeability and flexibility enables it to utilize fluctuations in temperature to change its form and even molecular density, and thus break up and shatter everything that tries to oppose it. Water dripping down on the hardest rock will in the course of millennia relentlessly hollow out and pierce it. Through endlessly slow but mercilessly patient to catalyze corrosion it penetrates and dissolves even the strongest steel. Water, different from all other substances, cannot be locked in but is itself able to surround and envelop, it cannot be beaten but can retaliate with deadly blows. If the water swallows you, death is unavoidable.
The water is thus invulnerable and ubiquitous, it unites within itself all opposing qualities, hence it is not limited by any of them. In this way it possesses incomparable flexibility, softness and hardness without rigidity, it can therefore anywhere, anytime, adapt itself to any new circumstance, then in a split-second completely unexpected take on a new quality. Chances are that Chingis called himself "chingis" for the very reason that he wanted himself and his people to adopt and use the unique qualities of water in their actions.
And the people of Temuchin did indeed combine them all in a way hitherto unknown. In the battlefield they did not meet hard force with rigid resistance; when Western armies fought the Mongols, they never answered the attack with rigid force, instead they yielded softly, like the smooth, fleeting and dancing movements of a wave, precisely in a "watery" way. The Western ideal of manfulness with forced courage, outer demonstrations of rigid but ephemeral and false strength was not shared by the people of Chingis Khan, they let their opponents deplete their energy in futile show-offs and fierce, disorganized charges while the Mongols with an almost playful ease followed their opponents' movements in every detail, intuitively they without fail knew in advance what their opponent was going to do next, they absorbed and evaded every attempt of attack with a nimbleness and surefootedness bordering on the impossible. Ordinary human limitations did not apply to the Mongols. When time was right, they would envelop their doomed prey, exhaust him and "drown" him. Exactly in the same way as the water would envelop and slowly obliterate what it has trapped, the Mongols operated in the same manner.
This extraordinary intuitive adaptability, flexibility and eerie perspicacity permeated their whole nature, all their thought and actions. All this tells us what water represents; simultaneous strength and softness, and it possesses indefatigable, invincible strength because it possesses its sensitive, adaptable softness. The insight in this is a main constituent of the secret of the Mongols.
Their spiritual world
Regarding their religious beliefs: The Old Mongols have a distinct cosmology, which will here be outlined from their own point of view. It is up to us whether or not to actually accept their outlook, the point is that it merits inclusion here, since it was all-important in their spiritual universe.
According to Old Mongol philosophy, the Universe only apparently consists of separate entities functionally independent of all other parts. Interdependence and interconnectedness were a tangible matter of fact for the Mongols. This perception is perhaps not too original, but the Mongols went further: They knew that Cosmos is built upon principles that in turn are the fundaments of their countless manifestations. Every part of the Cosmos is therefore a microcosmos in an indefinite series, meaning that every component carries within it a blueprint of all other constituents of an intrinsically inseparable whole, as a consequence they together constitute an interconnected web resembling a giant hologram. Because of this hologrammatic organization, the uninhibited, intuitive mind has the opportunity to derive limitless knowledge from careful observation of a small number of phenomena, as every segment or facet informs simultaneously about all of them.
Herein is found the source of the fundamental dictum of the mystic, saying that all possible answers we carry within ourselves. "Know thyself." To endeavor to perceive and interpret this information accessible to us is to develop consciousness and comprehension on a Cosmic scale. We now spot an important clue to the secret of the Mongols, as they possessed an ability to tap into hidden powers in Universe by way of utilization of esoteric wisdom largely unacknowledged in the monotheistic West.
Interestingly, the Mongols at the time of Chingis Khan did not believe in any personal God endowed with human characteristics. But they believed in destiny or fate, and were convinced that Universe is governed by an omnipresent, all-pervading reality that necessarily constitutes the ultimate prerequisite to the existence of observable as well as non-observable phenomena. It is often asserted that their concept of Koeke Moengke Tengri (The Eternal Blue Heaven) was a deity resembling the personified Western God-idea. It was not so. Eternal Blue Heaven is at one and the same time a conscious entity and a representation of the eternity of Universe itself, and as such is a pantheistic symbol of the all-encompassing nature of the ultimate Cosmic laws and forces, which constitute the Mongolian concept of God. However, this idea is quite different from a belief in One God. For the Mongols, the One-God concept is an incorrect one, and rightfully so.
The Universe is filled with countless lesser and greater spirits, each with their own area of "jurisdiction." As so-called dead things are not dead, but have their spiritual energy, and energy is life, a lake, a forest, a river, a mountain and Earth herself has a spirit. The corollary of this is of course that the All, or the Ultimate Cosmos, if our mind can grasp such a thing, must have a ruling spirit, too, which like in monotheistic religions is seen as the source of everything. This is significantly different from monotheism, since the supreme spirit is only the Ultimate in a limitless series of forces, each with its own purpose and principle.
The origin of these forces are various. Bearing in mind that our habitual differentiation between non-living and living is artificial and fictitious, we should perceive the presence of life principle in everything, albeit not necessarily in the shell of a physical manifestation. People (and animals) who have lived on the physical plane do not disappear after their death, they only lose their physical shell. Their consciousness, intelligence and presence is still a reality. Likewise, albeit less obvious to may is the fact that beings and places in nature, like a tree or lake have their sustaining spirits. The Mongols were pantheists; Pantheism is correct, the Universe is Pantheistic in its very nature, filled with spirits. Because of the lack of ordinary physical contact, it is however not easy to establish communication with these forces. That requires the practice of Shamanistic techniques and procedures.
Shamanism is an integral part of the religious universe of the Mongols. Shamans, with their ritual activities, are intermediaries between the forces/gods/spirits and us, they interpret their messages to people, and are healers in many respects. It has often been stated that Shamanism represents a less advanced way of orientation towards existence. Such is not the case. A society in which Shamanic activities are common, is also a society that acknowledges the fact that we are living in a living world, where countless unseen but present and influential forces exist together with us. Shamanism is the cultural expression of the insight in this. In the Mongolian world-view, it is up to those so inclined to seek this insight, and cooperate with the very real forces that co-exist with us.
Reincarnation was and is a matter of course to the Mongols, and crucial to the Mongolian spiritual universe. The principle of transmigration of the soul is a further confirmation that we are the sole responsible creators of our destiny, on the collective as well as the individual level. This principle is something Monotheism wants to deny, because the mature insight that we create our own destiny and rebuilds our Path during every second removes the human psychological conditions that have given rise to monotheistic ideas. Instead we win faith in our capacity to harmonize with the workings of Universe and truly create our own destiny.
Monotheism, then, is in reality the least advanced worldview. By its sterile philosophical reductionism it prevents its adherents from becoming conscious of the much more complex principles at work in Cosmos. In Monotheism, the axiom dictates that "God" created Man in his picture. It is not so, it is the other way around. There is however no difficulty in understanding how monotheistic beliefs have come to exert their great appeal. A patriarchal, caring and protecting Father "up there" is a comforting thought, but very deceptive. We should free ourselves from the chains of that psychological fixation, and instead realize that we, with every reason and right, must take our destiny in our own hands, and cooperate with the living spirits that live among and with us. If we do so, great power is available to us. The Mongol people is a prime example of this.
It was not until the advent of Chingis Khan that the Mongols collectively drew together their combined human, that is their physical, mental, emotional, psychological and spiritual resources to establish the largest world empire the world has ever seen, and accomplished the great task to realize the potentials of contact between the parts of the world the Mongol Empire, stretching from the Pacific to the Baltic and including the great Moslem states of Asia, comprised. It is possible to discern in the life work of Temuchin and his Mongols the undertaking of knitting the worlds of East and West together, which means establishing and broadening human contact, dialogue, fraternization and ultimately the establishment of the conscious brotherhood of all people, a unity in the diversity which the Great Mongol always honored and encouraged. The history of the Mongols is a prime example of the principle that as long as our actions are in harmony with the larger forces, they will be endorsed by Eternal Heaven, as Chingis Khan himself would have put it.
What distinguishes the Old Mongols is their devotion to and love of Nature, the far-reaching scope of their spiritual awareness, unending mental curiosity and nearly limitless endurance and quest for excellence in every endeavor. Since Chingis Khan is the Founder of the Mongol nation, we use his name as a starting point, and see where we get if we try to compare the qualities of water with those of the Chingis-Khanite Mongols. Afterwards we shall look more closely on their thoughts and beliefs.
The meaning of "Chingis" is something like "large body of water," "ocean," or "huge quantities of water." Considering what we know about the symbolism and spiritual universe of the Old Mongols, it seems probable that Temuchin chose to call himself by that name on the ground that the water is the strongest; the only unconquerable, but at the same time the most changeable and also the softest of all substances. Its peaceful, harmonic, imperturbable stillness can in a moment change into a frenzied daemon of waves shattering to pieces everything standing in its way, this is characteristically accomplished by the water's utilizing the forces existing in its environment.
The water is also capable of showing unyielding hardness; even the strongest person will be beaten to death by a single blow when falling onto the surface of water from a height of 15 meters. In the next second it shows a new quality: if one grabs a sword or an axe to beat the water, it will softly, easily and graciously withdraw; the water cannot be beaten. Immediately when the sword is removed, the water is unscathed. You can burn water, then it will only temporarily evaporate, and thereupon infallibly return. If one tries to push away or shut out the water, it will soon find a new path and there break every resistance with multiplied force. The water can withdraw, evade, disappear, but always, indefatigably, it returns again and again.
Nobody and nothing can for long shut out or hinder the water; with fleeting irresistibleness it circumvents the difficult areas, then it ingeniously, imperceptibly, penetrates even the minutest openings. Thereupon its changeability and flexibility enables it to utilize fluctuations in temperature to change its form and even molecular density, and thus break up and shatter everything that tries to oppose it. Water dripping down on the hardest rock will in the course of millennia relentlessly hollow out and pierce it. Through endlessly slow but mercilessly patient to catalyze corrosion it penetrates and dissolves even the strongest steel. Water, different from all other substances, cannot be locked in but is itself able to surround and envelop, it cannot be beaten but can retaliate with deadly blows. If the water swallows you, death is unavoidable.
The water is thus invulnerable and ubiquitous, it unites within itself all opposing qualities, hence it is not limited by any of them. In this way it possesses incomparable flexibility, softness and hardness without rigidity, it can therefore anywhere, anytime, adapt itself to any new circumstance, then in a split-second completely unexpected take on a new quality. Chances are that Chingis called himself "chingis" for the very reason that he wanted himself and his people to adopt and use the unique qualities of water in their actions.
And the people of Temuchin did indeed combine them all in a way hitherto unknown. In the battlefield they did not meet hard force with rigid resistance; when Western armies fought the Mongols, they never answered the attack with rigid force, instead they yielded softly, like the smooth, fleeting and dancing movements of a wave, precisely in a "watery" way. The Western ideal of manfulness with forced courage, outer demonstrations of rigid but ephemeral and false strength was not shared by the people of Chingis Khan, they let their opponents deplete their energy in futile show-offs and fierce, disorganized charges while the Mongols with an almost playful ease followed their opponents' movements in every detail, intuitively they without fail knew in advance what their opponent was going to do next, they absorbed and evaded every attempt of attack with a nimbleness and surefootedness bordering on the impossible. Ordinary human limitations did not apply to the Mongols. When time was right, they would envelop their doomed prey, exhaust him and "drown" him. Exactly in the same way as the water would envelop and slowly obliterate what it has trapped, the Mongols operated in the same manner.
This extraordinary intuitive adaptability, flexibility and eerie perspicacity permeated their whole nature, all their thought and actions. All this tells us what water represents; simultaneous strength and softness, and it possesses indefatigable, invincible strength because it possesses its sensitive, adaptable softness. The insight in this is a main constituent of the secret of the Mongols.
Their spiritual world
Regarding their religious beliefs: The Old Mongols have a distinct cosmology, which will here be outlined from their own point of view. It is up to us whether or not to actually accept their outlook, the point is that it merits inclusion here, since it was all-important in their spiritual universe.
According to Old Mongol philosophy, the Universe only apparently consists of separate entities functionally independent of all other parts. Interdependence and interconnectedness were a tangible matter of fact for the Mongols. This perception is perhaps not too original, but the Mongols went further: They knew that Cosmos is built upon principles that in turn are the fundaments of their countless manifestations. Every part of the Cosmos is therefore a microcosmos in an indefinite series, meaning that every component carries within it a blueprint of all other constituents of an intrinsically inseparable whole, as a consequence they together constitute an interconnected web resembling a giant hologram. Because of this hologrammatic organization, the uninhibited, intuitive mind has the opportunity to derive limitless knowledge from careful observation of a small number of phenomena, as every segment or facet informs simultaneously about all of them.
Herein is found the source of the fundamental dictum of the mystic, saying that all possible answers we carry within ourselves. "Know thyself." To endeavor to perceive and interpret this information accessible to us is to develop consciousness and comprehension on a Cosmic scale. We now spot an important clue to the secret of the Mongols, as they possessed an ability to tap into hidden powers in Universe by way of utilization of esoteric wisdom largely unacknowledged in the monotheistic West.
Interestingly, the Mongols at the time of Chingis Khan did not believe in any personal God endowed with human characteristics. But they believed in destiny or fate, and were convinced that Universe is governed by an omnipresent, all-pervading reality that necessarily constitutes the ultimate prerequisite to the existence of observable as well as non-observable phenomena. It is often asserted that their concept of Koeke Moengke Tengri (The Eternal Blue Heaven) was a deity resembling the personified Western God-idea. It was not so. Eternal Blue Heaven is at one and the same time a conscious entity and a representation of the eternity of Universe itself, and as such is a pantheistic symbol of the all-encompassing nature of the ultimate Cosmic laws and forces, which constitute the Mongolian concept of God. However, this idea is quite different from a belief in One God. For the Mongols, the One-God concept is an incorrect one, and rightfully so.
The Universe is filled with countless lesser and greater spirits, each with their own area of "jurisdiction." As so-called dead things are not dead, but have their spiritual energy, and energy is life, a lake, a forest, a river, a mountain and Earth herself has a spirit. The corollary of this is of course that the All, or the Ultimate Cosmos, if our mind can grasp such a thing, must have a ruling spirit, too, which like in monotheistic religions is seen as the source of everything. This is significantly different from monotheism, since the supreme spirit is only the Ultimate in a limitless series of forces, each with its own purpose and principle.
The origin of these forces are various. Bearing in mind that our habitual differentiation between non-living and living is artificial and fictitious, we should perceive the presence of life principle in everything, albeit not necessarily in the shell of a physical manifestation. People (and animals) who have lived on the physical plane do not disappear after their death, they only lose their physical shell. Their consciousness, intelligence and presence is still a reality. Likewise, albeit less obvious to may is the fact that beings and places in nature, like a tree or lake have their sustaining spirits. The Mongols were pantheists; Pantheism is correct, the Universe is Pantheistic in its very nature, filled with spirits. Because of the lack of ordinary physical contact, it is however not easy to establish communication with these forces. That requires the practice of Shamanistic techniques and procedures.
Shamanism is an integral part of the religious universe of the Mongols. Shamans, with their ritual activities, are intermediaries between the forces/gods/spirits and us, they interpret their messages to people, and are healers in many respects. It has often been stated that Shamanism represents a less advanced way of orientation towards existence. Such is not the case. A society in which Shamanic activities are common, is also a society that acknowledges the fact that we are living in a living world, where countless unseen but present and influential forces exist together with us. Shamanism is the cultural expression of the insight in this. In the Mongolian world-view, it is up to those so inclined to seek this insight, and cooperate with the very real forces that co-exist with us.
Reincarnation was and is a matter of course to the Mongols, and crucial to the Mongolian spiritual universe. The principle of transmigration of the soul is a further confirmation that we are the sole responsible creators of our destiny, on the collective as well as the individual level. This principle is something Monotheism wants to deny, because the mature insight that we create our own destiny and rebuilds our Path during every second removes the human psychological conditions that have given rise to monotheistic ideas. Instead we win faith in our capacity to harmonize with the workings of Universe and truly create our own destiny.
Monotheism, then, is in reality the least advanced worldview. By its sterile philosophical reductionism it prevents its adherents from becoming conscious of the much more complex principles at work in Cosmos. In Monotheism, the axiom dictates that "God" created Man in his picture. It is not so, it is the other way around. There is however no difficulty in understanding how monotheistic beliefs have come to exert their great appeal. A patriarchal, caring and protecting Father "up there" is a comforting thought, but very deceptive. We should free ourselves from the chains of that psychological fixation, and instead realize that we, with every reason and right, must take our destiny in our own hands, and cooperate with the living spirits that live among and with us. If we do so, great power is available to us. The Mongol people is a prime example of this.
It was not until the advent of Chingis Khan that the Mongols collectively drew together their combined human, that is their physical, mental, emotional, psychological and spiritual resources to establish the largest world empire the world has ever seen, and accomplished the great task to realize the potentials of contact between the parts of the world the Mongol Empire, stretching from the Pacific to the Baltic and including the great Moslem states of Asia, comprised. It is possible to discern in the life work of Temuchin and his Mongols the undertaking of knitting the worlds of East and West together, which means establishing and broadening human contact, dialogue, fraternization and ultimately the establishment of the conscious brotherhood of all people, a unity in the diversity which the Great Mongol always honored and encouraged. The history of the Mongols is a prime example of the principle that as long as our actions are in harmony with the larger forces, they will be endorsed by Eternal Heaven, as Chingis Khan himself would have put it.
Achtung, i have found something to read and shall depart for today
i shall monitor developments im Osten, Khanführer
*Hitler return-salutes, and reads the doccuments* Lol
Wo ist das LügenSchweinausNirgendwo ?
Ich weiß nicht, wo die SS?
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Aug 31 2009, 03:52 PM)
Ich weiß nicht, wo die SS?
Ein, um den endgültigen Sieg
what does the victorious Mongol warrior say, instead of "Heil", Hurrah, or Banzai ??
I don't know what origin hurrah is, but we aren't japanese
i am too drunk already to use the correct quotation marks LOLSo, did they get the LyingPig
they did, they took out himmler. lol. Though der fuhrer is still alive. lol I'm drinking too.
what ? Not isolated enough ?
Not isolated enough ?
AUCHTUNG!!!!
QUOTE
Do not start if afraid, once begun do not be afraid.
While father alive to get to know people
While horse is strong travel to see places
Supreme treasure - knowledge
Middle treasure - children
Lowest treasure - material wealth
If you endeavour, the fate will favour you
A man fails seven times and rises eight times
Union is source of success
If mind is clean, fate is good
If you drink the water, follow the custom.
A good proverb stikes the eye,
not the eybrow.
The mountain falcon flies high;
The wiseman’s son speaks in
proverbs.
Without council there is no
wisdom;
Without praise no heroes.
Wealth - until the first snowstorm;
Hero - until the first bullet.
The path to Buddhahood has five stages;
Vows, meditation, knowledge, understanding of one’s
nature, and release.
Fame, like the wind, spreads quickly.
One peaceful yurt -
And incentive to the others.
A rich man can find heaven
Even at the edge of a precipice.
Horns are not given to the butting cow.
When profit comes, it comes with a delay.
In the lazy man’s yurt there is no firewood;
In the glutton’s yurt - no food.
In the country of the blind, close your eyes.
In the land of the lame, walk pigeon-toed.
If you become a camel, they’ll put a load on your back.
The rope breaks when it is thinnest.
Ride on the back of a calf - you’ll never reach the
nomad camp.
Read stories - you’ll never have wisdom.
Water flows from its source to the sea;
Evil acts return to the doer.
Vodka destroys everything but its container.
Man knows the wolf, but the wold doesn’t know the man.
The thief shouts too,
But he walks backwards.
At the moment of death, seek
no aid except in religion.
Plant only one seed of virtue;
Much fruit will be harvested.
A thief hates the moonlight;
An evil man hates a just one.
The thief commits one sin (when he steals).
The owner of stolen camels commits ten sins (by suspecting others).
Stealing will not make you rich;
Lying will not make you a Buddha.
A time will come when even an old widow can help you.
The sun illuminates the world;
Knowledge illuminates a man.
God bless you and may your moustache grow like brushwood (when someone sneezes)
What is a joke for a cat will be death for a mouse.
A traveling fool better than a sitting wise.
Suusan tsetsnees yavsan teneg deer
Customs of every country are different, grass of every meadow are different.
Nutag nutgiin zan oor, nug nugyn uvs oor.
Go as a blind person where blinds are, go as a lame person where lames are.
Sohryn gazar sokhor bolzh, dogolongiin gazar dogolon bolzh yav.
Stay alive and one day you will drink from a golden cup
Amid yavbal- altan ayagnaas uuna.
A horse released can be caught, a word released never.
Agt aldval barzh boldog, am aldval barzh boldoggui.
If you say “Yes” don’t sigh “No”
Za gevel yogui.
The blindness of heart is more dangerous than the blindness of eyes.
Nudnii sohoroos tsezhnii sohor hetsuu.
What is joke for a cat will be death for a mouse.
Muurand togloom, hulgand ukhel.
An ill-will besieges itself
Muu sanaa biye otno.
A gossip is worse than a poison
Khov khornoos door
While father alive to get to know people
While horse is strong travel to see places
Supreme treasure - knowledge
Middle treasure - children
Lowest treasure - material wealth
If you endeavour, the fate will favour you
A man fails seven times and rises eight times
Union is source of success
If mind is clean, fate is good
If you drink the water, follow the custom.
A good proverb stikes the eye,
not the eybrow.
The mountain falcon flies high;
The wiseman’s son speaks in
proverbs.
Without council there is no
wisdom;
Without praise no heroes.
Wealth - until the first snowstorm;
Hero - until the first bullet.
The path to Buddhahood has five stages;
Vows, meditation, knowledge, understanding of one’s
nature, and release.
Fame, like the wind, spreads quickly.
One peaceful yurt -
And incentive to the others.
A rich man can find heaven
Even at the edge of a precipice.
Horns are not given to the butting cow.
When profit comes, it comes with a delay.
In the lazy man’s yurt there is no firewood;
In the glutton’s yurt - no food.
In the country of the blind, close your eyes.
In the land of the lame, walk pigeon-toed.
If you become a camel, they’ll put a load on your back.
The rope breaks when it is thinnest.
Ride on the back of a calf - you’ll never reach the
nomad camp.
Read stories - you’ll never have wisdom.
Water flows from its source to the sea;
Evil acts return to the doer.
Vodka destroys everything but its container.
Man knows the wolf, but the wold doesn’t know the man.
The thief shouts too,
But he walks backwards.
At the moment of death, seek
no aid except in religion.
Plant only one seed of virtue;
Much fruit will be harvested.
A thief hates the moonlight;
An evil man hates a just one.
The thief commits one sin (when he steals).
The owner of stolen camels commits ten sins (by suspecting others).
Stealing will not make you rich;
Lying will not make you a Buddha.
A time will come when even an old widow can help you.
The sun illuminates the world;
Knowledge illuminates a man.
God bless you and may your moustache grow like brushwood (when someone sneezes)
What is a joke for a cat will be death for a mouse.
A traveling fool better than a sitting wise.
Suusan tsetsnees yavsan teneg deer
Customs of every country are different, grass of every meadow are different.
Nutag nutgiin zan oor, nug nugyn uvs oor.
Go as a blind person where blinds are, go as a lame person where lames are.
Sohryn gazar sokhor bolzh, dogolongiin gazar dogolon bolzh yav.
Stay alive and one day you will drink from a golden cup
Amid yavbal- altan ayagnaas uuna.
A horse released can be caught, a word released never.
Agt aldval barzh boldog, am aldval barzh boldoggui.
If you say “Yes” don’t sigh “No”
Za gevel yogui.
The blindness of heart is more dangerous than the blindness of eyes.
Nudnii sohoroos tsezhnii sohor hetsuu.
What is joke for a cat will be death for a mouse.
Muurand togloom, hulgand ukhel.
An ill-will besieges itself
Muu sanaa biye otno.
A gossip is worse than a poison
Khov khornoos door
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Sep 1 2009, 09:57 AM)
es ist ein schones lied!
Ade, mein liebes Schätzelein,
Ade, ade, ade,
Es muß, es muß geschieden sein
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Visier und Ziel sind eingestellt
Ade, ade, ade,
Auf Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt,
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Wir ruhen und wir rasten nicht
Ade, ade, ade,
Bis daß die Satansbrut zerbricht,
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Reich mir die Hand zum Scheidegruß
Ade, ade, ade,
Und deinen Mund zum Abschiedskuß
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!ia!
Ade, ade, ade,
Es muß, es muß geschieden sein
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Visier und Ziel sind eingestellt
Ade, ade, ade,
Auf Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt,
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Wir ruhen und wir rasten nicht
Ade, ade, ade,
Bis daß die Satansbrut zerbricht,
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Reich mir die Hand zum Scheidegruß
Ade, ade, ade,
Und deinen Mund zum Abschiedskuß
Ade, ade, ade,
Es geht um Deutschlands Gloria,
Gloria, Gloria,
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Viktoria!
Sieg Heil! Viktoria!ia!
Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit mutig-festem Schritt.
Kam'raden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschier'n im Geist in uns'ren Reihen mit.
Die Straße frei den braunen Bataillonen.
Die Straße frei dem Sturmabteilungsmann!
Es schau'n aufs Hakenkreuz voll Hoffnung schon Millionen.
Der Tag für Freiheit und für Brot bricht an!
Zum letzten Mal wird nun Appell geblasen!
Zum Kampfe steh'n wir alle schon bereit!
Bald flattern Hitlerfahnen über Barrikaden.
Die Knechtschaft dauert nur noch kurze Zeit!
Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig-festem Schritt.
Kameraden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschieren im Geist in unseren Reihen mit.
SA marschiert mit mutig-festem Schritt.
Kam'raden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschier'n im Geist in uns'ren Reihen mit.
Die Straße frei den braunen Bataillonen.
Die Straße frei dem Sturmabteilungsmann!
Es schau'n aufs Hakenkreuz voll Hoffnung schon Millionen.
Der Tag für Freiheit und für Brot bricht an!
Zum letzten Mal wird nun Appell geblasen!
Zum Kampfe steh'n wir alle schon bereit!
Bald flattern Hitlerfahnen über Barrikaden.
Die Knechtschaft dauert nur noch kurze Zeit!
Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig-festem Schritt.
Kameraden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschieren im Geist in unseren Reihen mit.
QUOTE
Reich mir die Hand zum Scheidegruß
Ade, ade, ade,
Und deinen Mund zum Abschiedskuß
Ade, ade, ade,
Ade, ade, ade,
Und deinen Mund zum Abschiedskuß
Ade, ade, ade,
As to you, Oyabun:
Ja, ist gud.
Oyabun, does the puppet government of the Home Islands also practice censorship ??? 
QUOTE (renascimento @ Sep 1 2009, 10:27 AM)
Oyabun, does the puppet government of the Home Islands also practice censorship ???
the puppet government is chanign now, Hatoyama will throw the White Devils out. and we do not have censorship in Japan...except for in porn, but that's different.
Do not start if afraid, once begun do not be afraid.
If mind is clean, fate is good.
One idiot can ask more questions than ten wise men can answer.
The distance between heaven and earth is no greater than one thought.
If mind is clean, fate is good.
One idiot can ask more questions than ten wise men can answer.
The distance between heaven and earth is no greater than one thought.
QUOTE (ForumFuhrer @ Sep 2 2009, 02:19 PM)
Do not start if afraid, once begun do not be afraid.
If mind is clean, fate is good.
One idiot can ask more questions than ten wise men can answer.
The distance between heaven and earth is no greater than one thought.
If mind is clean, fate is good.
One idiot can ask more questions than ten wise men can answer.
The distance between heaven and earth is no greater than one thought.
Oyabun Auf Japan!
Fräulein, Pardon
Can anyone translate all the Mongolian good wisdom proverbs to English and write in English letter?
I want to keep for record.
Thank you in advance.
I want to keep for record.
Thank you in advance.
QUOTE (kenmirzz @ Sep 4 2009, 02:03 AM)
Can anyone translate all the Mongolian good wisdom proverbs to English and write in English letter?
I want to keep for record.
Thank you in advance.
I want to keep for record.
Thank you in advance.
QUOTE
Do not start if afraid, once begun do not be afraid.
While father alive to get to know people
While horse is strong travel to see places
Supreme treasure - knowledge
Middle treasure - children
Lowest treasure - material wealth
If you endeavour, the fate will favour you
A man fails seven times and rises eight times
Union is source of success
If mind is clean, fate is good
If you drink the water, follow the custom.
A good proverb stikes the eye,
not the eybrow.
The mountain falcon flies high;
The wiseman’s son speaks in
proverbs.
Without council there is no
wisdom;
Without praise no heroes.
Wealth - until the first snowstorm;
Hero - until the first bullet.
The path to Buddhahood has five stages;
Vows, meditation, knowledge, understanding of one’s
nature, and release.
Fame, like the wind, spreads quickly.
One peaceful yurt -
And incentive to the others.
A rich man can find heaven
Even at the edge of a precipice.
Horns are not given to the butting cow.
When profit comes, it comes with a delay.
In the lazy man’s yurt there is no firewood;
In the glutton’s yurt - no food.
In the country of the blind, close your eyes.
In the land of the lame, walk pigeon-toed.
If you become a camel, they’ll put a load on your back.
The rope breaks when it is thinnest.
Ride on the back of a calf - you’ll never reach the
nomad camp.
Read stories - you’ll never have wisdom.
Water flows from its source to the sea;
Evil acts return to the doer.
Vodka destroys everything but its container.
Man knows the wolf, but the wold doesn’t know the man.
The thief shouts too,
But he walks backwards.
At the moment of death, seek
no aid except in religion.
Plant only one seed of virtue;
Much fruit will be harvested.
A thief hates the moonlight;
An evil man hates a just one.
The thief commits one sin (when he steals).
The owner of stolen camels commits ten sins (by suspecting others).
Stealing will not make you rich;
Lying will not make you a Buddha.
A time will come when even an old widow can help you.
The sun illuminates the world;
Knowledge illuminates a man.
God bless you and may your moustache grow like brushwood (when someone sneezes)
What is a joke for a cat will be death for a mouse.
A traveling fool better than a sitting wise.
Suusan tsetsnees yavsan teneg deer
Customs of every country are different, grass of every meadow are different.
Nutag nutgiin zan oor, nug nugyn uvs oor.
Go as a blind person where blinds are, go as a lame person where lames are.
Sohryn gazar sokhor bolzh, dogolongiin gazar dogolon bolzh yav.
Stay alive and one day you will drink from a golden cup
Amid yavbal- altan ayagnaas uuna.
A horse released can be caught, a word released never.
Agt aldval barzh boldog, am aldval barzh boldoggui.
If you say “Yes” don’t sigh “No”
Za gevel yogui.
The blindness of heart is more dangerous than the blindness of eyes.
Nudnii sohoroos tsezhnii sohor hetsuu.
What is joke for a cat will be death for a mouse.
Muurand togloom, hulgand ukhel.
An ill-will besieges itself
Muu sanaa biye otno.
A gossip is worse than a poison
Khov khornoos door
While father alive to get to know people
While horse is strong travel to see places
Supreme treasure - knowledge
Middle treasure - children
Lowest treasure - material wealth
If you endeavour, the fate will favour you
A man fails seven times and rises eight times
Union is source of success
If mind is clean, fate is good
If you drink the water, follow the custom.
A good proverb stikes the eye,
not the eybrow.
The mountain falcon flies high;
The wiseman’s son speaks in
proverbs.
Without council there is no
wisdom;
Without praise no heroes.
Wealth - until the first snowstorm;
Hero - until the first bullet.
The path to Buddhahood has five stages;
Vows, meditation, knowledge, understanding of one’s
nature, and release.
Fame, like the wind, spreads quickly.
One peaceful yurt -
And incentive to the others.
A rich man can find heaven
Even at the edge of a precipice.
Horns are not given to the butting cow.
When profit comes, it comes with a delay.
In the lazy man’s yurt there is no firewood;
In the glutton’s yurt - no food.
In the country of the blind, close your eyes.
In the land of the lame, walk pigeon-toed.
If you become a camel, they’ll put a load on your back.
The rope breaks when it is thinnest.
Ride on the back of a calf - you’ll never reach the
nomad camp.
Read stories - you’ll never have wisdom.
Water flows from its source to the sea;
Evil acts return to the doer.
Vodka destroys everything but its container.
Man knows the wolf, but the wold doesn’t know the man.
The thief shouts too,
But he walks backwards.
At the moment of death, seek
no aid except in religion.
Plant only one seed of virtue;
Much fruit will be harvested.
A thief hates the moonlight;
An evil man hates a just one.
The thief commits one sin (when he steals).
The owner of stolen camels commits ten sins (by suspecting others).
Stealing will not make you rich;
Lying will not make you a Buddha.
A time will come when even an old widow can help you.
The sun illuminates the world;
Knowledge illuminates a man.
God bless you and may your moustache grow like brushwood (when someone sneezes)
What is a joke for a cat will be death for a mouse.
A traveling fool better than a sitting wise.
Suusan tsetsnees yavsan teneg deer
Customs of every country are different, grass of every meadow are different.
Nutag nutgiin zan oor, nug nugyn uvs oor.
Go as a blind person where blinds are, go as a lame person where lames are.
Sohryn gazar sokhor bolzh, dogolongiin gazar dogolon bolzh yav.
Stay alive and one day you will drink from a golden cup
Amid yavbal- altan ayagnaas uuna.
A horse released can be caught, a word released never.
Agt aldval barzh boldog, am aldval barzh boldoggui.
If you say “Yes” don’t sigh “No”
Za gevel yogui.
The blindness of heart is more dangerous than the blindness of eyes.
Nudnii sohoroos tsezhnii sohor hetsuu.
What is joke for a cat will be death for a mouse.
Muurand togloom, hulgand ukhel.
An ill-will besieges itself
Muu sanaa biye otno.
A gossip is worse than a poison
Khov khornoos door
can't vouch for the translation, can't speak mongolian
Hi all
I found this proverb when I was eating in Nomad Restaurant in Mongolia, can someone translate to Mongolian using English letters?
"Meat for men, grass for animal"
Thank you in advance.
I found this proverb when I was eating in Nomad Restaurant in Mongolia, can someone translate to Mongolian using English letters?
"Meat for men, grass for animal"
Thank you in advance.
QUOTE (kenmirzz @ Sep 6 2009, 08:57 PM)
Hi all
I found this proverb when I was eating in Nomad Restaurant in Mongolia, can someone translate to Mongolian using English letters?
"Meat for men, grass for animal"
Thank you in advance.
I found this proverb when I was eating in Nomad Restaurant in Mongolia, can someone translate to Mongolian using English letters?
"Meat for men, grass for animal"
Thank you in advance.
"Makh erchuuded zoriulagdsan,Ovs amitadad zoriulagdsan"
better version is
"Meat for men, grass for animal"
Mah erchuudiinh harin ovs bol amtdad zoriulagdsan
Мах эрчүүдийнх харин өвс бол амтьдад зориулагдсан.
"Meat for men, grass for animal"
Mah erchuudiinh harin ovs bol amtdad zoriulagdsan
Мах эрчүүдийнх харин өвс бол амтьдад зориулагдсан.
QUOTE (ForumFuhrer @ Sep 11 2009, 03:34 PM)
better version is
"Meat for men, grass for animal"
Mah erchuudiinh harin ovs bol amtdad zoriulagdsan
Мах эрчүүдийнх харин өвс бол амтьдад зориулагдсан.
"Meat for men, grass for animal"
Mah erchuudiinh harin ovs bol amtdad zoriulagdsan
Мах эрчүүдийнх харин өвс бол амтьдад зориулагдсан.
Mongol hun baina end.Oooroo haanas be?
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