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donthate
I was given an unfounded warning by Gatts and I don't understand the reason for being warned. This is what it said: "harrassing a member about his ethnic background and making groundless accusations as a new member, you're on thin ice. stay on topic and refrain from flaming."

I did not do what he accused me of and he did could not give me an example or quote of what I did. Also, this is not the only time he has warned me for something unfounded. Gatts, please try to treat everyone fairly and equally because being a mod does not make you immune from bias and have absolute power. Perhaps you don't like me or my ethnicity, and that is your choice, but do not use that as leverage to punish me. Most of the other mods do their job and set their personal bias aside, but mod's like Gatts are not doing their job and need to be reviewed.

If anyone else has been treated unfairly by Gatts or any other mod please speak out. Freedom of speech is no longer free if people cannot state their opinions.

Edit: I made a thread about unfair moderation in K-chat and it was closed. I feel like I am being heavily censored for calling out injustice.
joolee
returning troll aka "chucky3176"

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donthate
QUOTE (joolee @ Sep 1 2009, 06:20 PM) *
returning troll aka "chucky3176"

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I certainly hope the moderation is good because calling me a "dipstick" and suggesting my "english isn't good" because I am chinese should definitely get someone warned....
archaeologist
I will agree with the above poster. I have received unwarranted suspensions and false accusations about flaming. I have seen this place be very unfair as osme members can do and say whatever they want while others are warned and threatened for doing the exact same thing.

there is a lot of injustice here, and the mods do not like it when you defend koreans and expose the sins of the westerners, who bash, insult, attack, ridicule korea and koreans unfairly and without cause. What people complain about taking place in this country, takes place all over the world and they need to grow up and stop acting like spoiled children who think the koreans only exist for their pleasure.

time to moderate fairly, honestly and stop the bashing of a people who are no different from your own countrymen.

Yer
QUOTE (donthate @ Aug 25 2009, 11:33 PM) *
Judging by what some of you have said *cough*santaklaws*cough* joolee*cough* you seem more like white supremacists than koreans. In reality china has never done anything to make you think they want to "colonize" korea.

I find the most fanatical anti-chinese trolls happen to be white.

^ Ain't that what you said?
Man... seriously? They're white supremacists because they dislike China?
Those two have been in K-Chat for ages... none of the older members ever accused them of not being Korean.
donthate
QUOTE (Yer @ Sep 1 2009, 08:21 PM) *
^ Ain't that what you said?
Man... seriously? They're white supremacists because they dislike China?
Those two have been in K-Chat for ages... none of the older members ever accused them of not being Korean.


I only said that because joolee had made a statment saying that white people were in danger of being "extinct" if they keep race mixing....

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QUOTE (joolee @ Aug 25 2009, 10:14 PM) *
With Asians making up world's 60% of the population, I don't think you have anything to worry about there. On the other hand, whites do have something to worry about considering that they quickly going extinct due to all the intermarriages and mixing.


the original quote was so bad that it was deleted but now it's back and has been edited...
Yer
So he thinks white people just MIGHT be in danger of going extinct... maybe he likes this idea, maybe he doesn't... why does this make him a white supremacist?
donthate
QUOTE (Yer @ Sep 1 2009, 08:53 PM) *
So he thinks white people just MIGHT be in danger of going extinct... maybe he likes this idea, maybe he doesn't... why does this make him a white supremacist?


the way he said it before the quote was edited was against racial mixing and "preserving purity"....he sounded more like a scared supremacist than an asian observer. And I don't care how long he has been on AF, that doesn't exclude him from the rules and that doesn't exclude him from being a racist.
SantaKlaws
donthate hass been repeatedly harrassing me by calling me white, and this annoys the fu-k out of me. If anything the moderation is not doing a fair job by not banning this racist troll already.
donthate
QUOTE (SantaKlaws @ Sep 1 2009, 09:17 PM) *
donthate hass been repeatedly harrassing me by calling me white, and this annoys the fu-k out of me. If anything the moderation is not doing a fair job by not banning this racist troll already.



calling me a nationalist, dipstick, troll, idiot, and constantly making bashing my people every chance you get is annoying the fu-k out of me....is also annoying the fu-k out of me. Don't flatter yourself, beyond arguing with you on k-chat I have no other (nor do I want any) contact with you.
Yer
QUOTE (donthate @ Sep 1 2009, 09:58 PM) *
the way he said it before the quote was edited was against racial mixing and "preserving purity"....he sounded more like a scared supremacist than an asian observer. And I don't care how long he has been on AF, that doesn't exclude him from the rules and that doesn't exclude him from being a racist.

I don't know what it said before the edit, but based on the topics he makes (mostly news about Korea), stories he tells about himself, and views on politics and history... I'm pretty sure he's a Korean nationalist.
SantaKlaws
QUOTE (donthate @ Sep 2 2009, 11:29 AM) *
calling me a nationalist, dipstick, troll, idiot, and constantly making bashing my people every chance you get is annoying the fu-k out of me....is also annoying the fu-k out of me. Don't flatter yourself, beyond arguing with you on k-chat I have no other (nor do I want any) contact with you.


Bashing your people? As I recall, most of my criticisms are towards the Chinese government its policies, and the advocates of those policies. If you find it so annoying that the Korean Chat community find you annoying enough to call you such names, maybe it's time you realize that you're not welcomed there and decide to stay out for the sake of peace. In short, go preach your race-politics elsewhere and stop your incessant harassment of Koreans in Korean Chat.
donthate
QUOTE (SantaKlaws @ Sep 1 2009, 11:23 PM) *
Bashing your people? As I recall, most of my criticisms are towards the Chinese government its policies, and the advocates of those policies. If you find it so annoying that the Korean Chat community find you annoying enough to call you such names, maybe it's time you realize that you're not welcomed there and decide to stay out for the sake of peace. In short, go preach your race-politics elsewhere and stop your incessant harassment of Koreans in Korean Chat.


I have said nothing but good things about korea and koreans. I have never bashed any other asian ethnicities, but I cannot say the same about you. The only reason I got on your bad side is because of a quote I made talking about how I like koreans:

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I have nothing but love for my korean friends. I would like to see korea become richer and more powerful, and I would also like the same thing to happen to china. My dream is to see an eastern-centric world, or at least a world where western dominance is shattered in asia.

A lot of my korean friends are adopted and I try to support them as much as I can because I know how hard it must be to grow up and feel "ugly, different, and unsure of who you are".

Even if korea is playing against a western country in some competition I still secretly root for korea...I'm chinese but I have a connection with other asians (especially asian americans) because we have been through the same things and had to deal with racism in america and feeling "inferior to whites" because we live in a white country. Either way, westerner's all think we're the same...

This post has been edited by donthate: Aug 25 2009, 01:02 PM


I have always defended koreans and said only good things and yet I am met with hostility by you and joolee (and condemned by gatts for no reason)...I don't understand this unwarranted hate for chinese/japanese and yet this unwavering love for america.

SantaKlaws
QUOTE (donthate @ Sep 2 2009, 01:41 PM) *
I have said nothing but good things about korea and koreans. I have never bashed any other asian ethnicities, but I cannot say the same about you. The only reason I got on your bad side is because of a quote I made talking about how I like koreans:


The reason you got on my bad side was your absurd anti-West propaganda, and when I pointed out the flaws in your propaganda, you started calling me and jolee a white supremacist out of nowhere.

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I have always defended koreans and said only good things and yet I am met with hostility by you and joolee (and condemned by gatts for no reason)...I don't understand this unwarranted hate for chinese/japanese and yet this unwavering love for america.


No, when you were given the real chance of defending Korea, you made the choice of defending China at Korea's expense.

QUOTE (donthate @ Aug 26 2009, 12:46 PM) *
tibet has nothing to do with korea and is basically a trendy cause for hippies to throw concerts and b!tch about. The "northeast project" ended in 2006 and didn't affect any territories in korea. It was basically a social experiment.


Koreans do take Tibet seriously, and Korean don't see the Northeast Project as a mere social experiement.

In the end, your anti-white crusade is a nationalistic agenda for China, and for you, Korea is merely a tool that cannot possibly defy China's rise against the White people. When you face the reality that Koreans do defy your nationalistic agenda, you desperately try to frame those Koreans to be white supremacists. People have various ways of coping with reality, but yours in particular is pissing many people off, including myself, with your nonsense racist drivels and the incessant accusations towards Koreans members of being white supremacists in disguise.

Majority of Koreans see China negatively, and by the trend it's only becoming more negative. Koreans see Japan negatively also, but it's been improving according to recent polls. As for America, ratings improved steadily over the last several years and now most Koreans take America positively. There are many reasons for these changes, and they were extensively discussed in Korean Chat. Your failure to understand these changes and calling them unwarranted without even making an attempt to understand why China is hated simply points out the truth that you think of Koreans as no more than mindless pawns in your Chinese nationalistic agenda.

Unless you are prepared to show at least some respect to Koreans and the Korean point of view on things, stay out of Korean Chat and leave us at peace. I'm sure Chinese Chat will be accomodating to your political views, so do it there.
donthate
QUOTE (SantaKlaws @ Sep 2 2009, 12:29 AM) *
The reason you got on my bad side was your absurd anti-West propaganda, and when I pointed out the flaws in your propaganda, you started calling me and jolee a white supremacist out of nowhere.



No, when you were given the real chance of defending Korea, you made the choice of defending China at Korea's expense.



Koreans do take Tibet seriously, and Korean don't see the Northeast Project as a mere social experiement.

In the end, your anti-white crusade is a nationalistic agenda for China, and for you, Korea is merely a tool that cannot possibly defy China's rise against the White people. When you face the reality that Koreans do defy your nationalistic agenda, you desperately try to frame those Koreans to be white supremacists. People have various ways of coping with reality, but yours in particular is pissing many people off, including myself, with your nonsense racist drivels and the incessant accusations towards Koreans members of being white supremacists in disguise.

Majority of Koreans see China negatively, and by the trend it's only becoming more negative. Koreans see Japan negatively also, but it's been improving according to recent polls. As for America, ratings improved steadily over the last several years and now most Koreans take America positively. There are many reasons for these changes, and they were extensively discussed in Korean Chat. Your failure to understand these changes and calling them unwarranted without even making an attempt to understand why China is hated simply points out the truth that you think of Koreans as no more than mindless pawns in your Chinese nationalistic agenda.

Unless you are prepared to show at least some respect to Koreans and the Korean point of view on things, stay out of Korean Chat and leave us at peace. I'm sure Chinese Chat will be accomodating to your political views, so do it there.


I don't care if you are white or korean, it doesn't change your rude behavior and the fact that you think you can just say whatever you want. Like I said, the only reason why I thought joolee was white was because of that statement he made about keeping "racial purity" and "whites going extinct". The only reason why I thought you weren't korean is because of your hatred for other asian ethnicities and your constant praise of the west. I put two and two together and if I'm wrong, then I apologize, but it is very hard to tell who is being geniune online. Even if you posted a picture of yourself I still can't trust you. The only thing I can base people online is by their views and contradictions.

You talk about me defending china at the cost of korea...wtf does that mean?? I think you are in your own world. I'm not in the UN and I have no say in korean politics, the only thing I have a say in is korean and chinese relationships. Some of the things you say sound really...um...weird and intense.

I merely brought up asian unity and you try to heavy subjects which are not related to me (chinese american) and make it sound like I'm Mao tse dong....please don't project your insecurities and paranioa on me. "mindless pawns in your chinese nationalist agenda"??? suuuure....I have a whole blueprint of an agenda spread out on my hello kitty sheets -_- "watch out! we're gonna git you!" lol. I have no agenda and I hate politics, but I'm not blind to the fact that you have an obvious bias and bitterness...frankly, i'm a little scared by what you've said.

The only people that are angry about my "asian unity" and indifference to the west is you, joolee, and probably gatts...If you hate other asians that's fine, but why blindly defend everything the west has done? It makes you seem like you have no pride in korea and the only one who can "save korea from evil chinese communism" is america...it comes off as weak.

take a deep breadth, calm down, and reread what you've said...nobody is out to get you. It's all in your head. There's no secret plot by all chinese people to anally probe koreans and steal their land...nobody here wants to use you as a pawn...and there is no such thing as big-foot...
SantaKlaws
QUOTE (donthate @ Sep 2 2009, 02:43 PM) *
I don't care if you are white or korean, it doesn't change your rude behavior and the fact that you think you can just say whatever you want. Like I said, the only reason why I thought joolee was white was because of that statement he made about keeping "racial purity" and "whites going extinct". The only reason why I thought you weren't korean is because of your hatred for other asian ethnicities and your constant praise of the west. I put two and two together and if I'm wrong, then I apologize, but it is very hard to tell who is being geniune online. Even if you posted a picture of yourself I still can't trust you. The only thing I can base people online is by their views and contradictions.

You talk about me defending china at the cost of korea...wtf does that mean?? I think you are in your own world. I'm not in the UN and I have no say in korean politics, the only thing I have a say in is korean and chinese relationships. Some of the things you say sound really...um...weird and intense.

I merely brought up asian unity and you try to heavy subjects which are not related to me (chinese american) and make it sound like I'm Mao tse dong....please don't project your insecurities and paranioa on me. "mindless pawns in your chinese nationalist agenda"??? suuuure....I have a whole blueprint of an agenda spread out on my hello kitty sheets -_- "watch out! we're gonna git you!" lol. I have no agenda and I hate politics, but I'm not blind to the fact that you have an obvious bias and bitterness...frankly, i'm a little scared by what you've said.

The only people that are angry about my "asian unity" and indifference to the west is you, joolee, and probably gatts...If you hate other asians that's fine, but why blindly defend everything the west has done? It makes you seem like you have no pride in korea and the only one who can "save korea from evil chinese communism" is america...it comes off as weak.

take a deep breadth, calm down, and reread what you've said...nobody is out to get you. It's all in your head. There's no secret plot by all chinese people to anally probe koreans and steal their land...nobody here wants to use you as a pawn...and there is no such thing as big-foot...


Say whatever you want, but regardless of your opinion, the Northeast Project did make Koreans bitter and distrustful of China, and simply dismissing this as some "social project" isn't going to cut it. I don't hate other Asians. Nor do I hate all Chinese. I just hate China and the advocates of Chinese government policy, such as yourself. And don't make your own presumptions on how much pride I take in my country. You are just being very disrespectful and bitter because your racial supremacist view has been thoroughly rejected in Korean Chat. Please just stay the fu-k out of Korean Chat, and take your race politics elsewhere.
donthate
QUOTE (SantaKlaws @ Sep 2 2009, 03:00 AM) *
Say whatever you want, but regardless of your opinion, the Northeast Project did make Koreans bitter and distrustful of China, and simply dismissing this as some "social project" isn't going to cut it. I don't hate other Asians. Nor do I hate all Chinese. I just hate China and the advocates of Chinese government policy, such as yourself. And don't make your own presumptions on how much pride I take in my country. You are just being very disrespectful and bitter because your racial supremacist view has been thoroughly rejected in Korean Chat. Please just stay the fu-k out of Korean Chat, and take your race politics elsewhere.


I don't care about the northeast project. If you want to bring politics into every conversation, do it in a politically themed K-chat thread, but not here. This thread is about inbalance in the moderation and you are going severely off topic.

I am not an advocate for the chinese goverment....I'm actually part of the gestapo lol. I don't know where you came up with "racial supremacy" in your head but I never ONCE said asians were superior. All I talked about was ASIAN UNITY. but if you equate asian unity=racial supremacy then that's your own problem and you need to stop thinking about these fanatical conspiracies.

My views were only rejected by you and joolee so get over it.

iluvlamp
QUOTE (kieshin @ Sep 2 2009, 05:57 PM) *
yes thats there tactics for centuries, however japan and korean unlikely to screw there own for whitey, but they will screw other azn for them, whilst chinese and SEA are known for screwing each other for whites for centuries
ethnic chinese spying china for white are all too common, rio tinto exec, an ethnic chinese from australia, spying china's steel industry secreet, costing china 700 billion yuan in damage and making his white employer rich in the expense of other chinese


I can't believe china would allow a spy to cost them so much right under their nose. In america they are so paranoid about chinese spies that they accuse and punish chinese americans who are innnocent.

Obviously the west cares more about china than china cares about them....so pathetic and desperate...

Although the above poster did not say it very tactfully, I do agree that asian unity, although hard, is the only solution to usurp western dominance and make life better for ALL asians and possibly blacks and hispanics.
BradPittJolie
co fu-king sign. Just the other day some mod b!tch gave me a warning for some bull$hit I jokingly said.

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"Then what's the problem paleskin chanky g@@k evil devil? I keep giving you compliments but yet you fu-kers keep oppressing my people and killing minorities.


This guy didn't even bother to take off my previous warning after so many fu-king months, but it's perfectly OK tack on the warnings on me just because I'm a "black Asian"

fu-king d!ckface yellow crackers.
AzNboii
lol whos tha mod bradpittjolie? i got a warning cus my avatar was too big or somin
BradPittJolie
I aint gonna say his name but it rhymes with "Haunt gays"
Captain Corea
Anyone else notice how it's usually the new trolls that complain the most? I guess they're getting tired of always having to create new accounts.

Here's a hint for your @$$; if you're new, play nice. If you start out flaiming on post one, you're going to get yourselves in trouble.
donthate
QUOTE (Captain Corea @ Sep 3 2009, 07:12 PM) *
Anyone else notice how it's usually the new trolls that complain the most? I guess they're getting tired of always having to create new accounts.

Here's a hint for your @$$; if you're new, play nice. If you start out flaiming on post one, you're going to get yourselves in trouble.


no one here that complained were "newbs" as you put it. This thread is for people who feel they have been unjustly accused. Absoulute power is not good and there should always be checks and balances. If people are afraid to speak out then we are no longer living in a free society. Obviously this thread is relevant or else it would have been shut down.

But don't you worry, once the bad mod's are found out things will be more fair and pleasant for everyone.
rvsp
I would like to praise the moderator for keeping the forum flame free. Keep up the good work!
SantaKlaws
LOL at donthate. He's right about one thing, he ain't no newb. He's a troll. biggrin.gif
Kaosq
This forum's too obsessed with race and genetics.
archaeologist
capt. corea is so funny. he is one of the false accusers and reports flaming whenthere is none taking place. he and a couple others use their posts to put words into the mouths of other members ensuring that the poster will get into trouble.

the other problem onhere is that the mods do not invesigate properly and solely take the words of c.c. and his friends. they forget that the american idea of 'it is how it is perceived' is not correct as that is pure subjectivism and existentialism, not the truth. the mods need to learn that it is 'how the author intended' the post to be that matters.

bowing to subjective opinions shows that the mods have no interest in justice or ruling fairly and that they ignore the accused and do not let them defend themselves.
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