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d2e
LEH (J&K): After helicopter
incursions into Indian airspace, the Chinese Army has brazenly violated the International Border in Ladakh region

and painted boulders and rocks in the area red.


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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/After-LAC-incursions-China-now-violates-Intl-Border-in-Ladakh/articleshow/4978371.cms


http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/sep/07/...n-in-ladakh.htm
Hafiz
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No Chinese army incursion
http://www.hindustantimes.com/No-Chinese-a...le1-453428.aspx

The ITBP on Sunday denied media reports that the Chinese army has made any incursion into the Uttarakhand border but said security forces were on high alert.

“We have not sighted any incursion by the Chinese army on the Indian side in Uttarakhand,” Indo-Tibeten Border Police DIG Sanjay Singhal said in Dehradun.

However, some civilians mostly shepherds usually come to Indian side during the monsoon season which is not an “unusual” thing on the Uttarakhand-Tibet border particularly in Barahoti area in Chamoli district, Singhal said.

Singhal said ITBP personnel are on high alert and keeping a close watch on the other side of the border.
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sinraptor
it appears that all they hysteria about India and China being at each others throat may be a figment of the imagination of the Indian media.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8258715.stm

It's the silly season in India-China relations. If you've tuned into one of the more hawkish Indian television channels or are reading the views of the many experts on India and China, it might seem like the two countries are at each other's throats.

There has been a spate of denials from the Indian foreign ministry, the border guards and even the Indian air force. All insist that there have been no clashes and no violations of Indian air space.

"A media report about two ITBP [Indo-Tibetan Border Police] jawans [soldiers] having been injured due to firing from across the Line of Actual Control has come to notice. It is factually incorrect," the Indian foreign ministry said in a statement on Tuesday.

And here is what the Chinese foreign ministry spokesman had to say about the same incident: "I have not heard of the scenario you mentioned... I have noticed, however, that Indian media has been releasing some groundless information recently. I wonder what their intention is."

'Without pause'

But China's concerns about accuracy do not seem to bother a large chunk of the Indian media, which is engaged in a rather serious bout of "China-bashing" these days.

Such China "stories" continue without pause.

Facts do not seem to matter as some Indian media organisations believe that this is the best way to grab a larger market share.

"Nothing has changed on the ground between the two countries," a senior Indian official, who preferred anonymity, told the BBC.



The Indian media has been reporting alleged incursions by Chinese soldiers
"I just can't understand the reasons for this hysteria," the official said.

China is India's largest trading partner, with two-way trade volumes crossing $50bn in 2008.

The two countries have been trying to negotiate a solution to their decades-old boundary dispute, a process which shows few signs of reaching fruition anytime soon.

There hasn't been a single fatality in skirmishes along the undefined India-China boundary since 1967, but the memories of the crushing defeat inflicted by the Chinese on India in the 1962 war have not faded from the minds of some Indians.

In a sense, the ghost of 1962 also has not been exorcised from the memories of a certain narrow, but influential, category of retired generals and diplomats, who still harbour ambitions of "giving it back to the Chinese".

Media war

In the last two decades - ever since a path-breaking visit by Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi to Beijing in 1988 - there has been a visible effort on the part of the two governments to try to narrow their differences.

A code was agreed on how patrol parties were to act in case they encountered each other.



Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visited China in 2006
These encounters do take place and the two sides have a specified drill in such cases, which appears to have worked well over the years.

But now, the threat to a stable India-China relationship is coming not from the governments, but from sections within the media.

If the largely private Indian media is belligerent about China, a response is beginning to emerge from the Chinese side as well.

"India likes to brag about its sustainable development, but worries that it is being left behind by China. China is seen in India as both a potential threat and a competitor to surpass," the state-run Global Times wrote in June this year.

In essence, a media war, initiated by a few Indian television channels and newspapers, has now been joined from the Chinese side as the Global Times opinion piece indicates.

Briefing editors of national dailies, a senior Indian official suggested that there was no point in the press showing any "hysteria".

Not many journalists, it would appear, want to listen to such suggestions.

Hafiz
QUOTE (sinraptor @ Sep 16 2009, 11:24 AM) *
it appears that all they hysteria about India and China being at each others throat may be a figment of the imagination of the Indian media.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8258715.stm

It's the silly season in India-China relations. If you've tuned into one of the more hawkish Indian television channels or are reading the views of the many experts on India and China, it might seem like the two countries are at each other's throats.

There has been a spate of denials from the Indian foreign ministry, the border guards and even the Indian air force. All insist that there have been no clashes and no violations of Indian air space.

"A media report about two ITBP [Indo-Tibetan Border Police] jawans [soldiers] having been injured due to firing from across the Line of Actual Control has come to notice. It is factually incorrect," the Indian foreign ministry said in a statement on Tuesday.

And here is what the Chinese foreign ministry spokesman had to say about the same incident: "I have not heard of the scenario you mentioned... I have noticed, however, that Indian media has been releasing some groundless information recently. I wonder what their intention is."

'Without pause'

But China's concerns about accuracy do not seem to bother a large chunk of the Indian media, which is engaged in a rather serious bout of "China-bashing" these days.

Such China "stories" continue without pause.

Facts do not seem to matter as some Indian media organisations believe that this is the best way to grab a larger market share.

"Nothing has changed on the ground between the two countries," a senior Indian official, who preferred anonymity, told the BBC.



The Indian media has been reporting alleged incursions by Chinese soldiers
"I just can't understand the reasons for this hysteria," the official said.

China is India's largest trading partner, with two-way trade volumes crossing $50bn in 2008.

The two countries have been trying to negotiate a solution to their decades-old boundary dispute, a process which shows few signs of reaching fruition anytime soon.

There hasn't been a single fatality in skirmishes along the undefined India-China boundary since 1967, but the memories of the crushing defeat inflicted by the Chinese on India in the 1962 war have not faded from the minds of some Indians.

In a sense, the ghost of 1962 also has not been exorcised from the memories of a certain narrow, but influential, category of retired generals and diplomats, who still harbour ambitions of "giving it back to the Chinese".

Media war

In the last two decades - ever since a path-breaking visit by Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi to Beijing in 1988 - there has been a visible effort on the part of the two governments to try to narrow their differences.

A code was agreed on how patrol parties were to act in case they encountered each other.



Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visited China in 2006
These encounters do take place and the two sides have a specified drill in such cases, which appears to have worked well over the years.

But now, the threat to a stable India-China relationship is coming not from the governments, but from sections within the media.

If the largely private Indian media is belligerent about China, a response is beginning to emerge from the Chinese side as well.

"India likes to brag about its sustainable development, but worries that it is being left behind by China. China is seen in India as both a potential threat and a competitor to surpass," the state-run Global Times wrote in June this year.

In essence, a media war, initiated by a few Indian television channels and newspapers, has now been joined from the Chinese side as the Global Times opinion piece indicates.

Briefing editors of national dailies, a senior Indian official suggested that there was no point in the press showing any "hysteria".

Not many journalists, it would appear, want to listen to such suggestions.



Indian Media is also hyping :

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sinraptor
it was part of the Indian media hyped that led to the 1962 war too as China offer peace many times by they refused due to nationalist groups within the media
d2e
[quote name='Hafiz' post='4334748' date='Sep 16 2009, 10:55 AM']Indian Media is also hyping :
India China war in October again?
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rupeenews.com
is a paki site u fool and since you are pakistani you must be knowing that.
apart from that i don't think indian and chinese government r fool to indulge in war since it will hamper economic growth in both country.
Our no.1 enemy is poverty both country should work toward improving economical and mutual relationship.
Hafiz
QUOTE (d2e @ Sep 17 2009, 10:28 AM) *
QUOTE (Hafiz @ Sep 16 2009, 10:55 AM) *
Indian Media is also hyping :
India China war in October again?

CODE
rupeenews.com
is a paki site u fool and since you are pakistani you must be knowing that.
apart from that i don't think indian and chinese government r fool to indulge in war since it will hamper economic growth in both country.
Our no.1 enemy is poverty both country should work toward improving economical and mutual relationship.



You J@ckRabbit :

Writing in Defence Today, a strategic journal, editor Bharat Verma claimed that China might make the move as early as October.
http://rupeenews.com/2009/09/15/india-chin...-october-again/

Bharat Verma is INDIAN !!!!

Nervous China may attack India by 2012: Expert
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/in...how/4769593.cms

d2e
rupeenews.com is run by idiot mullah on wordpress.com they don't even have server of their own to host news site. And they are known for publishing false anti india news.
Hafiz
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Media hype could create problems with China: NSA
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Media-hype-c...le3-455642.aspx

Seeking to downplay recent incursions by Chinese Army along the Line of Actual Control, National Security Advisor M K Narayanan on Saturday cautioned that media "hype" could lead to "unwarranted incident or accident" that could create problems with the neighbour.

He acknowledged that incursions were taking place but said there was "hardly any increase" in these activities and situation was not "alarming".

The NSA disagreed that China was trying to put pressure by saying "India of 2009 is not (India) of 1962" and said both nations are keen to maintain peace and transquility at the border.

"In terms of number of incursions, there has been hardly any increase. Occasionally inroads are a little deeper than what it might have been in the past. I don't think so that there is anything alarming about it. I think we have a good understanding about the whole issue," Narayanan told Karan Thapar on his Devil's Advocate programme on CNN-IBN.

"I really am unable to explain why there is being so much media hype on this question," he said.

Asked if over reaction by media could create problems, he replied in the affirmative and said," I have been through 1962. I was aware of the problem then.... What we need to be careful of is that we don't have an unwarranted incident or an accident of some kind.

"That's what we are trying to avoid. But there is always concern (that) if this thing (media hype) goes on like
this someone somewhere might lose his cool and something might go wrong."

Narayanan said too much of reporting on this issue could lead to increase in tensions leading to situation "we wish to avoid".

"I think it is a national security issue. It is not a kind of game that we are playing. The more you raise people's sort of concern, I mean the tensions would rise and then we would be facing a situation of a kind that we would wish to avoid," the NSA said.

He replied in the negative on whether there was a sense of appeasement or hesitation or fear in India when dealing with China.

"I was there in 1962 and I should be more conscious than anyone else. We are careful and I think it is important and imperative we do not want to get into a situation that we
don't want to be in," he said.

Narayanan, who is special representative from Indian side on border talks, said that after nine rounds of talks that he had with his Chinese counterpart Dai Bingguo "we are much more comfortable at this moment than let's say a year ago."

When asked about China not considering India as equals, the NSA said it wishes to be the numero uno in this part of the world.

"China certainly sees us as its rival and the issue is that they wish to be the numero uno in this part of the world," he said adding India is seen as a rising democratic power. "Therefore there is rivalry," he said.
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MangoMania
QUOTE (d2e @ Sep 17 2009, 09:28 AM) *
rupeenews.com is a paki site u fool and since you are pakistani you must be knowing that.
apart from that i don't think indian and chinese government r fool to indulge in war since it will hamper economic growth in both country.
Our no.1 enemy is poverty both country should work toward improving economical and mutual relationship.


he is not pakistani. he is chinese posing as pakistani.

everybody in the forum knows that. you can ask anyone icon_neutral.gif
Hafiz
QUOTE (MangoMania @ Sep 20 2009, 03:24 AM) *
he is not pakistani. he is chinese posing as pakistani.

everybody in the forum knows that. you can ask anyone icon_neutral.gif


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