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chiuchimu


http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/i...E5891J520090910

Given that China and North Korea are allies and North Korea wants to negotiate with Japan, is increasing a standoff-ish attitude a smart thing to do?

I think Japan should tone down its position concerning NK and start talks again.
Eastern_Knight
North Korea is falling apart, their trying to project the image that they are strong and advanced to maintain their image both domestic and abroad.
They really aren't dumb enough to actually try to nuke/bomb Japan, its a sad attempt to sound crazy enough to get more aid. the best thing for the 5 members is to ignore North Korea and just go around them.
chiuchimu
QUOTE (Eastern_Knight @ Sep 10 2009, 09:33 PM) *
North Korea is falling apart, their trying to project the image that they are strong and advanced to maintain their image both domestic and abroad.
They really aren't dumb enough to actually try to nuke/bomb Japan, its a sad attempt to sound crazy enough to get more aid. the best thing for the 5 members is to ignore North Korea and just go around them.



If giving aid helps the North Korean people and gets the ball rolling for real talks than I'm all for it. I've posted news that uncovered how Japan spends billions of dollars( no exaggeration here ) on stuff the U.S. wants us to pay for - most of it so ridiculous its sicking. I think we can stop paying the U.S. and divert some of that money to help NK.

IMO So many events are happening to make a true Asian Union finally a reality: the grow of China and Korea, The re-alignment of Japan, the emergence of SEA and the shrinking of U.S. influence. This is a once in a life time chance. I really hope our Governments don't miss this up.
Eastern_Knight
QUOTE (chiuchimu @ Sep 11 2009, 01:49 PM) *
If giving aid helps the North Korean people and gets the ball rolling for real talks than I'm all for it. I've posted news that uncovered how Japan spends billions of dollars( no exaggeration here ) on stuff the U.S. wants us to pay for - most of it so ridiculous its sicking. I think we can stop paying the U.S. and divert some of that money to help NK.

IMO So many events are happening to make a true Asian Union finally a reality: the grow of China and Korea, The re-alignment of Japan, the emergence of SEA and the shrinking of U.S. influence. This is a once in a life time chance. I really hope our Governments don't miss this up.


South Korea has been giving aid to the North for YEARS now, they just give it to the military and don't feed the people, its incredibly frustrating but that what happens with a Stalinist dictatorship. The only realistic option is to cause an internal revolution via any means necessary or external military force from ROK forces.

unification is inevitable though, its just making sure that China doesn't catapult everything by trying to invade North Korea China's North East History project is something to be concerned about especially for South Korea. That said I hope for a strong Asian union to ensure our societies become destroyed like western societies are.
foi2
QUOTE (Eastern_Knight @ Sep 11 2009, 09:40 AM) *
South Korea has been giving aid to the North for YEARS now, they just give it to the military and don't feed the people, its incredibly frustrating but that what happens with a Stalinist dictatorship. The only realistic option is to cause an internal revolution via any means necessary or external military force from ROK forces.

unification is inevitable though, its just making sure that China doesn't catapult everything by trying to invade North Korea China's North East History project is something to be concerned about especially for South Korea. That said I hope for a strong Asian union to ensure our societies become destroyed like western societies are.


Have to agree that reunification is probably inevitable in the long run. I honestly don't think China should be too much against that either, if it can ensure that its existing territories will not be threatened. The first order of business though, would be to settle all the territory disputes between the countries. The dokdo/takeshima thing will need to be settled, as will the senkaku/diaoyutai islands. Once the territory disputes are settled, then there's little reason for hostilities, because all the Asian nations will be too economically integrated at that point to risk war (not to mention impractical, especially when a nuclear capable nation is involved).
chiuchimu
QUOTE (Eastern_Knight @ Sep 11 2009, 08:40 AM) *
South Korea has been giving aid to the North for YEARS now, they just give it to the military and don't feed the people, its incredibly frustrating but that what happens with a Stalinist dictatorship. The only realistic option is to cause an internal revolution via any means necessary or external military force from ROK forces.

unification is inevitable though, its just making sure that China doesn't catapult everything by trying to invade North Korea China's North East History project is something to be concerned about especially for South Korea. That said I hope for a strong Asian union to ensure our societies become destroyed like western societies are.



QUOTE (foi2 @ Sep 11 2009, 08:35 PM) *
Have to agree that reunification is probably inevitable in the long run. I honestly don't think China should be too much against that either, if it can ensure that its existing territories will not be threatened. The first order of business though, would be to settle all the territory disputes between the countries. The dokdo/takeshima thing will need to be settled, as will the senkaku/diaoyutai islands. Once the territory disputes are settled, then there's little reason for hostilities, because all the Asian nations will be too economically integrated at that point to risk war (not to mention impractical, especially when a nuclear capable nation is involved).


Its great that the three of us here, each representing one of the big three nations in Asia, can come together peacefully and talk positively about creating strong bonds. Not only amongst ourselves but, including the welfare of all of Asia. Its up to the people in charge to carried it out now.


Eastern_Knight
I get all fuzzy inside when we talk about such issues. icon_smile.gif
foi2
QUOTE (chiuchimu @ Sep 11 2009, 09:02 PM) *
Its great that the three of us here, each representing one of the big three nations in Asia, can come together peacefully and talk positively about creating strong bonds. Not only amongst ourselves but, including the welfare of all of Asia. Its up to the people in charge to carried it out now.


err, I'm actually japanese, even though I post in the chinese forum a lot because it's a more dynamic forum and I know a lotta chinese folks. In fact, I'm posting this from my sister's boyfriend's comp, who happens to be chinese. His best friend is korean. It's funny how we all get along once we're away from asia all of a sudden we see the big picture and stop fighting amongst ourselves.
Mid-Night_Sun
LOL, well im chinese and i agree. please continue embarassedlaugh.gif
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