Police confirm Noordin’s death

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Police confirm Noordin’s death

The Jakarta Post , Jakarta | Thu, 09/17/2009 4:30 PM | National

National Police Chief Gen. Bambang Hendarso Danuri confirmed on Thursday the death of most wanted terror suspect Noordin M. Top in an exchange of fire during a raid on a house in the Central Java town of Solo earlier in the day.

“The fingerprints we took from one of the terror suspects' bodies matched those of Noordin that we obtained from Malaysia. We found similarity in at least 14 minutiae points, which is a justifiable proof,” Bambang told a media conference at the National Police Headquarters.

He added that the police were still waiting for results of the DNA test performed at the police hospital to further confirm Noordin’s death.

“We expect the results will come up within 30 hours,” he said.

Noordin was among four terror suspects shot dead in the raid. Other suspects were identified as bomb maker Bagus Budi Pranoto, Susilo alias Adit and Aryo Sudarso alias Aji, who was Noordin’s protégé.


Congrats, Densus 88

Let him rot in hell.

What can i say.....

Congrats ? Good job.

phew...lega...but we shall not let our guards down since he still has some people out there

Its official...., Noordin M Top is dead...
I heard from reporter in my office in 11.AM finger print test of the body confirmed he is Noordin.
Rest In Hell encik Noor...!

Headline of Warta Kota crack me out: "Noordin Mudik ke Akherat"...

They got the murderer.
I was at my parents' house when the news came on the TV.
My mother commented that perhaps now the authorities can address the underlaying causes which produce such terrorists.
But to an extent I begin to think that the urge to hurt others is a part of Human nature, which becomes a dominant characteristic in some individuals and they just latch onto an extremist cause to justify their aggressive tendencies.

^ peeps have a choice and can choose to hurt/kill/bomb other peeps or not. in the case of human nature, the scumbag noordin is a coward madman i pray he would reincarnate to his realself as a cockroach.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asi...Noordin-Roundup
Wife wants Malaysian burial for slain militant Noordin (Roundup)
Asia-Pacific News

Sep 18, 2009, 5:40 GMT

Kuala Lumpur - The wife of slain Islamic militant Noordin Mohammed Top said she wishes to bury her husband in his homeland of the southern Malaysian state of Johor, the woman's father was quoted as saying in a news report Friday.

The father-in-law of South-East Asia's most wanted suspected terrorist told the Star newspaper that Noordin's death came as no surprise, adding that his family had lost all contact with him more than eight years ago.

Noordin, blamed for a string of deadly terrorist attacks in Indonesia since 2003, was killed with three other people Thursday when Indonesian police raided a house in Central Java province.

'We were always prepared for such an outcome, especially after the last time when he was suspected to have been killed,' Rusdi Hamid, 67, said.

The man who once called himself the leader of al-Qaeda in the Malay archipelago was initially believed to have been slain in an attack by Indonesian police last month. However, DNA tests later revealed the victim was not Noordin.

Rusdi, who has fiercely protected the identity of his daughter and her three children, aged 8 to 10, said she wished to bury her husband - a former religious school principle who is believed to have gone into hiding in Indonesia in 2003 - on Malaysian soil.

'Even after eight years, my daughter still wishes for him to be buried here now that it is confirmed that he was killed,' Rushdi was quoted as saying. 'My daughter and grandchildren had to live without him, but thankfully, they are used to the situation.'

'We will carry on without him,' he said.

Malaysian Home Affairs Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said he was 'sad' at the news of Noordin's death while acknowledging Noordin was responsible for countless innocent deaths.

'What he did was wrong,' the minister was quoted as saying by the Star. 'We don't condone what he did. I am sad that we did not get to rehabilitate him like we have done with many others.

'I am sad because a life is a life.'

Among the attacks Noordin was accused of was Indonesia's latest, the July 17 bombings of two Jakarta luxury hotels, which killed nine people.

Terrorism experts said Noordin was a key financier and recruiter for the Jemaah Islamiyah militant group, blamed for attacks in Indonesia from 2000 to 2003 that killed hundreds of people, including the 2002 and 2005 Bali bombings. He later formed his own, more violent organization after disagreements with more moderate militants within Jemaah Islamiyah.

Better rotten in malaysia I suppose, otherwise there'll be people who look at the sky trying to find mystical sign from crows again.

I dunno, its seem good idea to send him back to Malaysia.
However I think its better idea just to burry him somewhere in unknown and unidentified grave to avoid his grave being sanctified by twisted extremist as martir's grave.

OK I do not want to be the "evil" guy but why didn't they capture him ? I'm beginning to have the impression that Densus 88 is more like a elimination squad than a law enforcer and seeing some similarities between this and the retaliations against "Boko Haram" in Nigeria. Maybe we are using excessive force ? I would rather like it better for him to be captured.
Maybe when we are told more details, it could clear up the impression that I have of Densus 88.

I hope we don't have the mentality of "killing solves everything" cause that would make us as bad as the motherfu-ker there.

^Are you saying that Noordin had served the purpose of whoever those in the dark/dalang
So it’s now the time that he must be silenced before it’s too late?

It is good to have idealism such you mention. I'd rather, however, think straightforward. I think the police has "red list". The targets are preferred to be killed than captured alive. Reasons: waste of money and political energy. As long as not excessive as with PKI in 1966-1967, in the sense that only the masterminds are killed, I accept that. I don't know about Boko Haram comparison, but remember The Chasing of Premans /"gali") in the early 1980's ? That was effective. You know, it is like curing cancer before it spreads. Do you know how much money we spend for the deradicalisation project (without any assurance that this will succeed) ? And see what happens with the one who died yesterday: he was just released 2007 and soon engaged himself in bombing arrangement.

Some people just dont know the language of just (see how silly Abu Jibril was when he talked about human rights: they know human rights only when their interests are in danger); and it goes for these right-wing bastards, too.



Yes you are right. It is about eliminating influence.

@ Joe
what !?!? no....far from that I believe.

What I'm trying to do is to question the actions of Densus 88. Why is it that most of the terrorist they are suppose to catch end up dead ?.
I would like to see Noordin to be captured and sentenced than him end up in hell. Sure he will be executed anyway but the effort of bringing him to court, having a fair trial and sentenced does mean something for many people. It symbolises many things, one is that Indonesians do not just jump into conclusions and shoots an accused terrorist. I'd like to think we are a society ruled by laws not guns.

However comes the possibility that he might endanger Densus 88 personnel that he had to be shot, that's fine but I think we the public need to know what happened there. Even though he is a terrorist and we all (hopefully) hated him, he still needs to be brought to court and let the law decide his fate. It's a pity that he died.

If you could not understand that as well Joe, then I'm officially influenced by alcohol. So my bad.



Sorry I'm not familiar with the "Chasing of the Premans" in the 1980s, I wasn't born yet. I will look into it tho.
Well I do not like think that it is an "ideal" because it can be achieve while an ideal has a connotation of being "almost impossible", It's more like a fundamental of society.
I do agree that we need to put a bit of realism into dealing this but I still believe if the killing ( becomes murder perhaps ?) was unnecessary it should not happen. Just because a person is in the "red list" it should not become the basis of the killing (I'm having trouble describing what happened, a killing, a murder or an execution ?)

I guess it is not wise to discuss anything more since we are not sure of what actually happened, then maybe we can argue on the justification of the killing of Noordin M Top.

Btw in the Indonesian context I think the "cancer" has already spread, it's a matter of isolating and eliminating it ( without excessive force of course )

Agree.



You can start by listening to Iwan Fals' "Sugali".





It is almost impossible to catch him alive (Noordin always wears a vest bomb, I heard).


In the name of common security, a red list is justified. Totally wrong, however, using human rights perspective or when public actually not 100pct support you (as in Munir's case).


The good (or bad) news is, terror ideology (say "Khawarij"-ism or "assassinism") behaves not exactly as cancer. We may fight them, physically. They proclaim the war in the first time, dont they?

^Hmmm ok

So anyone know what actually happened there ?

are the suicide bombers from malaysia too?

It is the police, esp Densus 88 troops. (oh ... and the other three captives, who, curiously, out of sight from eyes of the journalists. Where are they and how are they going? Probably some intelligent?).

Maybe we are to a certain extent, like Stalin describe once upon a time ago, "dizzy with success" but anyway didn't they die ?

Four dead and three captured, alive. Of the three: one is the pregnant woman who was shot at the knee, and two others, where are they now?? Losing their nails ?

NMT is not terrorist .. He is hero ... not only for Islam ,, but also for Malaysian, especially malays ...

Don't be surprised if another JI militant Mas Selamat Kastari ‘happy' to be detained in Malaysia because our gov't treat him like king ...

^ I read Sg paper, he claimed that sg abused him when he was a detainee. If NMT really died as a martyr, he better be granted with perpetual erection or else those virgins will be useless. Jk. Anyway, deep condolences for the family of the deceased.

That made my night....LOL

Well maybe the media is truly "dizzy with success".

So, now the waves of rejection from people to bury the bodies of the deaths in their place is raising. From humanity point of view this is a disgrace. No one has the right to reject a body to be buried, everywhere. However, people do not want their place associated with terrorism. Again, this is another homework to our "ulama"s to teach the right spirit of Islam. Seems they fail again. This is the result of teaching religion without humanity pespective.

not for faint hearted toward young brainwashed teenager :



bonus to keep ur grief away ....

his body should be burnt to dust and thrown to the sea.

Agreed with ya...

Bravo Zulu Detachment 88.

I suspect there was foreign involvement with the Intel-OPS yes?

Dr Mun'im: Noordin sering disodomi

Ahli forensik Dr Mun'im Idris tetap yakin kalau gembong teroris yang telah tewas Noordin M Top sering disodomi. Noordin tidak menyembunyikan bahan peledak di anusnya seperti yang dilakukan teroris di Arab Saudi.

Kepastian Noordin disodomi tampak dari pemeriksaan otot lingkar anus gembong teroris asal Malaysia itu yang sudah rusak.

"Ilmu forensik itu ilmu pasti. Kita mencari kepastian hukum dan itu nggak pakai kata mungkin. Ada terminologi khususnya. Itu sudah dilihat dari otot lingkar duburnya yang sudah rusak," kata dr Mun'im Idris kepada detikcom, Kamis (2/9/2009).

Menurut Mun'im, bentuk corong yang ada di anus Noordin menunjukkan pria itu memang sudah lama dan sering disodomi. "Kalau dilakukan hanya beberapa kali, nggak mungkin bentuknya seperti itu. Itu sudah lama dan sering," tegasnya.

Menyembunyikan bahan peledak pernah dilakukan seorang teroris yang akan membunuh Keluarga Kerajaan Arab Saudi, Pangeran Mohamed Bin Nafey. Dilansir Newsweek akhir September 2009 lalu, menyembunyikan bahan peledak di anus merupakan modus baru teroris dengan tujuan agar tidak terdeteksi detektor metal. (detik)

^^^ Wow... a closetted bottom terrorist...
I'm sure he's love to BLOW things up....

good job!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htA64ipVXoA

video

Royal Malaysian Police Monitors the burial of Terrorist Noordin Top 2009



A Malaysian police officer stands guard on the way to the cemetary where slain Islamist militant leader Noordin Mohammed Top's grave is being dug up in Pontian district of southern Johor state of Malaysia on October 2, 2009.

^^^ The good thing is Malaysian police put such security measures...
I hate to see untastefull incidents like in Java when fundamentalist are shouting "Allahu Akbar" during Imam Samudra's and Amrozi's burial ceremonies (both are executed Bali bomber terrorist). That surely gave distorted view of martyrdom in Islam