lilzz
Sep 22 2009, 10:58 AM
Many anti-china activism groups have exploded on the scene in recent memories, all getting on that train ride.
They did their things, yelling and screaming.
Their favorite phase is "We have to let world community to know about it. We have to shine a spotlight on them"
Well they had their fun and all.
But They have overdone it. And it start to sound B-O-R-I-N-G. yeah, world community had overdose of that already and people are starting to lose interest on same $hit again and again.
I have noticed many anti-china activism groups recently are losing steam, running out things to say. Slowly, too many of them oversaturate the news media and the goose that laying the eggs is beginning to die.
sinraptor
Sep 22 2009, 11:58 AM
some of the largest emotional vomitting came from them
Mid-Night_Sun
Sep 22 2009, 12:23 PM
they will find new things

i hope they do also. its better if Chinese in China get exposed to this.
i actually would hate it if everyone PRETENDED to like China. then China has to PRETEND to like them back. it will only get awkward when interests collide. its like gossip girls LOL. fuk that.
however if everyone knows where they stand, its all good.
lilzz
Sep 22 2009, 12:48 PM
QUOTE (Mid-Night_Sun @ Sep 22 2009, 12:23 PM)

they will find new things

They will find but impact won't top 2008 when the Olympics event, and people got overdosage of their anti-china rants. The impact won't be same ever again. especially after this financial meltdown.
People now know finding jobs and put food on table are way more important than those activisms.
Useless.
Their strongest momentum has already passed. Barnone.
Let me list a few of those groups,
The tibetan group, the darfur group, the uighurs group, falun gong group, and behind them the western supporting groups. and some other minor groups such as Vietnamese nationalist group, korean nationalist group, the mongolian nazi group, Free Burma group...etc
They all jumped in and pitched in their voices...They had their fun..
Mid-Night_Sun
Sep 22 2009, 04:04 PM
QUOTE (lilzz @ Sep 22 2009, 02:48 PM)

They will find but impact won't top 2008 when the Olympics event, and people got overdosage of their anti-china rants. The impact won't be same ever again. especially after this financial meltdown.
People now know finding jobs and put food on table are way more important than those activisms.
Useless.
Their strongest momentum has already passed. Barnone.
Let me list a few of those groups,
The tibetan group, the darfur group, the uighurs group, falun gong group, and behind them the western supporting groups. and some other minor groups such as Vietnamese nationalist group, korean nationalist group, the mongolian nazi group, Free Burma group...etc
They all jumped in and pitched in their voices...They had their fun..
hehe, their peak influence could increase 10 fold and i still dont think a single thing would change in China.
they can accomplish NOTHING on their side. even with a super saiyan increase.
however, they can do a lot for Chinese. they act like a slap to the face of delusional Chinese who have sheltered or media generated views of the rest of the world. they push Chinese to be more unified.
its a beautiful situation, so i say +oil to them
Flowerseed
Sep 22 2009, 06:02 PM
The issue of sinophobia is not that simple and I doubt that it will disappear anytime soon, and the situation right now is not bad actually as those anti china groups/individuals can do nothing but make hot air. Remember the time when china is in chaos and destruction when countless chinese people fled their home and take refuge in various places in the world? Thats when the things were the ugliest, jealoursy and fear because they are hard working and their accomplishment, just decades ago such emotions led to discrimination against those chinese people wherever they goes, from southeast asia to america or to australia, and there was nobody they can ask for help, comparing with those times one can only smile at todays situation.
boobu
Sep 22 2009, 06:09 PM
some of it is legitimate and china has done some really dumb moves. when you are a close trading partner long-term, you want it to be more on equal footing.
the human and animal rights issues, spotty quality control, pollution (hurts chinese the most) etc is going to wear thin on your trading partner. so it's inevitable that america will not like china even though they will find reasons despite that. it's like a marriage or association, what one does means something to the other especially if it's very abhorent to their values such as the animal rights issues that many have a problem with china and can demonize them for it. it's how much china is willing to look at what is wrong or worth changing even for themselves and what is just cultural prejudice. for instance, i don't agree with skinning or torturing animals alive etc. as far as different types of cuisine the west can shut it, that's not important.
the other major thing is walmart. people do actually not like walmart and feel forced to shop there because of price, of course this is not just china's fault but what's keeping this tethered is china's buying thier debt. this is not an ideal situation and with the recession and general unhappiness of americans, it doesn't look good.
i'm sure china is aware of all this though. china needs to get in the process of not needing to depend on america or be tied to her so much.
lilzz
Sep 22 2009, 06:18 PM
I hope they will keep piling on.. bring it on......soon or later people will become desensitize by the whole thing.
then it will become crap , here we go again.
sinraptor
Sep 22 2009, 07:46 PM
i agree, sooner the reality check the better prepared Chinese will be
newties21
Sep 22 2009, 09:23 PM
What is the real basis of this negative sentiments toward China?
The answer can be found in two basic fundamental reasons:
1. anti - "other"
China and the Chinese civilization is very different from them (Western people) and that is why they will NEVER get comfortable with China, no matter what, and even if China brainwashes itself to be 100% complete carbon coy of Western society, still cannot be on equal footing or in a love relation, because they cannot paint their face white.
This is something that people need to understand.
Their anti China sentiment is not new either, in the 80s it was the anti-Japanese sentiment, a resentment, fear, of the upcoming Japanese economic empire, resentment against the buying of some landmarks in USA by Japanese companies, and so on.
China is the replacement for Japan, and 10x worse, because supposedly it will grow to become a giant powerful country, a potential rival, a challenger, so they dont like China.
If Chinese companies want to buy some assets in USA, lots of anti-"other" sentiments and noises get toot-tooted, because they dont like Asians and yellow people, and they disdain them and want to push them aside.
Do you remember the Budweiser beer company, Ansher-Beutch or something, it is a perfect icon of the American culture, a darling, a real jewel, and some foreigner want to buy it, there was some noises, but in the end the transaction went ahead, because of what..? Because the foreign company is Belgian, so they allowed it.
This is the key difference, if the company is not European or Belgian, imagine if it is Chinese,....or other Asian countries, they will put 1001 obstacles to cancel the deal.
Even Obama himself, a black man, or should I say a half-white half-black but pushed by the Whites to adopt a full black identity, in his campaign speech promise to bring jobs to America and not let car manufactures be done in Japan and South Korea. He explicitly mentioned these 2 names, Japan and South Korea, because in the American mindset they are still considered as foreign "other" meanwhile JohnMcCain explicitly said Saudis dont like them very much but Canadians are Ok people, so they can get oil from Canada, it's Ok.
So you need to understand what is the real underlying basis of this anti-China groups and ideologies, it is because they just dont like the "other" and especially China as a prominent major nation will make them feel discomfort. This is fundamental and cannot be changed.
2. geopolitics
The other reason why anti China sentiments get aired and encouraged and cheered, is due to geopolitics. Lots of the so-called "NGOs" are not really innocent NGOs but proxies and semi-governmental, and funded by secret channels.
It's also the same with the propaganda and news articles in the mass media. That is why you will see some anti-China sentiments, because that is the result, it's due to some key sectors being controlled by the government and they whip up and feed the food which causes the results.
So some of the disturbances and attacks against China are not even real 100%, maybe 50%-80% are manufactured and hyped up issues, but they use it anyways, as a weapon and as a sabotage against China.
In this case I also dont think there will be any changes, USA will continue to use covert and overt operations to undermine China. They want to put down a potential challenger, they want to place obstacles and make the other person trip and fall down, so that they can maintain their position. This is something that cannot be changed fundamentally also.
iamtwytia
Sep 24 2009, 08:58 AM
Hmm, some interesting comments here, especially newties comments. I am Australian (ethnically Chinese) and, like any other country, I both like and dislike some aspects of China.
Sometimes the Chinese government does take questionable actions, and I think it's fair that people judge China for that. Just because someone says something negative about China, it does not always mean they are always anti-China.
However, I do agree that there are people who always anti-China. But, there are also people who are always pro-China. Both these types of people are equally annoying.
metalhead
Sep 26 2009, 04:16 AM
Maybe we've just lost interest in anti-china activism. Because the majority of time it's just ill educated nationalists who think we're still communist and eat dogs. However, I welcome criticisms that people have about China, especially if they have a genuine concern and are able to criticize in a pragmatic, objective way.
MiCC
Oct 15 2009, 11:01 PM
good way for chinese people know that western countries are not their friend, keep going haters.
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