QUOTE (retaxis @ Oct 5 2009, 07:14 AM)

formally is when the taiwanese tell the chinese that they are a separate country and no one can interfere in their affairs. So far i have yet to see that happen.
Formally is when it is reported in the news media over and over again. Repeated by the country's presidents lee, chen, annette lu over and over again.
What part of this don't you understand?
Why are you pretending not to hear it??