http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chindian
"A Chindian is a person of both Chinese and Indian ancestry. There are a considerable number of Chindians in Malaysia and Singapore, where people of Chinese and Indian origin immigrated in large numbers during the 19th century. There are also a sizable number living in Hong Kong.."
"In Malaysia and Singapore, the majority of interracial marriages occur between Chinese and Indians. The offspring of such marriages are informally known as "Chindian". The Malaysian government, however, only classifies them by their fathers' ethnicity. As the majority of these intermarriages usually involve an Indian groom and Chinese bride, the majority of Chindian offspring in Malaysia are usually classified as "Indian" by the Malaysian government.."
Full Version: Chinese mixed with Indian: Chindian
★Acquisition of Citizenship*
Specifically there are two systems in which nationality is conferred
1) citizenship by descent (血統主義＝ketto shugi), which is based on one or both parent's nationality or
2) citizenship by country of birth(生地主義＝seichi shugi) which the place of birth is the deciding factor in a child's nationality and not the parent's nationality per say.
Citizenship in Japan (and France for example) is based on the former (1), whereas the United States, Canada and Brazil base citizenship on the country of birth (2). Exceptions occur in the case that a child is born abroad to U.S., Canadian or Brazilian parents. In this situation, the child's nationality is conferred by descent depending on the parent's residency status in their home country. For example, a child born in the United States to Japanese parents has both U.S. and Japanese nationality until age 20; whereas a child born in Japan to two U.S. citizens is a citizen of the United States only.
Up until 1984 Japan was a patriarchal society meaning that nationality could only be conferred through a Japanese father, not a Japanese mother. Per amendments made to the Nationality Law in 1984, nationality is now based on the child's parents' citizenship; therefore if one parent (male or female) or both of the child's parents are Japanese then the child automatically has Japanese nationality at the time of birth.
★A Child Born Between a Japanese and a Foreign National
For children born between a Japanese and a foreigner, nationality will be decided by the laws of Japan, the foreign country, and the country where a child is born, so it is possible for a child to have dual or even triple-nationality.
- Acquisition of nationality by an Acknowledged Child
Article 3 of the Nationality Law was changed (and simplified) on January 1, 2008.
"A child (excluding a child who was once a Japanese national) under twenty years of age whose father or mother has acknowledged paternity or maternity respectively , may acquire Japanese nationality through a notification to the Minister of Justice, if the father or mother who made the acknowledgement was a Japanese national at the time of the child's birth, and such father or mother is presently a Japanese national or was a Japanese national at the time of his or her death."
- the original Japanese version of the law can be found here.
★Acquiring Citizenship through Naturalization
In the case one's biological parents do not marry it is possible to acquire Japanese citizenship through naturalization. If a biological father recognizes the child after birth, the regulations are eased to allow the child of a Japanese citizen to be naturalized. As such, a child can apply for nationalization "as a child of a Japanese". In the case a father refuses to legitimize a child the case can be taken to court and with the decision of a judicial panel the biological father can be forced to legitimize the child.
★Family Registers
Like China and Korea, Japan records familial information in what is called "koseki"（戸籍 = family register). All information regarding, birth, marriage, divorce, residence, and death are recorded on this registry and kept at one's city, ward, or local government office. Only Japanese have family registers or can be legally registered in them. A foreign spouse of a Japanese is noted as such in the spouse's family registry (in the section called mibun-jiko-ran＝身分事項欄).
A child born to a Japanese (father or mother) and a foreigner (mother or father) will be listed in their Japanese parent's family registry.
★Notes:
"Nationality" and "citizenship" are used throughout the article, however the concept of citizenship as used here currently does not exist as a legal term in Japanese. In Japan the concept of citizenship is correctly and only referred to as nationality (国籍＝kokuseki). Please be aware that the term citizenship is used to refer to nationality in this article.
http://www.nic-nagoya.or.jp/en/dailyliving...nationality.htm
Specifically there are two systems in which nationality is conferred
1) citizenship by descent (血統主義＝ketto shugi), which is based on one or both parent's nationality or
2) citizenship by country of birth(生地主義＝seichi shugi) which the place of birth is the deciding factor in a child's nationality and not the parent's nationality per say.
Citizenship in Japan (and France for example) is based on the former (1), whereas the United States, Canada and Brazil base citizenship on the country of birth (2). Exceptions occur in the case that a child is born abroad to U.S., Canadian or Brazilian parents. In this situation, the child's nationality is conferred by descent depending on the parent's residency status in their home country. For example, a child born in the United States to Japanese parents has both U.S. and Japanese nationality until age 20; whereas a child born in Japan to two U.S. citizens is a citizen of the United States only.
Up until 1984 Japan was a patriarchal society meaning that nationality could only be conferred through a Japanese father, not a Japanese mother. Per amendments made to the Nationality Law in 1984, nationality is now based on the child's parents' citizenship; therefore if one parent (male or female) or both of the child's parents are Japanese then the child automatically has Japanese nationality at the time of birth.
★A Child Born Between a Japanese and a Foreign National
For children born between a Japanese and a foreigner, nationality will be decided by the laws of Japan, the foreign country, and the country where a child is born, so it is possible for a child to have dual or even triple-nationality.
- Acquisition of nationality by an Acknowledged Child
Article 3 of the Nationality Law was changed (and simplified) on January 1, 2008.
"A child (excluding a child who was once a Japanese national) under twenty years of age whose father or mother has acknowledged paternity or maternity respectively , may acquire Japanese nationality through a notification to the Minister of Justice, if the father or mother who made the acknowledgement was a Japanese national at the time of the child's birth, and such father or mother is presently a Japanese national or was a Japanese national at the time of his or her death."
- the original Japanese version of the law can be found here.
★Acquiring Citizenship through Naturalization
In the case one's biological parents do not marry it is possible to acquire Japanese citizenship through naturalization. If a biological father recognizes the child after birth, the regulations are eased to allow the child of a Japanese citizen to be naturalized. As such, a child can apply for nationalization "as a child of a Japanese". In the case a father refuses to legitimize a child the case can be taken to court and with the decision of a judicial panel the biological father can be forced to legitimize the child.
★Family Registers
Like China and Korea, Japan records familial information in what is called "koseki"（戸籍 = family register). All information regarding, birth, marriage, divorce, residence, and death are recorded on this registry and kept at one's city, ward, or local government office. Only Japanese have family registers or can be legally registered in them. A foreign spouse of a Japanese is noted as such in the spouse's family registry (in the section called mibun-jiko-ran＝身分事項欄).
A child born to a Japanese (father or mother) and a foreigner (mother or father) will be listed in their Japanese parent's family registry.
★Notes:
"Nationality" and "citizenship" are used throughout the article, however the concept of citizenship as used here currently does not exist as a legal term in Japanese. In Japan the concept of citizenship is correctly and only referred to as nationality (国籍＝kokuseki). Please be aware that the term citizenship is used to refer to nationality in this article.
http://www.nic-nagoya.or.jp/en/dailyliving...nationality.htm
QUOTE (TheLogic @ Oct 6 2009, 07:05 PM) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chindian
"A Chindian is a person of both Chinese and Indian ancestry. There are a considerable number of Chindians in Malaysia and Singapore, where people of Chinese and Indian origin immigrated in large numbers during the 19th century. There are also a sizable number living in Hong Kong.."
"In Malaysia and Singapore, the majority of interracial marriages occur between Chinese and Indians. The offspring of such marriages are informally known as "Chindian". The Malaysian government, however, only classifies them by their fathers' ethnicity. As the majority of these intermarriages usually involve an Indian groom and Chinese bride, the majority of Chindian offspring in Malaysia are usually classified as "Indian" by the Malaysian government.."
"A Chindian is a person of both Chinese and Indian ancestry. There are a considerable number of Chindians in Malaysia and Singapore, where people of Chinese and Indian origin immigrated in large numbers during the 19th century. There are also a sizable number living in Hong Kong.."
"In Malaysia and Singapore, the majority of interracial marriages occur between Chinese and Indians. The offspring of such marriages are informally known as "Chindian". The Malaysian government, however, only classifies them by their fathers' ethnicity. As the majority of these intermarriages usually involve an Indian groom and Chinese bride, the majority of Chindian offspring in Malaysia are usually classified as "Indian" by the Malaysian government.."
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The offsprings of a Indian-chinese couple are also called Peranakans.. Chetty peranakans if i am not mistaken..
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Oct 8 2009, 12:33 PM)
The offsprings of a Indian-chinese couple are also called Peranakans.. Chetty peranakans if i am not mistaken..
They aren't indian-chinese but chinese-austronesian(Malay,indonesian) ancestry.
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Oct 8 2009, 12:33 PM)
The offsprings of a Indian-chinese couple are also called Peranakans.. Chetty peranakans if i am not mistaken..
If chinese and indian mix is called chindian....how about one legged in malaysia and one legged in Spore
Dei sista.....I am hoping to start yoga pretty soon....wanna give me tips dear
QUOTE (elleX0 @ Oct 7 2009, 05:27 PM)
★Acquisition of Citizenship*
Specifically there are two systems in which nationality is conferred
1) citizenship by descent (血統主義＝ketto shugi), which is based on one or both parent's nationality or
2) citizenship by country of birth(生地主義＝seichi shugi) which the place of birth is the deciding factor in a child's nationality and not the parent's nationality per say.
Citizenship in Japan (and France for example) is based on the former (1), whereas the United States, Canada and Brazil base citizenship on the country of birth (2). Exceptions occur in the case that a child is born abroad to U.S., Canadian or Brazilian parents. In this situation, the child's nationality is conferred by descent depending on the parent's residency status in their home country. For example, a child born in the United States to Japanese parents has both U.S. and Japanese nationality until age 20; whereas a child born in Japan to two U.S. citizens is a citizen of the United States only.
Up until 1984 Japan was a patriarchal society meaning that nationality could only be conferred through a Japanese father, not a Japanese mother. Per amendments made to the Nationality Law in 1984, nationality is now based on the child's parents' citizenship; therefore if one parent (male or female) or both of the child's parents are Japanese then the child automatically has Japanese nationality at the time of birth.
★A Child Born Between a Japanese and a Foreign National
For children born between a Japanese and a foreigner, nationality will be decided by the laws of Japan, the foreign country, and the country where a child is born, so it is possible for a child to have dual or even triple-nationality.
- Acquisition of nationality by an Acknowledged Child
Article 3 of the Nationality Law was changed (and simplified) on January 1, 2008.
"A child (excluding a child who was once a Japanese national) under twenty years of age whose father or mother has acknowledged paternity or maternity respectively , may acquire Japanese nationality through a notification to the Minister of Justice, if the father or mother who made the acknowledgement was a Japanese national at the time of the child's birth, and such father or mother is presently a Japanese national or was a Japanese national at the time of his or her death."
- the original Japanese version of the law can be found here.
★Acquiring Citizenship through Naturalization
In the case one's biological parents do not marry it is possible to acquire Japanese citizenship through naturalization. If a biological father recognizes the child after birth, the regulations are eased to allow the child of a Japanese citizen to be naturalized. As such, a child can apply for nationalization "as a child of a Japanese". In the case a father refuses to legitimize a child the case can be taken to court and with the decision of a judicial panel the biological father can be forced to legitimize the child.
★Family Registers
Like China and Korea, Japan records familial information in what is called "koseki"（戸籍 = family register). All information regarding, birth, marriage, divorce, residence, and death are recorded on this registry and kept at one's city, ward, or local government office. Only Japanese have family registers or can be legally registered in them. A foreign spouse of a Japanese is noted as such in the spouse's family registry (in the section called mibun-jiko-ran＝身分事項欄).
A child born to a Japanese (father or mother) and a foreigner (mother or father) will be listed in their Japanese parent's family registry.
★Notes:
"Nationality" and "citizenship" are used throughout the article, however the concept of citizenship as used here currently does not exist as a legal term in Japanese. In Japan the concept of citizenship is correctly and only referred to as nationality (国籍＝kokuseki). Please be aware that the term citizenship is used to refer to nationality in this article.
http://www.nic-nagoya.or.jp/en/dailyliving...nationality.htm
Specifically there are two systems in which nationality is conferred
1) citizenship by descent (血統主義＝ketto shugi), which is based on one or both parent's nationality or
2) citizenship by country of birth(生地主義＝seichi shugi) which the place of birth is the deciding factor in a child's nationality and not the parent's nationality per say.
Citizenship in Japan (and France for example) is based on the former (1), whereas the United States, Canada and Brazil base citizenship on the country of birth (2). Exceptions occur in the case that a child is born abroad to U.S., Canadian or Brazilian parents. In this situation, the child's nationality is conferred by descent depending on the parent's residency status in their home country. For example, a child born in the United States to Japanese parents has both U.S. and Japanese nationality until age 20; whereas a child born in Japan to two U.S. citizens is a citizen of the United States only.
Up until 1984 Japan was a patriarchal society meaning that nationality could only be conferred through a Japanese father, not a Japanese mother. Per amendments made to the Nationality Law in 1984, nationality is now based on the child's parents' citizenship; therefore if one parent (male or female) or both of the child's parents are Japanese then the child automatically has Japanese nationality at the time of birth.
★A Child Born Between a Japanese and a Foreign National
For children born between a Japanese and a foreigner, nationality will be decided by the laws of Japan, the foreign country, and the country where a child is born, so it is possible for a child to have dual or even triple-nationality.
- Acquisition of nationality by an Acknowledged Child
Article 3 of the Nationality Law was changed (and simplified) on January 1, 2008.
"A child (excluding a child who was once a Japanese national) under twenty years of age whose father or mother has acknowledged paternity or maternity respectively , may acquire Japanese nationality through a notification to the Minister of Justice, if the father or mother who made the acknowledgement was a Japanese national at the time of the child's birth, and such father or mother is presently a Japanese national or was a Japanese national at the time of his or her death."
- the original Japanese version of the law can be found here.
★Acquiring Citizenship through Naturalization
In the case one's biological parents do not marry it is possible to acquire Japanese citizenship through naturalization. If a biological father recognizes the child after birth, the regulations are eased to allow the child of a Japanese citizen to be naturalized. As such, a child can apply for nationalization "as a child of a Japanese". In the case a father refuses to legitimize a child the case can be taken to court and with the decision of a judicial panel the biological father can be forced to legitimize the child.
★Family Registers
Like China and Korea, Japan records familial information in what is called "koseki"（戸籍 = family register). All information regarding, birth, marriage, divorce, residence, and death are recorded on this registry and kept at one's city, ward, or local government office. Only Japanese have family registers or can be legally registered in them. A foreign spouse of a Japanese is noted as such in the spouse's family registry (in the section called mibun-jiko-ran＝身分事項欄).
A child born to a Japanese (father or mother) and a foreigner (mother or father) will be listed in their Japanese parent's family registry.
★Notes:
"Nationality" and "citizenship" are used throughout the article, however the concept of citizenship as used here currently does not exist as a legal term in Japanese. In Japan the concept of citizenship is correctly and only referred to as nationality (国籍＝kokuseki). Please be aware that the term citizenship is used to refer to nationality in this article.
http://www.nic-nagoya.or.jp/en/dailyliving...nationality.htm
dei anei...follow father da.....my dad is indian and my mum chinese....I tell everybody I am indian.....sadly nobody believe me
cool story bro.
no, it's actually a little bit interesting
no, it's actually a little bit interesting
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Oct 8 2009, 08:33 AM)
The offsprings of a Indian-chinese couple are also called Peranakans.. Chetty peranakans if i am not mistaken..
I thought Peranakans were when the Chinese men married Malay women like when the Chinese migrated. So now they have specific communities for Peranakans, and Peranakans only marry other Peranakans.
As far as I understand Peranakan describe a culture rather then genetics as in they are a people who practice a culture that is heavily Malay influenced but are themselves not Malay, they are usually of Chinese descent and are a result of early Chinese traders who set up lives in Malaysia/Singapore before the mass migration of Chinese that occured just prior to WWII. Their food reflect their culture and is heavily influenced by Malay spices and ingredients but is still distinct from Malay food.
Singaporean Chindians tend to look like people from Orissa because their Indian component is South Indian low caste + Southern Chinese so Weddid+progressive PalaMongolid. Most "Chindians" look Malay(Nicki Minaj/Vanessa Fernandez)/Nepali(Vivian Balan, Jwalla Gutta)/Oriya(Jacintha Asingamunji)
and others like Savika Chiayadej have a very classic Upper Class S.E.A look. Chaiyadej is defo not a Tamil name so that explains it.
Chitty peranakans are different from typical Peranakans- Southern Chinese father+native Malay mother. Chitty Peranakans are Tamil males mixed with Malay and Chinese women.
The name "Chitty" derived from the Tamil merchants who used to trade extensively with Malaya before Islamic expansion and they were mostly of the Chettiar caste. The Chettiars used to be the Upper Classes along with Han Chinese in ancient S.E.A, in recent years due to nationalism in Myanmar they have been victims of discrimination because they are percieved as non-aboriginal elites.
and others like Savika Chiayadej have a very classic Upper Class S.E.A look. Chaiyadej is defo not a Tamil name so that explains it.
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Oct 8 2009, 12:33 PM)
The offsprings of a Indian-chinese couple are also called Peranakans.. Chetty peranakans if i am not mistaken..
Chitty peranakans are different from typical Peranakans- Southern Chinese father+native Malay mother. Chitty Peranakans are Tamil males mixed with Malay and Chinese women.
The name "Chitty" derived from the Tamil merchants who used to trade extensively with Malaya before Islamic expansion and they were mostly of the Chettiar caste. The Chettiars used to be the Upper Classes along with Han Chinese in ancient S.E.A, in recent years due to nationalism in Myanmar they have been victims of discrimination because they are percieved as non-aboriginal elites.
QUOTE (Naidu @ Jan 29 2010, 01:41 PM)
Singaporean Chindians tend to look like people from Orissa because their Indian component is South Indian low caste + Southern Chinese so Weddid+progressive PalaMongolid. Most "Chindians" look Malay(Nicki Minaj/Vanessa Fernandez)/Nepali(Vivian Balan, Jwalla Gutta)/Oriya(Jacintha Asingamunji)
and others like Savika Chiayadej have a very classic Upper Class S.E.A look. Chaiyadej is defo not a Tamil name so that explains it.
Chitty peranakans are different from typical Peranakans- Southern Chinese father+native Malay mother. Chitty Peranakans are Tamil males mixed with Malay and Chinese women.
The name "Chitty" derived from the Tamil merchants who used to trade extensively with Malaya before Islamic expansion and they were mostly of the Chettiar caste. The Chettiars used to be the Upper Classes along with Han Chinese in ancient S.E.A, in recent years due to nationalism in Myanmar they have been victims of discrimination because they are percieved as non-aboriginal elites.
and others like Savika Chiayadej have a very classic Upper Class S.E.A look. Chaiyadej is defo not a Tamil name so that explains it.
Chitty peranakans are different from typical Peranakans- Southern Chinese father+native Malay mother. Chitty Peranakans are Tamil males mixed with Malay and Chinese women.
The name "Chitty" derived from the Tamil merchants who used to trade extensively with Malaya before Islamic expansion and they were mostly of the Chettiar caste. The Chettiars used to be the Upper Classes along with Han Chinese in ancient S.E.A, in recent years due to nationalism in Myanmar they have been victims of discrimination because they are percieved as non-aboriginal elites.
what the......
QUOTE (RealAnswers @ Jan 29 2010, 08:07 PM)
what the......
Lol, naidu's been reading too much of those anthropology forums. Let me guess, Skadi or stirpes?
QUOTE (Naidu @ Jan 29 2010, 05:41 AM)
Singaporean Chindians tend to look like people from Orissa because their Indian component is South Indian low caste + Southern Chinese so Weddid+progressive PalaMongolid. Most "Chindians" look Malay(Nicki Minaj/Vanessa Fernandez)/Nepali(Vivian Balan, Jwalla Gutta)/Oriya(Jacintha Asingamunji)
Where did you get words like Weddid and PalaMongoloid from? I've never heard these words being used in anthropological literature before.
Jwala Gutta (just won gold medal in women's doubles for India in badminton at the Commonwealth Games) is a Chindian. Her mother is Chinese and her father is a South Indian. Her grandparents on her mother's side moved to India because her grandfather was a follower of Gandhi and stayed with him at an ashram. I thought she was from the Northeast or maybe Eastern India, but she is actually half Indian-half Chinese.
http://www.hindu.com/mp/2008/11/08/images/...10851191001.jpg
http://www.hindu.com/mp/2008/11/08/images/...10851191001.jpg
" The Chitty are a distinctive group of Tamil people found mainly in Malacca and Singapore , who are also known as the Indian Peranakans. As of today, their population stands at 2,000. "
QUOTE (LoveAndPeace @ Oct 16 2010, 06:29 PM)
" The Chitty are a distinctive group of Tamil people found mainly in Malacca and Singapore , who are also known as the Indian Peranakans. As of today, their population stands at 2,000. "
The Chitty's are probably a mis-pronunciation of the Chetty's/Chettiar's of Southern India. They are mostly merchants/traders if i rem correctly
What's Chinese population in Malaysia? Is ethnic Chinese allow to run for politics in Indonesia or Malaysia?
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