QUOTE (pengzeng88 @ Oct 18 2009, 02:47 PM)

Tibetans don't even like Han people. Not sure why these Chinese guys are so boastful of SINO-tibetans. It's like they are trying to associate themselves with Tibetans.
I have several Tibetan friends they show deep hatred for Han Chinese. Basically most ethnic minorities have issues with Han people.
Don't get my logic here?
Tibetan and Chinese get alot of in common in terms of Y-DNA, that's why I pick these Sino-Tibetans who lived in north countryside who definitely have not gone through any plastic surgery to show the Sino-Tibetan people can have natural double eyelid.
So next time, dont bring your cheapshot to accusing any Chinese with double eyelids have your SEA blood, actually besides the mongolian type, every human races have a very high percentage of being double-eyelided, its not an exclusive SEA feature.
And unless you are blind, we all know northern Chinese
dont look like mongolian or any tungus or any other northern groups, this is esepically true if you comparing the looks of N.Chinese with these nothern ethnic minorities who have not mixed with any Chinese blood, e.g. from Russia.
So dont post mongolian looks to believe N.Chinese can not have double-eyelids
Genetically speaking Mongolians are vastly different than N.Chinese, they are C3c people which are the so-called
old-asian type, i.e. the few left first-wave migrations who surivived from the slaugher commited by the second wave of migration from African.
While N.Chinese are O3 people, they are the second wave of Asian migrations, a.k.a,.
the New Asian.
The C class homo type are diffinitely more primitive and much ancient comparing to the new asian type (O,N,Q), actually the lowet iq human today is the C class old asian type: the aboriginal people in Austrlia, who can be even consdiered as an advanced type of primitve instead of human.
Learn some elemental genetics and get lost

QUOTE (tutorboy @ Oct 18 2009, 03:00 PM)

According to Chinese given sources, their ancestors came from the Tibetan Plateau. This is why Chinese and Tibetan share the same DNA.
I'm confused.
My Chinese prof. told me QIN and HAN DYNASTY are like GREEK and ROMAN.
So, which means ??? They're not the same people.
No, Sino-Tibetans were originated in N.China around Yellow river region.
The genetic evidences and historical findings suggest the sino-tibetan were a original nomadic people, they were originated in N.China and spilit into 2 groups, one move west to Tibet and SEA and many of whom have mixed with the few left old asian D1 negritos (the old asians are C and D people, most of whom were believed to be wiped out by the second wave of migration , who are Y-DNA O, N and Q people), etc, and still remain their nomadic life styles.
The other group, which are the ancestors of today's Chinese move east and take over east China and evolved to the move productive agriculture stage of civilzation and settle down.
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My Chinese prof. told me QIN and HAN DYNASTY are like GREEK and ROMAN.
So, which means ??? They're not the same people.
Qin and Han is as different as the 81 tribes of Miao or the three miao from each others, and far less differen than today's Miao in China and Hmong in SEA.

And I find it's funny this is talking from a hmong, you know if we really go to DNA evidence, the Hmong is far far less than an ethnic group than Chinese, basically, your mtDNA is a huge mess.