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LiaoFyhun
embarassedlaugh.gif Hahahaha if you ever going to date a Thai/Chinese make sure they are not boring or spoiled. This is a warning to those who date Thai/Chinese and will regret it later on. I found this issue pertaining this matter http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21982 . It is also a reason why they have issue with Laotian and other because they are spoiled brat. eek.gif
bankchabi
QUOTE (LiaoFyhun @ Oct 30 2009, 08:26 AM) *
embarassedlaugh.gif Hahahaha if you ever going to date a Thai/Chinese make sure they are not boring or spoiled. This is a warning to those who date Thai/Chinese and will regret it later on. I found this issue pertaining this matter http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21982 . It is also a reason why they have issue with Laotian and other because they are spoiled brat. eek.gif


ไอ้เหี้ยเสียสติ เรื่องเดียวสามสี่กระทู้
ไอ้ปัญญาอ่อน ว่างนักก็ไปไถนา ไปแดกหญ้า ไป

ไอ้ลาว
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (bankchabi @ Oct 29 2009, 08:32 PM) *
ไอ้เหี้ยเสียสติ เรื่องเดียวสามสี่กระทู้
ไอ้ปัญญาอ่อน ว่างนักก็ไปไถนา ไปแดกหญ้า ไป

ไอ้ลาว

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bankchabi
สงสัยรัย ไปถามพ่องดิ
modernthai
5555+ คุณ bankchabi ฮาได้ใจโคตร ถ้าไม่มีคุณในนี้ ผมคงเครียดตาย ไม่มีอะไรให้ฮา ...

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ไอ้ลาว !!!!
bankchabi
อ้าวท่าน modernthai
ไอ้พวกลาวเดี๋ยวนี้ก็งั้น ๆ อ่ะ มีไอ้มั่วแล้ว กะไอ้เลี่ยวเหี้ยไรเนี่ย ส่วนไอ้บุ้ดด้าเลิฟไอ้นี่ยิ่งไม่เต็ม
แต่ไอ้เขมรนี่ อือหือ ชอบทำคลิปเลว ๆ เลวสัสๆ แม่งเย็ดจิงๆ มันอ่านภาษาไทยไม่ออกด้วย ด่ามาเป็นอังกฤษไฟแลบ ผมอ่านของแม่งไม่ออกอีก อยากด่าแม่งชิบหายแต่ไม่รู้ว่ามันเขียนว่าไร
เอ้อท่าน กระทู้ก่อนหน้านี้ที่ว่าท่านจะเลิกเล่นบอร์ดนี้ อย่าหยุดเลยท่าน ช่วยกันคุมบอร์ดไว้หลายๆท่าน ถ้าคนน้อยก็สู้พวกมันไม่ได้อ่ะดิ
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ไอ้ลาว !!! embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
ไอ้ขแมร์ !!! embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
Nhoona
QUOTE (LiaoFyhun @ Oct 29 2009, 09:26 PM) *
embarassedlaugh.gif Hahahaha if you ever going to date a Thai/Chinese make sure they are not boring or spoiled. This is a warning to those who date Thai/Chinese and will regret it later on. I found this issue pertaining this matter http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21982 . It is also a reason why they have issue with Laotian and other because they are spoiled brat. eek.gif


your warning is outdated for about 200 years laugh.gif its too late
Buddhalove
Make sure to watch out for Aids when you go to thailand. Too many.
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 04:01 AM) *
your warning is outdated for about 200 years laugh.gif its too late

Yes its too late for those pure Thai. Now they are being look down like a dog by those half mutt. embarassedlaugh.gif
Nhoona
QUOTE (LiaoFyhun @ Oct 30 2009, 04:31 PM) *
Yes its too late for those pure Thai. Now they are being look down like a dog by those half mutt. embarassedlaugh.gif


Who is PURE Thai?
anyway in Lao's mind pure Thai must be Lao sure.gif

How come? embarassedlaugh.gif
Buddhalove
i believe pure tai means no jek.
Nhoona
Tai is Tai
Lao is Lao
Buddhalove
Tai is not jek. Jek belong in Mainland. pure fact. hump.gif
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 07:03 PM) *
Who is PURE Thai?
anyway in Lao's mind pure Thai must be Lao sure.gif

How come? embarassedlaugh.gif


You are so retarded hahahaha Laugh* embarassedlaugh.gif No wonder you guys don't understand or get it still.
Nhoona
^glad you know that BD

anyway keep in mind That Tai is Tai. Lao is Lao
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 07:17 PM) *
^glad you know that

anyway keep in mind That Tai is Tai. Lao is Lao


Tai is a family group while Lao is a new branch of the Tai in that category geeeesh! Didn't know it was hard to understand that. eek.gif
Nhoona
QUOTE (LiaoFyhun @ Oct 30 2009, 07:19 PM) *
Tai is a family group while Lao is a new branch of the Tai in that category geeeesh! Didn't know it was hard to understand that. eek.gif


respect your ancestor identity for their choice to be Lao please.

i know out of africa theory but french is not lao just like Jek is not Lao, Khmer is not lao, Tai Yai is not Lao. ok?
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 07:24 PM) *
respect your ancestor identity for their choice to be Lao please.

i know out of africa theory but french is not lao just like Jek is not Lao, Khmer is not lao, Tai Yai is not Lao. ok?

embarassedlaugh.gif What are you smokin?
Buddhalove
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 07:17 PM) *
^glad you know that BD

anyway keep in mind That Tai is Tai. Lao is Lao


keep in mind that Jek are not thai. You're foreigner that need to pack your stuffs and move back to mainland. You need to stop smoking ya ba, those are bad for you. biggthumpup.gif
Buddhalove
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 07:24 PM) *
respect your ancestor identity for their choice to be Lao please.

i know out of africa theory but french is not lao just like Jek is not Lao, Khmer is not lao, Tai Yai is not Lao. ok?


to be less confusing with some Tai people in Laos, sisopngpana, Shan state and Vietnam. Thai people need to respect their ancestor by changing its name back to Siam or Saryarm.


Siam just changed the name of its' country to thailand over 60 years ago, so they can claim every tai as their. Bad, bad, you need to respect your ancestors. embarassedlaugh.gif
Nhoona
QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Oct 30 2009, 07:49 PM) *
keep in mind that Jek are not thai. You're foreigner that need to pack your stuffs and move back to mainland. You need to stop smoking ya ba, those are bad for you. biggthumpup.gif


im Jek and im Thai laugh.gif There are also millions lao in Thailand are Thai too, you have the right to feel related to them.
Buddhalove
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 07:53 PM) *
im Jek and im Thai laugh.gif There are also millions lao in Thailand are Thai too, you have the right to feel related to them.


Just wanted to let you know, I am lao till my last breath. Lets say together jek, Long live Laos Lanxang. laugh.gif
Manbor
Thai is a nationality. I didn't know you Lao are so stupid beerchug.gif
Buddhalove
QUOTE (Manbor @ Oct 30 2009, 08:03 PM) *
Thai is a nationality. I didn't know you Lao are so stupid beerchug.gif


Thai are not Jek, i didn't know you're so stupiid. kiss.gif
Manbor
QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Oct 31 2009, 08:05 AM) *
Thai are not Jek, i didn't know you're so stupiid. kiss.gif

Thai is a nationality just like American, like I said before Lao are nothing but a bunch of stupid people
AmbitionOfLanxan
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 07:53 PM) *
im Jek and im Thai laugh.gif There are also millions lao in Thailand are Thai too, you have the right to feel related to them.


But what you don't understand is, Lao people been there since god knows how long. And you Jek-Thai are just 2nd or 3rd generation who migrated to Thailand because your ancestors left China for a better life.

Comparing the Jek in Thailand to Lao people like Thailand is like comparing the Pioneers of America. Lao people along with the Siamese(Thai) are the root and foundation of Thailand. That's what you Jek-Thai need to understand. You're people are bunch of opportunist who leech off other people's land and resource.
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (Manbor @ Oct 30 2009, 08:11 PM) *
Thai is a nationality just like American, like I said before Lao are nothing but a bunch of stupid people


You are pathetic please hang yourself high up the tree.
sisavong
khoi baw kao jai sure.gif
AmbitionOfLanxan
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 07:24 PM) *
respect your ancestor identity for their choice to be Lao please.

i know out of africa theory but french is not lao just like Jek is not Lao, Khmer is not lao, Tai Yai is not Lao. ok?


Of course not. But you Jek-Thai speak a Tai-Kadai language, right? You Jek-Thai have long last names like Tai-Kadai people instead of your Wongs/Wangs/Chongs/etc.

You Jek-Thai assimilated into a Tai-Kadai culture and identity, but that don't make you one of us. A Chinese-British born and raised in England is still Chinese. Likewise, a Chinese born in Thailand is still Jek regardless.
Nhoona
QUOTE (AmbitionOfLanxan @ Oct 30 2009, 08:24 PM) *
But what you don't understand is, Lao people been there since god knows how long. And you Jek-Thai are just 2nd or 3rd generation who migrated to Thailand because your ancestors left China for a better life.

Comparing the Jek in Thailand to Lao people like Thailand is like comparing the Pioneers of America. Lao people along with the Siamese(Thai) are the root and foundation of Thailand. That's what you Jek-Thai need to understand. You're people are bunch of opportunist who leech off other people's land and resource.



Lanxan could not keep Lao Isan. Isan added to Siam later and was Thaificationed just like Lanna.
Jek? they are in Thailand since Ayuttaya and were assighed to take care many Siam's affairs along with Siamese king to build up this country Thailand/Siam.

There was even Chinese/Siamese king to conqur Lao's land to be part of Siam/Thailand.
Buddhalove
QUOTE (Manbor @ Oct 30 2009, 08:11 PM) *
Thai is a nationality just like American, like I said before Lao are nothing but a bunch of stupid people


don't tell me you still jek are thai. Jek are related to mainlander.
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 08:33 PM) *
Lanxan could not keep Lao Isan. Isan added to Siam later and was Thaificationed just like Lanna.
Jek? they are in Thailand since Ayuttaya and were assighed to take care many Siam's affairs along with Siamese king to build up this country Thailand/Siam.

There was even Chinese/Siamese king to conqur Lao's land to be part of Siam/Thailand.


Are you saying you want Laotian to be Thai and also be Jek? That's the most stupidest idea ever. embarassedlaugh.gif Sorry I am jek too, But not like some of you stupid half Thai/Chinese using the Chinese advantage against others. >_>" At times I am embarrass about you people making other chinese look stupid in everyone.
AmbitionOfLanxan
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 08:33 PM) *
Lanxan could not keep Lao Isan. Isan added to Siam later and was Thaificationed just like Lanna.
Jek? they are in Thailand since Ayuttaya and were assighed to take care many Siam's affairs along with Siamese king to build up this country Thailand/Siam.

There was even Chinese/Siamese king to conqur Lao's land to be part of Siam/Thailand.


Let me ask you this Nhoona, were your ancestors there since Ayutthaya? How many Chinese were actually living there since Ayuttaya? Millions? I doubt it.

Remember, there is no such thing as a Chinese kingdom in South East Asia unless unless you count China Town. LOL
Buddhalove
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 08:33 PM) *
Lanxan could not keep Lao Isan. Isan added to Siam later and was Thaificationed just like Lanna.
Jek? they are in Thailand since Ayuttaya and were assighed to take care many Siam's affairs along with Siamese king to build up this country Thailand/Siam.

There was even Chinese/Siamese king to conqur Lao's land to be part of Siam/Thailand.


Are you talking about Thaksin of thonburi that got killed and his power robbed by general Rama I. No doubt thaksin was just one of dumbarsss jek. biggthumpup.gif
Manleow
QUOTE (Manbor @ Oct 30 2009, 09:11 PM) *
Thai is a nationality just like American, like I said before Lao are nothing but a bunch of stupid people

Thai is not just a nationality based upon the reason why the government changed the name of Siam to Thailand, dumbarse. embarassedlaugh.gif

Why dont you just look at the Official Census of Thailand, Thai = ethnic Tai, Jek = ethnic Chinse, etc, etc, etc.... The government of thailand list Thai as an ethnic group of ppl idiot, as they list Chinese as a seperate group of ppl in Thailand, if Thai was just a nationality then Thailand would NOT have seperate ethnicties as they do, and if Chinese were Thai then the government wouldnt of listed Chinese as an ethnic group in Thailand, but they do, So Jek are not Thai ppl they just live there. embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

let me know if i need to explain it to you more dummy embarassedlaugh.gif
Manleow
QUOTE (AmbitionOfLanxan @ Oct 30 2009, 09:40 PM) *
Let me ask you this Nhoona, were your ancestors there since Ayutthaya? How many Chinese were actually living there since Ayuttaya? Millions? I doubt it.

Remember, there is no such thing as a Chinese kingdom in South East Asia unless unless you count China Town. LOL

Hardly any Chinese in Ayutthya period, Most Chinese Came to Thailand after the Japanese started to cut their heads off, and they ran into Thailand only in recent history, most Jek came to Thailand during WWII when the Japanese were killing them in Mainland. its ok now Jek, u can go back to Mainland, the japanese have left, embarassedlaugh.gif
AmbitionOfLanxan
QUOTE (Nhoona @ Oct 30 2009, 09:33 PM) *
Lanxan could not keep Lao Isan. Isan added to Siam later and was Thaificationed just like Lanna.
Jek? they are in Thailand since Ayuttaya and were assighed to take care many Siam's affairs along with Siamese king to build up this country Thailand/Siam.

There was even Chinese/Siamese king to conqur Lao's land to be part of Siam/Thailand.


Then what happened to him? Didn't he get his head chopped off by his own general Rama I or something. LOL

Jek got conquered by Mongols, Manchu, British, Japanese, etc. No wonder Jek was called Sick People of Asia. embarassedlaugh.gif
Manbor
QUOTE (Manleow @ Oct 31 2009, 09:39 AM) *
Thai is not just a nationality based upon the reason why the government changed the name of Siam to Thailand, dumbarse. embarassedlaugh.gif

Why dont you just look at the Official Census of Thailand, Thai = ethnic Tai, Jek = ethnic Chinse, etc, etc, etc.... The government of thailand list Thai as an ethnic group of ppl idiot, as they list Chinese as a seperate group of ppl in Thailand, if Thai was just a nationality then Thailand would NOT have seperate ethnicties as they do, and if Chinese were Thai then the government wouldnt of listed Chinese as an ethnic group in Thailand, but they do, So Jek are not Thai ppl they just live there. embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

let me know if i need to explain it to you more dummy embarassedlaugh.gif

That's right, those Chinese are not ethnic Tai but their offsprings are THAI nationality because it is a nationality. and they have the right to call themselves Chinese Thai or Thai. What's your problem here??? you're dumb as $hit than I thought. we stopped using Chinese, Malay including you LAO from Isan as ethnicity since we wanted to unite the nation. We allow them to be here and they have to be THAI the same as we allow you to be here and you have to be THAI.

We created Thai ethnicity for unity not segregation. Ai buc siew ngo. beerchug.gif
Manbor
QUOTE (Manleow @ Oct 31 2009, 09:46 AM) *
Hardly any Chinese in Ayutthya period, Most Chinese Came to Thailand after the Japanese started to cut their heads off, and they ran into Thailand only in recent history, most Jek came to Thailand during WWII when the Japanese were killing them in Mainland. its ok now Jek, u can go back to Mainland, the japanese have left, embarassedlaugh.gif

Lao like you are so sick posting those dead people icon_neutral.gif
LiaoFyhun
QUOTE (Manbor @ Oct 30 2009, 10:13 PM) *
Lao like you are so sick posting those dead people icon_neutral.gif

I think they are smiling. embarassedlaugh.gif
Manleow
QUOTE (AmbitionOfLanxan @ Oct 30 2009, 11:04 PM) *
Then what happened to him? Didn't he get his head chopped off by his own general Rama I or something. LOL

Jek got conquered by Mongols, Manchu, British, Japanese, etc. No wonder Jek was called Sick People of Asia. embarassedlaugh.gif

Jek Thaksin and Jek in China keep getting their heads chopped off???
Manleow
QUOTE (Manbor @ Oct 30 2009, 11:10 PM) *
That's right, those Chinese are not ethnic Tai but their offsprings are THAI nationality because it is a nationality. and they have the right to call themselves Chinese Thai or Thai. What's your problem here??? you're dumb as $hit than I thought. we stopped using Chinese, Malay including you LAO from Isan as ethnicity since we wanted to unite the nation. We allow them to be here and they have to be THAI the same as we allow you to be here and you have to be THAI.

We created Thai ethnicity for unity not segregation. Ai buc siew ngo. beerchug.gif

YOu just said Thai is not an ethnicity just a nationality? now you say its an ethnicity? embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

Dumbarse, so what is it? Well Im glad that i teach you something about Thailand, next time if you want to know more about Thailand let me know.

Lao is considered Ethnic Tai of Thailand, so Lao are the ethnic Thai ppl of Thailand. same as the Siamese Tai and the Tai of Nothern Thailand, they are the ethnic Thai of Thailand and make up the majority of the ppl of Thailand, Jek is Jek, Jek are not ethnic Thai ppl of Thailand.

The Government of Thailand still List Chinese as a Minority ethnic group in Thailand, you idiot. Every Country in the World still list Chinese as an Ethnic group in Thailand. So stop lying to yourself, Thailand still use the term Chinese because Chinese are Not Thai.
BestRice
so what do u call french , spanish , latin , british , aztec in america ? xD
and since when did real american nationalitiy borned ?
lao must stop being jealous and continue to serve thai ppl biggrin.gif like one here in my house shes not lazy n shes lao biggrin.gif

and i guess i dont have to scan my ID and post it here to let u see what is my nationality in ID ? right biggrin.gif

we actually have so much $hit to talk bout laos eg. like u guys get owned by thailand every century biggrin.gif
Manbor
QUOTE (Manleow @ Oct 31 2009, 10:23 AM) *
YOu just said Thai is not an ethnicity just a nationality? now you say its an ethnicity? embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

Dumbarse, so what is it? Well Im glad that i teach you something about Thailand, next time if you want to know more about Thailand let me know.

Lao is considered Ethnic Tai of Thailand, so Lao are the ethnic Thai ppl of Thailand. same as the Siamese Tai and the Tai of Nothern Thailand, they are the ethnic Thai of Thailand, Jek is Jek, Jek are not ethnic Thai ppl of Thailand.

The Government of Thailand still List Chinese as a Minority ethnic group in Thailand, you idiot. Every Country in the World still list Chinese as an Ethnic group in Thailand. So stop lying to yourself, Thailand still use the term Chinese because Chinese are Not Thai.

WTF Can you show me where I said "Thai is not an ethnicity just a nationality"? What I said is Thai was a nationality and those Chinese had the right to call themselves like that. And Thai as an ethnicity was created to unite people like yourself you're dumb as usual the ethnic Thai are a tool created especially to make you Lao people unite to us Siamese embarassedlaugh.gif Still what's your problem here. Ai buc siew.
Manbor
Chinese born in Thailand have to be THAI. and they are proud Thai. you fu-king people get out of here
khunshaw
QUOTE (AmbitionOfLanxan @ Oct 30 2009, 08:04 PM) *
Then what happened to him? Didn't he get his head chopped off by his own general Rama I or something. LOL

Jek got conquered by Mongols, Manchu, British, Japanese, etc. No wonder Jek was called Sick People of Asia. embarassedlaugh.gif

Lao history shows itself throughout as slave to many countries:

http://countrystudies.us/laos/8.htm
The Hold of Siam

This conflict had a long history. At the time of Siam's retributive campaigns against Vientiane in 1827-28, relations between Vientiane and Annam were good. The Vietnamese called Vientiane Van Tuong (the Kingdom of Ten Thousand Elephants). But when Vientiane's ruler, Chao Anou, sought refuge in Hué following Siam's destruction of his capital, it caused serious embarrassment to the Vietnamese. King Rama III of Siam wrote to the Vietnamese emperor, Minh Mang, explaining that Chao Anou had refused obedience to him and had started hostilities. Minh Mang, pursuing a consistently cautious policy toward Rama III, lent Chao Anou two companies of men to escort him back to Vientiane, instructing them to return immediately after accomplishing their mission. Siamese and Vietnamese sources--the Laotian primary sources having for the most part disappeared--give conflicting versions of what happened next. In any event, in mid-October 1828, Chao Anou found himself once again engaged in hostilities with a stronger Siamese force. He again fled to safety, this time to Muang Phuan because a Siamese force was encamped at Nakhon Phanom, blocking the Mekong downstream.

The arrival of Chao Anou on their doorstep with a Siamese army in pursuit confronted the leaders of Muang Phuan with a dilemma. When the Siamese commander issued an ultimatum to surrender Chao Anou under penalty of an attack on Xiangkhoang, the leaders of Muang Phuan quickly accepted. The Siamese took Chao Anou to Bangkok and kept him captive.

What followed was illustrative of the consequences of the constant meddling in each other's affairs that went on among the Laotian principalities. The reigning prince of Muang Phuan was Chao Noi, son of the ruling family. Vientiane had attempted to take advantage of Chao Noi's youth when his father died to install Chao Xan, the head of a rival family from Muang Kasi. The Phuan elders of Xiangkhoang refused to accept this candidate, so power was shared under a compromise arranged with help from Hué. Chao Xan, however, led a delegation to Hué, where he accused Chao Noi and his cousins of bringing dishonor to the emperor by surrendering a vassal prince to another king, of obstructing passage of a tribute mission from Louangphrabang across the territory of Muang Phuan to Hué, and of negotiating to acknowledge Siamese suzerainty.

Chao Noi was accordingly summoned to Hué to explain himself but sent his eldest son, Po. Angered by this flagrant disregard of a direct order, Minh Mang took no action, awaiting news of the fate of Chao Anou, who was the nominal suzerain and ordinarily would have dealt with the Phuan on behalf of Hué. Once word was received that Chao Anou had died, Minh Mang sent a Vietnamese detachment to Muang Phuan and arrested Chao Noi and most of his family. In May 1829, the prisoners were taken to Annam, where Chao Noi and his cousin were executed in January 1830. Chao Noi's young sons and their mothers were kept in exile in Nghe An. The Muang Phuan succession thus fell to Chao Xan. Minh Mang, however, posted a quan phu (commissioner), supported by a garrison of 500 soldiers who were rotated seasonally, to reside permanently at Chiang Kham (Khang Khay), at the headwaters of the Nam Ngum, as a precaution against a recurrence of conflict with the Siamese king.

Rama III sent a further letter to Minh Mang in early 1829 outlining his view of Chao Anou's treachery and thanking the emperor for his presents. But the king failed to provide an explanation for a serious incident at Nakhon Phanom in which three Vietnamese mandarins had been killed. In November 1829, Siamese envoys returned home with a letter from Hué reiterating earlier demands for punishment of those people responsible. When it became obvious that Rama III would not revert to the old arrangement of joint administration, Hué gave administrative control over the entire eastern half of the former kingdom of Vientiane to Vietnamese officials in Annam and Tonkin. The territory was virtually annexed by Hué in 1831 under the name Tran Ninh Phu Tam Vien. The Vietnamese presence at Khang Khay continued until the mid-1850s.

Chao Anou's wars with the Siamese had stirred massive disruptions of villages on the right bank. Terrified Lao fled every which way. When the Siamese arrived at Nakhon Phanom in 1827 they found the town deserted, the officials having fled across the river to Mahaxai. In the aftermath of the war, however, the Siamese established new towns--Chiang Khan, Nong Khai, Mukdahan, and Kemmarat--at key points on the Mekong to serve as administrative centers and as logistical bases for expeditionary forces operating across the river toward the mountains.

On the left bank, where the writ of Siam ran as far south as Stung Treng, the Siamese followed a policy of depopulating the country. This policy had actually been initiated as early as 1779; the first Phuan carried off by the Siamese arrived in Bangkok around 1792, where they were used as workers in the fields of the official classes. By removing people from the left bank, the Siamese deprived any invader from Annam of food supplies, transport, and recruits. Sporadic resistance, however, led for some time by the latsavong (first prince), of the old Vientiane kingdom continued at Mahaxai until 1835, when the leading Lao official there agreed to become governor of Sakon Nakhon on the right bank, and the Siamese resettled there. From 1837 to 1847, the Siamese carried out depopulation raids annually during the dry season in Khamkeut and Khammouan and in the valley of the Xé Banghiang. Entire Lao villages were uprooted.

Meanwhile, the leaders of Houaphan principality, fearing that the example of Muang Phuan might be applied to them, submitted to the suzerainty of Bangkok through the intermediary of Louangphrabang. Events were not going well for the Siamese in Muang Phuan. After the Siamese removed Chao Xan and some of the elders to Bangkok in 1836, the Vietnamese in effect ruled the state directly, appointing local officials as administrators. The depopulation activities the Siamese carried out on the Plain of Jars and elsewhere in Xiangkhoang caused the remaining population to migrate eastward and southward, forming new villages in the upper reaches of the Nam Mat and around the northern extremities of the Nam Kading basin, around Muang Mo, Muang Mok, and Muang Ngan. This expansion of the Phuan state was encouraged by the Vietnamese in their administrative reorganization. Some of the Phuan, however, perhaps enticed by Lao governors acting for the Siamese, moved down the river valleys toward the Mekong. There, new towns such as Bolikhamxai and Pakxan were founded and given satellite status by the Siamese in the 1870s.

Tu Duc, on his accession as Vietnamese emperor at Hué in 1847, allowed the sons of Chao Noi to return home with their families and to reestablish Xiangkhoang as the Phuan capital. They were given administrative responsibilities and the eldest, Prince Po, at last was permitted to replace the commissioner. Meanwhile, King Tiantha Koumane of Louangphrabang (r. 1851-69), one of three sons of Manta Thourath who succeeded to the throne in succession, while in Bangkok to receive the investiture, quickly arranged with the new Siamese king, Rama IV, to become once again the suzerain over the Phuan state. The Vietnamese had no objection to vassal relations of the Phuan with Louangphrabang. But Rama IV was deeply suspicious of the Phuan elders and set as a condition for accepting this arrangement that the Phuan send an annual tribute mission to Louangphrabang. Tiantha Koumane hence was able to reestablish his authority over Muang Phuan.

A new element--the Hô--entered the picture, further complicating the situation in northern Laos. The Hô first appeared in mid-1869 in the upper valley of the Nam Ou, where they made common cause with some Lu dissidents displaced from the Sipsong Panna during a civil war lasting twenty-five years. An army from Louangphrabang attacked these bands and withdrew with prisoners.

The Lao and Siamese were ill prepared to face up to the new danger of anarchy in their domains. Tiantha Koumane was dying of malaria, and the Siamese, preoccupied with preparations for the cremation of their own monarch, Rama IV, demanded that a tribute mission from Louangphrabang arrive in Bangkok in time for the ceremony. Many princes and senior officials had to absent themselves from Louangphrabang at this critical time and had to remain in Bangkok afterward for audiences with the new monarch. Oun Kham, who was already fifty-eight years old, did not receive his crown from the Siamese until 1872.

It was not until 1873 that the Siamese sent an army up the Nam Ou to attack the Hô and drive them out. Some Hô retreated into Houaphan, while others overran the Plain of Jars, where Chao Hung had succeeded his brother Chao Pho as ruler of the Phuan state, which became the main theater of conflict. The Hô camped at Chiang Kham and demanded "tax" payments from the local population, threatening to kill anyone who resisted. Chao Hung raised a small army and led it to assist the beleaguered governor of Chiang Kham in 1874, but a fatal bullet wound prompted the withdrawal of his army. Chao Hung's son, Prince Khanti, appealed to Annam for aid. A joint attack was made on Chiang Kham but was also repulsed.

Early the following year, the Hô began plundering the lowlands along the Mekong as far upriver as Chiang Khan and as far south as Nakhon Phanom, directly threatening Siam's security. The teenage King Rama V was unable to mount an effective response. The governor of Khorat took a force of men across the flooded Mekong at the height of the monsoon and attacked the Hô encamped in the ruins of Vientiane, killing their warlord and forcing the others to retreat to Muang Phuan. A concerted campaign against the Hô in their stronghold was finally put in motion in 1876, but it resulted more in pillaging and looting the inhabitants than in stopping the Hô, who, with their horses, were more than a match for the Siamese and Lao foot soldiers. Rama V blamed the Phuan for having brought trouble on themselves by giving rice, silver, and horses to the Hô, which in fact they had done in a desperate effort to appease them. He rejected further appeals for aid on the grounds that the local leaders would prove incapable of dealing with the situation after the army withdrew.

Meanwhile, the troubles in the upper valley of the Nam Ou continued. Siamese commissioners had to assist Oun Kham in restoring order in 1876 and to prod him into reorganizing the towns under his rule. Affairs remained in a state of flux for the next six years, and when in late 1882 Oun Kham appealed again to Bangkok for help against the Hô, the Siamese sent a major military mission. Subsequently, the Siamese maintained a permanent garrison at Louangphrabang.
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Contributions of Ancient China to the World by Char4U.com

The world is indebted to ancient china for a number of contributions in the sector of art, literature, science and technology. Let us discuss about the major contributions of ancient china to the world.

PAPER
For the nation that uses some 80,000 different symbols in their language, it was just natural to invent the paper. Papers were produced from 3 different kinds of sources, namely, the silk rags, wooden strips and bamboo, hemp or clothes. The ancient China also pioneered the concept of ink (206B.C.-A.D.220) and they were the first to invent printer (618-906A.D) and print a book (868 AD).

COMPASS
It was a tool that was invented to fulfill religious purposes. A compass was used to examine whether an under-construction building was facing the right direction so that it could be in perfect harmony with nature. For example, the scientists of ancient China believed; if the house faces north, the inhabitants will be perfectly getting along with the nature. The earliest compass made by the ancient Chinese inventors, resembled a wooden circle which had a number of marks on it along with a magnetic spoon on the top.

SILK
Probably the most significant contribution of the ancient china was the fine variety of silk that goes by the name of Chinese silk. The ancient Chinese were the one who taught the rest of the world how to harvest silk from silk worms. They also coined the techniques of creating clothes, fans, kites, paper, and many other articles from it.

Your list will seem endless if you start counting the contributions of ancient China to the rest of the world. Let’s have a quick glimpse on the other major gifts of the ancient Chinese inventors.

An object for counting, called an abacus
The unique method of treatment called acupuncture
The first rudder
The first planetarium
The first water powered blast furnace
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China moves into laid-back Laos

By Nga Pham
BBC News, Vientiane

A fast-growing Chinese presence is one of the most striking features in Laos these days.

Mr Zeng is happy to have made Vientiane his home
Beijing has been pouring billions of dollars in investment and development aid into the landlocked country, once consigned to the backyard of the Soviet bloc.
Yet it seems China has to do more to win the hearts of the Lao people.
Zeng Xue Dong is so busy he has not got a spare moment to miss his family. The 21-year-old moved from his native Sichuan province to Vientiane just four months ago, yet his business is thriving.
Mr Zeng manages a shop that specialises in cheap China-made mobile phones and Lao Telecom Sim cards.
"I live here by myself, my parents remain in Sichuan," he said. "But life is good and I feel pretty much at home in Vientiane."
His words are echoed by Sun Lei, chairman of the Laos-China Business Association. Mr Sun, owner of the Mekong Hotel and Apartments on Luang Prabang Road in central Vientiane, came to Laos 15 years ago.
He now considers Vientiane his second home.
"Already in 1993, I could see great opportunities as Laos was developing fast. Doing business here is easy," said the native of Liaoning province in northeast China.
The Laos-China Business Association now has more than 100 members, mostly Chinese companies, and the number is growing.
Mr Sun's daughter is studying at Beijing University, and he intends to travel extensively between Laos and China.
"Nowadays, it's easy to move around," he said.
New development projects, such as the highway running from Yunnan province in China to Thailand via Laos, have certainly helped.
But stronger political and economic ties between the two countries are the main reason behind the influx of Chinese people and money into Laos.
Historic links
Talking to the BBC, Yunnan governor Qin Guangrong insisted that China and Laos were "not only neighbours, but also friends, and it's only natural that the two sides would work together to promote a good economic relationship".
In the last few years, the number of Chinese living and working in Laos has been rising steadily. Official statistics say at least 30,000 live there, but in reality the figure could be 10 times greater. Not only is the Chinese presence highly visible in the northern border areas, but in the capital as well.

They (the government) say don't worry but they give away business permissions and visa like sweets.
Xaisomboun Soukhummalay,
Vientiane resident
In Vientiane's downtown Samsenthai quarter, streets are adorned with red lanterns and the smell of Chinese cooking adds to the dusty heat of the dry season.
At the Lao-Chinese market off Asean Street and the newly opened San Jiang trade centre, shops are packed to the ceiling with Chinese goods, from fake flowers to electric massage chairs.
Even the Vietnamese hawkers, once a regular sight on Vientiane streets, have now been replaced with Chinese vendors.
Laos has traditionally had strong links to Vietnam. During the French colonial period, the country was run by Vietnamese civil servants and when Laos became communist after the Vietnam War, its politics and economy tilted towards Hanoi and the Soviet bloc.
But the Chinese are set to regain their foothold in this sleepy regional back-water.
Since 2000 China has been pouring aid and investment into Laos. Chinese companies are involved in almost all areas of the country's economy, from hydropower to mining, agriculture and hospitality.
Local fears
However, the recent influx of Chinese has caused great controversy in Laos.
Thousands of Chinese labourers have been brought in by the China Yunnan Construction Engineering Group Corporation to build a $80m stadium in Xaythany district in Vientiane's outskirts.

Duangtavan Saichandi said local people were concerned
The new stadium, to be ready before Lao hosts the next South East Asia Games in 2009, is being financed by the China Development Bank.
In exchange, the Lao government awarded a concession to a Chinese company to develop a 1,600-hectare marshland area in the north-west of the city into a special residential and economic zone.
The That Luang Township is rumoured to be the future home of thousands of Chinese families when completed, making it another Chinatown in the Lao capital.
The government in Vientiane has since denied it, saying the property would be open to Lao nationals as well as foreigners and there is no preference to Chinese citizens.
It has also denied that thousands more Chinese workers will be brought in to develop the marshland. Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs Thongloun Sisoulith said Laos lacked skilled labour, so "foreign workers, not only Chinese, will be invited to participate in this development projects".
"Economic migration is unavoidable in this modern time and it happens anywhere," said Mr Thongloun, adding that the Lao government is confident it can control and manage the influx of foreigners.
But some Laotians remain sceptical, even resentful.
Duangtavan Saichandi, a 24-year-old shopkeeper, said most of people were cautious about the presence of so many Chinese people in Laos.
"But the Lao people are too laid-back. We just say: 'Oh, OK then'," he said.
Another Vientiane resident, Xaisomboun Soukhummalay, was more direct.
"[The government] say don't worry but they give away business permissions and visas like sweets. People just flock in, and we Lao people do worry," he said.
"Our population is six-and-a-half million. Their one Yunnan province is seven times that!"
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